@@daniels7907 No, Britain does that on it's own. Think about Brexit - how a super complicated issue was ignored in favour of basic simple phrases. "Brexit means Brexit" and "a Red White and Blue Brexit"...
@@itskarl7575 I agree, also the exact opposite has happened. Boris Johnson had made it law that historical statues cannot be removed by government action in the interest of the nation though they can add context.
Nelson's Pillar in Dublin was controversial from when it went up in 1809 until it was blown up in 1966. Edinburgh has a similar column depicting Henry Dundas, "the uncrowned King of Scotland," who dug his heels in against the abolition of slavery. How long before he comes down too?
Interesting Nelson's victory at Trafalgar paved the way for the Royal Navy being able to enforce legislation against the slave trade that otherwise couldn't have been passed only a few years later.
Britain abolished the slave trade in the early 19th century but many other nations still practiced it and yes….it still goes on today. People forget this. Why do we always think of slavery in the transatlantic sense ? It’s gone on before and going on since
@@nicksmart5469 That is a very good question and one I often ask myself given that I work to stop human trafficking. However the Royal Navy were enforcing anti-slavery outside the Atlantic too on occasion with probably greater cost of life overall, that's another moral dilemma. However hindsight is a challenging thing.
@@jadapinkett1656 Again, though, hardly the only example of systematic enslavement, either. Actually, probably even moreso if anything, in modern times, barring those bizarre individual cases that are heard of from time to time involving psychopathic serial~killer types, I would have thought almost all cases of slavery today involve organized crime, or at a minimum, grooming on a large scale, and are, as such, systematic. Besides, while a systematic aspect does imply an added layer of evil, as far as the individual slave is concerned, I don't imagine they especially care about _how_ they came to be enslaved half so much as the the fact that they are... Incidentally, I don't say that _you_ are doing this, obviously, but here seems as good a place as any to mention it: In modern discussions of racism, one very often strongly gets the feeling that people are conflating the terms 'systematic' and 'systemic' in their minds. For all that the word 'Systemic' sounds sinister and _'eeev_ ~il', it doesn't connote planning and agency. 'Systematic', on the other hand, of course, _does._
She was ahead of the times given what's happening in Canada these days after the residential schools scandal and the vandalism on imperialist statues, including Queen Victoria's in Manitoba
@freebeerfordworkers Human ignorance knows no boundaries. People have fought over the dumbest things throughout history and they never seem to learn from it. My money is on Elon Musk's Neuralink to plant a chip in our brains and remind us of atrocities
The difference is, for decades, US activists asked, then demanded confederate statues be moved to museums & cemeteries, where they’re given historical context. That’s exactly what HAS happened in the vast majority of removals that finally happened. They weren’t built as war memorials, after the war, btw. Lee asked no confederate monuments be built. Said they’d be too divisive. Whenever the African Americans reached a key point in Reconstruction & the civil rights movement, Daughters of the Confederacy commissioned statues for prominent display in town centers. Increases in KKK membership & terror campaigns coincided with those moments. DOC also lobbied text book publishers to print books that taught a sanitized, romanticized revision of the history of slavery, the confederacy & segregation. They were so successful, publishers began printing their version for the entire South & some other states, too. The TX school board does something similar, even today.
yes. altering the truth of the past should have no real repercussions down the road, ever. said some guy named winston smith. sadly, one day, he just did not show up to work.
And well beyond Texas. For about century the Texas and Kansas school boards have reviewed standard publishers’ standard textbooks. They insisted on changes whitewashing slavery. Publishers don’t want to make multiple, area-specific editions. So nationwide, all schools have been using textbooks distorted by two deeply white supremacist groups. There’s a fantastic book, Lies My Teacher Told Me, that describes this.
On the issue of pulling down the statues, it's not a straightforward issue and I guess, if forced to chose a side, well - I'm sorry, but I'm on the 'other' one. That said, assuming you're not 'twisting' it of course (!), your's is a good point, well made. (Particularly compared to the usual run of stuff which is high on emotion but low on fact). I don't pretend to be well read on the topic, mind you - for ethnic, historic and geographic reasons, it's not really a subject that 'touches' me, certainly not 'viscerally'; but, while I don't think I could say you've convinced me of the value of removing the statues from public display†, at least not the great majority of them, I must say, you make a better case than most, while opening my eyes to a number of things that I was unaware of. †By which I'd include removal to museums, though that would have to be better than their removal for scrap, having their heads cut off with angle-grinders or knocked off with sledge hammers, etc.etc!
@@johncox2284 Can't remember how it went in the French, but, - Graffiti that was seen in the Paris riots of 1968: "It is forbidden to forbid!" "Don't tell me what I can or cannot do!"
She's brilliant and prescient! Love when the debris hits them ... if only they could have shown each of the statues blowing up. :-D The line from Nelson to Paddington is hilarious and inevitable ...
... people were saying "problematic" in 2017. Probably moreso than now since using the word became such a parody of itself. Like honestly the social climate and political correctness hasn't changed much since 2017, what are you talking about?
@@HellaGust I didn't know this was made that recently. I didn't watch it, just vaguely remembered she did a series at some stage in the past. I know things have been deemed "deeply problematic" for what seems a lifetime. I've heard Front Row on Radio 4. If you want an overdose of PC wokeness, hamfisted virtue signalling, and socio-political bandwagon jumping, that's the show to listen to.
"Dodged a bullet" ? ( I think theres layers to that) Nelson's Pillar was a large granite column capped by a statue of Horatio Nelson, built in the centre of Dublin, Ireland. Completed in 1809 when Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, it survived until March 1966, when it was severely damaged by explosives planted by the I R A . Its remnants were later destroyed by the Irish Army.
@@linsensen1985 Right, I get that, but that's not the world we're living in. The entrenched power structure is not centrist or neutral. This sketch might've worked in the 90s or very early 00s, but under the current regime, it just seems daft.
@@j-mshistorycorner6932 But the conservatives wouldn't have a problem with statues from the past. The attempt to destroy our history is coming from one (very small) section of the illiberal left. (Ftr I'm a member of the _liberal_ left.)
@J-M's History Corner The entire point of things like statues is to commemorate people and/or events. (Except those statues which are purely decorative, in which case they are there to represent culture.) If you are genuinely unaware of the attempts to remove statues, paintings, etc. that have happened in the last few years, then presumably your covid lockdown has enforced a blackout from the media also. Ignoring the obvious in the US as regards the confederate statues, back here in the UK there was a little incident in Bristol which involved vandalising a statue of Edward Colston and throwing it into the sea? There was plenty of media coverage on the matter, I encourage you to look it up.
Straw man. The statuary must simply be moved from the public square, where its spirit is prescriptive, to the museum, where the spirit is descriptive. Our ancestors may have lived in trees, and there's nothing wrong with recognizing it -- indeed we should be reminded of it. But I don't think it's the right direction to move toward today.
Well, unfortunately, the tribalism of today's public discourse is moving us exactly in that direction. Regarding statuary, I'd just suggest no more statues to be erected so future generations could save effort and money to remove them. Especially if the personage commemorated by a statue today is a teenager who has a plenty of time to do that one arguably wrong thing that would soil her reputation in the future's eyes...
A hoo-ha is a colloquial British term for a fuss or controversy. It usually applies to trivial matters, "All I did was put a DVD back in the wrong place, there's no need for all this hoo-ha". Increasingly it's used as an ironic comment, e.g. after watching Jaws: "Who'd have thought that one little fish would cause such a hoo-ha".
Just you try and blow that statue up. Vandalism is a big no no, a big kaka, a big fu fu in civilised society. Respect old statues, and the people that built them, and the families they fed with the scant, meagre amounts of money they earned.
Tracey Ullman is a known quantity and quality but her sketchwriters here are bang on. Blow up everything that has the potential to cause the slightest offence to any group of people big or small. And no Tracey is not far right as far as we know...
Watching this after the high drama in Canada about the alleged bodies of children found....which have not really been found...it is conjecture which has not been proven...but they pulled down the statue of Queen Victoria.
No, those schools ABSOLUTELY had mass graves. Yes, some of the estimates have been revised down - Marieval from 751 to 600, Kamloops from 215 to 200 - but if your primarily emotional reaction to HUNDREDS OF DEAD CHILDREN is "the numbers are slightly wrong" or "deary me that poor statue" then you are part of the problem and can fuck off
Buying and displaying Apple and Nike products, and other brand name electronics and clothes, is also idolizing slavers. People pretend to care about these issues but when it affects them personally their values disappear.
"what very complicated questions need, are very simple answers" - that's some serious thought right there
She must have gotten that bit from the Americans.
@@daniels7907 No, Britain does that on it's own. Think about Brexit - how a super complicated issue was ignored in favour of basic simple phrases. "Brexit means Brexit" and "a Red White and Blue Brexit"...
I think you missed the point
This aged like the finest of wines.
FUCK THE PROGRESSISM
What do you mean, 'aged'? It's still current, as the events it satirises haven't become the past yet.
@@itskarl7575
I agree, also the exact opposite has happened. Boris Johnson had made it law that historical statues cannot be removed by government action in the interest of the nation though they can add context.
you know it's true art, when it's predicting future..
Very true
It did not predict anything. It was parodying statue controversies and discussions that already were ongoing
Nelson's Pillar in Dublin was controversial from when it went up in 1809 until it was blown up in 1966. Edinburgh has a similar column depicting Henry Dundas, "the uncrowned King of Scotland," who dug his heels in against the abolition of slavery. How long before he comes down too?
@@_Meng_Lan are you slow? The skit literally include a line referencing all the statue controversies already happening in the states
@@_Meng_Lan 0:15 I guess you were watching this universe in a parallel universe where Tracey never delivered this line
Interesting Nelson's victory at Trafalgar paved the way for the Royal Navy being able to enforce legislation against the slave trade that otherwise couldn't have been passed only a few years later.
Britain abolished the slave trade in the early 19th century but many other nations still practiced it and yes….it still goes on today. People forget this. Why do we always think of slavery in the transatlantic sense ? It’s gone on before and going on since
@@nicksmart5469 That is a very good question and one I often ask myself given that I work to stop human trafficking. However the Royal Navy were enforcing anti-slavery outside the Atlantic too on occasion with probably greater cost of life overall, that's another moral dilemma. However hindsight is a challenging thing.
@@nicksmart5469 Because it was systematic.
@@jadapinkett1656 Again, though, hardly the only example of systematic enslavement, either. Actually, probably even moreso if anything, in modern times, barring those bizarre individual cases that are heard of from time to time involving psychopathic serial~killer types, I would have thought almost all cases of slavery today involve organized crime, or at a minimum, grooming on a large scale, and are, as such, systematic. Besides, while a systematic aspect does imply an added layer of evil, as far as the individual slave is concerned, I don't imagine they especially care about _how_ they came to be enslaved half so much as the the fact that they are...
Incidentally, I don't say that _you_ are doing this, obviously, but here seems as good a place as any to mention it: In modern discussions of racism, one very often strongly gets the feeling that people are conflating the terms 'systematic' and 'systemic' in their minds. For all that the word 'Systemic' sounds sinister and _'eeev_ ~il', it doesn't connote planning and agency. 'Systematic', on the other hand, of course, _does._
She was ahead of the times given what's happening in Canada these days after the residential schools scandal and the vandalism on imperialist statues, including Queen Victoria's in Manitoba
@freebeerfordworkers Human ignorance knows no boundaries. People have fought over the dumbest things throughout history and they never seem to learn from it. My money is on Elon Musk's Neuralink to plant a chip in our brains and remind us of atrocities
Bloody hell this woman and her ability to change accents is so awesome.
Ikr she’s brilliant
@@rachelgarber1423 They should have made a gender swap reboot of Mrs Doubtfire with Tracey Ullman.
It's about time they cracked down on those marmalade eating Peruvian bears.
I love how she diminishes both sides of the argument and instead of taking one side, pure gold
Forgot Paddington was an illegal
Now he would come in across from France with a naval escort.
Frighteningly prescient...
The difference is, for decades, US activists asked, then demanded confederate statues be moved to museums & cemeteries, where they’re given historical context. That’s exactly what HAS happened in the vast majority of removals that finally happened. They weren’t built as war memorials, after the war, btw. Lee asked no confederate monuments be built. Said they’d be too divisive. Whenever the African Americans reached a key point in Reconstruction & the civil rights movement, Daughters of the Confederacy commissioned statues for prominent display in town centers. Increases in KKK membership & terror campaigns coincided with those moments. DOC also lobbied text book publishers to print books that taught a sanitized, romanticized revision of the history of slavery, the confederacy & segregation. They were so successful, publishers began printing their version for the entire South & some other states, too. The TX school board does something similar, even today.
Thank you for this comment. It really is a completely different situation in the US
yes. altering the truth of the past should have no real repercussions down the road, ever. said some guy named winston smith. sadly, one day, he just did not show up to work.
@@jobob47 thats what history books are for. Statues are for reference, historical documents are for education
And well beyond Texas. For about century the Texas and Kansas school boards have reviewed standard publishers’ standard textbooks.
They insisted on changes whitewashing slavery. Publishers don’t want to make multiple, area-specific editions. So nationwide, all schools have been using textbooks distorted by two deeply white supremacist groups.
There’s a fantastic book, Lies My Teacher Told Me, that describes this.
On the issue of pulling down the statues, it's not a straightforward issue and I guess, if forced to chose a side, well - I'm sorry, but I'm on the 'other' one. That said, assuming you're not 'twisting' it of course (!), your's is a good point, well made. (Particularly compared to the usual run of stuff which is high on emotion but low on fact). I don't pretend to be well read on the topic, mind you - for ethnic, historic and geographic reasons, it's not really a subject that 'touches' me, certainly not 'viscerally'; but, while I don't think I could say you've convinced me of the value of removing the statues from public display†, at least not the great majority of them, I must say, you make a better case than most, while opening my eyes to a number of things that I was unaware of.
†By which I'd include removal to museums, though that would have to be better than their removal for scrap, having their heads cut off with angle-grinders or knocked off with sledge hammers, etc.etc!
In America we have rebellious protesters protesting the rebellious protesters that protest statues of rebellious protesters
I'm trying to do the math on that!
@@johncox2284 Can't remember how it went in the French, but, - Graffiti that was seen in the Paris riots of 1968: "It is forbidden to forbid!"
"Don't tell me what I can or cannot do!"
She is utterly brilliant! That final line: Gold!
The current home secretary would support that decision!
@@lenawagenfuehr53 Bwah-hah-hah-ha!
@@lenawagenfuehr53 They should have made a gender swap reboot of Mrs Doubtfire with Tracey Ullman.
The Simpsons predicting the future again.
Trump as US President
This actually was. The Simpsons was founded on her show, originally!!
@@GingerJoberton Shut up, Ginger.
What complicated questions need is very simple answers . .lol
Paddington bear .. illegal immigrant.. brilliant ..lol
She's brilliant and prescient!
Love when the debris hits them ... if only they could have shown each of the statues blowing up. :-D The line from Nelson to Paddington is hilarious and inevitable ...
All it needed was her saying "Deeply problematic" a few times and this could have been filmed today.
... people were saying "problematic" in 2017. Probably moreso than now since using the word became such a parody of itself.
Like honestly the social climate and political correctness hasn't changed much since 2017, what are you talking about?
@@HellaGust I didn't know this was made that recently. I didn't watch it, just vaguely remembered she did a series at some stage in the past.
I know things have been deemed "deeply problematic" for what seems a lifetime. I've heard Front Row on Radio 4. If you want an overdose of PC wokeness, hamfisted virtue signalling, and socio-political bandwagon jumping, that's the show to listen to.
Bow tie guy is perfect in every way.
Brian from My Parents are Aliens ❤️ this guy was my childhood
@@RK-ep8qy The bonkers restaurant owner from Lead Balloon as well.
Dan Miller from The Thick of It.
Tony Gardner is his name, don't blow it up
Lady Yiaksley is probably the niece-in law of lord Yiaksley, uncle to Bertie Wooster.
You mean uncle George Wooster, Lord Yaxley. She's more likely related to the Death Eater, Corban Yaxley?
@@mustafa1name yea YOUNG LORD YAXLEY
Bless you Tracey! A true national treasure.
WHAT VERY COMPLICATED QUESTIONS NEED ARE VERY SIMPLE ANSWERS
"the next big stink ..." One of her best impersonations.
Tracey is a national treasure.
The way the rocks were thrown back at them 😂
Awwwww! Poor little Paddington Bear.
All the way from Darkest Peru! Priti Patel would put him on the next transcontinental train back, if there was one.
"Dodged a bullet" ? ( I think theres layers to that)
Nelson's Pillar was a large granite column capped by a statue of Horatio Nelson, built in the centre of Dublin, Ireland. Completed in 1809 when Ireland was part of the United Kingdom, it survived until March 1966, when it was severely damaged by explosives planted by the I R A .
Its remnants were later destroyed by the Irish Army.
It’s all come true
Oh my. Saw this today & seems to have predicted what happened in 2020.
Nelson, known at the time as the "Butcher of Naples".
Why in the current climate would an "illegal immigrant" statue be blown up? If anything, they'd put Paddington atop the column to replace Nelson.
Not offending anyone ultimately means not offending right wingers as well.
@@linsensen1985 Right, I get that, but that's not the world we're living in. The entrenched power structure is not centrist or neutral. This sketch might've worked in the 90s or very early 00s, but under the current regime, it just seems daft.
The wokesters wouldn't have a problem with an illegal immigrant.
But the conservatives would.
@@j-mshistorycorner6932 But the conservatives wouldn't have a problem with statues from the past. The attempt to destroy our history is coming from one (very small) section of the illiberal left.
(Ftr I'm a member of the _liberal_ left.)
@@Afterthoughtbtw What history is being destroyed?
@@Afterthoughtbtw yet no one has ever complained about Paddington Bear
@J-M's History Corner The entire point of things like statues is to commemorate people and/or events. (Except those statues which are purely decorative, in which case they are there to represent culture.) If you are genuinely unaware of the attempts to remove statues, paintings, etc. that have happened in the last few years, then presumably your covid lockdown has enforced a blackout from the media also.
Ignoring the obvious in the US as regards the confederate statues, back here in the UK there was a little incident in Bristol which involved vandalising a statue of Edward Colston and throwing it into the sea? There was plenty of media coverage on the matter, I encourage you to look it up.
Painfully true and a reflection of the Woke times now around us. We won the war but lost the peace.
Uncannily prescient. First they came for the statues, and I did not speak out, because I was not a statue.
I don't think the statues did either
What nonsense.
Who cares about statues? Blow them up!
The Confederate statues should come down.
An amazingly large segment of the audience has no idea what you are referring to. But this is, indeed, how it starts.
Effing brilliant, all the way around- all sides of the issue- ridiculous and the dangerous path of censorship
Yep, she nailed it! She perfectly captures the ignorance and stupidity of our shallow, political posturing age.
captain obvious
Brilliant....I hope it doesn't come true.....
It already has....hence the satirical skit originating from this lamentable WOKE cancel culture we live in.
"We're going to blow up Nelson's Column" had no idea Tracey Ullman was in the IRA
I so want Tracey Ullman to be in panel shows.
you can see her laughing at the end of the clip XD paddington bear , illegal immigrant XD LLOOLL
It is good to have Tracey back again.
holy shit I thought this was a new video 😂
Wouldn`t be the first time a statue of Nelson was blown up.
@freebeerfordworkers they were british to me
@freebeerfordworkers It is not denial to say they were british to me. That is the truth.
@freebeerfordworkers I know. Those west brits are desperate.
She predicted the future! 😳🙏🤣
Straw man. The statuary must simply be moved from the public square, where its spirit is prescriptive, to the museum, where the spirit is descriptive.
Our ancestors may have lived in trees, and there's nothing wrong with recognizing it -- indeed we should be reminded of it. But I don't think it's the right direction to move toward today.
Well, unfortunately, the tribalism of today's public discourse is moving us exactly in that direction. Regarding statuary, I'd just suggest no more statues to be erected so future generations could save effort and money to remove them. Especially if the personage commemorated by a statue today is a teenager who has a plenty of time to do that one arguably wrong thing that would soil her reputation in the future's eyes...
Paddington Bear!?!! NooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo.... 🤣
Canada salutes noble Nelson a true British hero!
the effects are much better than some tv shows
Wow, this has aged like Greek yogurt!
Every bit as good as Monty Python, ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Dublin had a big Nelson statue. This is sxactly what a few guys did to it one morning.
that's happening now in 2021
It was happening back in 2017 as well, hence the skit.
HOO-HA, she said, it instead of HOOPLA. HILARIOUS!
'Hoo-ha' is an English term
A hoo-ha is a colloquial British term for a fuss or controversy. It usually applies to trivial matters, "All I did was put a DVD back in the wrong place, there's no need for all this hoo-ha".
Increasingly it's used as an ironic comment, e.g. after watching Jaws:
"Who'd have thought that one little fish would cause such a hoo-ha".
She sounds just like a British gardener whose channel I follow! Tracey nails that upperclass accent!
I love when the rocks fall down on them. LOL
There Will Always Be An England !
Funny......but so close to the truth right this moment !
Whatever condoning means. Posh vocab, not my cuppa tea. I wasted too many years of my life needlessly opening that bloody dictionary and what for?!
Meanwhile the woke ACTUALLY LOVE padding bear because he's an illegal immigrant.
Yeah. Best to leave that one up then.
Not many Peruvians in the UK hardly any...
awesome on so many many levels
Just you try and blow that statue up. Vandalism is a big no no, a big kaka, a big fu fu in civilised society. Respect old statues, and the people that built them, and the families they fed with the scant, meagre amounts of money they earned.
Tracey Ullman is a known quantity and quality but her sketchwriters here are bang on. Blow up everything that has the potential to cause the slightest offence to any group of people big or small. And no Tracey is not far right as far as we know...
Poor Paddington- now to rename everything Paddington to PC
Wonderful and sadly True
Paddington Bear was an illegal immigrant? I thought he was from England.
@@shivaspatel2024 ok
It is too close to real life to be funny.
Quick...Get her a hard hat..!
She is so good 😊
Nelson was a criminal
is that quentin tarantino?
This is most definitely not funny and lends credence to the far rights’ ignorance.
Statue topper eh?
Love it :)))
Quick don't be giving them ideas l;olz!!!Err on the safeside blow it up what all rulers are thinking and doing right now!!
In part 2 of your video blow up Winston Churchill's statue
Illegal immigrant 😂🤣
😆😅😂🤣
Watching this after the high drama in Canada about the alleged bodies of children found....which have not really been found...it is conjecture which has not been proven...but they pulled down the statue of Queen Victoria.
No, those schools ABSOLUTELY had mass graves. Yes, some of the estimates have been revised down - Marieval from 751 to 600, Kamloops from 215 to 200 - but if your primarily emotional reaction to HUNDREDS OF DEAD CHILDREN is "the numbers are slightly wrong" or "deary me that poor statue" then you are part of the problem and can fuck off
Misses the mark. What is happening in the states is not an over reaction. It is a long due accounting for idolizing slave traders and traitors.
This isn't about the states.
Buying and displaying Apple and Nike products, and other brand name electronics and clothes, is also idolizing slavers. People pretend to care about these issues but when it affects them personally their values disappear.
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Haha
So all the woke lunatics were inspired by this sketch then?
Kkkkkkk