He's a low end character but he's still a mishima which means that,if the pilot is good,the character will perform good. I think momo dog explained it the best but even I think that most of it comes down to who's playing DVJ.
King over here looking like he just got back from Vegas after visiting his personal casino, ready to RKO the next guy that looks at him funny. (Which happened to be the devil.)
DVJ is low tier. He is a Mishima without good mids - this alone should tell you everything you need to know about his risky 50/50. On top of that, his frames are mid, and half his damage is grey health. Lack of + frames doesn't help him either. And to those claiming that his db1+2 solves all of his problems - it's just a basic wall pressure tool, all other characters have wall pressure tools.
low tier, but but not bad, or unplayable like subpar mishima players like to make it seem. you pay for having your stuff blocked/ducked, oh well🤷🏽 think of this gimmicky unorthodox dvj as reparations for the multitude of years your character has been the king of mishima style. the current gimmicks work very effectively in ft2 setting, and you pay when they dont. it's that simple😂
as long as he has a functioning hellsweep and electric, all he needs is A mid, doesnt matter what kind. sure he can be low tier, but he's still solid because everyone in this game is strong enough to be viable. yall act like he cant still go ham lol🤷🏽 it's just like with any other char, you just gotta git gud.
The issue with Dvj is that he has lost his customization. Give me my white wings and option to remove horns. And give back the different color electrics back plz Bandi 🙏
Dvj is one of the most inconsistent, nerfed, characters in the game. You need top tier defense and execution to keep up with the best if the best in this game.
Being good with devil jin requires a lot of match-up knowledge. Character can only be played by a solid player, his tool are strong but require stressful timing to use consistently at higher ranks.
@@IAmAwsomeO1how does steve have even close to the worst mixup? I think lee by far has the worst, he gains nothing from heat except free frame perfects which are useless and just drain heat meter
Deviljin is not for everyone, He's in a bad phase right now due to the nerfs, but if the Manco devs fix him, we could see Deviljin winning tournaments again and maybe Knee would pick him up again to compete etc. 😂
"whats wrong with this char" and through all the matches i just see the poor devil jin gettin fucked over and over by his rage art or combo whiffin cause the game said so lmao
best lee in the world and many other players agree that, even if you consider him "low tier", he isnt a bad character because everyone in the game is strong enough to be viable at a high level, ESP in a ft2 setting. any char with a functional electric and hellsweep will never be "weak" like these dudes think he is😂
@@sakashimayokoshimahapofusagarithe "all you need is electric and hellsweep" argument was debunked when angel was trash in tag 2. Dvj lows and pokes are still underwhelming but he isn't unplayable.... which is all that can be said.
you been clapping him hard on stream a week ago or somth don't act like he didn't just adapt to your gameplan / style , it's never about the character it's about the player don't act like it's devil jin in comparison to kazuya or anyother character isn't inferior cus his heatsmash goes into ( mixup) it doesn't btw
Majin bro I love you but if you genuinely believe that DJ isn’t complete and utter garbage tier I IMPLORE you to go watch momo’s latest video and reconsider. When even the loyalists are dropping him, it’s really f’n bad bro. Where is any Devil Jin tournament representation? Nobody not even qudans wants to play him anymore especially not competitively.
I dont think devil jin is necessarily weak, the problem is he requires high amount of skill to bring out his potential compared to many other characters
he has the normal mishima stuff going for him and his charge move at the wall but his mishima stuff is the worst out of all of them on top of his other buttons just being risky and all that on top of being one of the hardest characters it just feels bad and dont forget he leaves people with so much gray health and no way to remove it except rage art
@@Tachyon10007 you gonna call the top tier pros (context video by rangchu surveying top tekken players about top and bottom 5 characters) that put him on the 3rd most voted bottom 5 char only losing to panda & asuka low tier player? Question is are you even a DJ player?
to answer your question, there's not as many issues as people make it out to be. he's definetly a solid character they just want dvj to be objectively OP again like he historically has been lol. they just want that day 1 dvj back👎🏽
with everything that has been found out, devil jin was kinda overrated on release. Many said he was top 5 but that wasnt true at all given the other stuff characters had and what was found out about them. Yoshi having crazy range on his flash? Lili? Law? DVj was for sure top tier on release, but those chars were def better.
@@PyroInferno110 top tier on release means nothing in FG...once people learn how to play the game, then the opinions begin to be more relevant. Grey health along with constant nerfs to him as opposed to the opposite to others, contributed to the current overview of dvj being one of the worst. With that being said, I think the devs intended for this to be the case due to how his tool kit in the past worked without a system like how heat was on release.
@@PyroInferno110the character isnt weak and even if you want to argue he's bottom tier it doesnt matter as much as you might think it does bc everyone in the game is viable. think of the current dvj and the end of t7 dvj as reparations for how broken he's been in almost all his incarnations. i dont even think he was top 5 on release but was he stupid and streamlined? absolutely.
@@OctopusH2Oand he's still not weak. if youre struggling with the character, it's just like with any other character🤷🏽 you just gotta git gud. any character with a functioning hellsweep mix and an electric will never be as weak as you dudes like to make it seem. decent mishima fundies and a good sense of timing for when to do cheesy shit like b3 will take you far. dvj just went from being the fundamentally strongest mishima, to being the most unorthodox mishima. make it work or dont play him bc he isnt unplayable lol
HE IS NOT WEAK, DVJ MAINS JUST TRYING TO POWER CREEP HIM WHILE WE ALL FOCUS ON THE TOP 5. TELL ME GUYS WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD AN EASY GAME AGAINST DVJ...NEVER!!
@@OutbreakPerfectDvJ Just because a character is not in tournaments doesn’t mean they are trash, this is how power creep starts. Also Qudans is past his prime and is still doing pretty good with him. You don’t expect him to beat all these other players in their prime and also the game hasn’t been out for a year and ppl downplay him and other characters like asuka and jun which imo are very strong
11:15 no way we just skipping over this
nah it was fucking disgusting
That was CRAZY!
nah fr he acted like it didn't happen lmao
@@courtvisions2on me man! Majin unintentionally so funny sometimes 🤣
He's a low end character but he's still a mishima which means that,if the pilot is good,the character will perform good. I think momo dog explained it the best but even I think that most of it comes down to who's playing DVJ.
He also stated how frustrating it is to play against skilled players after playing kaz or jin
King over here looking like he just got back from Vegas after visiting his personal casino, ready to RKO the next guy that looks at him funny. (Which happened to be the devil.)
ironic considering both kings are some of the nicest people in the the series
the funny
been watching this guy for 6 years now, 29:12 is the closest I've seen him to being angry
Meanwhile that LTG loser gets mad at people for not being training dummies 😂
DVJ is low tier. He is a Mishima without good mids - this alone should tell you everything you need to know about his risky 50/50. On top of that, his frames are mid, and half his damage is grey health. Lack of + frames doesn't help him either.
And to those claiming that his db1+2 solves all of his problems - it's just a basic wall pressure tool, all other characters have wall pressure tools.
Everywhere I look people say he is the worst in the game. Idk how that can be when he does Reina combo damage with under half the execution.
@@noobslayer1196 Reina damage with half execution? Can you point to a combo like that? I'd love to learn it. Thanks.
low tier, but but not bad, or unplayable like subpar mishima players like to make it seem. you pay for having your stuff blocked/ducked, oh well🤷🏽 think of this gimmicky unorthodox dvj as reparations for the multitude of years your character has been the king of mishima style. the current gimmicks work very effectively in ft2 setting, and you pay when they dont. it's that simple😂
as long as he has a functioning hellsweep and electric, all he needs is A mid, doesnt matter what kind. sure he can be low tier, but he's still solid because everyone in this game is strong enough to be viable. yall act like he cant still go ham lol🤷🏽 it's just like with any other char, you just gotta git gud.
@@sakashimayokoshimahapofusagari All I claimed is that he is low tier. You seem to agree, but thanks for the long paragraphs I guess 👍
The issue with Dvj is that he has lost his customization. Give me my white wings and option to remove horns. And give back the different color electrics back plz Bandi 🙏
Don't forget we had the ability to change our lasers color at one point as well.
S/O to everyone still playing this game. It’s fallen completely out of rotation for me. Always fun to watch though.
Gotta come back my friend! I think that the game will continue to improve.
Loving the Right side content, I’m a right side main, can’t stand the left but I’m also trying to get better on my opposite side.
Dvj is one of the most inconsistent, nerfed, characters in the game. You need top tier defense and execution to keep up with the best if the best in this game.
bro look at the description majin a washed up pro lmao
King dressed like a Pimp named Slick Back
Being good with devil jin requires a lot of match-up knowledge. Character can only be played by a solid player, his tool are strong but require stressful timing to use consistently at higher ranks.
T8 has given characters all over the board loads of tools, especially when in heat. Dvj and Steve have the worst heat IMO
@@IAmAwsomeO1how does steve have even close to the worst mixup? I think lee by far has the worst, he gains nothing from heat except free frame perfects which are useless and just drain heat meter
1:59 how did that combo not kill? Devil Jin requires too much work in order to get average damage, and that kinda sucks.
its because Majin jumped + balcony break which scales the damage heavily. Doesnt just happen with devil jin there
we skeet again!
How do u play so effortlessly, I swear I haven’t even seen u flinch while playing once
Probably because he’s been playing for 20+ years it’s 2nd nature atp
Man he just plays significantly better. Amount effort he put in the play is uncomparable to reward he gets.
Great matches! Do you think you'll ever get Lars to GoD? I definitely think you can bro 💯
I'm planning on it. I think I can do it too!
@@lilmajin and DevilJin? To GoD !! 🥵
Deviljin is not for everyone, He's in a bad phase right now due to the nerfs, but if the Manco devs fix him, we could see Deviljin winning tournaments again and maybe Knee would pick him up again to compete etc. 😂
"whats wrong with this char" and through all the matches i just see the poor devil jin gettin fucked over and over by his rage art or combo whiffin cause the game said so lmao
Lil Majin doing more parries, I'm all for it
Love your side steps bro 💪
He is low tier...yall trying to say he not cause yall fear he gonna get buffed
best lee in the world and many other players agree that, even if you consider him "low tier", he isnt a bad character because everyone in the game is strong enough to be viable at a high level, ESP in a ft2 setting. any char with a functional electric and hellsweep will never be "weak" like these dudes think he is😂
@@sakashimayokoshimahapofusagarithe "all you need is electric and hellsweep" argument was debunked when angel was trash in tag 2. Dvj lows and pokes are still underwhelming but he isn't unplayable.... which is all that can be said.
consistent majin ✅👍🏾
Step 1: Be InVaines
Step 2: ???
😂
In the hands of a good player, Devil Jin doesn't look a weak character
You keep spamming the same comment in different channels bro😭
In the hands of a good player, any character can be good
There’s just no reason to pick him if you’re into Mishima gameplay. He is the weakest of the now 5, but still super strong imo.
@@heisseethingbut what if u like chains and red lasers?
you been clapping him hard on stream a week ago or somth don't act like he didn't just adapt to your gameplan / style , it's never about the character it's about the player don't act like it's devil jin in comparison to kazuya or anyother character isn't inferior cus his heatsmash goes into ( mixup) it doesn't btw
I'm wondering if qudans should change up
Majin I just hit blue rank with King this is my first tekken game thank you for letting me steal all your tech 😂😂
I think the issues are more bugs than actually gameplay. DVJ is a bug fix patch away from being fine lol
I just fought him recently!
devil jin is good for FT2 sets, people need to stop the downplay
That was very entertaining to watch. Thanks for sharing 🫵
If you think vaines makes DVJ look good you don’t wanna fight qudans or momo. They make DVJ look GODLY.
My take is just that people are so used to dvj having status as a top character that making him a mid "tier" character means he's weak.
He’s not even mid tier
Random question. The mexican suit how do u get it all white??
11:09 WHAT A FREAKING GAWD LIKE ROUND WOW
They cooked heavy.
Is devil Jin’s side step+ triangle any good?
oh hail nah it's launchable
Dvj is good if opponent donno how to deal with mishima or dvj stuff
Hey lil majin. Try fighting momo thst should be interesting
Hello Majin, which controller do you use?
Ps5
@@progste Ps5 default controller? nice!
Watch him play tekken7 at EVO; He's using a PS4 controller back there
Nowdays he uses the PS5 controller
If I versed this D.Jin player I would lose 3 rounds all the time im no where near this level 😂😫😫😫
Tekken 8 demo, devil jin has moves that are deleted in full game.
Mourning crow ruined devil jin moveset, f,3 could been uf, 3+4
Can’t be mid tier if you don’t even have a good mid…
First, someone help me out of fujin I feel like I’m getting beat a lot by people bc I don’t know match up especially lily man
You just have to take those losses until you gain the match up knowledge
Majin bro I love you but if you genuinely believe that DJ isn’t complete and utter garbage tier I IMPLORE you to go watch momo’s latest video and reconsider. When even the loyalists are dropping him, it’s really f’n bad bro. Where is any Devil Jin tournament representation? Nobody not even qudans wants to play him anymore especially not competitively.
why is jin considered weak?
jin isnt considered weak
@@wyzin5865he is?
@@itsmemogul889 devil jin is... normal jin is not considered weak bro. 💀
@@itsmemogul889 dude devil jin. Not Jin. DEVIL JIN, two completely different characters
Jin is a top 5 character
the devil jin is not low tier but the guy who play it is pretty medium
i get so happy when i see an ew lil majin vid keep it up plz for me
Ngl that devil Jin is not good at all 😂
💪🦁👍
Yeah this guy to stronge with use devil jin
You can say Devil Jin is not low tier just for an interesting video title. But in fact he is low tier
Absolutely not low tier.
Definitely low tier
@@Hachijo3GSno
@@noobslayer1196he wouldn't be low tier if his moves worked as intended
@@lilmajinthen who is?
I dont think devil jin is necessarily weak, the problem is he requires high amount of skill to bring out his potential compared to many other characters
he has the normal mishima stuff going for him and his charge move at the wall but his mishima stuff is the worst out of all of them on top of his other buttons just being risky and all that on top of being one of the hardest characters it just feels bad and dont forget he leaves people with so much gray health and no way to remove it except rage art
You play deviljin ? So tell me why the best dev.jin player USA loose to Lilmajin?
the only low tier thing with D.J is his players that cries instead of practice
@@Tachyon10007 you gonna call the top tier pros (context video by rangchu surveying top tekken players about top and bottom 5 characters) that put him on the 3rd most voted bottom 5 char only losing to panda & asuka low tier player? Question is are you even a DJ player?
@@dohnaseeknotice you never got a reply that's because they couldn't substantiate their argument they just made a blanket statement.
to answer your question, there's not as many issues as people make it out to be. he's definetly a solid character they just want dvj to be objectively OP again like he historically has been lol. they just want that day 1 dvj back👎🏽
with everything that has been found out, devil jin was kinda overrated on release. Many said he was top 5 but that wasnt true at all given the other stuff characters had and what was found out about them. Yoshi having crazy range on his flash? Lili? Law? DVj was for sure top tier on release, but those chars were def better.
@@PyroInferno110 top tier on release means nothing in FG...once people learn how to play the game, then the opinions begin to be more relevant. Grey health along with constant nerfs to him as opposed to the opposite to others, contributed to the current overview of dvj being one of the worst. With that being said, I think the devs intended for this to be the case due to how his tool kit in the past worked without a system like how heat was on release.
His best poke is cd4 wich is ridiculous to say the least
@@PyroInferno110the character isnt weak and even if you want to argue he's bottom tier it doesnt matter as much as you might think it does bc everyone in the game is viable. think of the current dvj and the end of t7 dvj as reparations for how broken he's been in almost all his incarnations. i dont even think he was top 5 on release but was he stupid and streamlined? absolutely.
@@OctopusH2Oand he's still not weak. if youre struggling with the character, it's just like with any other character🤷🏽 you just gotta git gud. any character with a functioning hellsweep mix and an electric will never be as weak as you dudes like to make it seem. decent mishima fundies and a good sense of timing for when to do cheesy shit like b3 will take you far. dvj just went from being the fundamentally strongest mishima, to being the most unorthodox mishima. make it work or dont play him bc he isnt unplayable lol
2nd gang
Devil Jin low tier ??? Never in a million years 🤣
Despite having electric , hellsweep, throw for every break, etc. His core tekken mechanic are butchered, worse pokes in the game
HE IS NOT WEAK, DVJ MAINS JUST TRYING TO POWER CREEP HIM WHILE WE ALL FOCUS ON THE TOP 5. TELL ME GUYS WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD AN EASY GAME AGAINST DVJ...NEVER!!
Fr
Dvj is very bad
For casual game and rank ok, but in tournaments dvjin don't have a chance 😢 ,see Qudans last event ?
@@OutbreakPerfectDvJ my boi qudans loyal to the end
@@OutbreakPerfectDvJ Just because a character is not in tournaments doesn’t mean they are trash, this is how power creep starts. Also Qudans is past his prime and is still doing pretty good with him. You don’t expect him to beat all these other players in their prime and also the game hasn’t been out for a year and ppl downplay him and other characters like asuka and jun which imo are very strong
Devil Jin is literal garbage, compared to any other mishima or character.