Eminem Vs. Lord Jamar: Is Street Credibility Necessary To Be Considered The Goat? | The Breakdown
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For years, Lord Jamar has been coming at Eminem using VladTV as his platform. Finally, things have come to a boiling point. In this video we discuss whether the “hood” has to love you or if you need street credibility to be in the GOAT conversation. And at the end, Page has some words for Lord Jamar.
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#Eminem #LordJamar #TheBreakdown
If we talking about street cred then Biggie and Nas can’t be GOATS!!
Biggie rhymed about a 2 Bedroom shack, and his mum came out at his height of fame to debunk that. Big was the rich kid who had street friends...
Nas is well known to not have lived that life just documented it, same can be said about Cube. But they are GOATS... also let’s not let hood niggaz speak for the rest of us...they ain’t the brightest bunch and their life/ world is round the corner, down the street, where the drug dealers and prostitutes meet (that’s a Jay lyric) anyway what I’m saying is their world is small and simple mnded, and if a rapper ain’t rapping that bang bang shoot em up shit, these simpletons can’t relate....SMH....also if Em came out rapping that gangster shit...he would be just another rapper that would have ahead a 2-3 buzz....
Anyway so called
Hood niggaz don’t speak for me!!
Anyone who is willing to sell poison to their own people, shoot their own people but run from the police?? Ain’t gangster to me....STOP IT......
Dude big and nas have street credit u lost your mind
@@gregorytisdale9761 no they dont, especially nas , he never lived that life, he was the cinematographer,
@@climacks actually how u even know first of all either answer u give me will be false but I'll give u the E for effort but that's all your answers worth
And watch your mouth about talking about hood niggaz cause I kid u not not every hood nigga listen to someone from the hoods just cause they from their it's about lyrics , flow , story telling and beats bring made from scratch y'all niggas always getting but hurt when Eminem comes under attack damn Stan's and em might can rap but then hood niggaz would lay him out with a bullet not a diss song so chill bro
@@climacks Tf you talking about.. Nas definitely lived that life.. Listen to Not Going Back
“Lord Jamar if you watching this , and I know you do , cause you have nothing else to do “
I died lmao
badsolja1 how many times you thin jamar watched that part 😂
Read my comment same
That shit was gold standard roasting! X0D **LMAO!**
@@shakethaspot6301 at least 10 times..
This guy dissed Lord Jamar more than Eminem did 😂😂😂
Page Kennedy is actually a beast. You should check out some of his tracks
Thats BC Em don't have it to do!!!!!!! U got to be qualified & I really mean no disrespect but no sir u can't short change Em....u jus cant
Madhan Navneeth em went soft so other people could diss him
@@girliejax All of you kids out there that didn't grew up around true HIP HOP, shouldn't diss BRAND NUBIAN! If it were not for DR. DRE, EM would be a played- out white rapper! DRE gave him the street cred to be respected and excepted!
@@zroy9263 and u mad
Rakim acknowledging Em as one of the GOATs alone annihilates anything negative Jamar has to say about Em. Case closed.
Straight up
Thats the thing all the greats in hiphop fuck with Em even if the hood dont
Facts!!!!!
funniest shit is jamar himself said that rakim is the only rapper that blacks will listen to and when rakim said that em is goat and is one of his favorite rappers ever what will jamar say thats the biggest question right now
Rakim way way WAY more of an authority on Hip Hop than Lord Jamar.
Lebron James was bumping Kamikaze on his Snapchat story weeks after the album dropped 😂
I'm black and I've been Eminem Fan since I heard my radio say Hi my name is slim shady
Thats cool, but that makes you a minority, on all fronts.
Thirty-Three Hip Hop lmfao an what makes ur bitter ass think u can even say that? 🤣🤣🤡
Same
@@ThirtyThreeHipHopyou're such a hating clown 😂
@@Adeel808s Lets take his Spotify #'s. 37 Million listeners as a good metric. Thats the entire black population is the US. We can deduce that a majority of those people come from the other 270 million in the country, and even if 18 Million of those people are black that would put a black who person who listens to Em in the minority of that grpup. But I get it numbers dont matter. Name calling helps soothe insecurities. Carry on...
If Rakim is giving Em his props, then you know he's certified.
Pendejo FACTS
Thank you!!! And G Rap also rates him in top ten all time
Not only that, Em always respected hip hop culture. He never made it a "black" or "white" thing. In rap, you're either dope, or you're not.
If you're dope, people will be rocking you 20, 25, and 30 years later (Rakim, Nas, Jay, NWA) even if you're dead (Biggie, Tupac).
Though I disagree with Lord Jamar, I don't fault him (though he even admitted Em is a dope lyricist). But he needs to understand that Em is in hip hop's DNA now, because that's how many albums and years he's been in the game. In fact, Em never has to respond to a critic again--never has to battle.
And Rakim is considered the GOAT to hip hop heads and old schoolers so there you have it.
100%!!!
like ccommon now rakim wasnt even mentioned in the GOAT list... smh
Funny how they say a guy who started his career in the rap BATTLE scene isn't battle tested
@@Hip-h0p2b0 who???
I'm willing to bet no one's bumping Lord Jamar in the hood either
Eminem should drop a diss track called “The guest”
Or "Be My Guest" implying jamar is the guest lol
He probably will😂😂 or something related to that
@Jalazel he droped a diss at Everlast called Quitter
And you think this easy title wouldn't cross Em's mind?
Jalazel the title is a reference to the movie “Killshot”. In the movie, a character named colson (mgk’s name) is killed. So it’s actually a very clever title
EM already dropped "Rap God", now he could drop "Rap Guest" haha
When Boosie said “Lord jamarrr??”
Debate over. 😂😂
Funny boosie a music artist but dont know who Lord Jamar is. Shows you he wasnt really into music as a young.
Panshi Pants. I guess the same thing Lord Jamar has did😂
Jalazel Thats it ??
Bishop Shakur Or maybe you’re giving Jamar way too much credit
Lil bussy
Fun fact: Everyone that say that em is not a Goat isn't a good rapper
There you go.
@@truthisinfinite8 Nick Cannon is phony...because Eminem is in his top 2. He's only started hating since he jumped on a Black Power type of train
Do you know who brand Nubian you casual
Even Conor McGregor doesn’t know “Who the fook is” Lord Lamar....
😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The real title of this video should read: Eminem Vs Street credibility: Is Lord Jamar necessary?
Actually LOL'd on this one.
Crusher Corps how is shady afraid of him? He brought him up like twice in a years span. Despite him being LJ’s main topics dozens of times in his conversations.
@Crusher Corps Also, its' not a matter of being "afraid". Jamar is on Vlad's platform, spewing disrespect which reaches a lot of people. Em is an emcee, emcees battle. Most traditional emcees in Em's position would want to respond, regardless of the fact that Jamar posses no real threat, it's a respect thing.
Other Examples: Canibus went at LL Cool J in the 90s, when LL was on top, and Canibus was a nobody, LL still responded.
Common was still underground when he dissed the West Coast, Ice Cube (a super star) could've ignored it but took it personal and responded to it. Point is famous rappers still battle lesser known ones, because emcees have pride.
@Crusher Corps Shady's not afraid, he doesn't care about Jamar. Shadys next to the greats, and gets props from the real ogs, why tf would he care about Jamar
😆
Rakim stated that Eminem is a beast... That has to weigh much heavier than Lord Jamar opinion...
Agreed. But we ain't from the hood so we can't tell him nothing.
Yap Rakim said it
@soid drone slayer are you serious? Why is it yall only do that for em. "He sAiD A beAst, nOt THE bEasT".
Niqqa hes a BEAST! He said what he said. Yall be sounding paranoid, like if someone were to say "THE" yall pull the emergency alarm, "Alert! We have to convince this guy otherwise! He must think like us!"
Lord Jamar opinion has no weight at all... AT ALL. Rakim opinion... doesn't get much heavier than that!
@@edwin99901 hilarious😂😂😂
Eminem featured on : Welcome to D-Block with the LOX
If that ain't a certified hood pass I don't know what is
Donald Anderson Eminem has soo many certified hood passes in that sense, it’s a waste of time listening to this Lady Jamar
He wouldnt ever step in the hood anyways
Facts. Underrated song on the album.
He even gotta do the mf hook
Em ain't got street cred... He talkin bout the same em that pistol whipped ol boy back in '01?
The man who kissed his ex wife that divorced him the year before it happened. Yeah, real street cred.
"You mention me, millions of views, attention in news
. I mention you, lose-lose for me, win-win for you"
When the attentions on you your 10 cents are 2. Lord "No Bar" Jamar who?
You mention me, millions of views, attention in news
I mention you, lose-lose for me, win-win for you
Billions of views
-Eminem
I'm off the chain like Kayla brown!
Ew cringe
666LaVey666 Yeah but that hip hop flow and stuff shouldn't be included in a battle imo it should just be who hit each other with the words harder, but that's my opinion I don't mind if other people disagree but whoever has the better lyrics I say they won. If it was a battle of the songs rap devil did seem a lot more like an actual song and I enjoyed it I won't lie, but listening to the stuff em said made me putter back and get that stink face like damn he really said that and that's why I believe he won.
@666LaVey666 well if yr blind see crypt videos .... thats all :)
@666LaVey666 you forgot to add all the videos talking about the beef after Killshot came out to the view count of the Killshot video and the fact the counter is still ticking away... its only been one year.
Minutes by minutes, I'm feel like this whole video is just about teasing and abusing Jamar 😂😂😂
Nick Cannon: “Eminem is in my top 5.”
Also Nick Cannon: “You ain’t no lyricist!”, “You’ll never be a legend!” & “You’re the KKK of this Generation!”
It literally deserves no reply😂 consider the source
Makes no sense right
The Breakdown the sole reason why I subscribed to this channel
I keep forgetting why I did uknw
Word!! I miss Justin though, his articulation and insight of Hip-Hop culture was unmatched.
Agreed
So Dr. Dre and Em wasnt bumping in the hood? Hmm..
In 2001 like stop taking it in the ass em just outdated lil pump n ugly god the only ones kinda keeping that wacky style
Dancing is forbidden this where some troll would put a clown emoji.
@@moneymantwin1267 who tf even remembers ugly god
Forgot about dre is ONE SONG lmfaoo
Good luck finding someone bumping Eminem outside
The thing about being a "guest" in the house of hip hop, a guest by definition is a non contributing visitor. Eminem has put more eyes, earned more money, and spans more decades on top than any black rapper out there. And if Eminem is a "guest" does would that make Tiger Woods a guest in the house of golf? Obama or any other black leader a guest to the United states government? There's no such thing as a guest. If that's the case then you are taking a s*** on Martin Luther Kings speech "I have a dream" ... Equality I believe was the main idea. If Eminem is not counted as equal it's cuz he is counted as better.. and if you can't count him as equal than it is because of racism by the black man, not by the white man this time. Anyway ....if you think of battle rap and hip hop like the rankings of a heavyweight division, Eminem has gone thru more top people and remains undisputed champ.
The thing is, back then Eminem was the main face of rap, and Lord Jamar wasn't. And who came up with this 'street cred' stuff and saying he's a "guest"? The new generation of rappers that came after the era of Eminem, and they're saying that he's a guest.
Dude, if eminem life struggle isn't street cred, i don't know wtf... Imma a 3rd world country latin boy and i rock eminem since i started in hip hop, and i can relate to songs made by em, he has s huge global impact in the culture
Yes "GLOBAL" Say it louder. These mfs think their hood is larger than the rest of the world.
This is the MOST EVER anyone has even said the words “Lord Jamar” in a sentence.
That didn't make any sense😂
Lol FOH with that bullshit B.. he put in work...
BREAL0922 in the last 2 weeks I’ve heard more from him then I’ve heard in the last 20 years.
Wait lord who?
Not every black person is from the hood and not every white person is from the suburbs so this lord jawhothefuckareyou needs to stop😂
@Saeed B. it's not about creating the culture, it's about what you can contribute to the culture
@Saeed B. em did what he could to put hip-hop on the map
@Saeed B. 😂 it's funny how you got so butt hurt lol, hip hop has been on the map dummy. All I was saying is Eminem contributed.
@Saeed B. plz don't have the same mentality as that Jamar dude. If you're an artist you're an artist. It's not about stealing YOUR culture, if you can spit bars then let's hear it
@Saeed B. so are you still sticking to the victim 💳, lol jus bcuz YOU created it doesn't mean someone of different color can't contribute
There's one thing that everyone seem to be forgetting with Em. See as far as I understood the hip-hop Em belongs to did rise out of black communities, where people gathered in areas and evolved from people who started speaking their minds in Cyphers which eventually led to freestyles and rap battle events at venues, everyone showing their skills and lyrics and Em was involved heavily in all of that before he got signed. There's a difference, I think, between that and gangster rap, like a lot of what NWA, Nas, Biggy and Pac put out and that's what Jamar is getting mixed up with here. I think people from the hood listen to gangster rap, and less of the lyrical stuff like Em, Hopsin, Logic, Cole if you get what I'm saying. So for me it's like you got two schools of hip-hop but it's all hip hop.
We all can relate to struggles and trying to overcome them. Whether you live in the ghetto or a trailer park.. doesnt matter... So yes, Em definitely has street cred💯
bro even most of the legends respect em ,who the fuck is lord jamar ..em paved the culture and inspired people while what did jamar do?literally people thrasing em they don t hold a candle to his legacy
Eminem = Asia, Europe , Africa , North America, South America , Antartica , Oceania
Lord Jabal = vlad casting couch
India too
basha msk Asia
I just mentioned it specifically
Hayden Ash
Lord Jamar***
And he's an OG. He used to rap in the 80s so he'd prolly EAT Eminem for 3 square meals.
But ngl I haven't heard a single track by him tho so can't say 👐
@@seekerundue quote any of his bar
Ill wait
Lord Jamar secretly loves Eminem and needs to find his way out of the closet.
His reacting to someone saying that would be priceless.
So technically, he should be Cleaning out his closet 😂😂🤦🏽♂️
I said I'm sorry Ja-Mar, I never meant to hurt you, I never meant to make you cry, but tonight, come out of the closet.
Lies
prove it
I had no idea who lord Jamal was until his vlad interview,, enough said
No disrespect but he's an OG from Brand Nubian. If you don't know who they're then you need more research on hip hop roots
Nowadays Lord Jamar is just some washed up old head.
Im 26 years old and I remember Eminem lyrics from his 1st album...Lord jamar can say what he wants bout EM but he impacted alot of rappers
Factz💯💯💯
WACK YOUNG RAPPERS THAT MORE THAN LIKELY HAVEN'T LIVED THE BLACK EXPERIENCE IN THE U.S.
@@zroy9263 you a straight hater
@@zroy9263 wack young rappers like kendrick?
At least people know Eminem in the hood, nobody knew jamar til he started talking about Em..
True. Am black and from south Africa 🇿🇦 been playing eminem since 2000, where am from everybody know eminem. But jamal I just heard of him when he started trashing eminem.
Good point
Nobody in the hood bump no Eminem dumb ass that comment is stupid @Wayne Wilson..
Plenty of old head black people who have Muslim knowledge understand Brand Nubian(Lord Jammar group)
@4Respect4Freedom4loyalty no
Let's be real no one's heard this guy's name in the past 25 years before he started beefing at em lol
EXACTLY 🤜
Aside from a handful of guest spots he ain’t had a solo or BN joint in over 10 years
Facts. Example I had no fucking clue who this dude is before his Em beef. And he has Lord in front of his name, thinks he's rap royalty?! Think not
He is tho, the fact that you've never heard of him doesn't change that
Smartest shit I've heard all day😂
FACTS !
So no one is bumping Eminem, where did he get all those record sales from?
Shake that ass by Eminem ft Nate dogg was played the most in my hood at a certain time. People only saying that shit cause they jealous of Shady.
White kids, Asians and Persians are the ones bumping your boy EM! Oh yeah, and simple un-funky black dudes like a sucka named Page Kennedy
@@zroy9263 racist detected he is the most streamed international artist in africa according to deezer this year so instead of hating straight up your facts you racist people worldwide listen to him United States is not the world.
@@zroy9263 us is full of racists.
@@zroy9263 see thats where you're wrong. Im Latino and I know alot Latino people that listen to listen to Eminem or if they dont listen to him on the daily they at least undertsand hes ill and have him on their top 5 or 10. You cant just assume only white kids and Asians listen to him when you dont know shit outside of your circle. Real hip hop fans know Eminem is top 10 dead or alive.
all great points
Crank Lucas in the building
I can't name one Lord Jamar song, but I can name a bunch of people and top tier artists who have been influenced by Eminem. Even though I didn't grow up in the hood, I am still black and I still have to deal with problems black people in America face. Eminem has been my favorite rapper for almost 10 years and he always will be.
True bro. Very true
@Mo so what? Trailer park ny dawg? Watchu think? Thats a rich great life?
@Mo he didnt grow up in the trailer park. He moved countless times, trailer park was just one place he briefly stayed.
@culturefreedom89 punks jump up to get beat down was his best verse.
L. Marquee I can imagine your under 30...Any one over 30 are well aware of Brand Nubian...Grand Puba was a legendary MC...
Lol this dude straight up roasting Lord Jamar
hell yeah🤣
roasted & toasted
Page is funny as fk man check him out, he a wild good actor too
He isn't even roasting Jamar, he's only spitting factz💯💯💯
Now in January 2020 when Em dropped an album in the middle of the night and it's gotten more listens and reactions than anything I've ever seen AND there was ZERO public hyping of it. He can drop a song during an apocalypse and people would be listening to it in MORSE code.
He fucking rekt Jamar in Music To Be Murdered By.
I never heard of Jamar until now. I knew of Brand Nubian growing up, but have/had no idea who the individuals were in the group and don't remember any of their music. I'd say the majority of people are that way.
It seems like Jamar is just jealous and trying to get views for money like MGK, and Cannon, among others and ride that for as much money as they can off of Em's success.
There are some great lyricists out there, but Em is THE top dog, hands down in that category. His double, triple, quadruple entendre plus wordplay layered on top of that is undeniable and unbeatable except for him one-upping himself.
If I was a writer I could easily write books about Em's lyrics by themselves.
OK, got to get another Jack and Coke..... LOL
"Listening in Morse code" I'm fucking dyin
Being white & growing up in a "non-hood environment", me & alot my friends/people I know- listened too Eminem,DMX,Nas,Jay-Z,E-40,Outkast,Gucci Mane, all of those rappers in my book earned their respect & are very talented. Who cares what people listen too in the "Hood" it's about your music having an impact around the world!
Wedgoku I love your taste of music. I can see that ur a real rap fan.
Gucci mane aint talented
I like how this guy explains both sides so clearly. It’s impressive. Very cool vid.
DX you got to keep this hoast he's hell'a funny.
Pay the man what ever he wants.
He was the qb in the second season of Blue Mountain State. Fucking hilarious show
you can check out his instagram "pagekennedy" he used to do vine and now he does skits, acts and also raps
raidon randall
Eminem has 4 classics. Slim Shady LP, Marshall Mathers LP, The Eminem Show and definitely Recovery. How can you exclude the Recovery album from the albums you consider as "classics"? Definitely a completely different album from the other 3, but listen to it. Each song is awesome.
bro u got me screaming like an alarm clock calling recovery a classic recovery is my 2nd least favorite em album bro put infinite in there even though it isn't an lp and you got yourself your 4 classics
@@wa-egg9666nah...Recovery is one the best album Em has put out but that's just my opinion and Infinite is definitely a classic.
1 Em/Pac
3 Biggie/Jay-z
5 50 cent
My top 5
mark huxley
Mine is:
Styles P
Jadakiss
NaS
PAC
BIG
1. Eminem
2. Biggie
3. Rakim
4. Nas
5. Jay Z
My Top 5
Respect your choices though✌✌✌
Eminem
Pac
KRS
Jay-Z
.. i dont know to who i'd be giving the 5th
1. Em
2. Andre 3000
3. Eazy e
4. Wu-tang clan (cant pick one)
5. Pac
1. D12 (if a group count)
2. BIG
3. Big L
4. Eminem
5. 50 cent/king von
I didn’t even know lord Jamar till he started talking about Eminem
Because you obviously don't know real hip hop. Only rap by the main stream.
@@markopower26 Brand Nubian was relevant 30 years ago and then they disappeared, Eminem is still relevant, otherwise why is Jamar more famous for bitching about Em than his own hiphop group?
Marko Blackwell he was 15 when he said that shit about black girls. In addition to this he was pissed off. He later apologised for it as well
Idk know who he was until em roasted him
@@davidmacko6309 you're obviously under 30-35 y.o lol
As far as being "street" "
I don't know shit about no choppen rocks but what you know about Hip Hop shops rockin spots" Eminem.
Wow dude perfect example
EM came up battling in DETROIT the 8mile movie was based off his life back then before DRE found em
People need to leave em alone he shows how much he respects black people many times
Here in Africa we've been listening to Eminem since the 90's
Haha this comment made me laugh.
Xame here🤣🤣🤣
You not in Africa
Stop lying you ain't in Africa.
There you have it folks, the blackest people fuck wit Em.
In the hood....not really, people were not bumping Eminem. That does not detract from Em's spot in the culture because they bump Gucci and Gucci couldn't beat Em's shadow in a rap battle. Plenty of dope rappers aren't hood or street credible. Even some of the ones you think are. The conversation is never about Eminem's ability because that's untouchable. He got bars, he got hits, he got longevity, he got impact he got battle skills.....the fact that rap originated in the hood has little to do with the streets. How street was the Sugar Hill Gang? Run-DMC?
So Eminem is hip-hop. Point blank period end the sentence. Lord Jamar did all this talking but didn't hop in the booth. That's not hip-hop at all, and admittedly a black Eminem wouldn't have sold as much but he would still would have been a respected lyricist.
Koldraiyne DownSkayle the only comment that matters
No one bumping Eminem in the hood? Really? How many hoods in US have gone to? Why do I suddenly feel America is a small country? 🤔
Word. I see it as real Hip Hop. The hood, which is unfair to say , but black folks did listen to Em 20 yrs ago. The music just got wack, whether your black or white. Real Hip Hop is underground again.
Good try. Lord Jamar doesn’t have to jump in the booth to speak on Hip Hop and the effects that Eminem’s Pop fan base has in rap music. In fact, Eminem & many of his invested rap loyalists should never mention how or when someone should honor raps traditional methods, as much as they bypass them. Listen to the real problem Jamar is speaking to & remember that Eminem’s fan base is the true problem. In fact, it could be another rapper entirely. Do pop fans deserve say when it comes to Hip Hops debate on GOAT rapper? Hip Hop is just one of many musical art forms to come from the 12%. All narratives had this same pattern to somehow “circumvent” the communities they originated from. Today they still fight racism, so let’s not act as if this is about appreciation and not popularity. Personally, I hold Eminem responsible for not understanding past history’s point in the back & forth. Or maybe he does. Either way, he should be educating his disrespectful fans & supporters that ..”Yes, Pop culture can, has, will, and is a threat to rap music and it begins through marginalizing the people who give it life.” There are numerous other white rappers who far exceed Eminem in voicing these things, so that alone carries weight in legacy. GOAT wouldn’t still be more concerned over his own insecurities and pretending as if he doesn’t know that rap is still tied to race ......especially in America
Micah Atkins that long ass comment and you still didn’t make any sense at all
"lord jamar?"
"I don't know lord jamar bro"
This made me laugh so hard. lol i dont even know
I don't know anyone who does not have EM in his top five. Heck I don't even know someone who does not have him at Number ONE and I just realized that. How come every damn time someone talks trash about EM it's someone I never even heard of dispite being a hiphop addict vor 20 years now?? And how come every DAMN time someone gets the Trashtalk of Lord jamar, it's somehow ALWAYS a white dude who has success. Nigga I smell SALT, and that's it.
“You ain’t gon sell two copies if you pressed a double album.” Eminem @ lord jamar lol
“Cus I jdgaf!” One of my favs ✌🏽
'The world is bigger than NewYork and The hood' 14:33
more hood in the world?
Facts 💯💯💯💯🗣
What's your point? If it wasn't for New York there would be no HipHop! Why niggaz act so dumb acting like they don't understand the concept of LORD JAMAR's point and its larger implications.
Rj V - big facts 💯...
Wil Mars you’re joking right ? You know hip hop exists in every country ? It’s not invented in America? Personally Russian rap is fucking legendary, and I feel sorry for anyone who can’t listen to Баста, Гуф or Miyagi to name a few....
We jammed Em’s music in the streets of H-town, back in the day!
🐐
LORT(Not calling that fool lord) Jamar needs to keep doing his thing. All he's doing(inadvertently) is making people take a closer look at Em. You know what they'll find? BARS.
I'm black and Eminem is my favorite rapper to me he is a goat you can't deny what he has done.
"A Goat" not "The Goat" I think that is the distinction.
👍 .guy my one tht for real You 💯 Respect
Em will go bar for bar with anyone, ✅
Em talks about HIS life and gives us his truest thoughts, ✅
Em gives props to ALL the greats from Pac and Big to Flavor and Shock G, ✅
What’s a Goat to a GOD?
@Head Hunter indeed.
It's like the NBA no one player is the goat but bill Russell 11 chips and people say mj, Kobe lbj Wilt and Ben Wallace no one player is the goat
Funny these dudes act like em didn't come from the hood just because he's white lol. Em is more hood than a whole lot of current rappers if people were being honest with themselves
Exactly em stayed on runyon and novara two hood ass streets off 7mile
People act like poor white people don't exist? Maybe it's too make them feel comfortable lol
Ummm em from the trailer park the trailer park is definitely not the projects or the hoods
@@michaelmartin9270 yeah when he was a kid but he had his own place in the hood lol as an adult ya knowww
I guess you’ve never seen a ghetto that isn’t suburban sprawl but let me fill you in, the area of Detroit where he’s from is a trailer park that’s in the ghetto, or “hood”. Eminem spent his entire childhood hanging out in the hood because he wanted to be around hip hop. Go give yellow brick road a listen and fill yourself in.
I'm guessing Lord Jamar never got outta the hood 😂
To be clear- Em has done more for hip hop than lord jamar
Straight factz💯💯💯
I guess VANILLA ICE did more for HIP HOP than BRAND NUBIAN as well since that wack white rapper sold more records than most black rappers in music history! LOL
@@zroy9263 i wasn't even saying that based on sales records. The fact that Em can crossover tho into diff platforms and dif fans def attributes to the Culture. Em says it in songs hes influenced a lot of today's rappers, more so than Jamar ever did. Jamar wanting Hip Hop to be one way, one color, is counterproductive
@@zroy9263 also thats a lazy, tired ass counter to the conversation. Come with some substance and less shock value
Eminem is world wide lord jamar talks about the hoods from one country
Hip-Hop doesn't care about how you look or where you're from. But to me it seems as if Lord Jamar was salty that it's not a pure Afromerican thing anymore
True!
More like one county lmao
FACTSSSSSSS
@ENY Chica You missed the point completely.
Saying Em’s records don’t matter is like saying the scoreboard doesn’t matter in a basketball game🤦🏼♂️
I'm a black nerd so I understand why I don't get a vote lol. But Em is the best to me. If you said it's Jay-Z I guess I can't argue.
@@Loophole23742 lmaoooo!!! u mad bruh! EM the Goat
There seems to be a good reason I can't see sounds with my eyes alone and the fact that hip-hop reached deep into a trailer park and sparked one of the most talented lyricsist to persue a dream speaks volumes about the artform and not race.
Eminem is one of the GOATS... And hell I'm brown 😂💀💀💀
I judge an Emcee purely on their mic SKILLZ..
that's how it should be
@CriticalThinkerZ ... But Kamikaze has over 1.2 Billion streams and he's the best selling rapper of 2018 and 2019. But those are just some inconvenient little things called facts, prolly best we ignore them.
@CriticalThinkerZ Nobody asked or really cares where you do or don't hear Eminem. The hard data proves you laughably wrong. The conversation doesn't go on, your inadequate come backs don't help. You're just wrong.
@CriticalThinkerZ who the fuck asked you? What you said was irrelevant anyway lol
I judge by Overall Creativity because you have some lyricist who can't pick beats..
Lord Jamar acting like he the lord of black people. Who tf is Lord Jamar again?
Someone that laid down the foundation in a culture that you are now participating in
I literally haven’t heard of Lord Jamar until all this shit went down. Lol. 🤷♀️
If you have to ask who Lord Jamar is...you REALLY don't know Hip Hop (you can probably run down a shortlist of these mumble rap clowns, though)
Rahul Benny brand Nubian>d12
He a KING
"what would you do if he came after you?"
"Run"
12:52 what TI said
But I think all of these rappers just saying good things about Eminem for political reasons ... cause they want to keep working in the industry or want favors in the future
Props to Page Kennedy for speaking the truth about this on going situation.
Finally someone with some sanity talking about who the GOAT is
Just the invention and use of the term "Stan" qualifies him as one of the greats.
Lord Jamar needs a brain surgeon to cut out his jealousy center.
Eminem is in my top 1. Lord Jamar isn’t in my top 2 million.
Jamar couldn't possibly make your list anyway he's not an artist he's a vlogger lol
😂😂😂🔥🔫
Lord Jamar, sounds like a legitimate fruit basket company. " come on down to lord Jamars low hanging fruitatorium. we have your fruits, your way"
@Saeed B. what does it matter he or anyone else is white ? What does that have to do with anything, bit racist there bud ! Yeah btw " em is a guest, because facts". Yeah I usually dont respond to people who state things without facts, just wanted to state how stupid you sound. Even his own peers, which are some of the best to ever do it have said he is not a guest. Just because he is white is a stupid reason, how are we going to be any better as a society if we have people like you segregating.
@UCLTU7aZCubXO36Mz_3idGwQ clearly you dont know much about hip-hop have you not seen the list of BLACK rappers that have said he is one of the best to ever do it ? All nationalities listen to eminem, he is a hip hop artist. Has sold the most records, had the most hit songs, has taken on and beat a lot of other good artists. All you idiots that think you are only the best hip hop artist only of he is black is fucking stupid. If there was a black country artist that made the most hits, had the most albums sold, had respect from his peers. He would be the best nobody would say well since white people started country music no other colors can be the best at it ? That is a fucking stupid argument, and you are stupid af to even be sharing that with people. There have been A lot of black people in all kinds of genres of music and nobody says oh that person is a guest in the house of that genre. Stop being so closed minded and pick better arguments. You have to show me valid points as to why em is a guest. Not just because he is white, get the fuck outta here with that shit man.
Til I collapse is the number 1 work out song in the gym, they bumpin him in the gym getting pumped up
Gayyyyy
gets187 yes I think lord jamar is gay
I fucking hate that song but i love Eminem i just prefer any other Eminem song over that. Wait hold almost every Eminem song I forgot about Fack and Big Wiene. Actually i would take fack over til i colapse.
@Silent Void maybe but i just can't stand it.
So a bunch of girls in spin class and CrossFit cultists think he’s great?
Sounds about right.
I'm a 40 year old and I never heard of Lord Jamar till Eminem mention him
Never ever heard of Lord Jamar till I googled him, and still never heard of him or his group....
Tupac: Rapped about his mother doing drugs.
Eminem:Rapped about his mother doing drugs.
Tupac:Rapped about being poor growing up.
Eminem: Rapped about being poor growing up.
Tupac:Rapped about his father not being in the picture.
Eminem: Rapped about his father not being in the picture.
Tupac: Rapped about his troubles with love and women.
Eminem: Rapped about his troubles with love and women.
Some black people: I can relate to Tupac but I can’t relate to Eminem.
🤣
😂😂
xD
😂😂😂😂😂 man wtf
@Goopy Le Grande so did em, listen to headlights
The thing is. Em didn't always live in trailer parks. They moved a lot. At many points in his life Eminem absolutely lived in the ghetto.
Recently saw a video of Em complaining that everybody though he grew upp in a trailer park. XD He has lived in ones but during a time he was swapping schools every two months.
@@Jungfrun1 was it the behind the scenes to come on let me ride?
@@edwin99901 I dunno he was wearing a red ''hat'' dont know the word for it in english
@@Jungfrun1 yea, it was the "come on let me ride" video. I seen it too.
@minute made Lol, thx we have an other word for it. Mössa.
Everyone gets that wrong. Em never lived in a trailer park. That's just from 8 mile. His childhood house is literally on the cover of his album lol.
Thanks for making this vid bro✊🏽This was very needed
“Nick doesn’t want any more problems with Eminem “
That didn’t age well lmao
Lol he’s practically been begging for problems and Em is just ignoring him
Not at all
Eminem killed Nick Cannon without even saying a word
@@gabrielpasqualini8413 Nick wanted to box Em in the ring but Em denied. Everytime Nick wants to settle the problems once and for all in person Em always stays quiet. You see who's really afraid of who.
Yeah Nick Cannon became perhaps the only rapper to lose a rap battle without a single response from the opponent. It was so sad and pathetic.
"i only like your music if you have a certain skin colour 😡😡😡"
I've heard of lord Jamar because he had something to say about Eminem!
Africa and France,full of black people,listen mostly to Eminem. We learned English from his lyrics as well as his clear pronunciation !
Boosie : "Lard Jamar?"😭😭
Josh Jordan 😂😂
Not surprised boosie doesnt know him though lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I just heard of him. Like Now
Lord jamar is a joke I've never heard of him before the vlad tv interview. But regardless of color eminem is dope one of the best lyricist ever
And I suppose Jimi Hendrix was a guest in rock and roll... And Tiger Woods isn't a legit golfer right? Get the hell outa here with that bs
What ever happened to judging a man not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character? lord Jamar sounding like the black Hitler these days
Jim hendrix was not a guest cuz rock and roll was created by black people.
Anyway eminem is not a guest also
He love the art
And he is among the best.
Thank you so much for saying that.
We created rock n roll
@@rabsonhands4599 okay I guess the origin of rock and roll is debatable. Then let's say basketball - which was invented by a white dude and started with white people. would it not be ridiculous for me to assert that black people are guests in basketball?
Kasper why are you still arguing about this "being a guest" bullshit when everyone in the comments disagree with him being a guest... Are you slow? And using rock and roll as an example shows how shallow your knowledge really is...
I know I'm late but Charlemagne just argued that Em (specifically) couldn't be a GOAT because he wasn't played in the clubs. By that logic, several rappers are cut out of the conversation. Too commercial? Not commercial enough? Too street or not street enough? I guess it depends on who you're talking about. Some can do no wrong while some can do nothing right.
You know how you know he the goat? When dudes is out here making a living off bashing him. In ems new album he compared himself to Tom Brady talking about just that. When hating you becomes a viable occupation you the GOAT.
You can't make a living off hating JayZ or Tupac or Nas.
I know what you're trying to say but, it's an exaggeration to say someone is literally "making a living" off of being a hater. Vlad's couch ain't Lord Jamar's day job lol.
But you're right that hating Em gets more attention than hating any other rapper, but that's because Em is the most popular. So you're basically just saying that Em is the GOAT because he's the most popular, in a roundabout way.
And most hip hop heads already disagree with popularity equally greatness, Drake ain't Greater than Kendrick or Cole, even tho Drake is the most popular right now
I grew up in the hood and everybody was bumping the real slim shady, B**ch please 2, the way I am, under the influence.
Facts. People just don't remember/too young to know better. Em is the highest selling music artist of the 2000s, of any genre. From 99-04, he literally ruled music. Regardless of what race or background you come from, you heard his shit.
NOT IN MY HOOD
@@TheMidtownPookiee lmao
@@TheMidtownPookiee nobody gives two shits about yo hood, so gtfoh
Bitch please 2 classic
I love how lord Jamar thinks he speaks for "the core audience"
i dont get all this black people cant relate to Ems music as he raps about different things, not all black people deal drugs or kill people or have crap parents
@@jasonwhite4489 Right..But we don't like half gay bars either
@@goddy357 biggie had some suspect gay bars bruhhh. U need to listen to biggies lyrica
@@solodolo4098 Nowhere near as many as ya boy..Biggie had 2..There all gay just depends on how much you can stomach
@@goddy357 exactly so u just contradicted yourself bruhhh... Nah biggies were more suspect tbh
The fact that Eminem knows Lord Jamar from his Brand Nubian music WAY back in the day and most other people don't have a clue who he is, proves even further than Em IS the culture. He's lived and breathed it his whole life and now he one of the Goats. You know who's not? Lord freakin' Jamar!
The number one criteria to be a GOAT is contribution. Which Eminem has done. And we all experienced hardships, what does it matter if you grew up in the hood or in a trailer park. We all feel the same when we're faced with hardships. So I give it to Eminem for his uniqueness, technical skills and all the things he's contributed to the hip hop culture. I consider him to be one of the greats alongside the many greats before him
Somewhere in the hood right now, Em feat Joyner Lucas - "Lucky You" is bumpin
Bro... You're white
@@dondasburner615 White people live in the hood too. And not all black people do.
@@PrimeraEspadaStark I'd imagine that but we don't really get to say we are a part of "the hood"
@@dondasburner615 did you figure that out all by yourself lol
@@geodudepnw2317 not really i had some help
Eminem show is actually certified Diamond world wide
Nice
mc hammer was the first rapper to reach diamond status and he brought hip hop rap music into the mainstream
Eminem's flow was heavily influenced by Masta Ace.
"Lord Jamar will live looong...
Cause I give strong blows, to the heads of my foes, dreds flow, they give me power as they grow.
Watch out rassclot you'll catch a speed knot, heed not...or hell will be your home.
Lord Jamar, Sadat as we swell your dome."
(Lord Jamer-Punks Jump up to get Beat Down.)
Since this Lord guy got so much to say let's put them in the ring face to face with a Mic
What do you consider lyrical? :D Random words in rhymes without any sense? :D
@@KingKongovOtec lyrical: (of literature, art, or music) expressing the writer's emotions in an imaginative and beautiful way. Here you go man.
He already admitted that Em was better than him lyrically...yet he STILL wants to discredit Em's legacy and impact. LOL There's only ONE black person that I personally know in my life that doesn't fuck with Eminem like that. But he 1) acknowledges his legacy and impact (unlike Lord Jamoron) and 2) doesn't even live in the hood. I don't live in the hood either, but about half of the black people I know that do got Eminem either bumping in their rides or their tiny portable speakers connected to their phones with an aux cord while chilling outside on their front porch on some "Friday" shit. Lord Jamoron and these dumbasses who agree with him need to understand that the individual hood they live in is NOT the ONLY hood in existence and they don't speak for EVERY hood occupied by mainly black people, let alone black people around the world in general (hood or not). This video right here (along with other videos by ETLifestyle) shows PURE FACTS, but these people in the comment section wanna keep finding some loopholes that ain't even there. And I 100% guarantee you that AT LEAST 75% of the black people who run reaction channels here on RUclips and react to Eminem content on a CONSISTENT basis are either from or living in the hood (i.e. NoLifeShaq & Big Quint Indeed, just to name a couple). And I'm willing to bet my ENTIRE Shady Records CD collection on that as a proud black man myself who is a DIE HARD fan of Eminem and his whole label's now 2-decade movement.
@@user-qg8cb3tl4r 🤣
He will fail epically!
Let's not forget THE UP IN SMOKE TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or the "anger management tour" here in Toronto
The Up in Smoke Tour is legendary
Still got the DVD
John Brown people tend to forget that Eminem was one of the faces of the up in smoke tour
Fuck yeah!!!
Bruh this is fuckin great definitely GOAT and or TOP 5 everything you said is on point