So when Alita: Battle Angel manipulates its audience it's "smart" and "something to learn from" But when I manipulate my friends into liking me it's "wrongful" and "immoral"
Bruh I was thinking the same thing! Why do people hate me but not Aliya? Wait, I think I figured it out. Time to go rip out someone else's eyes so I can get bigger ones. That'll fix it!
Imma whoosh this. The smart and something to learn from part is for people who want to create a story or a plot for a movie to make it seem good to the eyes and emotion of the audiences, and as it is obvious, a movie is and always a fiction (in some exceptions of course). But in social interactions, being manipulative is always degraded and derogatory because the success of social interactions *IDEALLY* succeeds in sincerity and honesty, not theatrics. It's basically the same thing with being uncomfortable in some manner to a person who is a fake or an overly toxic and dramatic person.
Well, in Hugo's defense, if the superhuman dude chasing you just cut your buddy in half in front of your face, you'd call your superhuman girlfriend for help too.
isnt he a cyborg too? I'd rather someone be inspired BY a friend to fight that ruin them by sticking yourself into their life so stupidly and selfishly
duberdum > yea + where does the 'no plot.. or not till the end' criticism fit in a show not tell context of a protagonist having ZERO memory to begin with.. Well, maybe he'll gain some more respect after discovering just how much research and work Kishiro put into learning Christian beliefs and European philosophies.. which the complete story is as nearly entwined in as (Edt.)is the original Star Wars trilogies
Honestly I REALLY liked this film. It didn’t make the most sense, but the atmosphere was INCREDIBLY IMMERSIVE. I hope Alita gets herself a sequel to continue being explored.
Got that right also I hope the sequel is well as the first film but goes all out with the story and her tryna go up against said villain in the upper city
I like your comment , I really do ! But I hope you realize that that was just a computer image manipulation. And, it was just a movie , not real... so she did not "literally" open anything ... 🤪 🤖 🐂💩
@@krixpop I like your comment, I really do, But I hope you realize that literally informally define to be used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true ; used to emphasize what your saying ; simply or just. Example "I was literally blown away by the response I got by this asshole on youtube". "I literally did not check the dictionary definition on literally before I sarcastically demeans what other people literally comment on a literal movie about literal cgi animation"
@@savintcrew76 I stand corrected, then... I liked your comment (lol ) because the idea of a woman giving her heart to you / me / any man, is extraordinary ...As of late It happens only in movies/books/etc. The message behind her giving her heart brought me to tears, when I first saw the movie... I belong to an older age group; I was raptured by insane love and received back the love I gave. I had my share! I just fear, that love (romantic love, not sexual love) is experienced more and more just on screen, and less in flesh. And misused in promiscuous relations... Remember? "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs" We lost that kind of love, didn't we?
@@rodrigobogado8756 If the brain is intact, it is totally possible in a world of cybernetic enhancements. That dog looked too small for the cutters though, probably ripped to shreds.
Basically, Alita reacts like a child. Everything is new and exciting to her. And we as empathic beings mirror her emotions. This is essentialy what makes parenting enjoyable. Add huge eyes to really drive the manipulation home.
She's more like a 300 year old warrier who forgot everything and is relearning life. She knows that she used to be something great, but she has to try really hard to get that all back. If you look closely at her actions, she's initially empathetic and cheerful, but quickly turns sassy and cold. Although she initially saved the dog in the beginning, she didn't even flinch later when Grewishka killed it after she regained part of her memory. She also began to kill mercilesly without any hesitation or remorse.
I think the title of the video is just a different way of looking at it, also it attracts more attention. Of course movies "manipulates" its audience. Those that fail to do so get dropped by the audience.
@@tja9212 My second point still stands. They had to make it full of cliches because the people overseeing the project wouldn't let them release it because it's "too different from the standard formula and it wouldn't work"
Hugo does come across as a whiner in the context of his own character, but within the themes of the story, his weaknesses and negative qualities are there to expose Alita to the flaws of the human condition. He breaks her absolute faith that good guys are good and bad guys are bad, following the fake-out along the same lines with Ido earlier. The bad parts of Hugo's identity, or rather the consequences thereof, then become another obstacle for Alita to challenge and overcome. The twist is that she doesn't succeed in doing so, because it's out of her control. Hugo's own failings condemn and destroy him, and she can't do anything about it in the end.
Very true, and that failure, in the 9 volume manga, will go on to shape her life, her actions, and what happens after as she goes searching for answers. Initially small scale ones, and then larger world altering ones once her entire world is shifted again later in the series.
But....Hugo says " thank you for saving me".. and dies. What is that? Is there a level of saved that is greater than the death you're about to die? Or what is the point of being "saved" and then dying? Did alita impart something to Hugo that she didn't know?
@@1bengrubb Before Alita showed up, Hugo was participating in the gang, hurting people, and stealing body parts. Their relationship caused him to have second thoughts and do the right thing by quitting. She saved him on a moral level by being a good person and influencing him to be better. It just wasn't enough to prevent everything he'd done from catching up to him.
@@1bengrubb many people feel that way. It's a difference between dying happy and feeling like your life mattered. Or dying unhappy and feeling like your life was pointless.
The reason Alita's character works is because she's adorably innocent but also a battle-hardened warrior, the film combines this so well that you're enticed the whole duration! I remade the Alita trailer here, enjoy! - ruclips.net/video/Xz1ZJK8Ap0c/видео.html
Patrick Upson Yeah but I also think that the fans have to be willing to except certain changes like they do with comic book movies or book adaptations. Some things won’t work as well in movie form but that doesn’t mean the directors should change things just for the sake of change. So like you said they have to respect the source material
@@m.c4847 I get that it can't be 1:1 and somethings just don't translate well from animation to live action, but you look at Avatar Air Bender, Dragon Ball, Ghost In the Shell (to name a few off the top of my head) and they were awful. Awful specifically because they threw the story/world development/relationships out the window. All they kept were the characters names and a very rough idea of the plot, which they obviously didn't understand going into the movie. Alita was the first adaptation I saw that mostly held to the main story. There were some places it could have been improved, but they did a pretty great job overall. IMHO of course.
@@GodotWorld Having the same story regurgitated to you (because that's what adaptations are--especially in a 2 hour or less time slot), is not what you want. It's not what anyone wants. Because you'll never say "It's a good movie, go out and see it"--You'll recall all the moments left out comparably and be overwhelmed that your nostalgia wasn't enlivened. Most "fans" (some are, some only claim to be for social credibility...an issue widespread these days) expects even most nuances to be preserved, and that the worth of material is how well it invokes the nostalgia of what you fell in love with (as if anyone truly remembers the fine details of what appealed to them, *years* ago). That. Is. Impossible. Any success will include fans and general audiences alike. And so...everyone loses. The newcomers don't know to understand any emphatic moments because they're nudging the fans, and the "fans" dislike the film because there isn't any or much of the same depthful moments one has to analyze and ponder (the general audience likes things to be transparent--they're not the type to scour the web for all sequels/manga/wikis and cross-reference, or in-fact, think about an action longer than it's own duration). Newcomers are generally a fickle sort, how long a filmmaker can captivate them is volatile at best. Embedding technique/manipulations are tenuously challenging unless such things are compartmentalized already in the story (Alita). It's a balance who's golden ratio has yet to be understood; while it is so, these franchises *die* to improve the next. Do you think any filmmaker is going to 'reboot' a franchise that's already tried and failed, with chance of another adaptation of a different sort decreasing each time? Even the most faithful creators need incentive to at worst break even; one will not destroy themselves to cater to perceivably dead breeds. Ghost in the Shell - Live Action, will never receive a deserved sequel--yes it does deserve. The setting [of visuals/places/world] was flawlessly executed, the story itself was slotted well enough--The movie sufficed as a good prologue and awakened what Ghost in the Shell - Live Action could be--how Motoko got her first cybernetic body, her past self (parentage included), her fight to be free of forceful encoded tethers, her transition into her occupation. Such things were never revealed more than a few minutes of scattershot flashbacks in source. Though all such hopes to continue are voided for a time no being should wait for, had it been well received an even better movie awaited. It is much better to pleasantly critique a film of worth, at least until it's window closes. Of course, filmmakers can and likely will learn given the chance--they adapt themselves after all. Instead of such a chance it was dubbed awful even by "fans" hopeful to see more, and even over hypocritical issues such as "fans" wanting a japanese actress in place for Motoko...who, in source, uses foreign American bodies--even the intellectual proprietor's [of Ghost in the Shell] praise towards the movie, it went unnoticed and did not provide even a hint to such people. And still such hypocrisy of opinion and reasoning born of selfish internalized views are present even now, but I suppose those same masses control every success and failure--cinematic entertainment is no different. Oh I grow *weary* of this, just as you are of reading it. Of my favorite things in life being ended before others can glean their significance, including their futures. Just. Please...be mindful of the future, of consequence, before you act or speak. Especially when such material is more tolerable than what you're willing to accept. Alice's Resident Evil film series is a best example of when material can be given a chance. Though, for material like Mass Effect Andromeda, it was about as tolerable as people think it is. Though for Final Fantasy 12...a hidden gem that was under 12 ft. of expectations in pertinence to an audience who had yet to find the handles in front of them, only due to contortions of feature; instead, we get -2 and -3 of a title of lagging value but better reception...Final Fantasy 13.
Well he respects the source material. Not perfectly but good enough for me who bought the manga. Still for someone who read the manga recently the movie has alot of flaws especially in the character(not Alita) and story department. Im not trying to shit on the movie here dont get me wrong but i think the manga is still alot better. Its my Nr.2 favorite manga of all time so im bias here but as such a big fan of the original i still really like this movie i even watched it 2 times in cinema^^ And its way better the GitS life action movie because in this movie you have Alita and the world from the manga. In GitS well i dont know who that woman is but its not the Major and its not the same place it. And i dont blame ScarJo for it because she looks like the Major...ups i gone totaly off topic lol
Can we also talk about Dr. Ido? He isn't that much supportive at first but you can clearly see how much he cares for Alita. That kiss in the forehead when she's about to join the motorball and the concern of her new body had my heart melting. And I'm pretty sure Dr. Ido had and internal scream when Alita called him father.
I disagree that this film doesn't have a plot. The plot is all about Alita discovering herself and trying to interact with a world she remembers nothing about. Just because there's no big external fight between hero and villain does not mean there's no plot.
Zero Flak it has little narrative, but yes has a plot... normies are expecting the narrative dictated by antagonist conflict to run the plot and that’s fair; but the character’s identity and self discovery are what’s running the plot
Manipulation? Please it's getting a sequel because James Cameron did everything right that should have been done for a Live Action Adaptation of the Anime and Manga version. The Story was pretty much already there, they just had to make it live action. Not to mention the original Anime was a Movie so it wasn't hard to transfer that story to big screen. Alita was successful for literally being the first Live Action Adaptation done right.
Kakachi07 i was also thinking about this while watching this video. this isn’t no normal story some people might see this movie as it has no plot or no story telling. well they are wrong. they are just following the story. imagine this in your mind. this is the beginning of a book at the beginning of a book it will introduce the characters introduce the relationships with the characters the environment the set and then at the end of the chapter it gives you a hint of what chapter two has
@Xclav i know that this an old comment but I just want to say that edge of tomorow and alita are completely different type of live action adaptation. I don't consider edge of tomorow as a anime adaptation cause it only took the core concept of all you need is kill which I think is a pretty good decision.
When Filmento said, the viewer has fallen in love with Alita so head over heals that they forget about all of the problems the movie had, I thought to myself: That´s gonna be my new life goal! Make me fall in love with myself, so no matter which problems I´ll have to face, my life will be a great one!
@@brando3342 There's a difference between wanting to protect something and wanting to hump it. Puppies are cute because of their childish features and actions, even adults love puppies, but there's no sexual agenda there. It's the same for Alita. She's the daughter we wish we all had.
This is a fine essay on creating a positive emotional connection between a character and the audience. However you said that the movie lacked a plot. I think you just missed the plot: the plot isn't a Hero's Journey or even good vs. evil like most other SciFi. Alita's story isn't like Jason Bourne or "The Long Kiss Goodnight" or the thousands of other action hero stories where amnesia is used as a mystery both to add conflict to the hero and introduce the audience to the world as the character discovers it. Alita's amnesia is a device to allow her to have a Bildungsroman plot set in an action hero story. The plot is Alita's navigation from naive child to emotionally mature adult. It isn't about conflict with Nova or Zapan or Vector or Grewishka, it's about Alita's conflict with Ido and Hugo. Ido plays the father figure whom Alita needs to overcome to become an independent emotionally mature adult, Hugo is Alita's fist love who doesn't really love her but his obsession with Zalem and her inability to save him (or make him actually love her). If you look a Alita as the major conflict that needs to be resolved is overcoming the bad guys then you are right and it is weak plot'wise, that isn't the point of her arch. In Star Wars (New Hope) Luke's maturing from an angsty immature far boy to sort of worldly adult hero is in service to the action conflict, in Alita the action conflict is in service to her growth from child to woman. If that makes any sense. In fairness that is much clearer in the Manga where Ido has a much harder time seeing Alita as anything more than a daughter he must protect and keep this perfect innocent child and Hugo who starts out a a likable streetwise rascal fleshing out to a manipulative obsessed not stand up guy. For example, in the Manga when they're on the tube before Hugo dies he doesn't reach back to go down with Alita, rather he dies because he refuses to abandon Tiphares (Zalem in the movie). What prompts him to take off up the tube in the first place is his hatred of being a cyborg btw. Alita has to come to terms with the fact that Hugo never actually loved her. Had the 'you can take my heart' scene happened in the Manga Hugo would have taken it with promises they'd get her a new heart. His role is to teach her that first love is powerful but fleeting and not 'true love forever', that not everyone can be saved no matter how much you want it, and that obsession is a vice.
@@personanongrata921 You're just seeing the movie from a western point of view where the action is much more predominant than character development, but in japanese (and asian) culture it is often the opposite. And the whole Alita story in the manga is a search of her own self... I am glad that's what they tried to portray in this movie.
@@personanongrata921 The plot of the manga is more episodic. Like Odysseus or Gilgamesh, Alita ends up visiting many different places and has some secondary arc of discovery there, but the primary plot is always about the protagonist themselves (like other Japanese stories like Zatoichi or Lone Wolf & Cub). The actual concerns of the places visited are always of secondary importance to the growth of the protagonist in them.
@@amightyshade Because it was a Blockbuster. Avatar sucks, but people still went on to see it. In droves. Because it had amazing media campaigns. So fuck off.
@@amightyshade First of all it's made by marvel which by that time had made infinity war own of the best movies ever plus marvel had a reputation for making good movies. Second of all it was the last movie before endgame so of course people watched it. And third you kinda had to for endgame.
@@livanbard at least they have clear motivation there. And most importantly they are natural. In Alita, almost all of the dialogues unnatural, most of their doings are unnecessary even where are they standing in scenes. That makes this movie BAD. Even the protagonist is nicely handled.
I actually like it when non horror movies make you feel unconfortable even after they're over. Specially when done for a purpose, like making you meditate in a certain topic
@@sdude50 I knew it was based on a manga I've just never read it. I was really worried when I saw the trailers because I thought it would be like ghost in the shell
Fun fact zalem is far too similar to zalim in turkish which means cruel/despot. The first moment I hear the city of zalem it was so clear that thing in the air is bad.
Fatih Güner According to the author (Kishiro) it was a play on the second half of “Jerusalem.” In the manga, there’s a city called “Jeru,” and another called “Zalem.” Oddly enough, “Salem - Zalem:” “Salem” means “peace.”
Alita Battle Angel has a plot. It's just not a McGuffin plot. She not trying to find a glowing box like a Marvel or DC movie. She's not trying to save a city or catch a villan. She's trying to discover her purpose and it's very clear throughout the film that this is what she's trying to do
@@alfredohernandez7486 Wrong. Check out Lawrence of Arabia. The whole movie is about figuring out who you are. There are many other stories where that is the plot.
I love this movie and I love Alita. She's badass, cute, curious, friendly, she has times of fear, uncertainty, joy, depression and elation. She's great, how can you not love her?
The movie is character driven and its mostly filled with character arcs leading into a bigger plot narrative. so the movie fails if you walk away not giving a care about Alita.
How is it possible not to care for Alita though. Rosa's performance and how lovingly she was rendered as Alita and the emotional journey she goes through it seems incredible to me that some people can't empathise and make a connection with her.
it's not manipulation, it's an Eastern Storytelling style where the story is driven by character rather than plot. It's why the "slice of life" genre exists in anime. To be brutally honest it seems to be the right direction to go, because ultimately you can still have enjoyable stories held up by characters alone, but when it's only about plot, things fall apart entirely.
@@braiansingh9730 I'm not going to claim these as extreme examples, but take something like "a silent voice" and compare it to something like "the force awakens"
Yet another female warrior movie that is better at being a female warrior movie than Cap'n Marvel. Alita even has the same ability/superpower: second wind. But while Marvel is a smug (ironically) emotionless cardboard cutout of a character, Alita has actual emotions, and is (ironically) 99% robot. Also Alita's power ramps up gradually, but even at the end in her (presumably) most powerful purpley form, she might not be strong enough to take on Zalem. After all, she wasn't able to take the city with an army of Alita soldiers. So even though she gets more powerful, and we cheer her on every step of the way, the stakes and risks are never lost.
I like MArvel's humor and how she is.. Guess it's my personality. Humor is a very important thing in my life so not everyone is displeased with MArvel.
They all got wiped out by the moving wheel of death, something she has learned to avoid now but obviously now it's going to be much harder since it's just her vs the entire floating city
One of Alita's charms is that she actually acts feminine. There's a delicateness to her that belies her underlying strength, and a naivete that she never really gets rid of. But she has that diminutive, and caring demeanour that a lot of the "i am woman hear me roar" characters we see so often lack.
ukkr oh wow! Having creators that actually are supportive of dreams are so important and define a good movie. I’m thinking of into the spider verse where I read about how the creators were really trying to inspire others to care about the dreams (I forgot like all the details) vs cap marvel pushing ‘feminism’ way to hard. Alita is a feminist but in a more subtle way, there’s no “oh, I’ve always been discriminated against” when there’s literally no discrimination, she presents it in her own unique way. Woman are generally more emotional and despite alita being powerful, she still breaks down SEVERAL times but manages to rise to the occasion. Into the spider verse also gave what I (being white so not accurate) feel is a more accurate feeling and where culture actually was shown. The movie didn’t even focus on discrimination but I feel is still a great role model bc the culture wasn’t advertised but it’s definitely an integral part of the story. It’s a part of miles that plays a more hidden main part of the story bc it’s about him finding out who he is. Graffiti is the constant reputation and if he wasn’t into graffiti, he’d never even be bitten by a radioactive spider. (Yeah, sorry for bringing this all about into the spider verse. I just love that film, if you haven’t watched it, you should. Graphics are the best part!)
I'm guessing that you reviewed the movie without ever having seen the original manga and anime works it is based on because the movie was pretty much perfect for what it was supposed to be. I don't think it could have possibly been done better and I was thrilled by every moment of it.
This movie actually got me into the Manga. And yes, i loved the little things i know about the plot. I am reading the manga and have watched this movie twice now. I am planning to see the anime too.
Now I have no clue how I missed this movie up til now so literally came into this review knowing nothing though the first big thing I noticed was "wow they really must have taken some major inspiration from Anime/Manga because of her eyes alone. In Japan large eyes signify innocence and cuteness; it's also used to help the characters show their emotions easier. So finding it was literally based on a Manga/Anime is pretty hilarious to me 🤣🤣🤣
Well the people in charge of making the movie respected the source material so much that the writer of the manga was actively involved in it's production.
She's super likeable character. I like the way she never pointing someone else if something goes messed up. She always has a solution by doing it herself no matter what
Alita manipulates men in the same way Twilight manipulates teenagers girls and in the same way 50 shades of grey manipulates young women. Making you fall in love whit the main character and you want to see more of it doesn´t mean its a good movie.
@@curtiszilla9192 no, people don't hate characters who blame themselves for their problems, people hate Mary Sue's who never have a problem or who never seem to think maybe they may have done something wrong.
@@curtiszilla9192 I think people hate Deus Ex Machinae who never fail or chars that always have fate on their side, with someone or something always saving them. It is not really the case for Alita.
The scary shit about this movie is that it's not just the movie makers manipulating the audience. The same manipulation actually occurs within the context of the movie. It's not so subtly hinted that Alita is a 100-year-old bio-engineered cyborg supersoldier from Mars. Nothing about her personality or appearance is coincidental, upon deeper inspection. She's very deliberately designed to be unwaveringly loyal to whomever she imprints on as "her side", when her memory is reset.
Honestly if this is the impression you get from the movie, then in my opinion you are reading something into it that does not exist. The Alita movie is based on a very long running manga, and this movie only covers approximately the first 2-3 volumes of a series that is currently at volume 35. If you read the manga, you will quickly realize that her personality and appearance are simply an evolution of who she has always been. The adult Alita, looks just like an older version of the young child Alita (much younger than the Alita in the movie) and barring some stuff that took place during her initial training as a child, her choices about who she is loyal to are entirely her own. To be very clear, the Alita in the manga is a person who's loyalty very much needs to be earned.
@@SectionNyne I'm working off the information given in the movie. I certainly did not get the impression that she just happens to have the personality she has and just happens to be a Martian supersoldier at the same time. To me, it just not seems like a plausible coincidence.
@@KohuGaly As I mentioned, the movie is based on the first 2-3 volumes of a manga series that is currently at volume 35 and has been running almost continuously since 1991. You could think of this movie as being the equivalent of Bilbo's birthday party at the beginning of the first Lord of the Rings movie in comparison to the entire trilogy. It's just a tiny first look into a GIANT world. SPOILER WARNING FOR THE MANGA! I'm assuming that if you have not read the manga by now that you have no interest in doing so. The events of the movie, like the first few volumes of the manga, represent a reset in Alita's life. The innocent, almost naive personality she has at this time is very much the same personality she had as a child. She went through intensive training and indoctrination on Mars, which hardened her, but her innate "goodness" and sense of justice and honor prevented her from becoming one of the truly elite members of the supersoldiers. Yes, that means that the Alita you see at the time of the movie is nothing compared to the rest of the supersoldiers. She was considered the weak one on the team and was seen by many as a liability. With this reset, she basically gets a second chance to do it all over again, but this time without the interference of her Martian teachers. As the manga progresses, she eventually realizes that her honor and innate goodness was never really the weakness she was raised to think it was. In fact, the more she embraces who she really is, the better and more powerful she becomes because she is now fighting for her own reasons, instead of reasons imposed on her by someone else. At her core, Alita is driven by a sense of honor, justice and the need to protect and help those around her. This is even stated openly in the movie when she says "I do not stand by in the presence of evil!" If you go back and look at the movie again with this in mind, you will notice that all of her actions are based on a desire to protect anyone she perceives as weaker and/or being threatened by some evil. For example, she certainly was not imprinted on that little dog when she dove into the path of the guardian to protect it. She just saw it as an innocent that was being threatened. She also physically stopped Ido when she thought he was about to ambush that woman in the alley. As the manga goes on, it becomes very evident that she almost can't help herself and needs to jump in to help when she sees something she thinks is wrong. There are even several instances of her opponents taking advantage of this in order to lure her into a fight or trap. Once again, I will say that I think you are reading something into the movie portrayal of Alita that is just not there. So far movie Alita has been the same as manga Alita and manga Alita certainly has free will and makes her own choices. There is even a moment in the manga where she straight up says to another character, "You don't understand. You act as if I take commands. I am a cyborg, not a robot."
@@SectionNyne I just want to say that I do not agree that the manga is 35 volumes. To me, it is 9 volumes, which was then retconned to create the Last Order version of the ending of the story leading to what is now a much lengthier tale. Your point still remains though in context of the 9 volume orignal.
@@RayearthIX Well, as I understand it, Yukito Kishiro initially intended for the original manga to continue well past volume 9, however he had to end it after 9 volumes due to some health issues. He was never happy with the ending he wrote so once his health improved, he went back and as you said, retconned the ending in order to continue telling the story he originally intended to tell. If you do not like the subsequent series' then that is your choice, however it doesn't change the fact that Yukito Kishiro has so far produced 9 volumes of the the original Gunnm, 19 Volumes of Gunnm Last Order and 7 volumes of Gunnm Mars Chronicle for a total of 35 volumes telling the story of Gally/Alita/Yoko. Again, if you do not like anything past volume 9 of the original series, that's fine, however when discussing this series with someone who is not familiar with it, we need to be clear that there are in fact a total of 35 volumes and counting.
@@SnakeWasRight I don't even have a blu-ray player any more, but I will buy a bunch of blurays to support the movie and increase the chances for a sequel.
@@SnakeWasRight Interesting, in my experience blu-rays have a far superior picture than any digital download, and when You buy a blu-ray, You actually own it, while on digital, You only borrow it, and if a service You use loses the rights to borrow it to You, You can no longer watch it, even though You paid for it.
The movie and this video essay is a showing of just how phenomenal of a job Rosa Salazar did in the role. She really doesn't get enough credit or recognition for it. She is the Title character, carries the whole film, trained to do her stunts, and to me was the best female hero character of all time. She is optimistic through her amnesia, has hope through despair and is just so much fun to watch on screen, her acting is out of this world.
Yyup... a longform serialized manga with a searching their calling and no clearcut external goal type protagonist. Extremely hard to adapt to movie format, and no matter what results in unconventional pacing. And despite not knowing the source material, that made it all the more engaging. Though after Bleach, Yuu Yuu Hakusho, Trigun and Cowboy Bebop I suspect I already conditioned myself to make this movie love at first sight.
The thing is, everything that they changed from the manga or added opened plotholes that go against other elements of the world-building. For example, the Centaurion robots and the apparent police state clash with the idea of absolute anarchy and the need for bounty hunters. If you can have Centaurions patrolling the streets day & night, what's the point of bounty hunters? Another example is the change of origin of Alita's first set of prosthetics and how she managed to withstand and overpower Grewishka's attacks using a child's non-combat-specific prosthetics.
@@Kakachi07 the anime share some points with the movie, but some parts of the manga are in the movie and not in the anime or vice-versa, also there are some big changes like Alita's name origin and new characters
Just realise that, everything that tries to effect you in any shaoe or form, IS manipulation. Like teaching a kid not to touch fire 'cuz that thing sabout hot and will hurt IS MANIPULATING A CHILD. We often use the word manipulation in a negative light, but in fact it is valid on a much broader scale. Not so offensive once you let go of preconceived feeling and judge the statment neutrally as it is. A crafted story inherently needs to be emotionally nanipulative to make it engaging on that level. The fact of manipulation does not exclude it being honest/sincere.
@@madcowboy5700 I know, just lemme play captain obvious, overexplain, practice a foreign language, and generally be hype again abut this gem of a movie :D And who knows, my ramblings might end up entertaining for someone in the comments
@@janosd4nuke dude no. teaching kid to not touch fire isnt manipulation. its teaching. manipulation is like just begging gf to do what you want instead what she wanted to do, most of the times its not even intended.
There is a good reason for this. It's based on a very long (and ongoing) comic. The first thing to do for a comic to succeed is to get the audience to emotionally connect with the main character. Once that is done, then you work on story/plot. You give this loved character an adventure that the reader will be glued to for the rest of the comic series. If this movie is to be a trilogy (or longer), it would only get better and better, as the first goal has already been achieved. In contrast, Captain Marvel did not connect emotionally with hardly anyone in her first move, so a second Captain Marvel movie will likely be worse than the first one (unless they put in a lot of time to make her more likable, which would take practically the whole movie). Watching Alita wasn't so much about wanting it to have a "critically acclaimed plot", it was more about going on an adventure with someone who is likable. That's also why it has so much rewatchability. It's a fun journey.
Her goal: Rediscover her humanity. Her eyes: designed for interplanetary travel and combat. Her enemy: The Plutocrats, Oligarchs, and their pawns that control the solar system.
True... But a plot is more of an outside force on the protagonist. Something that drives the protagonist to do stuff rather than 'this looks cool, might do that' that's not necessarily a bad thing! This movie like F said is still great. As for a plot of finding yourself, I feel a comparison to Rango would be great. A similar start where the main character starts without any real previous life, no name, no history, no personality besides wishing to be something, and yet a (n actual) plot still gets introduced later on, about halfway through. The only difference in this regard I see is that in Alita the plot gets established at the very end of the movie, to drive the sequel, rather than in the middle to drive this movie.
@@dominikrudolfettrich2556 this is false. There are three kinds. Man versus man. Man versus nature. And man versus self. This movie is a man versus self. It is her struggles within herself to find herself and who she is and her past.
No, that's the story... A plot is the things that happens during the movie.. The story in lord of the rings, is that the ring needs to be destroyed, otherwise the world is destroyed... The plot is how Frodo is going to get it there
@@reeanimationgaming1034 no. What you said for Lord of the rings was not the story, it was the end goal Plot- the main events of a play, novel, movie, or similar work, devised and presented by the writer as an interrelated sequence. Story- a plot of story line These are the detentions. The story of this movie is her finding herself.
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"How to Manipulate the Audience" Nah... They won't get me! Alita gets her name: "Can I keep it?" *goes to buy movie* 🤣
I saw Alita for the second time, and the points made in this film hit like a homerun.. And yes, we need more Alita movies, like, yesterday! I also need to see more of her so bad..
To be fair, its not just the animation of Alita in the movie that's so loveable... Its Rosa Salazar in general, in interviews she is the coolest, cutest, most loveable person ever!!!
1. *Anime eyes* for disney princesses. 2. Nothing to the max. *Zero to hero.* Make the most out of nothing, and start with as bad of a hand as possible. Optimism. 3. Self Under Others. *Selfless.* Put others before yourself. Save the cat. When doing bad things, do them for others, not for yourself. 4. The standing (wo)man. *Always get back up.* The standing person.
Ambiguous Sarcasm honestly I didn’t hate Captain Marvel because of Larson or her performance, I just felt that Captain Marvel was poorly written as both a character and a film.
which is funny because Alita never gave his heart to anyone , but she used it as a collateral for an arm wrestling contest !as i said before they butchered Alita's character so badly that it makes me happy there are no sequels coming !
I remember "critics" (Read: Feminazi far leftist SJW liberal wannabe-journalists) shitting over ths movie because it was "problematic" (read: Did not agree with their viewpoint and image of a strong female lead because she did stuff for other people and was overly "sexualized"(read: She was good-looking))
I liked "Alita: Battle Angel" because: 1. She showed genuine concern for others outside of herself. 2. She expressed love. 3. She showed devotion. 4. She was selfless. The character possessed less than nothing, yet was willing to give her physical heart to the one she loved. On top of all that, she was a badass warrior. The character never got preachy with the audience and delivered the message about class struggle and the have-and-have-nots in such a low-key way, no one even noticed; no one even cared. I was never a reader of the manga, but I am definitely a fan of this film... and you should be too! "Alita: Battle Angel" A story a movie about a robot that's more human than most movies you'll ever watch.
yeah but the point of the video is that they use those aspect's of her and take them to the extreme in order to trick and manipulate the viewer into not paying attention to how bad the story is written.... its okay that you like it
@@ninvusoogoar6098 , I enjoyed the bad story. I enjoyed being manipulated. I enjoy suspending disbelief. It's the reason I go to watch movies; to escape from reality. I want to watch a giant lizard step on Tokyo for the umpteenth time. I want to watch two impossibly beautiful people find love, lose love, and find it again. And if the makers of the movie want to trick me into liking these sappy and often bad stories while not telling me I am a bad person for existing in the universe, all the better.
@@ejeckk never said you couldnt enjoy it. just saying it manipulates the audience into thinking the movie its self is good by manipulating the viewer with such an emotional triggering character like she is. there are rule's in writing, while you can bend them around into something interesting they are still there... this movie on a story level is just not there till almost the very end. which is perfectly fine, just not fine for people to claim the movie is really good. as a story being told it fails, but as a emotional rollercoaster it succeeds. you are free to love it, no one can take that from you.
Alita is not a robot, she is a human brain living inside a robotic body. Like "Major" in Ghost in the Shell. Her "father" Ido even says it: "This is only a shell. It can be used for good or bad. That choice is up to *you* "
You're right. It's better to call your girlfriend to save your ass. It's not like he was a tough guy who dismembered other cyborgs to sell their parts.
Critics and movie studios alike have always tried to fit films into neat, tidy boxes of easily definable characteristics that viewers can consume without it requiring them to think outside of the box, or simply think period. It makes them easy to market, sure, but it also lends itself to the stagnation that Hollywood is now buried in with rehashes, copies, and reboots from now till it's inevitable demise. That is not to say that Alita Battle Angel is some kind of revolutionary concept, or even an original one being based on a Manga and anime. But this film does go against much of the standard trappings of current filmmaking in many ways that cause critics as well as pundits to struggle to categorize and label a film such as this, much less recognize where exactly the plot exists. Many immediately dismiss it as mindless action drivel because they are unwilling to allow themselves to be open to experiencing it on it's own merits, not seeing the forest for the trees as it were. I'm not saying that Alita is necessarily a groundbreaking film, but in my opinion it is one of the most enjoyable and entertaining films released thusfar in 2019 at the very least because it doesn't follow the archetypes of other films per se, it definitely tries to forge it's own identity. Just my humble opinion.
The problem is you watched this movie as a MCU superhero movie (not your fault since most have been brainwashed). The plot is simple, yet layered and absolutely brilliant. The first scene and last scene bookends the main plot of the movie, which is Alita’s journey of self discovery from being thrown out as trash in a junkyard to a warrior who knows who she is and her purpose. Everything ingeniously feeds into this main plot line. Throughout the movie, she grows in almost every way.. Physically, emotionally, in her understanding of the world she woke up in, her fighting abilities, relationships, and more. You think the plot starts with meeting the villain, but the villains are only there to show her progress as a warrior. Everyone confuses the macro plot of the Alita universe (heroes vs villains) with the plot of the movie (Alita’s journey). It’s so unfortunate that so many people miss how great the movie was put together because of Disney’s cookiecutter superhero movies. It’s layered because Alita deals with everything a human person faces growing up. Acceptance for who they are, finding their purpose, understanding what love is... You can dive into each one of these and see how these sub-plots affect Alita and how Alita touches almost everyone around her. That’s what makes her such a strong character. Not only because she is physically strong, but strong of heart and personality. So much so that she can heal Ido’s broken heart, save Hugo’s comprised heart, and turn Chiren’s misguided heart. It’s a story about humanity. So much there... again, unfortunately so many people will not be able to appreciate how great of a story this actually is.
Exactly. Alita is meant to "speak" to the audience. Everyone understands Alita and her lessons of being truly human and empathetic, of being selfless and caring more about others than ourselves, sacrificing yourself for others, instead of sacrificing others for yourself. There's a big difference between a 'superhero' and a HERO, and that is Alita, she's a HERO, not an empty superhero.
The main reason this is always going to be a movie I remember fondly is that it made me want to read Gunm/Alita and that's been one of my favourite manga franchises ever.
This is not true... I mean, I only went 5 times to this movie, others did it 10 times, si I was clearly not manipulated in any way... oh man I can not wait for that blu ray to arrive XD
I really hope that a sequel gets made. If you didn't know, Alita is an adaptation of an Anime and Manga. It's not uncommon for an anime to spend a lot of time getting settled in a very outlandish world, getting the protagonist situated and familiar with it, and then executing a more complex plot now that the setting is understood and the protagonist is pre-developed (though with plenty of development on the road ahead). For example, Re: Zero, a very good anime, the first few story arcs involve the protag just figuring things out and trying not to die with little emphasis on antagonists. Then, once he's situated, the anime starts to dive into more intricate and woven plot lines focused around concrete villains which the audience can now follow and the fish-out-of-water protagonist can realistically grasp as well. I think a sequel would be awesome.
Cyborg technically she has a teenage girls human brain I believe her human character was 18 or 19 when she was critically wounded in the war and her brain was used by the military to build special forces style warrior cyborgs to fight in the war after extensive training.
I hate when I get manipulated into investing into characters though proper character development and forget that it's been 2 hours and only once building blew up so far
@@MJR_heyfunny SPOILERS: Mars chronicles shows us that she was actually a cyborg at a very young age. We actually dont know where she came from or how she was born. Muster thought she was born from Kagura's tumor thing but that proves to be wrong. Im guessing that Erica and Alita are eventually taught panzer kuntz later on in the manga and fight in the mars war which causes alita to be yeeted into space as punishment.
Revan They changed a lot of things on the movie and idk how they’re gonna make the rest of the series work. They’ve showed us in the movie that zalemites have brains, Nova lives on zalem, and nova was alive 200 years ago. those are only a few things i noticed but i’m curious to see how the next movie(s) will be, if they make any.
Personally when Alita did that whole heart scene, I couldn't help but feel that was more of a statement of her character, rather than some creepy comment about her devotion to a potential boyfriend. She's the kind of person who would give her all to others, especially those she cares about. what better illustrates that than literally offering to give someone her heart? I can see why some people see it as weird, but to be honest that scene got me a bit choked up, because for whatever reason I looked at it symbolically, not literally. It just made me want to see more of this Alita. XP A proper strong female character, who has the innocence of a child and the heart of a warrior. P.S. From what I understand this is a film adaptation of the first part of the Manga, so I kind of get why it was a bit slow on the whole plot thing, but hey, I'd rather there be light plot, slow and good story, with the promise of an exciting sequel, than for it to be a rushed jumbled mess like that Avatar the Last airbender movie. Blech! that movie was horrible, especially if you watched the show. X< but hey, thats what happens if you try to cram a full season of good TV story telling into an hour and 43 minutes, plus a bunch of changes that make no sense.
I recommend reading the manga. The story is a bit different and it is also more fleshed out. It is still ongoing. But I should remind you it is a shounen action maybe seinen action manga, similar to dragon ball etc. Meaning the fights are sometimes tournament style and she levels up her "powers" throughout the story.
Yeah I felt like her "giving her heart" was a very human thing to do. She truly cared about the people who trusted her and was willing to give them a better life at the expense of herself.
WhiteDragonCM U didn’t look at it symbolically for no reason, it’s definitely why she did that. She’s beautifully selfless, that’s one of the things that makes the character one of my all-time favourites
Same that was the first thing I thought of when I saw that scene since it made sense since she was technically a cyborg who know absolutely nothing about how human normally act.
I loved Alita, it was a great movie, not for a second did I think I was wasting my time. There is one particular reason I love the character, and that is the honor she has. She is willing to fight for those who cant, for the greater good. No where is she selfish, as if all her negative human traits have been wiped from her character. Her character is who I would like to be like, truthful, brave, honorable and caring.
Agreed. Most of the story plot was on point with the Manga series..which BTW is very extensive and long...if they added more of that in the film, it not only would be too long a movie, but risks the change of newer audiences not familiar with this anime more confused and lost...
I think the use of plot is confusing. I think what he means is that there is no story driving conflict that guides the main character. Alita is living her life and ocassionally stumbles into situations she barely knows anything about. I guess it's common wisdom in films to set up a conflict early which in Alita happens in the last 10 minutes of the film.
@@annikalapudas9742 She's not Flawless She's Loved By Hugo Who Doesnt Really know what he has and Ido But Ido sees Alita as a daughter figure Its only Though the film does she gain Character and Throughout the Manga and In the Movie Her First Body Is Destroyed Weakness also Comes from her Inner Conflicts Throughout Hopefully the Sequel Likes the Manga She 0ften Wants to Return to being Idos Daughter Figure And Has to Step Up After and 0vercome her 0wn Insecurıtys Also Aside from having Weaknesses In this First Movie Through Her Body In the Manga She's Still Has 0bstacles to 0vercome Just Because She's Powerful Doesnt Mean She's Flawless Its Not Like Captain Marvel Where Even The Villains Like Her and Her Inner Conflicts Come From Men Talking Mean to Her In Flashbacks and Being the Godlike Invincible Character In Endgame She Had 0bstacles To 0vercome In The Movie And She Even Lost Hugo at the End 0,f the Movıe And More Down the Line She Lost In Thıs Movıe But She's Stıll Fıghtıng So She Has Inner Conflicts 0uter Conflicts Love 0nes Whos Also In Danger As Even 0ne of them Dieıng "Hugo" and His Friend Dieing Her Body Being Destroyed and Later 0n Havıng To Have More Conflicts If your Talking about the Way She Acts Its Because She Grows As a Character A Naive Young Girl Who's Treated Like a Daughter by a Mourning Man Who Lost His 0wn Daughter Grows Into an Actual Character Like For Example At the Start a Thing She Thinks Is Just Cool Like Motorball Actually Becomes 0ne of Her Hobbys and a Major Plot Point of her Character Flawless No 0verpowerd 0nly At the End But Wıth Actual Reason and Doesnt Hinder the Story Cause This First Movie Isnt About Defeating the Enemy Its About Her Just Wanting To Live Her 0wn Life but It Forced To Fight And Thats 0nly My 0ppinion But I Thınk Flawless Is a Stupid Argument
@@MoffatLee Me nether, but the plot summary I checked says that Hugo run off to Zalem by his own will and Alita tried to stop him. He also wouldn't have needed to be "cyborgisized" if he hadn't been wanted criminal. Okay, I wouldn't say Alita is 100% flawless, because she is definitely naive which is because she had her memory lost, but I think she lacks interesting character flaws and is too likeable at least in this first movie which makes her boring to me. I believe she most certainly has a lot of character growth in the manga but I haven't read it and I'm judging only by this first movie.
If you’re still curious there is a prequel manga series Alita: Mars Chronicle all about that currently running. Also like 80% of the sequel series Alita: Last Order takes place in space. There’s a whole legendarium of Alita content if you don’t mind reading (backwards).
Dude: I want to watch a movie with a bunch of satisfying action. *watches John Wick - a movie with a bunch of satisfying action Filmento: The audience was being manipulated into liking the movie John Wick. It's not being "manipulated". It's literally what we want. We aren't being tricked into liking this movie. Who the fuck calls this manipulation @filmento.
Alita manipulates men in the same way Twilight manipulates teenagers girls and in the same way 50 shades of grey manipulates young women. Making you fall in love whit the main character and you want to see more of it doesn´t mean its a good movie.
Sry, the film has a plot, she is discovering herself and remembering everything which she lost and Main thing his is just introductory part ..sequel will arrive to explain it And I love the movie if anyone feels the same ,,,,,hit like
Doesn't have a cinecomic's plot where the main villain has to be defeated for whatever reason.. as you said the movie is about Alita trying to discover her past through stressful situations and combat. Also all side characters have their motivations to do what they do and say that this movie doesn't have a plot is.. stupid.
If you look carefully at Alita's face at the end you can see than the happy days are over... and the future is going darker and Alita will go to Fallen Angel litéraly.
@@TheFourthWinchester haha if you want to be with Alita Fallen Angel, you must be prepare to suffer a lot, if you survive, may be you will toutch her heart. Because: static1.squarespace.com/static/5017c2ace4b01a67d6bdc30c/t/544570bde4b0e284a8f8dc3b/1413837005718/
In Hugo's defense, he fought a bit against Zapan (threw a grenade), he probably knew that he'll never win after seeing his buddy Tanji get cut in half. But besides that, if we'll have a sequel, we're gonna have Figure four, and some old time Alita fans claim that he's an amazing bf to Alita in the manga. #AlitaArmy
The funny thing about James Cameron is he's one of the biggest assholes in Hollywood he's got more ex wives than Game of Thrones has disappointed fans. And yet somehow, he and a few old men, managed to create the most realistic teenage love story I've ever seen.
dragonball z is a solid source material but did the hollywood version of it satsify its fans? no. because of poor directorial management and execution.
This not "manipulation". The writer wanted the audience ti identify with and root for Alita. This is just character development done very well and a great example of the art of film.
I disagree with the "there's no plot" argument. I think the confusion comes from Western standards+general lack of awareness of the manga arcs. To me this movie is a mixture between Hollywood and Japanese styles and cliches. In regards of the plot, the plot isn't going A to B, but rather just showing the every day life of Alita, the main character, and how she passes from a naive teenage girl, to a more mature young adult that has to live with real world consequences and decide whether to make a stance or not. That's the movie arc for me, not the villain, not the plot device, but the main character arc. It starts as a girl who doesn't know who she is, and it ends as scarred young woman who knows exactly what she wants. I've seen a lot of japanese movies like that, and I don't mind it at all. Bonus: A pefect example of the mixture is hugo-alita relationship. In the manga, Hugo doesn't care much for her, he only cares about reaching Zalem, he has a tragic past that fuels that desire, so it's mainly Alita having a teenage crush on him, a really obsessive one that even leads to intimidating him, and by the end, he ends up crazy because he can't deal with the fact he no longer has a body. Alita's next arc is all about her growing up, realizing the cute but unhealthy relationship, and finding meaning in the middle of grief and being lost. Cameron took that and made Hugo a typical western prince charming, deciding to change his life because he loves Alita, climbing to zalem not because he's mind finally broke, but because he has no other choice. And also, he doesn't even die because Nova kills him. In the manga, the defense mechanism is automatic, which means NOBODY CARED ENOUGH for the whole thing anymore than if a child or a cat tried to reach Zalem. By having Nova pressing the buttons, Cameron made it more "personal" instead of the classic "you're just a number" of most cyberpunk mangas. This mixture between 2 ways of world building and storytelling confused the hell of a lot of people that got neither the full japanese version nor the full western standard one. That being said, I love the movie, I think it's the most faithful and caring adaptation to a manga ever made to date. The amount of references and details clearly show THEY CARED.
@@TheSoundSpell no... I'm referring to the rushed finale that was scrapped later to continue with "Alita: last order". At the times the author was really sick and believed to be almost dying... so he arranged the finale inserting his main ideas for the character.
I watched this Filmento review, didn't even know about this movie, and decided to watch the film today. Pleasantly surprised!!! I had seen little movie posters here and there but it looked like a silly action movie, but boy was I wrong. It definitely needs a sequel to seal the deal!
I’m scared what they will do with a sequel, I’m concerned they will turn it into a political statement rather than just keeping it a good movie to be a good movie
The Alita manga really starts off slow as well, so I don't blame them for having problems with the plot. Though the way they implement her backstory is pretty clever (it's not revealed until waaaayy later in the manga). Keep in mind that this movie is basically 1/9 of the whole Alita saga from the manga. 1/3 if Cameron is going to go with the main ending of the original series. Also, manga Alita is a complete cinnamon roll.
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Losing all your limbs but one arm is something that happens when you don't have the high ground and you overestimate your power.
I had a flashback to Anakin Skywalker (SW Ep3)!... sorry.
or failing a science experiment to resurrect a deceased relative.
@@ncdxero88 AL!!!!!!!!
*Punch to the brain through the eye socket*
This si Twilight for men
So when Alita: Battle Angel manipulates its audience it's "smart" and "something to learn from"
But when I manipulate my friends into liking me it's "wrongful" and "immoral"
Bruh I was thinking the same thing! Why do people hate me but not Aliya? Wait, I think I figured it out. Time to go rip out someone else's eyes so I can get bigger ones. That'll fix it!
Ok
Lol😂
Imma whoosh this.
The smart and something to learn from part is for people who want to create a story or a plot for a movie to make it seem good to the eyes and emotion of the audiences, and as it is obvious, a movie is and always a fiction (in some exceptions of course).
But in social interactions, being manipulative is always degraded and derogatory because the success of social interactions *IDEALLY* succeeds in sincerity and honesty, not theatrics. It's basically the same thing with being uncomfortable in some manner to a person who is a fake or an overly toxic and dramatic person.
That's basically a breakdown of the joke
Well, in Hugo's defense, if the superhuman dude chasing you just cut your buddy in half in front of your face, you'd call your superhuman girlfriend for help too.
isnt he a cyborg too? I'd rather someone be inspired BY a friend to fight that ruin them by sticking yourself into their life so stupidly and selfishly
@@PattPlays He's not a cyborg at that point, no. Later, yeah, but then, nope.
duberdum > yea + where does the 'no plot.. or not till the end' criticism fit in a show not tell context of a protagonist having ZERO memory to begin with.. Well, maybe he'll gain some more respect after discovering just how much research and work Kishiro put into learning Christian beliefs and European philosophies.. which the complete story is as nearly entwined in as (Edt.)is the original Star Wars trilogies
Exactly lol
@Radio Kaos Exactly
Honestly I REALLY liked this film. It didn’t make the most sense, but the atmosphere was INCREDIBLY IMMERSIVE. I hope Alita gets herself a sequel to continue being explored.
Got that right also I hope the sequel is well as the first film but goes all out with the story and her tryna go up against said villain in the upper city
I know this is a random year-old comment, but I can 100% recommend the Alita/Gunm manga. Especially if you liked the atmosphere and worldbuilding.
you need to read the graphic novel, it is so good.
Alita: *loses all her limbs*
Alita: "Tis but a scratch!"
Guillaume Renel I was looking for this exact comment
*immediately dies*
I thought of that too
"It's just a flesh wound."
oh good lord is that ever a perfect comment :LLL
She literally open her chest, took her own heart, and offers it to Hugo...
I like your comment , I really do !
But I hope you realize that that was just a computer image manipulation.
And, it was just a movie , not real...
so she did not "literally" open anything ...
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@@krixpop I like your comment, I really do, But I hope you realize that literally informally define to be
used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true ; used to emphasize what your saying ; simply or just.
Example
"I was literally blown away by the response I got by this asshole on youtube".
"I literally did not check the dictionary definition on literally before I sarcastically demeans what other people literally comment on a literal movie about literal cgi animation"
@@krixpop dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/literally
@@krixpop If you literally want to literal check am i saying gibberish things or literal
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I stand corrected, then...
I liked your comment (lol ) because the idea of a woman giving her heart to you / me / any man, is extraordinary ...As of late It happens only in movies/books/etc.
The message behind her giving her heart brought me to tears, when I first saw the movie...
I belong to an older age group; I was raptured by insane love and received back the love I gave. I had my share!
I just fear, that love (romantic love, not sexual love) is experienced more and more just on screen, and less in flesh. And misused in promiscuous relations...
Remember?
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs"
We lost that kind of love, didn't we?
"How to manipulate the audience"
Kill a dog. John Wick did it, Alita did it.
And both are fucking badass and loved
Your comment is misleading. I’m agreeing the Movies did so, the protagonist did not.
The dog actually survived and is now part of the pack of that Cyborg guy and his hounds. It's in a deleted scene in the movie's Twitter account
@@KingVegeta009 it was just a vídeo made for fun, it's not cannon sadly, no way that a little dog could had survived that
@@rodrigobogado8756 If the brain is intact, it is totally possible in a world of cybernetic enhancements. That dog looked too small for the cutters though, probably ripped to shreds.
Basically, Alita reacts like a child. Everything is new and exciting to her. And we as empathic beings mirror her emotions. This is essentialy what makes parenting enjoyable. Add huge eyes to really drive the manipulation home.
She's more like a 300 year old warrier who forgot everything and is relearning life. She knows that she used to be something great, but she has to try really hard to get that all back. If you look closely at her actions, she's initially empathetic and cheerful, but quickly turns sassy and cold. Although she initially saved the dog in the beginning, she didn't even flinch later when Grewishka killed it after she regained part of her memory. She also began to kill mercilesly without any hesitation or remorse.
Pretty sure if a movie manipulates its audience into enjoying it that just means it's a good movie.
Yup
I think the title of the video is just a different way of looking at it, also it attracts more attention. Of course movies "manipulates" its audience. Those that fail to do so get dropped by the audience.
Technically yes but no
It’s a good movie but it’s not a good *movie*
@@conormurphy4328 if.its a good movie it's a good movie
"Nobody in the world deserve a girl like alita... exept maybe jesus or keanu "
He kill's me 🤣
That had me laughing aloud
This movie is overrated
@@SuperMurray2009 This move is -overrated- Underrated.. FTFY.
Does she have a cookie ? I want to put my hand in her jar !
Oh, you're in it for a surprise on her next boyfriend - unless James Cameron calls Keanu (hummmmm)
That movie has heart, damn it. It's not a soulless committee driven cash grab that most modern movies are.
It feels like a passion project for everyone involved, from James Cameron to Robert Rodriguez to Rosa Salazar.
lol, it's just full of clichees.
go read the manga and puke over how they dumbed it down.
@@tja9212 Obviously. The manga is outdated and from a completely different culture.
@@anitaremenarova6662wat? it's nowhere "outdated". It's still fresh and incredible good, rich scifi. You should read it sometimes.
@@tja9212 My second point still stands. They had to make it full of cliches because the people overseeing the project wouldn't let them release it because it's "too different from the standard formula and it wouldn't work"
"where else but in a sci fi movie does a character gets dismembered but still refuses to give up?"
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
That was more comedic than emotional.
@@ALJ9000 gee, thanks. I had not noticed that movie by Monty Python was a comedy! :D
Anime of course
They are not the hero's we deserve but the hero's we need
Tis but a flesh wound
Hugo does come across as a whiner in the context of his own character, but within the themes of the story, his weaknesses and negative qualities are there to expose Alita to the flaws of the human condition. He breaks her absolute faith that good guys are good and bad guys are bad, following the fake-out along the same lines with Ido earlier. The bad parts of Hugo's identity, or rather the consequences thereof, then become another obstacle for Alita to challenge and overcome.
The twist is that she doesn't succeed in doing so, because it's out of her control. Hugo's own failings condemn and destroy him, and she can't do anything about it in the end.
Very true, and that failure, in the 9 volume manga, will go on to shape her life, her actions, and what happens after as she goes searching for answers. Initially small scale ones, and then larger world altering ones once her entire world is shifted again later in the series.
But....Hugo says " thank you for saving me".. and dies. What is that? Is there a level of saved that is greater than the death you're about to die? Or what is the point of being "saved" and then dying? Did alita impart something to Hugo that she didn't know?
@@1bengrubb Before Alita showed up, Hugo was participating in the gang, hurting people, and stealing body parts. Their relationship caused him to have second thoughts and do the right thing by quitting. She saved him on a moral level by being a good person and influencing him to be better. It just wasn't enough to prevent everything he'd done from catching up to him.
@@1bengrubb many people feel that way. It's a difference between dying happy and feeling like your life mattered. Or dying unhappy and feeling like your life was pointless.
@@bf5250 but was it the bad things that caught up to him or was it Alita's goodness that condemned him?
The reason Alita's character works is because she's adorably innocent but also a battle-hardened warrior, the film combines this so well that you're enticed the whole duration!
I remade the Alita trailer here, enjoy! - ruclips.net/video/Xz1ZJK8Ap0c/видео.html
I thinks its just a good movie in general without forcing much or trying to make a setup for another and another .....
Murderously adorable battle waifu.
She's just nerd crack.
@@ddlcp did we watch the same movie with the ending that was entirely setup for the next one?
@@101Mant can you fit all the lotr story into one movie and make it as good or even better then the trilogy
Just should've left out the romance
This movie is honestly underrated and proves anime movies can be great
Yeah, as long as the directors respect the source material and don't want to just use the characters to tell a completely different story.
Patrick Upson
Yeah but I also think that the fans have to be willing to except certain changes like they do with comic book movies or book adaptations. Some things won’t work as well in movie form but that doesn’t mean the directors should change things just for the sake of change. So like you said they have to respect the source material
@@m.c4847 I get that it can't be 1:1 and somethings just don't translate well from animation to live action, but you look at Avatar Air Bender, Dragon Ball, Ghost In the Shell (to name a few off the top of my head) and they were awful. Awful specifically because they threw the story/world development/relationships out the window. All they kept were the characters names and a very rough idea of the plot, which they obviously didn't understand going into the movie.
Alita was the first adaptation I saw that mostly held to the main story. There were some places it could have been improved, but they did a pretty great job overall. IMHO of course.
@@GodotWorld Having the same story regurgitated to you (because that's what adaptations are--especially in a 2 hour or less time slot), is not what you want. It's not what anyone wants. Because you'll never say "It's a good movie, go out and see it"--You'll recall all the moments left out comparably and be overwhelmed that your nostalgia wasn't enlivened. Most "fans" (some are, some only claim to be for social credibility...an issue widespread these days) expects even most nuances to be preserved, and that the worth of material is how well it invokes the nostalgia of what you fell in love with (as if anyone truly remembers the fine details of what appealed to them, *years* ago). That. Is. Impossible. Any success will include fans and general audiences alike. And so...everyone loses. The newcomers don't know to understand any emphatic moments because they're nudging the fans, and the "fans" dislike the film because there isn't any or much of the same depthful moments one has to analyze and ponder (the general audience likes things to be transparent--they're not the type to scour the web for all sequels/manga/wikis and cross-reference, or in-fact, think about an action longer than it's own duration). Newcomers are generally a fickle sort, how long a filmmaker can captivate them is volatile at best. Embedding technique/manipulations are tenuously challenging unless such things are compartmentalized already in the story (Alita).
It's a balance who's golden ratio has yet to be understood; while it is so, these franchises *die* to improve the next. Do you think any filmmaker is going to 'reboot' a franchise that's already tried and failed, with chance of another adaptation of a different sort decreasing each time? Even the most faithful creators need incentive to at worst break even; one will not destroy themselves to cater to perceivably dead breeds. Ghost in the Shell - Live Action, will never receive a deserved sequel--yes it does deserve. The setting [of visuals/places/world] was flawlessly executed, the story itself was slotted well enough--The movie sufficed as a good prologue and awakened what Ghost in the Shell - Live Action could be--how Motoko got her first cybernetic body, her past self (parentage included), her fight to be free of forceful encoded tethers, her transition into her occupation. Such things were never revealed more than a few minutes of scattershot flashbacks in source. Though all such hopes to continue are voided for a time no being should wait for, had it been well received an even better movie awaited. It is much better to pleasantly critique a film of worth, at least until it's window closes. Of course, filmmakers can and likely will learn given the chance--they adapt themselves after all. Instead of such a chance it was dubbed awful even by "fans" hopeful to see more, and even over hypocritical issues such as "fans" wanting a japanese actress in place for Motoko...who, in source, uses foreign American bodies--even the intellectual proprietor's [of Ghost in the Shell] praise towards the movie, it went unnoticed and did not provide even a hint to such people. And still such hypocrisy of opinion and reasoning born of selfish internalized views are present even now, but I suppose those same masses control every success and failure--cinematic entertainment is no different.
Oh I grow *weary* of this, just as you are of reading it. Of my favorite things in life being ended before others can glean their significance, including their futures. Just. Please...be mindful of the future, of consequence, before you act or speak. Especially when such material is more tolerable than what you're willing to accept. Alice's Resident Evil film series is a best example of when material can be given a chance. Though, for material like Mass Effect Andromeda, it was about as tolerable as people think it is. Though for Final Fantasy 12...a hidden gem that was under 12 ft. of expectations in pertinence to an audience who had yet to find the handles in front of them, only due to contortions of feature; instead, we get -2 and -3 of a title of lagging value but better reception...Final Fantasy 13.
Well he respects the source material. Not perfectly but good enough for me who bought the manga. Still for someone who read the manga recently the movie has alot of flaws especially in the character(not Alita) and story department.
Im not trying to shit on the movie here dont get me wrong but i think the manga is still alot better. Its my Nr.2 favorite manga of all time so im bias here but as such a big fan of the original i still really like this movie i even watched it 2 times in cinema^^
And its way better the GitS life action movie because in this movie you have Alita and the world from the manga. In GitS well i dont know who that woman is but its not the Major and its not the same place it. And i dont blame ScarJo for it because she looks like the Major...ups i gone totaly off topic lol
Can we also talk about Dr. Ido? He isn't that much supportive at first but you can clearly see how much he cares for Alita. That kiss in the forehead when she's about to join the motorball and the concern of her new body had my heart melting. And I'm pretty sure Dr. Ido had and internal scream when Alita called him father.
I mean from a character perspective he had a daughter die already so being apprehensive about a relationship with a daughter figure is understandable
I disagree that this film doesn't have a plot. The plot is all about Alita discovering herself and trying to interact with a world she remembers nothing about. Just because there's no big external fight between hero and villain does not mean there's no plot.
Zero Flak it has little narrative, but yes has a plot... normies are expecting the narrative dictated by antagonist conflict to run the plot and that’s fair; but the character’s identity and self discovery are what’s running the plot
So true
Very agreeable, thank you.
I'm pretty sure what you're describing there are the [Story], not the [Plot]. Isn't that what he talked about in his Bumblebee video?
Itqan Madani The plot is there... Just not obvious. It may be explained in the sequel.
Manipulation? Please it's getting a sequel because James Cameron did everything right that should have been done for a Live Action Adaptation of the Anime and Manga version. The Story was pretty much already there, they just had to make it live action. Not to mention the original Anime was a Movie so it wasn't hard to transfer that story to big screen. Alita was successful for literally being the first Live Action Adaptation done right.
Kakachi07 i was also thinking about this while watching this video. this isn’t no normal story some people might see this movie as it has no plot or no story telling. well they are wrong. they are just following the story. imagine this in your mind. this is the beginning of a book at the beginning of a book it will introduce the characters introduce the relationships with the characters the environment the set and then at the end of the chapter it gives you a hint of what chapter two has
is it really getting a sequel ? i can't find any links
aaah, I see you are a man of colture as well. seriously tho well said
Give credit to Robert Rodriguez
@Xclav i know that this an old comment but I just want to say that edge of tomorow and alita are completely different type of live action adaptation. I don't consider edge of tomorow as a anime adaptation cause it only took the core concept of all you need is kill which I think is a pretty good decision.
When Filmento said, the viewer has fallen in love with Alita so head over heals that they forget about all of the problems the movie had, I thought to myself:
That´s gonna be my new life goal! Make me fall in love with myself, so no matter which problems I´ll have to face, my life will be a great one!
great way to become a narcicisstic douche.
I went down that route and I like it. 👍
This si Twilight for men
FryingPan why must you make everything negative
@@imadi9855 Well, I guess, that's what a narcisisstic douche does, when something is not about him.
@@FryingPan76 😂💯
Dude I won't lie. I fell in love with alita when I first watched the film.
@Chibuikem Ubesie The big eyes are emulation of childish qualities... young children. Think about it. Pedowood in full effect.
She always looks horny ngl
@@brando3342 There's a difference between wanting to protect something and wanting to hump it.
Puppies are cute because of their childish features and actions, even adults love puppies, but there's no sexual agenda there. It's the same for Alita. She's the daughter we wish we all had.
@@pawala7 For you maybe, not from the comments I've seen.
She is amazing
my favorite part is when Ido comes to the bar trying to stop the fight, and then use the "No more free repairs!" card... I was laughing my ass off...
And the look Allita give her father like child look quilty of something
I also loved in that scene when Zapan says, "She broke my nose!"
And Alita replies, "Yes, I did."
@@kithraya7081 oh... must have remembered it wrong... like the "Luke/no I am your father" thing...
@@punipunipyo You were right tho and he does say "no more free repairs".
and all the raging neverdowells battling it out stopped immediately as soon as he said it. :D
This is a fine essay on creating a positive emotional connection between a character and the audience. However you said that the movie lacked a plot. I think you just missed the plot: the plot isn't a Hero's Journey or even good vs. evil like most other SciFi. Alita's story isn't like Jason Bourne or "The Long Kiss Goodnight" or the thousands of other action hero stories where amnesia is used as a mystery both to add conflict to the hero and introduce the audience to the world as the character discovers it. Alita's amnesia is a device to allow her to have a Bildungsroman plot set in an action hero story.
The plot is Alita's navigation from naive child to emotionally mature adult. It isn't about conflict with Nova or Zapan or Vector or Grewishka, it's about Alita's conflict with Ido and Hugo. Ido plays the father figure whom Alita needs to overcome to become an independent emotionally mature adult, Hugo is Alita's fist love who doesn't really love her but his obsession with Zalem and her inability to save him (or make him actually love her). If you look a Alita as the major conflict that needs to be resolved is overcoming the bad guys then you are right and it is weak plot'wise, that isn't the point of her arch. In Star Wars (New Hope) Luke's maturing from an angsty immature far boy to sort of worldly adult hero is in service to the action conflict, in Alita the action conflict is in service to her growth from child to woman. If that makes any sense.
In fairness that is much clearer in the Manga where Ido has a much harder time seeing Alita as anything more than a daughter he must protect and keep this perfect innocent child and Hugo who starts out a a likable streetwise rascal fleshing out to a manipulative obsessed not stand up guy. For example, in the Manga when they're on the tube before Hugo dies he doesn't reach back to go down with Alita, rather he dies because he refuses to abandon Tiphares (Zalem in the movie). What prompts him to take off up the tube in the first place is his hatred of being a cyborg btw. Alita has to come to terms with the fact that Hugo never actually loved her. Had the 'you can take my heart' scene happened in the Manga Hugo would have taken it with promises they'd get her a new heart. His role is to teach her that first love is powerful but fleeting and not 'true love forever', that not everyone can be saved no matter how much you want it, and that obsession is a vice.
I was about to post a very similar statement, but I think you uust said it far better than I would. Well done!
Your analysis has more depth than the movie itself.
@@personanongrata921 You're just seeing the movie from a western point of view where the action is much more predominant than character development, but in japanese (and asian) culture it is often the opposite. And the whole Alita story in the manga is a search of her own self... I am glad that's what they tried to portray in this movie.
@@personanongrata921 The plot of the manga is more episodic. Like Odysseus or Gilgamesh, Alita ends up visiting many different places and has some secondary arc of discovery there, but the primary plot is always about the protagonist themselves (like other Japanese stories like Zatoichi or Lone Wolf & Cub).
The actual concerns of the places visited are always of secondary importance to the growth of the protagonist in them.
Thank you i completly agree with you here
The feeling when your only reason to be sad about hugo's death is because Alita is sad
Eh, it was intended to be a mediocre relationship anyway... representative of first attempt relationships by teenagers or something.
I laughed at his death
true only cried everytime she cried it’s no big deal or anything
That's exactly right, I was sad for her and not him... being the actual departed
exactly
I’m disappointed that I watched captain marvel in theaters instead of this, this movie was much more deserving of praise
Your forgiven 😄 you can see this movie and make you feel better, captain marvel is not good for our health
notthesameman lmaooo true indeed
Lol you hate captain marvel but spent your money and guaranteed it's 1 billion box office take lol incels confuse me
@@amightyshade Because it was a Blockbuster. Avatar sucks, but people still went on to see it. In droves. Because it had amazing media campaigns. So fuck off.
@@amightyshade First of all it's made by marvel which by that time had made infinity war own of the best movies ever plus marvel had a reputation for making good movies. Second of all it was the last movie before endgame so of course people watched it. And third you kinda had to for endgame.
"Alita single-handedly carried this move."
last time i checked, the movie title is, wait for it, ALITA!
...
Well the other characters should also pull their weight, not just the makn character
@@justasnowball yeah just like the joker, oh wait.
This si Twilight for men
@@livanbard at least they have clear motivation there. And most importantly they are natural. In Alita, almost all of the dialogues unnatural, most of their doings are unnecessary even where are they standing in scenes. That makes this movie BAD. Even the protagonist is nicely handled.
@@husionuyanick read the manga ... it's actually good - did not expect it to be so good .... i was looking for a disapointment and found a treasure
"How to manipulate the audience"
Isn't making people like the movie the whole purpose of making movies?
I think the point is the movie does it in a cheap and not very creative way
Manipulation is a method, it's a neutral word...
@@anitaremenarova6662 have you ever been to TVTropes? These things exist for a reason.
I actually like it when non horror movies make you feel unconfortable even after they're over. Specially when done for a purpose, like making you meditate in a certain topic
El Pretender Me too. If you can still sit alone in the dark after a horror....it was crap. Haha
"The movie has almost no plot"
Me (in love with Alita) : Plot?
The plot is Alita's journey of self-discovery, her past and purpose in life... Period!
Shes cute AF
ChavaAlba if i recall correctly this is only the start of alita’s story right?
Michael Aramis Just barely the beginning
Yeah,, its not even at the point where she knows shes a cyborg martial arts expert terrorist from mars yet.
"Destroy Zalem."
I read ahead in the manga.
That's not the plot, tough this movie is clearly intended as the first act of a wider story.
I was hoping someone else here knew this was based on a manga
@@sdude50 I knew it was based on a manga I've just never read it. I was really worried when I saw the trailers because I thought it would be like ghost in the shell
@@sdude50 most of the fans know it
Fun fact zalem is far too similar to zalim in turkish which means cruel/despot. The first moment I hear the city of zalem it was so clear that thing in the air is bad.
Fatih Güner According to the author (Kishiro) it was a play on the second half of “Jerusalem.” In the manga, there’s a city called “Jeru,” and another called “Zalem.”
Oddly enough, “Salem - Zalem:” “Salem” means “peace.”
Alita Battle Angel has a plot. It's just not a McGuffin plot. She not trying to find a glowing box like a Marvel or DC movie. She's not trying to save a city or catch a villan. She's trying to discover her purpose and it's very clear throughout the film that this is what she's trying to do
Sterling Daniels, Nailed it!
That's not a plot, that's character development.
@@alfredohernandez7486 Wrong. Check out Lawrence of Arabia. The whole movie is about figuring out who you are. There are many other stories where that is the plot.
@@sdaniels160 Yeah, you are right.
your IQ is probably the same as your age haha
"Protagonist who loses all his body parts except for torso and an arm but refuses to give up"
Fullmetal Alchemist: Am I a joke to you?
Also Elfen Lied. Loses both arms too, still fights on.
Anakin Skywalker: What about me!? Oh-
Robcop...
This was first though the Manga came out in 91
ALSO Dororo in a way!
It's seems like Filmento/Moviemonto just found his first waifu.
Lol accurate
Literally
There is always a waifu/hubando for everyone
that's what it is.
HHHAAAAA
I love this movie and I love Alita.
She's badass, cute, curious, friendly, she has times of fear, uncertainty, joy, depression and elation.
She's great, how can you not love her?
Alita is amazing man!
The movie is character driven and its mostly filled with character arcs leading into a bigger plot narrative. so the movie fails if you walk away not giving a care about Alita.
Well saiddd
Yep, it's sort of her origin story. The story of Alita growing up.
Agree 💯!
@Neisya Jin Hitam which is why i fully agree with the usage of the word " Manipulate" in the title. The formula is almost an exact science now. LOL
How is it possible not to care for Alita though. Rosa's performance and how lovingly she was rendered as Alita and the emotional journey she goes through it seems incredible to me that some people can't empathise and make a connection with her.
it's not manipulation, it's an Eastern Storytelling style where the story is driven by character rather than plot. It's why the "slice of life" genre exists in anime. To be brutally honest it seems to be the right direction to go, because ultimately you can still have enjoyable stories held up by characters alone, but when it's only about plot, things fall apart entirely.
Out of curiosity, do you have any extreme examples of plot driven and character driven stories?
I would like to be able to diferentiate them
@@braiansingh9730 I'm not going to claim these as extreme examples, but take something like "a silent voice" and compare it to something like "the force awakens"
@@TheTrueGlaukos thanks! I still have to watch The Force Awakens
SW: Rise of Skywalker proved that.
Yet another female warrior movie that is better at being a female warrior movie than Cap'n Marvel. Alita even has the same ability/superpower: second wind. But while Marvel is a smug (ironically) emotionless cardboard cutout of a character, Alita has actual emotions, and is (ironically) 99% robot.
Also Alita's power ramps up gradually, but even at the end in her (presumably) most powerful purpley form, she might not be strong enough to take on Zalem. After all, she wasn't able to take the city with an army of Alita soldiers. So even though she gets more powerful, and we cheer her on every step of the way, the stakes and risks are never lost.
Plank is a really complicated character so your tiny brain can't comprehend the genius behind her
I like MArvel's humor and how she is.. Guess it's my personality. Humor is a very important thing in my life so not everyone is displeased with MArvel.
They all got wiped out by the moving wheel of death, something she has learned to avoid now but obviously now it's going to be much harder since it's just her vs the entire floating city
One of Alita's charms is that she actually acts feminine. There's a delicateness to her that belies her underlying strength, and a naivete that she never really gets rid of. But she has that diminutive, and caring demeanour that a lot of the "i am woman hear me roar" characters we see so often lack.
ukkr oh wow!
Having creators that actually are supportive of dreams are so important and define a good movie.
I’m thinking of into the spider verse where I read about how the creators were really trying to inspire others to care about the dreams (I forgot like all the details) vs cap marvel pushing ‘feminism’ way to hard.
Alita is a feminist but in a more subtle way, there’s no “oh, I’ve always been discriminated against” when there’s literally no discrimination, she presents it in her own unique way. Woman are generally more emotional and despite alita being powerful, she still breaks down SEVERAL times but manages to rise to the occasion.
Into the spider verse also gave what I (being white so not accurate) feel is a more accurate feeling and where culture actually was shown. The movie didn’t even focus on discrimination but I feel is still a great role model bc the culture wasn’t advertised but it’s definitely an integral part of the story.
It’s a part of miles that plays a more hidden main part of the story bc it’s about him finding out who he is. Graffiti is the constant reputation and if he wasn’t into graffiti, he’d never even be bitten by a radioactive spider.
(Yeah, sorry for bringing this all about into the spider verse. I just love that film, if you haven’t watched it, you should. Graphics are the best part!)
I'm guessing that you reviewed the movie without ever having seen the original manga and anime works it is based on because the movie was pretty much perfect for what it was supposed to be. I don't think it could have possibly been done better and I was thrilled by every moment of it.
This movie actually got me into the Manga. And yes, i loved the little things i know about the plot. I am reading the manga and have watched this movie twice now. I am planning to see the anime too.
Now I have no clue how I missed this movie up til now so literally came into this review knowing nothing though the first big thing I noticed was "wow they really must have taken some major inspiration from Anime/Manga because of her eyes alone. In Japan large eyes signify innocence and cuteness; it's also used to help the characters show their emotions easier.
So finding it was literally based on a Manga/Anime is pretty hilarious to me 🤣🤣🤣
Well the people in charge of making the movie respected the source material so much that the writer of the manga was actively involved in it's production.
Impressive
Honestly, greatest adaptation ever made of it's kind. I relived the manga within every scene, it is that good.
She's super likeable character. I like the way she never pointing someone else if something goes messed up. She always has a solution by doing it herself no matter what
Isn’t that what people hate
Alita manipulates men in the same way Twilight manipulates teenagers girls and in the same way 50 shades of grey manipulates young women.
Making you fall in love whit the main character and you want to see more of it doesn´t mean its a good movie.
@@curtiszilla9192 no, people don't hate characters who blame themselves for their problems, people hate Mary Sue's who never have a problem or who never seem to think maybe they may have done something wrong.
@@curtiszilla9192 I think people hate Deus Ex Machinae who never fail or chars that always have fate on their side, with someone or something always saving them. It is not really the case for Alita.
Whatabout Christoph Waltz being an amazing actor? He turns every role he gets into gold!
4:17 that single scene has more emotions than the whole Captain Marvel movie. Period.
Facts
The most emotional punch I received in Alita was the scene: “Fuck your mercy.”
FACTS!
did you just insult that scene like that??
@@koopa5504 😂
The scary shit about this movie is that it's not just the movie makers manipulating the audience. The same manipulation actually occurs within the context of the movie. It's not so subtly hinted that Alita is a 100-year-old bio-engineered cyborg supersoldier from Mars. Nothing about her personality or appearance is coincidental, upon deeper inspection. She's very deliberately designed to be unwaveringly loyal to whomever she imprints on as "her side", when her memory is reset.
Honestly if this is the impression you get from the movie, then in my opinion you are reading something into it that does not exist. The Alita movie is based on a very long running manga, and this movie only covers approximately the first 2-3 volumes of a series that is currently at volume 35. If you read the manga, you will quickly realize that her personality and appearance are simply an evolution of who she has always been. The adult Alita, looks just like an older version of the young child Alita (much younger than the Alita in the movie) and barring some stuff that took place during her initial training as a child, her choices about who she is loyal to are entirely her own. To be very clear, the Alita in the manga is a person who's loyalty very much needs to be earned.
@@SectionNyne I'm working off the information given in the movie. I certainly did not get the impression that she just happens to have the personality she has and just happens to be a Martian supersoldier at the same time. To me, it just not seems like a plausible coincidence.
@@KohuGaly As I mentioned, the movie is based on the first 2-3 volumes of a manga series that is currently at volume 35 and has been running almost continuously since 1991. You could think of this movie as being the equivalent of Bilbo's birthday party at the beginning of the first Lord of the Rings movie in comparison to the entire trilogy. It's just a tiny first look into a GIANT world.
SPOILER WARNING FOR THE MANGA!
I'm assuming that if you have not read the manga by now that you have no interest in doing so.
The events of the movie, like the first few volumes of the manga, represent a reset in Alita's life. The innocent, almost naive personality she has at this time is very much the same personality she had as a child. She went through intensive training and indoctrination on Mars, which hardened her, but her innate "goodness" and sense of justice and honor prevented her from becoming one of the truly elite members of the supersoldiers. Yes, that means that the Alita you see at the time of the movie is nothing compared to the rest of the supersoldiers. She was considered the weak one on the team and was seen by many as a liability. With this reset, she basically gets a second chance to do it all over again, but this time without the interference of her Martian teachers. As the manga progresses, she eventually realizes that her honor and innate goodness was never really the weakness she was raised to think it was. In fact, the more she embraces who she really is, the better and more powerful she becomes because she is now fighting for her own reasons, instead of reasons imposed on her by someone else.
At her core, Alita is driven by a sense of honor, justice and the need to protect and help those around her. This is even stated openly in the movie when she says "I do not stand by in the presence of evil!" If you go back and look at the movie again with this in mind, you will notice that all of her actions are based on a desire to protect anyone she perceives as weaker and/or being threatened by some evil. For example, she certainly was not imprinted on that little dog when she dove into the path of the guardian to protect it. She just saw it as an innocent that was being threatened. She also physically stopped Ido when she thought he was about to ambush that woman in the alley. As the manga goes on, it becomes very evident that she almost can't help herself and needs to jump in to help when she sees something she thinks is wrong. There are even several instances of her opponents taking advantage of this in order to lure her into a fight or trap.
Once again, I will say that I think you are reading something into the movie portrayal of Alita that is just not there. So far movie Alita has been the same as manga Alita and manga Alita certainly has free will and makes her own choices. There is even a moment in the manga where she straight up says to another character, "You don't understand. You act as if I take commands. I am a cyborg, not a robot."
@@SectionNyne I just want to say that I do not agree that the manga is 35 volumes. To me, it is 9 volumes, which was then retconned to create the Last Order version of the ending of the story leading to what is now a much lengthier tale. Your point still remains though in context of the 9 volume orignal.
@@RayearthIX Well, as I understand it, Yukito Kishiro initially intended for the original manga to continue well past volume 9, however he had to end it after 9 volumes due to some health issues. He was never happy with the ending he wrote so once his health improved, he went back and as you said, retconned the ending in order to continue telling the story he originally intended to tell. If you do not like the subsequent series' then that is your choice, however it doesn't change the fact that Yukito Kishiro has so far produced 9 volumes of the the original Gunnm, 19 Volumes of Gunnm Last Order and 7 volumes of Gunnm Mars Chronicle for a total of 35 volumes telling the story of Gally/Alita/Yoko.
Again, if you do not like anything past volume 9 of the original series, that's fine, however when discussing this series with someone who is not familiar with it, we need to be clear that there are in fact a total of 35 volumes and counting.
"Aside from maybe Jesus or Keanu " WTH DIDNT SEE THAT COMING LMAO
best line I heard in a very very long time :)
I'll be waiting for that sequel wherein Alita is torn between going with Jesus or with Keanu to the prom.
I was expecting a follow up joke like "but they're the same person, so no matter"
what's the different's?
you know who deserves her more? Keanu playing Jesus!
#KeanuJesusxAlitaship lol
Ah, I see my friend has discovered the power of the "waifu". A truly powerful concept indeed.
yes he is clearly a man of culture
Kaixe Rho I was thinking this the whole time
I hate that I can't argue this
I wonder if ZeroTwo is another waifu of his. Cause when his hand reachs for the Alita screen it seems similar to the finale of Darling in the Franxx.
I had never seen such a likable character in my life :)
Buy those blu-rays, baby!
Queen Rosalita demands it 💗
Why do people like blue ray? It makes video look like a cheap infomercial.
@@SnakeWasRight
I don't even have a blu-ray player any more, but I will buy a bunch of blurays to support the movie and increase the chances for a sequel.
@@SnakeWasRight Interesting, in my experience blu-rays have a far superior picture than any digital download, and when You buy a blu-ray, You actually own it, while on digital, You only borrow it, and if a service You use loses the rights to borrow it to You, You can no longer watch it, even though You paid for it.
Make the protagonist likable with a "save the puppy" scene, literally does that.
The movie and this video essay is a showing of just how phenomenal of a job Rosa Salazar did in the role. She really doesn't get enough credit or recognition for it. She is the Title character, carries the whole film, trained to do her stunts, and to me was the best female hero character of all time. She is optimistic through her amnesia, has hope through despair and is just so much fun to watch on screen, her acting is out of this world.
Well its a manga adaptation. Rather than rushing the plot its better to have the whole story in parts.
Yyup... a longform serialized manga with a searching their calling and no clearcut external goal type protagonist.
Extremely hard to adapt to movie format, and no matter what results in unconventional pacing.
And despite not knowing the source material, that made it all the more engaging. Though after Bleach, Yuu Yuu Hakusho, Trigun and Cowboy Bebop I suspect I already conditioned myself to make this movie love at first sight.
The thing is, everything that they changed from the manga or added opened plotholes that go against other elements of the world-building.
For example, the Centaurion robots and the apparent police state clash with the idea of absolute anarchy and the need for bounty hunters. If you can have Centaurions patrolling the streets day & night, what's the point of bounty hunters?
Another example is the change of origin of Alita's first set of prosthetics and how she managed to withstand and overpower Grewishka's attacks using a child's non-combat-specific prosthetics.
Shocked this got only two stars in the UK radio times...
@@janosd4nuke Actually it was already made into an Anime movie a while back so Half of the work has been done.
@@Kakachi07 the anime share some points with the movie, but some parts of the manga are in the movie and not in the anime or vice-versa, also there are some big changes like Alita's name origin and new characters
I've never felt more personally attacked by something i completely agree with.
Just realise that, everything that tries to effect you in any shaoe or form, IS manipulation.
Like teaching a kid not to touch fire 'cuz that thing sabout hot and will hurt IS MANIPULATING A CHILD. We often use the word manipulation in a negative light, but in fact it is valid on a much broader scale.
Not so offensive once you let go of preconceived feeling and judge the statment neutrally as it is.
A crafted story inherently needs to be emotionally nanipulative to make it engaging on that level. The fact of manipulation does not exclude it being honest/sincere.
@@janosd4nuke yeah it's a joke the video explains why I and many people love Alita in a great way
@@madcowboy5700 I know, just lemme play captain obvious, overexplain, practice a foreign language, and generally be hype again abut this gem of a movie :D
And who knows, my ramblings might end up entertaining for someone in the comments
@@janosd4nuke Janos, I'm down with your manipulation and you should keep up with your cerebral manipulations.
@@janosd4nuke dude no.
teaching kid to not touch fire isnt manipulation.
its teaching.
manipulation is like just begging gf to do what you want instead what she wanted to do, most of the times its not even intended.
There is a good reason for this. It's based on a very long (and ongoing) comic. The first thing to do for a comic to succeed is to get the audience to emotionally connect with the main character. Once that is done, then you work on story/plot. You give this loved character an adventure that the reader will be glued to for the rest of the comic series.
If this movie is to be a trilogy (or longer), it would only get better and better, as the first goal has already been achieved. In contrast, Captain Marvel did not connect emotionally with hardly anyone in her first move, so a second Captain Marvel movie will likely be worse than the first one (unless they put in a lot of time to make her more likable, which would take practically the whole movie).
Watching Alita wasn't so much about wanting it to have a "critically acclaimed plot", it was more about going on an adventure with someone who is likable. That's also why it has so much rewatchability. It's a fun journey.
Trilogy first, then prequel trilogy. Mars chronicles is where everything becomes over the top. AI shoulder cannons, AI SHOULDER CANNONS!
@@Johnpinckney98 AI SHOULDER CANONS?
@@bipstymcbipste5641 I'm understating that... SENTIENT SHOULDER CANNON!
@@Johnpinckney98 wait wait, do you really mean FUCKING shoulder canons that think on their own? MORE ALITA MOVIES, GODDAMMIT
You nailed it. It's not a perfect movie but sure af I want to see more
One thing often said is "Show, don't tell." They do just that and it's effective.
Her goal: Rediscover her humanity. Her eyes: designed for interplanetary travel and combat. Her enemy: The Plutocrats, Oligarchs, and their pawns that control the solar system.
The plot was her finding herself..
True... But a plot is more of an outside force on the protagonist. Something that drives the protagonist to do stuff rather than 'this looks cool, might do that' that's not necessarily a bad thing! This movie like F said is still great. As for a plot of finding yourself, I feel a comparison to Rango would be great. A similar start where the main character starts without any real previous life, no name, no history, no personality besides wishing to be something, and yet a (n actual) plot still gets introduced later on, about halfway through. The only difference in this regard I see is that in Alita the plot gets established at the very end of the movie, to drive the sequel, rather than in the middle to drive this movie.
@@dominikrudolfettrich2556 this is false. There are three kinds. Man versus man. Man versus nature. And man versus self. This movie is a man versus self. It is her struggles within herself to find herself and who she is and her past.
@@SayviRock Very true! I tend to forget the last one, I was thinking of a more traditional plot which is what F is talking about from what I gather.
No, that's the story... A plot is the things that happens during the movie.. The story in lord of the rings, is that the ring needs to be destroyed, otherwise the world is destroyed... The plot is how Frodo is going to get it there
@@reeanimationgaming1034 no. What you said for Lord of the rings was not the story, it was the end goal
Plot- the main events of a play, novel, movie, or similar work, devised and presented by the writer as an interrelated sequence.
Story- a plot of story line
These are the detentions. The story of this movie is her finding herself.
"How to Manipulate the Audience"
Nah... They won't get me!
Alita gets her name: "Can I keep it?"
*goes to buy movie* 🤣
You know, that scene sealed it for me. I love Alita
Lhûgion
That and her love for chocolate.
I'm weak, they got me when she eat the entire orange with the skin and made the face
I freaking love this movie. She’s possibly my favourite movie character ever. It is also the only film which I’ve watched 3 times in cinemas
man they saw you coming lol 🤣🤣🤣
I saw Alita for the second time, and the points made in this film hit like a homerun.. And yes, we need more Alita movies, like, yesterday! I also need to see more of her so bad..
"Alita being the super kindest girlfriend that no man ever deserved... except for Jesus and Keanu"
Agreed!!
Wait, weren’t jesus and keanou reeves the same person?
you forgot Hitler
a big missed opportunity to put 2 identical pictures of Jesus on screen
@@Meatrockman Nice, nice.
@@mityakiselev *two identical pictures of Keanou
I think most people are aware of the issues film has, just the good outweighed the bad, well, for me anyway.
Cant outweight the costs.
Not for me
Yep, alot of other movies that came out this year had huge flaws but get overlooked...let alita breath
To be fair, its not just the animation of Alita in the movie that's so loveable... Its Rosa Salazar in general, in interviews she is the coolest, cutest, most loveable person ever!!!
I know, she is like the woman version of Keanu Reeves: down to earth. As him, she looks younger for her age.
@The Bandog that´s awesome.
1. *Anime eyes* for disney princesses.
2. Nothing to the max. *Zero to hero.* Make the most out of nothing, and start with as bad of a hand as possible. Optimism.
3. Self Under Others. *Selfless.* Put others before yourself. Save the cat. When doing bad things, do them for others, not for yourself.
4. The standing (wo)man. *Always get back up.* The standing person.
Everyone: Wonder woman touches the deepest parts of our female psyche, she's the female role model we need.
Alita: Hold my heart
Both are great. Shit on Captain Marvel, she deserves it
Ambiguous Sarcasm honestly I didn’t hate Captain Marvel because of Larson or her performance, I just felt that Captain Marvel was poorly written as both a character and a film.
which is funny because Alita never gave his heart to anyone , but she used it as a collateral for an arm wrestling contest !as i said before they butchered Alita's character so badly that it makes me happy there are no sequels coming !
Wonder woman is still way better, imo, all though this weird looking movie wasn't bad either
I remember "critics" (Read: Feminazi far leftist SJW liberal wannabe-journalists) shitting over ths movie because it was "problematic" (read: Did not agree with their viewpoint and image of a strong female lead because she did stuff for other people and was overly "sexualized"(read: She was good-looking))
I liked "Alita: Battle Angel" because:
1. She showed genuine concern for others outside of herself.
2. She expressed love.
3. She showed devotion.
4. She was selfless.
The character possessed less than nothing, yet was willing to give her physical heart to the one she loved. On top of all that, she was a badass warrior. The character never got preachy with the audience and delivered the message about class struggle and the have-and-have-nots in such a low-key way, no one even noticed; no one even cared.
I was never a reader of the manga, but I am definitely a fan of this film... and you should be too!
"Alita: Battle Angel" A story a movie about a robot that's more human than most movies you'll ever watch.
yeah but the point of the video is that they use those aspect's of her and take them to the extreme in order to trick and manipulate the viewer into not paying attention to how bad the story is written.... its okay that you like it
@@ninvusoogoar6098 , I enjoyed the bad story. I enjoyed being manipulated. I enjoy suspending disbelief. It's the reason I go to watch movies; to escape from reality.
I want to watch a giant lizard step on Tokyo for the umpteenth time. I want to watch two impossibly beautiful people find love, lose love, and find it again. And if the makers of the movie want to trick me into liking these sappy and often bad stories while not telling me I am a bad person for existing in the universe, all the better.
@@ejeckk never said you couldnt enjoy it. just saying it manipulates the audience into thinking the movie its self is good by manipulating the viewer with such an emotional triggering character like she is. there are rule's in writing, while you can bend them around into something interesting they are still there... this movie on a story level is just not there till almost the very end. which is perfectly fine, just not fine for people to claim the movie is really good. as a story being told it fails, but as a emotional rollercoaster it succeeds. you are free to love it, no one can take that from you.
@@ninvusoogoar6098 , I know my, friend. I was just riffing having a conversation. I enjoy the process of communication.
Alita is not a robot, she is a human brain living inside a robotic body. Like "Major" in Ghost in the Shell. Her "father" Ido even says it: "This is only a shell. It can be used for good or bad. That choice is up to *you* "
Dude, seriously.. how the hell is hugo supposed to deal with the cyborg ? even running isn't a solution :D
You're right. It's better to call your girlfriend to save your ass. It's not like he was a tough guy who dismembered other cyborgs to sell their parts.
Lacan Am To be fair, the other cyborgs didn’t fight back.
@Radio Kaos Absolutely. That guy was such a pussy I'm honestly shocked it was Alitas romantic interest.
@Radio Kaos I honestly have no idea to whom or to what you're responding to. I was only talking about Alitas pussy boyfriend.
@Radio Kaos Yes...but we're not talking about Alita here...
10:14
She grossly executes big cyborg at the end because she know viewers will GLADLY appreciate that move.
I got manipulated, I wanted to see it again, watch the show and read the manga
collect the toys, eat the cereal, ignite the flamethrower....
@@architectofdreams73 merchandising merchandising merchandising
The manga version of Alita is just as loveable and has better fleshed out plot / motivations due to fewer time limitations. It's SUPER good.
Sax Tiger Until THAT happens to Ido
@@happyllama1160 only matters if you stop to the first canon story. the extended one does not do THAT without a reward behind.
This is very accurate, and it's exactly why I loved the movie and the character. We need more selfless optimistic big eyed heroes like Alita.
Well I don't know if this counts but it will be small/short lived. But watch Turbo Kid 2015 (movie) oh and sorry in Advanced.
Just not from Marvel, those are awful
Critics and movie studios alike have always tried to fit films into neat, tidy boxes of easily definable characteristics that viewers can consume without it requiring them to think outside of the box, or simply think period. It makes them easy to market, sure, but it also lends itself to the stagnation that Hollywood is now buried in with rehashes, copies, and reboots from now till it's inevitable demise.
That is not to say that Alita Battle Angel is some kind of revolutionary concept, or even an original one being based on a Manga and anime. But this film does go against much of the standard trappings of current filmmaking in many ways that cause critics as well as pundits to struggle to categorize and label a film such as this, much less recognize where exactly the plot exists. Many immediately dismiss it as mindless action drivel because they are unwilling to allow themselves to be open to experiencing it on it's own merits, not seeing the forest for the trees as it were.
I'm not saying that Alita is necessarily a groundbreaking film, but in my opinion it is one of the most enjoyable and entertaining films released thusfar in 2019 at the very least because it doesn't follow the archetypes of other films per se, it definitely tries to forge it's own identity.
Just my humble opinion.
I personally think that the movie has a plot actually
It's about her finding out who she is and what her mission is
Character driven plot, exactly.
The problem is you watched this movie as a MCU superhero movie (not your fault since most have been brainwashed). The plot is simple, yet layered and absolutely brilliant. The first scene and last scene bookends the main plot of the movie, which is Alita’s journey of self discovery from being thrown out as trash in a junkyard to a warrior who knows who she is and her purpose. Everything ingeniously feeds into this main plot line. Throughout the movie, she grows in almost every way.. Physically, emotionally, in her understanding of the world she woke up in, her fighting abilities, relationships, and more.
You think the plot starts with meeting the villain, but the villains are only there to show her progress as a warrior. Everyone confuses the macro plot of the Alita universe (heroes vs villains) with the plot of the movie (Alita’s journey). It’s so unfortunate that so many people miss how great the movie was put together because of Disney’s cookiecutter superhero movies.
It’s layered because Alita deals with everything a human person faces growing up. Acceptance for who they are, finding their purpose, understanding what love is... You can dive into each one of these and see how these sub-plots affect Alita and how Alita touches almost everyone around her. That’s what makes her such a strong character. Not only because she is physically strong, but strong of heart and personality. So much so that she can heal Ido’s broken heart, save Hugo’s comprised heart, and turn Chiren’s misguided heart. It’s a story about humanity.
So much there... again, unfortunately so many people will not be able to appreciate how great of a story this actually is.
Eloquently put.
Exactly. Alita is meant to "speak" to the audience. Everyone understands Alita and her lessons of being truly human and empathetic, of being selfless and caring more about others than ourselves, sacrificing yourself for others, instead of sacrificing others for yourself. There's a big difference between a 'superhero' and a HERO, and that is Alita, she's a HERO, not an empty superhero.
YT better bump this thread up !
I add no one word to your comment, you said it all.
thank you!
Batman`s parents were murdered in an alley in front of Bruce Wayne. This immediately establishes audiences sympathy for Batman.
@Epic Rhino Films Hard to tell if you're joking. Anyways Batman is Bruce Wayne so interchanging them is fine. OP did word it a little strange though.
@@iratelion566 I thought his real name is Bruce Willis
@@iratelion566 to be fair, he wasn't batman then
@@berchyzgb4423 In that case OP's wording is perfect
"I have to see her." You're speaking my mind!
The main reason this is always going to be a movie I remember fondly is that it made me want to read Gunm/Alita and that's been one of my favourite manga franchises ever.
James Cameron made a film that conveys feelings and gives the audience a virtual world? How dare he!
Lol
But Robert Rodriguez made the movie!
@@sabalghoo it's very much Cameron's baby, he's been writing this since the 90s.
@@CP-uw4ts it's a copy of a anime beat for beat. What writing?
@@CP-uw4ts Also he left the project for Avatar sequels
This is not true... I mean, I only went 5 times to this movie, others did it 10 times, si I was clearly not manipulated in any way... oh man I can not wait for that blu ray to arrive XD
I bought it today hehehehe
The fact that the movie also doesn't lecture you about 'progressiveness' was a big advantage.
It's totally free on Show Box app, why would somebody _buy_ a blu ray?
Just 2 more days for the bluray preorder to come. I'm soo hyped!
@@JP-eu2dc and I'm so confused...
I really hope that a sequel gets made. If you didn't know, Alita is an adaptation of an Anime and Manga. It's not uncommon for an anime to spend a lot of time getting settled in a very outlandish world, getting the protagonist situated and familiar with it, and then executing a more complex plot now that the setting is understood and the protagonist is pre-developed (though with plenty of development on the road ahead).
For example, Re: Zero, a very good anime, the first few story arcs involve the protag just figuring things out and trying not to die with little emphasis on antagonists. Then, once he's situated, the anime starts to dive into more intricate and woven plot lines focused around concrete villains which the audience can now follow and the fish-out-of-water protagonist can realistically grasp as well.
I think a sequel would be awesome.
Critics have underestimated her badly
Underestimating me was your biggest
mistake. - Alita, The Battle Angel
True
As a stone cold, heartless, macho, masculine, etc...
That movie made me cry, everytime I saw it
Alitas magic, am i right?? 😅
I hate how spot on this is. I've been manipulated by a ridiculously adorable robot
Cyborg technically she has a teenage girls human brain I believe her human character was 18 or 19 when she was critically wounded in the war and her brain was used by the military to build special forces style warrior cyborgs to fight in the war after extensive training.
I hate when I get manipulated into investing into characters though proper character development and forget that it's been 2 hours and only once building blew up so far
@@MJR_heyfunny SPOILERS:
Mars chronicles shows us that she was actually a cyborg at a very young age. We actually dont know where she came from or how she was born. Muster thought she was born from Kagura's tumor thing but that proves to be wrong. Im guessing that Erica and Alita are eventually taught panzer kuntz later on in the manga and fight in the mars war which causes alita to be yeeted into space as punishment.
Revan They changed a lot of things on the movie and idk how they’re gonna make the rest of the series work. They’ve showed us in the movie that zalemites have brains, Nova lives on zalem, and nova was alive 200 years ago. those are only a few things i noticed but i’m curious to see how the next movie(s) will be, if they make any.
Personally when Alita did that whole heart scene, I couldn't help but feel that was more of a statement of her character, rather than some creepy comment about her devotion to a potential boyfriend. She's the kind of person who would give her all to others, especially those she cares about. what better illustrates that than literally offering to give someone her heart? I can see why some people see it as weird, but to be honest that scene got me a bit choked up, because for whatever reason I looked at it symbolically, not literally. It just made me want to see more of this Alita. XP A proper strong female character, who has the innocence of a child and the heart of a warrior.
P.S. From what I understand this is a film adaptation of the first part of the Manga, so I kind of get why it was a bit slow on the whole plot thing, but hey, I'd rather there be light plot, slow and good story, with the promise of an exciting sequel, than for it to be a rushed jumbled mess like that Avatar the Last airbender movie. Blech! that movie was horrible, especially if you watched the show. X< but hey, thats what happens if you try to cram a full season of good TV story telling into an hour and 43 minutes, plus a bunch of changes that make no sense.
I recommend reading the manga. The story is a bit different and it is also more fleshed out. It is still ongoing. But I should remind you it is a shounen action maybe seinen action manga, similar to dragon ball etc. Meaning the fights are sometimes tournament style and she levels up her "powers" throughout the story.
Yeah I felt like her "giving her heart" was a very human thing to do. She truly cared about the people who trusted her and was willing to give them a better life at the expense of herself.
I saw it as "Fucking teenagers... god they're dumb."
WhiteDragonCM
U didn’t look at it symbolically for no reason, it’s definitely why she did that. She’s beautifully selfless, that’s one of the things that makes the character one of my all-time favourites
Same that was the first thing I thought of when I saw that scene since it made sense since she was technically a cyborg who know absolutely nothing about how human normally act.
She's such a likeable character
I very much agree!
I loved Alita, it was a great movie, not for a second did I think I was wasting my time. There is one particular reason I love the character, and that is the honor she has. She is willing to fight for those who cant, for the greater good. No where is she selfish, as if all her negative human traits have been wiped from her character. Her character is who I would like to be like, truthful, brave, honorable and caring.
I have to disagree with your look on it's lack of a plot. The movie is about alita, and it's exactly why the movie ends so abruptly.
Agreed. Most of the story plot was on point with the Manga series..which BTW is very extensive and long...if they added more of that in the film, it not only would be too long a movie, but risks the change of newer audiences not familiar with this anime more confused and lost...
I think the use of plot is confusing. I think what he means is that there is no story driving conflict that guides the main character. Alita is living her life and ocassionally stumbles into situations she barely knows anything about. I guess it's common wisdom in films to set up a conflict early which in Alita happens in the last 10 minutes of the film.
MidnightWanderer Do the manga have fan service?
But the story of the Movie is Alitas Character Growth
id say that
But how can see grow if she's fundamentally already "flawless"?
@@annikalapudas9742 I don't remember all the details but didn't her actions basically lead to her love interest's death?
@@annikalapudas9742
She's not Flawless
She's Loved
By Hugo Who Doesnt Really know what he has and Ido But Ido sees Alita as a daughter figure Its only Though the film does she gain Character and Throughout the Manga
and In the Movie Her First Body Is Destroyed
Weakness also Comes from her Inner Conflicts
Throughout Hopefully the Sequel Likes the Manga She 0ften Wants to Return to being Idos Daughter Figure
And Has to Step Up After and 0vercome her 0wn Insecurıtys
Also Aside from having Weaknesses In this First Movie Through Her Body In the Manga She's Still Has 0bstacles to 0vercome
Just Because She's Powerful Doesnt Mean She's Flawless
Its Not Like Captain Marvel Where Even The Villains Like Her and Her Inner Conflicts Come From Men Talking Mean to Her In Flashbacks and Being the Godlike Invincible Character In Endgame
She Had 0bstacles To 0vercome In The Movie
And She Even Lost Hugo
at the End 0,f the Movıe And More Down the Line
She Lost In Thıs Movıe But She's Stıll Fıghtıng
So She Has Inner Conflicts
0uter Conflicts
Love 0nes Whos Also In Danger As Even 0ne of them Dieıng "Hugo" and His Friend Dieing Her Body Being Destroyed and Later 0n Havıng To Have More Conflicts
If your Talking about the Way She Acts Its Because She Grows As a Character
A Naive Young Girl Who's Treated Like a Daughter by a Mourning Man Who Lost His 0wn Daughter Grows Into an Actual Character Like For Example At the Start a Thing She Thinks Is Just Cool Like Motorball
Actually Becomes 0ne of Her Hobbys and a Major Plot Point of her Character
Flawless No
0verpowerd
0nly At the End But Wıth Actual Reason and Doesnt Hinder the Story Cause This First Movie Isnt About Defeating the Enemy
Its About Her Just Wanting To Live Her 0wn Life but It Forced To Fight And Thats 0nly My 0ppinion
But I Thınk Flawless Is a Stupid Argument
@@MoffatLee Me nether, but the plot summary I checked says that Hugo run off to Zalem by his own will and Alita tried to stop him. He also wouldn't have needed to be "cyborgisized" if he hadn't been wanted criminal.
Okay, I wouldn't say Alita is 100% flawless, because she is definitely naive which is because she had her memory lost, but I think she lacks interesting character flaws and is too likeable at least in this first movie which makes her boring to me. I believe she most certainly has a lot of character growth in the manga but I haven't read it and I'm judging only by this first movie.
Too bad we didnt get to see more. I wanted to see the whole Mars-Earth war too
I love space wars
If you’re still curious there is a prequel manga series Alita: Mars Chronicle all about that currently running. Also like 80% of the sequel series Alita: Last Order takes place in space. There’s a whole legendarium of Alita content if you don’t mind reading (backwards).
I've been manipulated.
Do I care?
Not really.
I'm so on board with this. Keep it coming!
Dude: I want to watch a movie with a bunch of satisfying action.
*watches John Wick - a movie with a bunch of satisfying action
Filmento: The audience was being manipulated into liking the movie John Wick.
It's not being "manipulated". It's literally what we want. We aren't being tricked into liking this movie. Who the fuck calls this manipulation @filmento.
Alita manipulates men in the same way Twilight manipulates teenagers girls and in the same way 50 shades of grey manipulates young women.
Making you fall in love whit the main character and you want to see more of it doesn´t mean its a good movie.
Sry, the film has a plot, she is discovering herself and remembering everything which she lost and
Main thing his is just introductory part ..sequel will arrive to explain it
And
I love the movie if anyone feels the same ,,,,,hit like
One of my favorite cyberpunk movies of all time
I was going to hit like until I pressed "show more" and saw the like-begging.
No casual audience would be able to prepare themselves for whats coming if a sequel does happen.
Doesn't have a cinecomic's plot where the main villain has to be defeated for whatever reason.. as you said the movie is about Alita trying to discover her past through stressful situations and combat. Also all side characters have their motivations to do what they do and say that this movie doesn't have a plot is.. stupid.
It was a leap of faith. It's sad it's not a thing.
I agree 100%! It'll be a travesty if we've seen that last of the most lovable protagonist in movie history.
"Alita single-handedly carried this movie"
huh, I see what you did there, nice one
“Fuck your mercy.” ;-)
If you look carefully at Alita's face at the end you can see than the happy days are over... and the future is going darker and Alita will go to Fallen Angel litéraly.
Well then she can fall right into my arms. Aaaaand I'll show myself to the door, thank you.
TheFourthWinchester) we all thirsty bro, you are fine
@@TheFourthWinchester haha if you want to be with Alita Fallen Angel, you must be prepare to suffer a lot, if you survive, may be you will toutch her heart. Because: static1.squarespace.com/static/5017c2ace4b01a67d6bdc30c/t/544570bde4b0e284a8f8dc3b/1413837005718/
@Upcycle Shoes ??
@Upcycle Shoes Wait what? Alita never dies.
In Hugo's defense, he fought a bit against Zapan (threw a grenade), he probably knew that he'll never win after seeing his buddy Tanji get cut in half.
But besides that, if we'll have a sequel, we're gonna have Figure four, and some old time Alita fans claim that he's an amazing bf to Alita in the manga.
#AlitaArmy
@Radio Kaos oh yeah, them too as well 😅
Most lovable hero of all time ? Of course ALITA!
100 percent agree with the end. YOU CAN HAVE ALL MY MONEY, just give me Alita...
"Aside from Jesus and maybe Keanu."
Aside from Keanu and maybe Jesus * More accurate
why alita: battle angel is a great film...
"james cameron"
how about a solid source material
The funny thing about James Cameron is he's one of the biggest assholes in Hollywood he's got more ex wives than Game of Thrones has disappointed fans.
And yet somehow, he and a few old men, managed to create the most realistic teenage love story I've ever seen.
Solid source material that was honored and not 'Ghost in the Shelled'... Still salty about that filmic abortion.
dragonball z is a solid source material but did the hollywood version of it satsify its fans? no. because of poor directorial management and execution.
Cameron knows how to tell a story. Visually and characterly
Alita is that new addiction. I'm HOOKED!
Pfp checks out
LMAO did u just watch it too?
LOL love her as well.
There's a Manga and a anime ova
I don't think the series was every popular untill this movie. It's a extreme left field super hero
101% agree
This not "manipulation". The writer wanted the audience ti identify with and root for Alita. This is just character development done very well and a great example of the art of film.
Exactly.
Writing character development as to have the audience like someone is literally manipulation. But that's true for most films I guess.
@@njux1871 It simply focuses on a thing called "a hero's journey", than external events.
ALITA BATTLE ANGEL MADE ME FALL IN LOVE WITH A FICTIONAL CHARACTER I CANT WAIT FOR ALITA 2
you should read the comics man, you'll fall in love even more
There is not going to be a second one...
@@EmyN Why not? It can happen.
@@Gadget-Walkmen It depends on the fanbase, and right now the pressure is not enough. Not many movies get a second chance
@@EmyN Well most people are supporting as it's really loved by critics.
I disagree with the "there's no plot" argument. I think the confusion comes from Western standards+general lack of awareness of the manga arcs. To me this movie is a mixture between Hollywood and Japanese styles and cliches. In regards of the plot, the plot isn't going A to B, but rather just showing the every day life of Alita, the main character, and how she passes from a naive teenage girl, to a more mature young adult that has to live with real world consequences and decide whether to make a stance or not. That's the movie arc for me, not the villain, not the plot device, but the main character arc. It starts as a girl who doesn't know who she is, and it ends as scarred young woman who knows exactly what she wants. I've seen a lot of japanese movies like that, and I don't mind it at all.
Bonus: A pefect example of the mixture is hugo-alita relationship. In the manga, Hugo doesn't care much for her, he only cares about reaching Zalem, he has a tragic past that fuels that desire, so it's mainly Alita having a teenage crush on him, a really obsessive one that even leads to intimidating him, and by the end, he ends up crazy because he can't deal with the fact he no longer has a body. Alita's next arc is all about her growing up, realizing the cute but unhealthy relationship, and finding meaning in the middle of grief and being lost. Cameron took that and made Hugo a typical western prince charming, deciding to change his life because he loves Alita, climbing to zalem not because he's mind finally broke, but because he has no other choice. And also, he doesn't even die because Nova kills him. In the manga, the defense mechanism is automatic, which means NOBODY CARED ENOUGH for the whole thing anymore than if a child or a cat tried to reach Zalem. By having Nova pressing the buttons, Cameron made it more "personal" instead of the classic "you're just a number" of most cyberpunk mangas. This mixture between 2 ways of world building and storytelling confused the hell of a lot of people that got neither the full japanese version nor the full western standard one. That being said, I love the movie, I think it's the most faithful and caring adaptation to a manga ever made to date. The amount of references and details clearly show THEY CARED.
The so sweet, strong, kind Alita... Just wait to know her complete backstory. Jason Bourne is a baby compared to her...
This si Twilight for men
Good Luck with that, i wait for that Info for, like, almost twenty years at this point.
@@TheSoundSpell or you can just ask me :)
@@pierluigidipietro8097 So you know how Mars Chronicles Ends? How intriguing.
@@TheSoundSpell no... I'm referring to the rushed finale that was scrapped later to continue with "Alita: last order". At the times the author was really sick and believed to be almost dying... so he arranged the finale inserting his main ideas for the character.
Alita is one of those movies I wish I could watch in theaters again. It was so beautifully made with fantastic visuals.
I watched this Filmento review, didn't even know about this movie, and decided to watch the film today. Pleasantly surprised!!! I had seen little movie posters here and there but it looked like a silly action movie, but boy was I wrong. It definitely needs a sequel to seal the deal!
It can't get one because you chose not to watch it in theaters.
@@arrownoir sure, it's all my fault! Because I found it on a premium streaming service instead of going to a filthy cinema.
@@estycki You have to support the arts.
You can also go to watch the source.
I’m scared what they will do with a sequel, I’m concerned they will turn it into a political statement rather than just keeping it a good movie to be a good movie
The Alita manga really starts off slow as well, so I don't blame them for having problems with the plot. Though the way they implement her backstory is pretty clever (it's not revealed until waaaayy later in the manga). Keep in mind that this movie is basically 1/9 of the whole Alita saga from the manga. 1/3 if Cameron is going to go with the main ending of the original series.
Also, manga Alita is a complete cinnamon roll.
Wait a sec. You mean we could potentially get NINE Alita movies! Don't play with me mate not with this.
@@firestorm165 Exactly :). 9 original volumes, 19 volumes in the second series and currently 5 volumes in the third (still ongoing).
@@firestorm165 unless Cameron is going with the main ending for the original series, Alita is going to be a very long franchise.
That is the best news I've heard all week
This guy gets it. We NEED to see Alita again, there is no other way!
The video in a nutshell: Filmento simping for alita for 15 minutes straight
Looks who's talking.... Sniperwolf simp
@@DarkGamerA damn
@@chingchenghanjisuperidol9933 😂
sheeeeesh
And rightly so