Yeah, I really hope things go well. But I am kinda worried about price and reliability going forward. I guess we'll just have to see and be optimistic.
@@sizanogreen9900 I'm not too worried about reliability. The Ariane programs have been excellent in past. Neither am I worried about price. A6 will be expensive. I don't see a way around that.
@@debott4538 Let me re-phrase that. I am worried about reliability as, yes the Ariane program was very reliable in the past, but that was after ironing out stuff in the beginning which I suspect will still be some time before this process is finished with the other program. I am worried about cost, because it would be a lot better if we had something cheaper and especially re-useable. In essence, I am kinda concerned that we are falling behind. Regardless the new Ariane is definitly a good step forwards, especially if things go well.
Yup, and considering the EU also pays for this, it's flag should be on there. As well, those countries that aren't paying directly are paying via that. You Europeans also should invest in crew capsules, you had one in design with Airbus and then it was cancelled. These things are not trivial and should have continued development. Now you lot are way behind.
@@DehnusNorder As a European, I'd like to disagree with that. This is probably a hypocritizal stance, but I am proud that both the EU and ESA are humble enough to not subject themseleves any kind of nationalistic pathos or narrative, or to measure ourselves against any other region on Earth. Especially human space flight is incredibly resource intensive with very little practical use in return, aside from national prestige. I think we Europeans are very happy to cooperate and fly with international space programs for as long as they would like to have us. Multinational cooperation is our own secret strength after all. :) That's not to say that an independent European human space program would be anything but awesome! :D
Very cool ESA! When will it launch im wondering... I hope you're having a vety perfect day! ❤🎉 Imagine meeting someone who works at ESA though! Must be rare and very cool :)
I hope all goes well with this first launch of the Ariane 6 but ESA and Arianespace should really accelerate the development of reusable rockets. Falcon 9 is launching two times a week regularily and it's boosters are being reused already 20 times. And when I look at the Starship development I really have a bad feeling seeing us Europeans develop an old space expendable rocket. Still good luck with the first launch!
That's the difference between commercial (SpaceX) and traditional (NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, ...). With commercial there is a lot of room for error during the test flights (trial and error). With traditional, everything has to be right the first time, because the state invests. On the other hand, traditional space programs are often more innovative, more science-oriented, where commercial rockets are for profit.
ESA have said that a reusable rocket will not be cheaper, it needs a lot of flights to be that (i.e. commercial), though they are working on that also of course
Ariane is designed to be used at maximum payload most of the time, if you want to land your booster/first stage back on Earth you lose a great part of your payload mass capacity which can not be afford for most science mission. PS: currently the (two only) rockets able to be reused are Falcon 9 and Falcon heavy. Falcon heavy GTO capacity is only 8T if you land your boosters and first stage (10T if you only land your boosters) where the first version of Ariane 6.4 is 11.5T (and probably 2T more for v2). As long as there is no rocket able to bring 11.5T and land back on Earth, Ariane won't be a rocket from the past. (in case you're wondering where I found these data it's on wikipedia)
@nako9790 I agree. Still, reusable boosters seem to useful. That is the reason, reusable boosters for Ariane are in development. Reusing the central stage or even the upper stage seems to be a waste of money and resources.
Ariane 6's launch will be a huge relief after years of waiting. Europe needs this independent access to space. Go ESA! ❤🚀
Yeah, I really hope things go well. But I am kinda worried about price and reliability going forward. I guess we'll just have to see and be optimistic.
@@sizanogreen9900 I'm not too worried about reliability. The Ariane programs have been excellent in past.
Neither am I worried about price. A6 will be expensive. I don't see a way around that.
@@debott4538 Let me re-phrase that. I am worried about reliability as, yes the Ariane program was very reliable in the past, but that was after ironing out stuff in the beginning which I suspect will still be some time before this process is finished with the other program. I am worried about cost, because it would be a lot better if we had something cheaper and especially re-useable. In essence, I am kinda concerned that we are falling behind. Regardless the new Ariane is definitly a good step forwards, especially if things go well.
Yup, and considering the EU also pays for this, it's flag should be on there. As well, those countries that aren't paying directly are paying via that. You Europeans also should invest in crew capsules, you had one in design with Airbus and then it was cancelled. These things are not trivial and should have continued development. Now you lot are way behind.
@@DehnusNorder As a European, I'd like to disagree with that.
This is probably a hypocritizal stance, but I am proud that both the EU and ESA are humble enough to not subject themseleves any kind of nationalistic pathos or narrative, or to measure ourselves against any other region on Earth. Especially human space flight is incredibly resource intensive with very little practical use in return, aside from national prestige.
I think we Europeans are very happy to cooperate and fly with international space programs for as long as they would like to have us. Multinational cooperation is our own secret strength after all. :)
That's not to say that an independent European human space program would be anything but awesome! :D
One of the few things which let me dream of a bright future...
Safe Flight and Godspeed Ariane 6!
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GO ARIANE 6!!!!!
Very cool ESA! When will it launch im wondering...
I hope you're having a vety perfect day! ❤🎉 Imagine meeting someone who works at ESA though! Must be rare and very cool :)
It will launch as soon as this summer... 🚀😉
Awesomeness!!🙌
Ariane 5 production should have continued until Ariane 6 takes the baton, imo.
Good luck!
Magnificent 🤗🥰
Safe flight A6!
A Release Note so we can see what changed from v5?
Very interesting. I'm watching it now, doing pressure checks. 😊
Finally!
I hope all goes well with this first launch of the Ariane 6 but ESA and Arianespace should really accelerate the development of reusable rockets. Falcon 9 is launching two times a week regularily and it's boosters are being reused already 20 times. And when I look at the Starship development I really have a bad feeling seeing us Europeans develop an old space expendable rocket. Still good luck with the first launch!
That's the difference between commercial (SpaceX) and traditional (NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, ...). With commercial there is a lot of room for error during the test flights (trial and error). With traditional, everything has to be right the first time, because the state invests. On the other hand, traditional space programs are often more innovative, more science-oriented, where commercial rockets are for profit.
We are actively working on several other projects. Please watch this video to learn more about them: ruclips.net/video/FAr_8cNL1nk/видео.html
ESA have said that a reusable rocket will not be cheaper, it needs a lot of flights to be that (i.e. commercial), though they are working on that also of course
@@EuropeanSpaceAgency That video is really a positive outlook for us Europeans, thank you very much for the link!
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Too bad it's fully expendable. Yet another launcher from the past
We in Europe are very proud of past achievements. My home town still celebrates a sports guy from 1920s. It’s … weird.
Ariane is designed to be used at maximum payload most of the time, if you want to land your booster/first stage back on Earth you lose a great part of your payload mass capacity which can not be afford for most science mission.
PS: currently the (two only) rockets able to be reused are Falcon 9 and Falcon heavy. Falcon heavy GTO capacity is only 8T if you land your boosters and first stage (10T if you only land your boosters) where the first version of Ariane 6.4 is 11.5T (and probably 2T more for v2). As long as there is no rocket able to bring 11.5T and land back on Earth, Ariane won't be a rocket from the past. (in case you're wondering where I found these data it's on wikipedia)
@@nako9790 Yeah - at the flight profiles that it is planned for, reuse isn't of much help
@nako9790 I agree.
Still, reusable boosters seem to useful. That is the reason, reusable boosters for Ariane are in development. Reusing the central stage or even the upper stage seems to be a waste of money and resources.
@@nako9790Yoo what is happening with Eumetsat???
Dommage que sa va être un désastre ...
Why do you believe so?
Ohh edgy. I expect it took you hours to think of that.
As always, someone will go "me not likey, it will boom"