also, sony limits the fan of the ps3 so it doesnt make that much noise, if you remove that limit or change it the ps3 will sound like a jet but wont overheat
@@byee I mean, using the fan lowers its lifespan but I prefer to have a working console that I need to replace a fan then a dead rsx that is much harder to replace
Not really! I've always been curious on how the first gen ps3s and 360s handled games like GTA V and the last games of that era. But thats about it, keep up the great work!
Me and my two youngest sons love watching your videos and seeing all the different kinds of systems you get. Plus u do a great job of showing people how to fix most of the common problems they have. Keep up the great work.
In the OLD ps3s when cooling solution and thermal paste replacement doesnt work anymore, u have to go underneath the IHS and replace the thermal paste there. It gets extremely dry in there overtime and so u need to replace thermal paste underneath ihs
@@jrob0021 its not too risky, u will need to use the correct materials to do the delid. I cant remember what people exactly used but i believe it was a flat utensil for dentist that is lengthy enough to cut through the adhesive. I am not entirely sure tho as it has been a long time. learnt the tip from NSC modz on youtube i think.
@@helloimuzumakikira1 i know some people use dental floss, others use palette knives NSC used to also sell these knives that he apparently had make specifically for delidding but i'm not sure if he still does
I should delid my fat PAL 80GB console as it definitely has dried paste under its CPU IHS. Just too scared to do that even though I've delidded some PC CPUs before.
I can't believe you stumbled across my reddit post! ("Modded my CECHB01 with improved cooling!) It was my first ever hardware mod on a console so not the cleanest job. Halfway through drilling the holes I realized if I had a firmer grip on the shell it wouldnt cause the plastic to rupture out and would make cleaner holes. I was following Mystics "Ultimate PS3" guide in improving the cooling on my console. I forgot I even made that post 🤣
Maybe I'm just weird, but if I were the one modding the fan onto the outside of that case, I would've 3D printed a shroud to fit between the fan and case to close the gap 😂
yes because everybody has a 3d printer laying around. people work with what they had and the guy had some random parts that may help. alot of places dont have air conditioning and being a pc owner for over 20 years. cooling can make or break a system. and keeping max temps down even just a little can really make the life of the parts alot longer. also not everyone is skilled with tools or has tools or a workshop to do this kind of stuff. i recently did a crazy idea like this with my computer and couldnt be happier. i have a 240mm radiator that didnt fit inside of the case my 120mm aio died. so i strapped the 240mm on the back on the outside for a while to work till i planned my mod. finally had enough of it looking terrible and i used the side panel without the window to mount the radiator. now my pc looks like some crazy scifi heat vent and it pulls air out of the case to cool but the heat is all outside of the case and cant get back in. i have modded things for me and for friends for years like this and its always worth it. with a crazy enough mind and enough random materials laying around you can actually use your pc for a space heater in the winter and in the summer send all of the hot air out of your room or your house whichever is easier.
@@SoyAntonioGaming yeah ha ha very funny. your computer or console would short in a few mins moisture bro. go try it. i used to put my pc in my window when it was below zero outside just to get the highest possible score on benchmarks when i got new hardware. even in short spurts it would get moisture all over anything warm.
Drilling holes in the PS3 isn't ideal. Usually what it does is redirect cooling from the PSU to the CPU and GPU giving the illusion that the console is cooler when in reality the PSU is most likely going to overheat. I guess the fan on top is to somehow compensate for this even though it would've been better to leave the shell as-is
I don't think that's true, because the fan blades are situated to move the air in the same directions whether you mod the case or not, just with better air intake. If these consoles were were airtight, vacuum sealed, etc, then I'd agree you would have major problems, but they're simply not.
@@Scott-M1One thing is when you add an air intake area it can redirect or slow down the internal air flow if done incorrectly like keeping the side off a computer case.
I dont know if youve heard of the frankenstein mod but it involves swapping the gpu from a later slim to these bc models. ComputerBooter does an awesome job for this service, and i think a video on one would be awesome!
If you'd flip the top fan around, it will even cool better, now they are creating positive air pressure in the console there for the air will be pushed our before its been used to optimal cooling
noctua does make a foam that fits between fans and your radiator ,devices etc. it makes a good seal and would improve the fans ability greatly. i think the system is 10 dollars for 10 pieces all of a different thickness.
These hardware mods are not necessary. Old Phat PS3s were suffering from YLOD, because Sony screwed up the fan curve in the SYSCON - the fan was not spinning with enough speed to dissipate huge amount of heat which CELL/RSX are producing. To prevent from YLOD, all you have to do is to CFW it and increase the fan speed that the CELL/RSX (mainly RSX which is not heat resistant) are not reaching 70-80 C degrees.
PS3 ylod is the same fuckup as xbox rrod: engineers which did not take the classes necessary to know that the design will fail due to improper materials... designed chips for the fab (tsmc) which produced that green assembly with a chip glued&soldered on even with high fan speeds that crappy old gpu (or your fan) will fail at some point, only solution is to put in a slim gpu from a donor and modify the console accordingly (was also sonys method)
Long term, it should last longer being a little cooler. Your exhaust is still the same so I'm not sure the pc components are any cooler but it's own cooling solution isn't working as hard. So at the very least, that should hold up better.
Basically all those custom fans are useless in my opinion because Sony in 2006 showed the airflow demo of the ps3 and with that I mean that the Original cooling system was the best possible
well i have a moded cooling fan ps3 fat just like that. it works pretty well. the only thing that someone to remember is have a once a week or month maintenance of the console depending of how long they usually played.. because of the moded fan, there is much more high chances that the inside of the console will absorb more dirt from the air. maintaining this kind of console will only need a portable vacuum
My conclusion here is that your achieving a higher volume of airflow movement, therefore better thermals, i think a lot of it has to do with the added holes. Well because your fan is a semi fixed rate so only 2 ways to move more fluid increase pressue or increase volume, i think they went with volume, judging from the readings at the axhaust ports (because the temps are similar so i would conclude that airflow is moving at a very similar rate so the air still get heated to same temp you just have more of it to carry more heat, seems like simple fixes sony engineers should have figured out.
for the last few decades of people saying console is beating pc gaming and that the pc gaming would disappear eventually, how the turn table when you realize console gaming is being converged/assimulated into pc hardware industry. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
nah fr LOL I told people when the Ps5/Series X came out bro next gen is probably just gonna be PC tbh since those two machines are practically medium-highend gaming pcs in a sense@@ManomiiFox
@@ManomiiFox I've never heard anyone ever say that lol. If I did I would simply laugh at them. Only people who would say that is console owners who don't own a gaming PC.
Man, I hate that they implemented the power supply unit inside the console. It would be sick if there was an external power supply mod. That would leave plenty of room to install a fan on the inside shell and maintain its stock design while keeping the power supply away from other components.
there is an external power supply mod using a pc power supply the other much simpler option is to use the power supply from the later fat ps3's that run at almost half the wattage then the original.
Every fat ps3 I have owned has had some sort of cooling mod. When you can drop the CPU and GPU temps by 10 degrees during gameplay, that is going to make a difference in the longevity of the consoles.
I went through the gauntlet of the YLOD with my launch 60gb. Paid to have it reballed with leaded solder, updated the power supply to one that drew less amps, upgraded the fan to one with more fins, reflowed it several times (even tried the MOBO oven method), copper shims between the heat sink and no matter what I did it would YLOD again after a few months.... everytime. I picked up a barely used one with original firmware several years ago and will be de-liding the IHS and applying liquid metal.
@@christophervanzetta Yup. Same. Long ago, I paid $300 for it used only for it to yellow-light on my after four months. One of my most regretful tech purchases I've had. Compared to a $20 untested original Xbox... that has been a reliable tank.
@@MetallicBlade How can you compare an 6th generation OG Xbox and a 7th generation early PS3? They aren't even in the same console generation. Of course the OG Xbox is more reliable because it's under less load with far less complexity. Mine was very reliable too until the disc drive quit. Notice how you almost never see any Xenon, Falcon or Zephyr Xbox 360's anymore? It's because they are all long gone from the Red Ring. Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 had issues at the start of the 7th console generation but the difference is that there are still launch model PS3's that work and you can buy. Sure it's not common, but try to find a working launch model Xenon 360. It's almost impossible because of the *over 50% failure rate.* The PS3 was a far more reliable console than the 360 throughout it's entire lifespan and that's just a fact. You just got unlucky.
Yeah the engineers put alot of time in but they also had a budget to get in under, u can make upgrades to the cooling systems of any console and make improvements from stock...
My two PS3 Fat (PS2 compatible) with back hole and delid + liquid metal perform at 50° with 38% fan speed. I have improve process with RE-LID after that (same material as original, thermal glue for RSX and thermal silicon for CELL). Thank NSC god for the delid tool. I have killed many consoles whitout. But now I can DELID in chain with no risk. I have remove the alimentation cap. The machines are overcloked too (OC dont up temperature because no more tension are added). The DELID operation need practice and good tool for be safe. You must train with dead console before try anything (one secret was too never retire the blade before the end of process and just turn whit it on corner). This is the benefit of two year work on the question.
like a 12 years ago after removing the bottom panel of the laptop, I cut a square in the plastic with a knife so that I could glue the fan to the laptop gpu area :D and it helped!!! :D I used to play games by placing my laptop on top of books, because the computer could no longer be placed straight, but I didn't pay attention to it because it was important to play without heating up the gpu and processor, because the cold air helped alot to coo the processor a bit also , in a word - the solution is proven here!! :D
I've repaired several of the backwards compatible PS3's It's crazy that overheating is enough to crack the solder. I've reballed two so far and both have worked afterwards. Still crazy though.
This may sound crazy to some but the best "upgrade" for a PS2 and PS3 is a CRT. Preferably one capable of both 240/480i and 480p. PS2 games look and play better on a CRT. You lose a ton of detail to poor upscaling on an HD flat-screen. Plus light gun compatibility. The PS3 looks and runs better on a 480p CRT than on a 1080p flat-screen. Most PS3 games max out at 720p and almost no displays are native 720p. So you lose performance and image quality to scaling. Plus... 720p maxes out the performance capability of a PS3 which causes overheating. In Time Crisis 4 you only get 30fps in 720p but 60fps in 480p. I use my tri-sync crt arcade monitor and I see details on PS3 games that are simply missing on my 4k Oled.
Despite all the time the engineers put into the PS3, they made a number of critical errors, the worst of them (in my opinion) being, they opted to use lead-free solder, which is inferior, and led to a LOT of launch PS3s dying, especially when used in a vertical orientation. The cooling system was also not designed very well. It could have been more effective, if sony hadn't prioritized manufacturing cost savings, over end product quality.
While yes engineers have made the air flow the way it is but only to appease a certain form factor design, board placement etc. The point is if the cooling is better than that means it will last longer. I would have definitely put a dust filter behind that fan and keep it the hell away from any water but really at the end of the day part of me would just want to replace the entire case for a custom one focusing on cooling optimization. Especially for those ps3's.
List of mod that actually work. -changing the 15 blade fan for the 19 blades fan. -delid of procesors. -external power supply. -holes only if you use external power supply. -changing the nec tokin capacitors. -new custom fan curve. Other stuff is a waste of time and money and it will put in danger your console especially that mother bending eraser mod.
So... you overpaid by $400-500 a phat YLOD phat is cheap, and the mod is what you need to fix that anyway in most cases. I guess there is some risk that the mod fails but.... 2nd try is only the same $400+ YLOD PS3 cost.
I just purchased a cecha01 on ebay for $127.25 said was parts due to no video signal but a video signal reset fixed it but I know a lot of ps3's claim backwards compatibility but it was only the A0 models that actually incorporated ps2 hardware inside the ps3 system that made the difference while the E0 models could only emulate this through software unfortunate really given that if you own a ps5 this would grant you 5 generations of just pure awesomeness that was and is the Playstation catalog
pro's also say that cooler hardware runs better and last longer.. People just need to know what they're doing before doing anything and also this way we swich form just being consumers to creators by making what we buy last longer.. Its probably easier to clean form dust also and switch a broken fan.
I still have fat 60 PS3 that’s still working without issue. The only thing I’ve done to it is keeping the vents clear of dust, haven’t even taken out the hard s drive. Played MWII on it before the rerelease & watch Blue rays when the Internet goes out.
A PS3 costing the same price as the digital PS5 your buying from scalpers it’s not worth buying anyways if it breaks less then a year cause you played PS2 games on it it’s a trash hardware
fan mod can help but not best to drill holes on the body case GameStop use to sell aux cooling fan for console call Intercooler but the best way to do it at home is that I use a house window a/c blow to a table fan aiming at the gaming console and aim another fan next to the console to keep it cool.
These old backwards compatible ps3 consoles tend to run very hot. They also are prone to the red light of death. They can be fixed if that happens by just baking the motherboard at 400° for 15 mins. Or you can have a Profesional reinstall the cpu, but that is very costly and time consuming.
I am not intimately familiar with the cooling design of the fat PS3. If they tend to overheat then this might be a good solution. Quality wise it doesn't seem that bad for a homemade mod.
I miss the letters, tea and origami you get from Japanese Ebay sellers. I've even received a letter in proper Finnish. Once you get into importing from Japan, you'll start using better services, and proxies, and they obviously don't send tea and origami to locals hehe.
I have a similar fan mod i did to my ps3 slim even wired the speed control into the ps3's original fan control. Been using it for years and its still going strong 💪and yeah u goto repaste while ur in there.
I'm not trying to toot my own horn, I'm just a simple guy that has built computers and tinkered his whole life. WAY back in the day when I bought the OG PlayStation 1, it wasn't but a couple of months when it wouldn't play, it kept locking up and I knew it was because it was over heating. I put a fan on the bottom and ran the PS-1 on it's side and it played perfect for a very long time. I like to think I was one of the first to add a cooling fan even though that is doubtful.
Engineers are stuck with size and a price point, not always the best cooling solution. My new 4090 is 4 slots thick with a massive heat sink and 3 fans on it. The size of that heatsink is a good cooling solution.
Not sure if the fan actually helps. The ps3 was designed with airflow moving from one part of the unit out through the other. Adding a fan disrupts this airflow, the fan is also sitting half way on top of the powersupply. I believe the PS on these console generations had no holes on the top, this just makaes the efficiency of the fan worse.
The PS3s that failed had defective substrate cheemistry IIRC. As long as they're kept below 70 degrees C, they should not fail. This implies some method of delid on Cell or the fan will be very loud on most consoles one manages to get now.
The only way to prevent this model of PS3 from YLOD is to do Frankenstein mode. Basically is swapping processor from PS3 super slim to 60GB model. This is lowering down temps to acceptable area. Also is good to change NEC/TOLKIN if you are doing processor swap, they are also responsible partially for YLOD. Not cheep but if you want to have a rare model that will last much longer I think is worth it.
Delid of the processor is the only solution. The cell processor normal temp is 70c. The syscon runs quiters alternating the fan speeds between the min 20% and 25% and temps ranging 68c-72c.
this makes it seem like most ps3 are just overheating constantly or at least at 90 to 100 celcius constantly, makes the death of my ps3 slim almost expected
Ya they messed up the air pressure its positive now. Thats why ur stock one is sucking in air from the side vent and the modded one is blowing it out through there. More air flow means quicker dust build-up also. But its region locked so it has no purpose as a backwards compatible. Should be significantly cheaper than that.
engineers are putting countless hours to cut as many corners as possible and still achieve a good enough product. demonstration is with PS5: now the AIO coolers are pretty much standardized but rather than using one thy used liquid metal as thermal compound.
That mad won't help. The problem is the sh*tty tin solder they used at the time. It will heat up, cool off until the solder will develop hairline cracks and your console will fail.
Would you buy a custom PS3 like this?
Pretty sweet word of the day.
yes! i'd like to have Other OS for that price though
Honestly, I would. Might look a bit tacky on the outside but it was executed pretty nicely inside.
If I had money
No
people do this, when you can just install cfw and make the normal fan run faster then 20% like sony does
also, sony limits the fan of the ps3 so it doesnt make that much noise, if you remove that limit or change it the ps3 will sound like a jet but wont overheat
i think it lowers the lifespan of the fan, i get my 2006 ps3 running on 39% and my cbu always at 66%
@@byee I mean, using the fan lowers its lifespan but I prefer to have a working console that I need to replace a fan then a dead rsx that is much harder to replace
@@shy_doge i agree
Or… just take it apart and do custom fans. EZPZ.
4:14 real funny prank, thought my internet died.
This channel has become a favorite, predictable, easy to watch, interesting and relaxing. Good stuff my man
Thanks for watching! Anything specific you’d like to see in the future?
@@jrob0021 A Halo 3 360 Edition? Also love your videos btw! Hope to see what brings the Hampton Haul series!
Agreed. I just discovered this channel about a month and a half ago, and I'm loving the content.
@@jrob0021 limited edition Xbox Ones with logos of Russian FCs on them (4 types of them were made 5 years ago)
Not really! I've always been curious on how the first gen
ps3s and 360s handled games like GTA V and the last games of that era. But thats about it, keep up the great work!
Me and my two youngest sons love watching your videos and seeing all the different kinds of systems you get. Plus u do a great job of showing people how to fix most of the common problems they have. Keep up the great work.
In the OLD ps3s when cooling solution and thermal paste replacement doesnt work anymore, u have to go underneath the IHS and replace the thermal paste there. It gets extremely dry in there overtime and so u need to replace thermal paste underneath ihs
One day I’ll attempt a delid, just don’t feel like breaking a console right now lol
@@jrob0021 its not too risky, u will need to use the correct materials to do the delid. I cant remember what people exactly used but i believe it was a flat utensil for dentist that is lengthy enough to cut through the adhesive.
I am not entirely sure tho as it has been a long time. learnt the tip from NSC modz on youtube i think.
@@helloimuzumakikira1 i know some people use dental floss, others use palette knives
NSC used to also sell these knives that he apparently had make specifically for delidding but i'm not sure if he still does
I should delid my fat PAL 80GB console as it definitely has dried paste under its CPU IHS. Just too scared to do that even though I've delidded some PC CPUs before.
practice on dead board first lol, i broke about 5 ps3s doing this for the first time 😭
@@jrob0021
I can't believe you stumbled across my reddit post! ("Modded my CECHB01 with improved cooling!) It was my first ever hardware mod on a console so not the cleanest job. Halfway through drilling the holes I realized if I had a firmer grip on the shell it wouldnt cause the plastic to rupture out and would make cleaner holes. I was following Mystics "Ultimate PS3" guide in improving the cooling on my console. I forgot I even made that post 🤣
Maybe I'm just weird, but if I were the one modding the fan onto the outside of that case, I would've 3D printed a shroud to fit between the fan and case to close the gap 😂
Yeah that woulda been nice haha
back in the days (ps3 era) 3D printing wasn't a thing
yes because everybody has a 3d printer laying around.
people work with what they had and the guy had some random parts that may help.
alot of places dont have air conditioning and being a pc owner for over 20 years. cooling can make or break a system.
and keeping max temps down even just a little can really make the life of the parts alot longer.
also not everyone is skilled with tools or has tools or a workshop to do this kind of stuff.
i recently did a crazy idea like this with my computer and couldnt be happier.
i have a 240mm radiator that didnt fit inside of the case my 120mm aio died. so i strapped the 240mm on the back on the outside for a while to work till i planned my mod.
finally had enough of it looking terrible and i used the side panel without the window to mount the radiator. now my pc looks like some crazy scifi heat vent and it pulls air out of the case to cool but the heat is all outside of the case and cant get back in.
i have modded things for me and for friends for years like this and its always worth it.
with a crazy enough mind and enough random materials laying around you can actually use your pc for a space heater in the winter and in the summer send all of the hot air out of your room or your house whichever is easier.
@@chehystpewpur4754 just put it in a fridge?
@@SoyAntonioGaming yeah ha ha very funny. your computer or console would short in a few mins moisture bro. go try it.
i used to put my pc in my window when it was below zero outside just to get the highest possible score on benchmarks when i got new hardware. even in short spurts it would get moisture all over anything warm.
Drilling holes in the PS3 isn't ideal. Usually what it does is redirect cooling from the PSU to the CPU and GPU giving the illusion that the console is cooler when in reality the PSU is most likely going to overheat. I guess the fan on top is to somehow compensate for this even though it would've been better to leave the shell as-is
I don't think that's true, because the fan blades are situated to move the air in the same directions whether you mod the case or not, just with better air intake.
If these consoles were were airtight, vacuum sealed, etc, then I'd agree you would have major problems, but they're simply not.
@@Scott-M1One thing is when you add an air intake area it can redirect or slow down the internal air flow if done incorrectly like keeping the side off a computer case.
I love the sound effects :)
I dont know if youve heard of the frankenstein mod but it involves swapping the gpu from a later slim to these bc models. ComputerBooter does an awesome job for this service, and i think a video on one would be awesome!
Booter did mine!
@@Kief_ same with mine haha! was lucky to get a new old stock chip in it last year
@@BlakeBowes sweet! Did you go 40 or 65nm? I get all my games from Booter now as well.
About how much does that service cost?
@@devynmac7481 650. Includes a ton of work for the cost tbh. Well freakin worth it
reverse the fan so it blows in and out the built in vents. Will probably work better.
4:17 i thought I was having a stroke for a sec there
I wonder what other components could fail, Sony did thermodynamics too like you said so hopefully it lasts. 500 GB is real nice though.
If you'd flip the top fan around, it will even cool better, now they are creating positive air pressure in the console there for the air will be pushed our before its been used to optimal cooling
Jacob the reason for the ground wire is to wire it to a ground terminal in japan as some outlets are not 3 prong
Gotcha thanks! 👍
noctua does make a foam that fits between fans and your radiator ,devices etc. it makes a good seal and would improve the fans ability greatly. i think the system is 10 dollars for 10 pieces all of a different thickness.
That's a good pro tip
Buy a super slim and a ps2 slim and you dont need an ugly fan and it will be cheaper than a Phat and much much much more reliable.
These hardware mods are not necessary. Old Phat PS3s were suffering from YLOD, because Sony screwed up the fan curve in the SYSCON - the fan was not spinning with enough speed to dissipate huge amount of heat which CELL/RSX are producing. To prevent from YLOD, all you have to do is to CFW it and increase the fan speed that the CELL/RSX (mainly RSX which is not heat resistant) are not reaching 70-80 C degrees.
Yea I know
PS3 ylod is the same fuckup as xbox rrod: engineers which did not take the classes necessary to know that the design will fail due to improper materials... designed chips for the fab (tsmc) which produced that green assembly with a chip glued&soldered on
even with high fan speeds that crappy old gpu (or your fan) will fail at some point, only solution is to put in a slim gpu from a donor and modify the console accordingly (was also sonys method)
Long term, it should last longer being a little cooler. Your exhaust is still the same so I'm not sure the pc components are any cooler but it's own cooling solution isn't working as hard. So at the very least, that should hold up better.
Dude! Thats the original 60gb. That and the original 80gb were the best
Any mod that destroys the original airflow channeling is detrimental to the consoles life span
This is the true answer
Basically all those custom fans are useless in my opinion because Sony in 2006 showed the airflow demo of the ps3 and with that I mean that the Original cooling system was the best possible
yeah not by far was the stock the best, this blows the cooling of the stock setup away...
4:14 LMFAO
well i have a moded cooling fan ps3 fat just like that. it works pretty well. the only thing that someone to remember is have a once a week or month maintenance of the console depending of how long they usually played.. because of the moded fan, there is much more high chances that the inside of the console will absorb more dirt from the air. maintaining this kind of console will only need a portable vacuum
I still have my old ps3,works fine all these years so overheating doesnt seem to be a problem.
4:16 bro lagged
My conclusion here is that your achieving a higher volume of airflow movement, therefore better thermals, i think a lot of it has to do with the added holes. Well because your fan is a semi fixed rate so only 2 ways to move more fluid increase pressue or increase volume, i think they went with volume, judging from the readings at the axhaust ports (because the temps are similar so i would conclude that airflow is moving at a very similar rate so the air still get heated to same temp you just have more of it to carry more heat, seems like simple fixes sony engineers should have figured out.
Lowkey looks like a DJ turn table
As a PC enthusiast I instantly understood the airflow dynamics of this mod.
for the last few decades of people saying console is beating pc gaming and that the pc gaming would disappear eventually, how the turn table when you realize console gaming is being converged/assimulated into pc hardware industry. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
nah fr LOL I told people when the Ps5/Series X came out bro next gen is probably just gonna be PC tbh since those two machines are practically medium-highend gaming pcs in a sense@@ManomiiFox
@@ManomiiFox I've never heard anyone ever say that lol. If I did I would simply laugh at them. Only people who would say that is console owners who don't own a gaming PC.
the best cooling option = no case shell
First love your videos and loved the Texas load series keep up the work
Drilling holes under Fat PS3 DOES help a lot because its airflow was design poorly. It help mines for sure!
i have a non modded PS3 i can play 1-3ps games its first model 4 usb ports.
The ps3 design still holds up very well I miss that generation
Fr fr
4:19 you glitched man haha
Man, I hate that they implemented the power supply unit inside the console. It would be sick if there was an external power supply mod. That would leave plenty of room to install a fan on the inside shell and maintain its stock design while keeping the power supply away from other components.
External power supply could definitely be interesting here 🧐
there is an external power supply mod using a pc power supply the other much simpler option is to use the power supply from the later fat ps3's that run at almost half the wattage then the original.
Every fat ps3 I have owned has had some sort of cooling mod. When you can drop the CPU and GPU temps by 10 degrees during gameplay, that is going to make a difference in the longevity of the consoles.
I went through the gauntlet of the YLOD with my launch 60gb. Paid to have it reballed with leaded solder, updated the power supply to one that drew less amps, upgraded the fan to one with more fins, reflowed it several times (even tried the MOBO oven method), copper shims between the heat sink and no matter what I did it would YLOD again after a few months.... everytime. I picked up a barely used one with original firmware several years ago and will be de-liding the IHS and applying liquid metal.
That poor PS3.
Best PS3 is the one that's backward compatible, but uses the newer 45nm CPU that won't go caput on you.
Yes the frankenstien modded ps3s are the best of the best much better then this pos mod.
The 45nm CPU is only in Slim and Super Slim models, and none of those are Backwards Compatible.
@@StageRight123 There was guy that made a deep dive from long research on the topic of ps3 failures and he transferred the 45nm in the fat old models.
I'd buy it, but it has me itching to DIY my own, and expand on their idea.
The backwards compatible PS3 was prone to the yellow light of death, would be interesting to know if this fan mod prolongs that issues.
That’s exactly how my 60GB CHECA died. It’s still in my closet collecting dust
@@christophervanzetta Yup. Same.
Long ago, I paid $300 for it used only for it to yellow-light on my after four months. One of my most regretful tech purchases I've had.
Compared to a $20 untested original Xbox... that has been a reliable tank.
@@MetallicBlade How can you compare an 6th generation OG Xbox and a 7th generation early PS3? They aren't even in the same console generation. Of course the OG Xbox is more reliable because it's under less load with far less complexity. Mine was very reliable too until the disc drive quit. Notice how you almost never see any Xenon, Falcon or Zephyr Xbox 360's anymore? It's because they are all long gone from the Red Ring. Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 had issues at the start of the 7th console generation but the difference is that there are still launch model PS3's that work and you can buy. Sure it's not common, but try to find a working launch model Xenon 360. It's almost impossible because of the *over 50% failure rate.* The PS3 was a far more reliable console than the 360 throughout it's entire lifespan and that's just a fact. You just got unlucky.
A Frankie from Computer Booter is the ULTIMATE ps3.
My dumbass thought he got sent an empty box forgetting he already took it out 😂😂
No you’re right lol, the console was packaged outside of the box because it didn’t fit in the box
Ultimate ps3 would be a cecha01 backwards compatible with a Frankenstein 40nm rsx chip swap being done
Yeah the engineers put alot of time in but they also had a budget to get in under, u can make upgrades to the cooling systems of any console and make improvements from stock...
My two PS3 Fat (PS2 compatible) with back hole and delid + liquid metal perform at 50° with 38% fan speed. I have improve process with RE-LID after that (same material as original, thermal glue for RSX and thermal silicon for CELL). Thank NSC god for the delid tool. I have killed many consoles whitout. But now I can DELID in chain with no risk. I have remove the alimentation cap. The machines are overcloked too (OC dont up temperature because no more tension are added). The DELID operation need practice and good tool for be safe. You must train with dead console before try anything (one secret was too never retire the blade before the end of process and just turn whit it on corner). This is the benefit of two year work on the question.
like a 12 years ago after removing the bottom panel of the laptop, I cut a square in the plastic with a knife so that I could glue the fan to the laptop gpu area :D and it helped!!! :D I used to play games by placing my laptop on top of books, because the computer could no longer be placed straight, but I didn't pay attention to it because it was important to play without heating up the gpu and processor, because the cold air helped alot to coo the processor a bit also , in a word - the solution is proven here!! :D
Better than my PS3 :(
Sad how my PS3 and my family's PS3 is not backwards compatible.
Just sell em then and buy a backwards compatible PS3 ;)
@@amazingamazigh1538 I have made progress on that thing since 2012
Jacob feel like someone who would work at a pawn shop I like him.
I guess I’ll take that as a compliment? Haha
@@jrob0021you're pretty observant and knowledge, i think that's what they were trying to say haha
Do you know where to get modded working PS Vitas in Europe? I really want one to play Minecraft at school.
Do it by your self it’s not that hard just watch a RUclips video.
I heard they have some in the Eifel tower
@@Mutter_Futtermaybe he doesnt have the propper stuff to mod one.
Maybe you should be paying attention to class while in school.
@@StageRight123 I meant in the free time not in classes🤦♂️
I've repaired several of the backwards compatible PS3's It's crazy that overheating is enough to crack the solder. I've reballed two so far and both have worked afterwards. Still crazy though.
This may sound crazy to some but the best "upgrade" for a PS2 and PS3 is a CRT. Preferably one capable of both 240/480i and 480p.
PS2 games look and play better on a CRT. You lose a ton of detail to poor upscaling on an HD flat-screen. Plus light gun compatibility.
The PS3 looks and runs better on a 480p CRT than on a 1080p flat-screen. Most PS3 games max out at 720p and almost no displays are native 720p. So you lose performance and image quality to scaling.
Plus... 720p maxes out the performance capability of a PS3 which causes overheating. In Time Crisis 4 you only get 30fps in 720p but 60fps in 480p.
I use my tri-sync crt arcade monitor and I see details on PS3 games that are simply missing on my 4k Oled.
The fan on top looks terrible. Having RGB on everything is not my thing.
I used to remove the power supply metal top too back in 2007 when I used to repair these. Glad smart minds think alike
Despite all the time the engineers put into the PS3, they made a number of critical errors, the worst of them (in my opinion) being, they opted to use lead-free solder, which is inferior, and led to a LOT of launch PS3s dying, especially when used in a vertical orientation. The cooling system was also not designed very well. It could have been more effective, if sony hadn't prioritized manufacturing cost savings, over end product quality.
Probably done on purpose
While yes engineers have made the air flow the way it is but only to appease a certain form factor design, board placement etc. The point is if the cooling is better than that means it will last longer. I would have definitely put a dust filter behind that fan and keep it the hell away from any water but really at the end of the day part of me would just want to replace the entire case for a custom one focusing on cooling optimization. Especially for those ps3's.
List of mod that actually work.
-changing the 15 blade fan for the 19 blades fan.
-delid of procesors.
-external power supply.
-holes only if you use external power supply.
-changing the nec tokin capacitors.
-new custom fan curve.
Other stuff is a waste of time and money and it will put in danger your console especially that mother bending eraser mod.
This mod is pretty clean, and actually pretty well done at the end. Price is really fair
if cutting a hole in the top of a PS3 is a clean mod to you, I don't even want to know what your idea of a bad mod is 🤣
@@busterscrugsI mean, have you seen other mods? This is cleaner than your average mod
I bought a Frankenstein PS3 for a little over $1000. I’ve been very happy with it. I can play The Last of Us without the fan going crazy.
So... you overpaid by $400-500 a phat YLOD phat is cheap, and the mod is what you need to fix that anyway in most cases. I guess there is some risk that the mod fails but.... 2nd try is only the same $400+ YLOD PS3 cost.
I just purchased a cecha01 on ebay for $127.25 said was parts due to no video signal but a video signal reset fixed it but I know a lot of ps3's claim backwards compatibility but it was only the A0 models that actually incorporated ps2 hardware inside the ps3 system that made the difference while the E0 models could only emulate this through software unfortunate really given that if you own a ps5 this would grant you 5 generations of just pure awesomeness that was and is the Playstation catalog
pro's also say that cooler hardware runs better and last longer.. People just need to know what they're doing before doing anything and also this way we swich form just being consumers to creators by making what we buy last longer.. Its probably easier to clean form dust also and switch a broken fan.
The holes below change the aitflow and restric air to the power supply. That is why they put another fan on top.
This is amazing very awesome console
You'd want more airflow going with the natural designed airflow, intake and outtake, not holes on the back or side.
That pause after the language change made me think my internet went out
I still have fat 60 PS3 that’s still working without issue. The only thing I’ve done to it is keeping the vents clear of dust, haven’t even taken out the hard s drive. Played MWII on it before the rerelease & watch Blue rays when the Internet goes out.
A PS3 costing the same price as the digital PS5 your buying from scalpers it’s not worth buying anyways if it breaks less then a year cause you played PS2 games on it it’s a trash hardware
Make holes in case is good for cpu and gpu but is bad for others electrical components,the airflow from the case will be changed.
fan mod can help but not best to drill holes on the body case GameStop use to sell aux cooling fan for console call Intercooler but the best way to do it at home is that I use a house window a/c blow to a table fan aiming at the gaming console and aim another fan next to the console to keep it cool.
These old backwards compatible ps3 consoles tend to run very hot. They also are prone to the red light of death. They can be fixed if that happens by just baking the motherboard at 400° for 15 mins. Or you can have a Profesional reinstall the cpu, but that is very costly and time consuming.
I am not intimately familiar with the cooling design of the fat PS3. If they tend to overheat then this might be a good solution.
Quality wise it doesn't seem that bad for a homemade mod.
Trust me any one that has a fat PS3 is familiar lol. Thing turns int a Jet engine running Skyrim and the like.
I miss the letters, tea and origami you get from Japanese Ebay sellers. I've even received a letter in proper Finnish. Once you get into importing from Japan, you'll start using better services, and proxies, and they obviously don't send tea and origami to locals hehe.
I have a similar fan mod i did to my ps3 slim even wired the speed control into the ps3's original fan control. Been using it for years and its still going strong 💪and yeah u goto repaste while ur in there.
I'm not trying to toot my own horn, I'm just a simple guy that has built computers and tinkered his whole life. WAY back in the day when I bought the OG PlayStation 1, it wasn't but a couple of months when it wouldn't play, it kept locking up and I knew it was because it was over heating. I put a fan on the bottom and ran the PS-1 on it's side and it played perfect for a very long time. I like to think I was one of the first to add a cooling fan even though that is doubtful.
Engineers are stuck with size and a price point, not always the best cooling solution. My new 4090 is 4 slots thick with a massive heat sink and 3 fans on it. The size of that heatsink is a good cooling solution.
Not sure if the fan actually helps. The ps3 was designed with airflow moving from one part of the unit out through the other. Adding a fan disrupts this airflow, the fan is also sitting half way on top of the powersupply. I believe the PS on these console generations had no holes on the top, this just makaes the efficiency of the fan worse.
Yea people are putting custom fans in Xbox 360's as well. I bought one from a modder and the fan is soo loud sounds like a jet engine I hate it.
If you saw my 40 year old body ,you would probably say it is in "Pristine condition"😂
Not the OG controller included with the 60gb, I have a day one European 60gb with the infamous Sixaxis (without rumble feature).
The PS3s that failed had defective substrate cheemistry IIRC. As long as they're kept below 70 degrees C, they should not fail.
This implies some method of delid on Cell or the fan will be very loud on most consoles one manages to get now.
Some of the frankenstein mod guys list delidding and replacing TIM as mandatory part of the mod required for warranty.
I wonder if it's lucky or expected that the regular fans didn't get spun the wrong way by the aftermarket ones.
That fan is for pulling the smoke out as cooking your meat in the Grill station 3.
its hard to clean the dust out of it and it will burn up board if you dont clean it regularly.
The power supply isn't exposed when the fan is covering it.
Yes it is lol, there are pretty massive gaps around the fan
The only way to prevent this model of PS3 from YLOD is to do Frankenstein mode. Basically is swapping processor from PS3 super slim to 60GB model. This is lowering down temps to acceptable area. Also is good to change NEC/TOLKIN if you are doing processor swap, they are also responsible partially for YLOD. Not cheep but if you want to have a rare model that will last much longer I think is worth it.
Delid of the processor is the only solution. The cell processor normal temp is 70c. The syscon runs quiters alternating the fan speeds between the min 20% and 25% and temps ranging 68c-72c.
this makes it seem like most ps3 are just overheating constantly or at least at 90 to 100 celcius constantly, makes the death of my ps3 slim almost expected
Ya they messed up the air pressure its positive now. Thats why ur stock one is sucking in air from the side vent and the modded one is blowing it out through there. More air flow means quicker dust build-up also. But its region locked so it has no purpose as a backwards compatible. Should be significantly cheaper than that.
Reason you need the extra airflow it's because when you turn the 3D on are heats up a lot more and crashes
That is actually a good idea. The old ps3's were always getting hot and breaking.
engineers are putting countless hours to cut as many corners as possible and still achieve a good enough product.
demonstration is with PS5: now the AIO coolers are pretty much standardized but rather than using one thy used liquid metal as thermal compound.
Admit it, yall thought your phone froze for second 😂
One problem is if you have ever worked on cars engineers screw up all the time.
Ultimate console starter pack:
External fans
Ram thing
Ssd
Other bs
That mad won't help. The problem is the sh*tty tin solder they used at the time. It will heat up, cool off until the solder will develop hairline cracks and your console will fail.
4:16 there is a frozen video in couple of seconds
That's just his brain lagging in real time. Happens to the best of us.
I actually have a Japanese PlayStation 3.
I always run mine at max and wear headphones. I rather replace a fan first than anything else.
loved the video bro also you like like your on cloud nine lmao unless you look like jim breuer