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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2018
- Read A New York Times Article About Black Christians Leaving Majority White Evangelical Churches Just A Few Days Before A Major Change At My Majority White Church. Here are my thoughts.
Link To Article: mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/09... 
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Unless people see racism as a sin that they need to seek cleansing from they will not progress. Too many people self-diagnose: "I am not a racist!" rather than asking God to diagnose "Search me O God..."
Thank you for your comment almost a year ago !! Sorry for the delayed response
You'll find many blacks in white churches even in the choir but not the other way around.
Wonderful video. You are truly demonstrating the act of personal reflection and tethering it to core Gospel beliefs.
Thank you. This comment was so encouraging !
If a particular House of Worship does not acknowledge or minister to a person's area of hurt or need, why would that person stay in such a House of Worship?
To love The Most High is an honor and a commandment. We should know His name (Isa 52:6). When will we honor Him with our lips?
This is relevant today. Even more reason to leave and start small group fellowship.
I disagree with you when you say that the Kingdom of Jesus Christ is diverse. I have looked in the scriptures and cannot find it a scripture which validates what you claimed. However, I can find scriptures where Christ says that he only came for the lost sheep of the House Of Israel(Matt 15:24) and acts 5:31 which says that Christ came to give repentance to Israel alone. It seems that the teachings of the Christian Church is diametrically opposed to what these scriptures are saying.
Hey Nehemiah,
I appreciate your respectful and insightful comment. I know there are well known groups that assert they are Isrealites and only Isrealites can be saved. I disagree with this position.
First, there are several verses where Jesus says that his mission is to reach the Jews. You mentioned Matthew 15:24, an encounter with a Caananite woman, which is
one such verse. Then there is his encounter with the Samaritan woman at the well in John Chapter 4. In John 4: 22 it says:
"Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews."
These and other verses are often quoted by proponents of what I'll call the "Jews Only" position in an attempt to show that Gentiles cannot be saved.
However, if we take the two verses Mattew 15:24 and John 4:22, zoom out and read what happened in each encounter from start to finish we see a different picture.
While Jesus, tells the women he is there for Israel, he still grants their requests and/or offers them the gospel. (see Matthew 15 and note verse 38, see John 4 and note verse 10, and verses 39-42)
Jesus' primary mission on earth was to reach the Jewish people. God made his convenant with Abraham, but this convenant, while making people ceremonially clean, did not make them eternally clean
(Read Hebrews 9). The convenant requiring the sacrifices of animals could not take away sin. (Read Hebrews 10). Why did God choose the Isrealites? I don't know. I suppose that something we will never know.
The best answer we have is that Abraham had faith in God and because of his faith God made a convenant with him. (Read Hebrews 11). This convenant acted as a "legal guardian"
until the arrival of the Messiah. The covenant didn't save, faith in the promise did. But the fact is, Jesus came to the earth to tell the Jews that the long awaited and promised Messiah (him) had come!
But Jesus didn't say ONLY Jews could be saved and he didn't model this in his ministry. While his focus on earth was on the Jews and we know that salvation is "of the Jews" (i.e. as a result
of the covenant made with the Jewish people), that salvation is available to ALL because it is based on FAITH not ANCESTRY. I would suggest reading Galatians, particularly Chapter 3 where Paul explains
this clearly. I want to call attention to Galations 3: 5-9 in particular but as I said I suggest the whole chapter at a minimum.
**He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.**
Many ministries have a focus and Jesus' was no different. Note the fact that Jesus never baptized anyone, never married, never had children, and never started a church or organization.
Does this mean we as Christians are forbidden from doing these things? Of course not! Jesus told his disciples to target the Jews, but never forbade them from preaching to gentiles.
In the book of Acts, several gentiles are saved and baptized by the disciples (Acts 10:44-48). Later the apostle Paul is called to focus primarily on the Gentiles, which he does.
So my response to your comment is that salvation is of the Jews but not restricted to them. Jews can be saved and Gentiles can be too.
Thanks again for watching and commenting! God bless!
Hello Sister, peace, and blessings to you and I am thankful for your response. I would like to expand on
Matthew 15:24 and say yes he did grant the wishes of the Syrophoenician woman but he never said that salvation was for her; he just healed her daughter. Salvation and healing are two different things. Also the woman at the well, the Samaritan admitted that she was an Israelite in John 4:12 by saying "our father Jacob, which gave us the well". As a matter of fact, the Samaritans were indeed Israelites proved in Isaiah 7:9. Now to address the issues of the Jews, there are 12 tribes of Israel and the Jews are part of those 12. SO at Jerusalem, the capital of JUDAH, there dwelt the JEWS of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi. There are 9 other tribes, what happened to them, SOme of them dwelt at Samaria but the others were scattered, hence Jews and Gentiles, the Jews being called the circumcision and the other 9 the uncircumcision. Those scattered Israelites were the gentiles who Christ came to save. They were called gentiles because they were involved in idolatry worshiping DIana, Queen OF Heaven etc
Hebrews 8:8-9. Explains even further These two verses can also be found in Jeremiah 31:31
I pray your day goes well. Much Love Sister.
Hello Again! Thanks for the quick response,
I disagree with separating healing and salvation when discussing Jesus' ministry. Jesus had the authority to forgive sin and did so in response to a person's faith. This is the archetype for how we are saved today: by faith. The people in the Bible, along with receiving forgiveness for their sins, also received a physical healing of their ailments. This served not only as a miracle for themselves but a sign for others so that they may see and believe.
**Matthew 5:2-5:
And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.
And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?
For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?**
Forgiveness of sins and salvation are inextricably linked. The argument that someone's sins would be forgiven but them not be saved is not persuasive. Even though Jesus healed the Caaanite woman's daughter and not her , the daughter was no more a Jew or Israelite than the mother(you are Jewish based on your mother). So the focus was the women's faith and her plea being granted in response to that faith. Not who the request directly affected.
The reason I mentioned the Samaritan woman is because though she had the ancestral link, she still would have been considered unclean and unworthy of such an encounter with the Messiah. But Jesus shows that the perception of outward cleanliness and the obsession with genealogy is not what he's concerned with.
BUT even if we say that Jesus never gave salvation to any gentiles/non-Israelites in his ministry. By the time of the early church Non-Jews/Non-Israelites are receiving the Holy Spirit. We know that an unsaved person cannot receive the Holy Spirit and yet one of the first people to be saved is a Roman (a non-Israelite) (Acts 10)
The subject of the "lost" tribes of Israel is interesting but not relevant to the question of who can be saved.
This is because whether you are a "true" Jew , a half Jew (Samaritan), or not a Jew at all, you are saved by Grace through faith and not by ancestry. That is what Paul tells the Romans and Galatians. There is no hierarchy of Gentiles provided. No special salvation given to a Samaritan versus a Greek. Rather, ancestry is REMOVED as a criterion of salvation completely. Just as making animal sacrifices and other portions of the law are removed as requirements.
Jesus' focus during his earthly life ministry doesn't serve as an exclusion of other groups from the gift of salvation. The good news saves EVERYONE who believes the Jew FIRST and ALSO the Gentile(Romans 1:16).
***Romans 1:13-16:
Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.
I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.
So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.***
So Who is a Gentile? It is not only a person who is half Jewish. It not just a "lost" Jew who may not know their heritage. The Greek word used for Gentile is any pagan. Any person not worshipping the true God. Romans and Greeks were included in this term and were members of the early church. Paul writes letters to churches instructing them not to fall for the teaching that they have to be Jewish to be saved. They don't have to be circumcised. Or participate in ceremonial laws. They don't need to be a descendant of Abraham.
So if anyone believes them self to be a member of a "lost tribe of Israel" , that's fine. But you don't have to be ! Salvation is of the Jews (through the promise made to Abraham) but not restricted to them. That is the good news.
Thanks Nehemiah! :D
Different Nations,means diverse.Different tribes might also be a clue and even seeing that we are diverse now might make you realize that our ancestors also had to be different.
😂😂😂Yes he is the God of Israel dueteronomy 7:6 we are his chosen people above all people.
What do you think about the praise and worship experience in predominantly white church vs. black church?
I understand that both church”s are worshipping the same God, however I prefer the black church style of music and worship experience
Wow, I don't know if I can fully express my views on this within this comment section lol I love Gospel music and in particular the old songs that Our grandmother's would sing . I like some new gospel too. but as I grew to see worship as something that wasn't for my benefit and was thirsting for the truth, the music no longer was enough at the churches I was going to.
At PWCHURCHES you will have to use to Contemporary Christian Music (CCM). To date I've never seen them perform gospel (probably because many of the perform literally can't sing it !!! Lol no shade I love us for real) . But I can say this grew me in my faith because I was no longer focused on "liking" the music but focused on the lyrics and worshipping. I hope that makes sense.
I think white Christians who aren't used to gospel or don't particularly like it should do the same. They should Begin going to a theologically sound church with a different "style". I think we all need to learn to focus on God and not our preferences.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Well I hope everyone who attends church focuses on God, isn’t that the point? lol hearing preferred music is just an added bonus 🙌🏾😀... I come from a church where claps and foot stomps was enough lol
Keep the videos coming, they are thought provoking 👍🏾
Awesome
The. Church is clearly not filled with Christ's Spirit. This is true on both sides. His Spirit would unite us beyond our culture. Real Christian's want to be around those that live Christ and not just talk it!!
Jesus was not white He was a Jew, which means He looked like an Arab, because Arabs are the brothers and cousins of the Jews. What matters most is the message. The message of the bible is spiritual and vital for understanding different circumstances in this life.
As a white guy..my story is the same, but instead of BLK Baptist replace it with white Catholic church. **Not all maj white Catholic is bad** Now I am in a sound biblical church like the smart pretty women in the video.
Here is the thing. I am realizing though we both are in the minority though with our biblical churches
Matthew 7:13-14
Hey Robert! Thank you for your comment! And I agree. Many churches are struggling to break away from *TRADITION* and move towards applying Jesus' teaching. Sadly, because of this, Many churches are not serving their communities as they could be. I apologize for the salted response but thanks for watching . 🤗
Christianity is mythology
Talking snakes magic trees virgin birth zombies , donkey talking , god walking in the garden 😳