As a former Roosevelt Island Red Bus Operator, they don't need to order more units. They have a total of seven buses, they run five during the AM Rush Hour, between four and five for the PM Rush Hour, maybe six depending on availability, and two or three on the weekend. Plus, if you have ever been to Roosevelt Island, they don't have a lot of room to store a lot of 40-foot buses at their garage/warehouse.
@@YoungNYCSubwayFan as someone who lives in New York from Queens you know what you’re talking about brother I wouldn’t understand why a small island that Bailey anyone lives on a go on with need more buses now I will leave it up to the MTA.
XDE60’s would be interesting; however no depot the MTA holds would be able to maintain them and actually needs that extra capacity. Bee-Line however operates them, and that’s about as close as you can get. As for 2025 XD60’s, we actually are in the process of getting those manufactured by New Flyer. First though, we’re getting XE60 NG buses.
I’m surprised they didn’t opt to buy Electric or Diesel Electric Buses instead given the shorter route and the amount of money saved in maintenance and fuel!!! 🤷♂️. Electric buses would need periodic maintenance as well but not as much than diesel buses.
Actually, it costs less to buy diesel fueled buses because they already know how to maintain them, and don't have to learn how to maintain batteries or purchase battery chargers. which they would have to install and pay extra for. Diesel buses actually don't need much maintenance compared to electric buses, either. It was much more cost effective to buy diesel buses again, even though not ideal for emissions. If you noticed the size of the exhaust though, these have very low emissions.
@@MotifAviation Actually the MTA’s newest XD40’s have the same roofline as an XDE40 or early XE40. It’s the full length version of this one, which is the default roofline that comes on XD40’s. RIOC didn’t purchase these buses with that much in mind, they just needed new buses. So they basically purchased them almost exactly like their 2018 XD40’s, barely anything changed.
Unlike XD40S XHE40/XN40 haves a bigger more thicker roofline, even an NFI 2024 XD40S roofline are slimmer of that of a XN40/XHE40, due to the CNG usage. @@Emperor_NYC
Call me crazy, but they don’t seem any different to me, apart from the similar CTtransit like interior style, with khaki/beige walls instead of black like MTA XD40s. Could you possibly explain the differences for me?
They're very bare bones Xcelsiors - the flooring is the standard smooth type of floor with the brighter yellow steps, unlike what the MTA has which is darker. The seats are American Seating InSight Prime's with no inserts, so they're entirely just grey. The poles with the exception of the one at the very front and near the rear doors are silver. One of RIOC's classic features is the stop request being white/light red when lit up then black and then bright vibrant red when lit up. Engine/transmission specs are virtually identical to the MTA's 2024 XD40's, and the exterior spec is pretty much exactly like an MTA 2024 unit except for the short roofline, Xcelsior/New Flyer name plates, and yellow door handles. CTtransit has cushioned seats that are blue with bigger taillights and rear indicators. Both the MTA and CTT have blindspot lights next to the front wheels, while RIOC does not. License plate front placements are also like CTT's on RIOC. The signage is Hanover Monochrome in its standard font, which is something neither the MTA or CTT use/buy anymore. Hope this helped.
@@railfannerjs6308also, unlike the 2020-2024 units, they bring back alot of the 2019 XD40s features, SOME units as in propulsion that sounds like that of an XN40/C40LF, and smaller headlines, as well as a noticeable font change from sans serif to a more pixilated font chnage
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They should order a few more units to expand the fleet. Its good to have a larger fleet to swap out buses.
As a former Roosevelt Island Red Bus Operator, they don't need to order more units. They have a total of seven buses, they run five during the AM Rush Hour, between four and five for the PM Rush Hour, maybe six depending on availability, and two or three on the weekend.
Plus, if you have ever been to Roosevelt Island, they don't have a lot of room to store a lot of 40-foot buses at their garage/warehouse.
@@YoungNYCSubwayFan as someone who lives in New York from Queens you know what you’re talking about brother I wouldn’t understand why a small island that Bailey anyone lives on a go on with need more buses now I will leave it up to the MTA.
I wish the mta got Xde60s and i wish there were 2025 Xd60s
XDE60’s would be interesting; however no depot the MTA holds would be able to maintain them and actually needs that extra capacity. Bee-Line however operates them, and that’s about as close as you can get. As for 2025 XD60’s, we actually are in the process of getting those manufactured by New Flyer. First though, we’re getting XE60 NG buses.
Like the grey seats, tired of those ridiculous blue seats that most transit agencies have, hate it
@@ABoost-g2y To each their own!
Yeah man!
The American Seating Insight Primes. The worst seats you can put on any bus. It's extremely uncomfortable and hurts my back
Rosecity, I hear ya, but I'm talking about the color of the seats, to much transit agencies in the USA have blue seats, to overrated.
I’m surprised they didn’t opt to buy Electric or Diesel Electric Buses instead given the shorter route and the amount of money saved in maintenance and fuel!!! 🤷♂️. Electric buses would need periodic maintenance as well but not as much than diesel buses.
Actually, it costs less to buy diesel fueled buses because they already know how to maintain them, and don't have to learn how to maintain batteries or purchase battery chargers. which they would have to install and pay extra for. Diesel buses actually don't need much maintenance compared to electric buses, either. It was much more cost effective to buy diesel buses again, even though not ideal for emissions. If you noticed the size of the exhaust though, these have very low emissions.
Why do MTA's XD40 look like 2017 XN40 but RIOC's XD40 look like regular XD40's?
@@MotifAviation Actually the MTA’s newest XD40’s have the same roofline as an XDE40 or early XE40. It’s the full length version of this one, which is the default roofline that comes on XD40’s. RIOC didn’t purchase these buses with that much in mind, they just needed new buses. So they basically purchased them almost exactly like their 2018 XD40’s, barely anything changed.
Unlike XD40S XHE40/XN40 haves a bigger more thicker roofline, even an NFI 2024 XD40S roofline are slimmer of that of a XN40/XHE40, due to the CNG usage. @@Emperor_NYC
Call me crazy, but they don’t seem any different to me, apart from the similar CTtransit like interior style, with khaki/beige walls instead of black like MTA XD40s.
Could you possibly explain the differences for me?
They're very bare bones Xcelsiors - the flooring is the standard smooth type of floor with the brighter yellow steps, unlike what the MTA has which is darker. The seats are American Seating InSight Prime's with no inserts, so they're entirely just grey. The poles with the exception of the one at the very front and near the rear doors are silver. One of RIOC's classic features is the stop request being white/light red when lit up then black and then bright vibrant red when lit up. Engine/transmission specs are virtually identical to the MTA's 2024 XD40's, and the exterior spec is pretty much exactly like an MTA 2024 unit except for the short roofline, Xcelsior/New Flyer name plates, and yellow door handles.
CTtransit has cushioned seats that are blue with bigger taillights and rear indicators. Both the MTA and CTT have blindspot lights next to the front wheels, while RIOC does not. License plate front placements are also like CTT's on RIOC. The signage is Hanover Monochrome in its standard font, which is something neither the MTA or CTT use/buy anymore.
Hope this helped.
I see now
@@railfannerjs6308also, unlike the 2020-2024 units, they bring back alot of the 2019 XD40s features, SOME units as in propulsion that sounds like that of an XN40/C40LF, and smaller headlines, as well as a noticeable font change from sans serif to a more pixilated font chnage