Second Storey Traditional Window Cleaning! Would You Clean This?
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Great vid, Ashley. Nice to see some ladderwork. That's daily routine for me, 33 years in the game, trad only. WFP is soooo boring, there is no art in water spraying.
Thanks! Keep up the good work.😃👍🏼
Art..phhhh, WFP is safer and quicker, so much quicker
Bad backs & tennis elbow from trad work, more income and safer from pole work, the amount of effort put into cleaning a window traditionally, that isn’t that dirty anyway is mad,, pole FTW !!
25 years tradition cleaning no tennis elbow no bad back does a better job and it's not hard trad over wfp any day
@@wayneturner8339 what about all the akward windows, like over the conservatory, skylights, windows that are 30ft 40ft 50ft high, you gonna get a ladder?
If you respect the ladder and stay safe and don't over reach then you will be fine nice work Ashley
Absolutely! Thanks.😃👍🏼
Iv been cleaning windows for over 12 years, I was on a ladder for at least 9 of those years, Iv got a Rojack ladder stopper, point ladders & a consider my approach to my work a safe one. Iv never cleaned 2nd story windows off a ladder, the money made from cleaning those windows is far less than the potential losses, plus most insurance only covers you for up to 5-6meters.
Clean it with a pole or don’t clean it, plenty of work out there that’s not life threatening if any accidents happen, and the pole will clean them delicate windows good enough, be safe mate !
Thanks for your comments.😃👍🏼
Hey mate what insurance do you use for working at those heights?
Of course i would clean it. Here in Holland we use ladders with 35cm between each step so if i got an 3x12 i can go up to between 9m and 10m high and otherwise i use wfp
Nice job.... you seem to care about your customers property & do a good job.....!!!
Not many traditional window cleaning done now. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!😃👍🏼
Ladder is safe and not going anywhere, dug in at the bottom and set in at an angle at the top giving you a better angle closer to the glass. I still use ladders with wfp, to be fair I use the wfp more than ladders these days. Goog job and great video 👍
I’m 32 years in the job and still love it 💪
Awesome. Thanks for your comments. I guess those who didn’t start out on the ladder just don’t get it.😜👍🏼
I have a recycled rubber ladder mat from Screwfix. It made from old tyres and make the base nice and secure. Even with that I don’t fancy going as high as you do!
Nice! That’s all I use these days. The rubber ladder stoppers (laddermate?) are great but they are a little heavier to lug around and expensive when you misplace one like I have done!
Fanny
A good set of ladder mats is a good idea.😃👍🏼
Very nice, I decided to start window cleaning, learn a lot from u, your vids very informative top notch! Thank you for sharing your amazing experience on RUclips. Just can’t find any info about licensing what I need if I need, I’m based in Norfolk, cheers and keep safe!
Thanks for your comments!😃👍🏼
Of course i would.
Used to clean four story flats back in the day.
😃🤛🏼 I know someone who still does! I have to say, that’s a bit crazy!
I dont 't clean Windows like this anymore, but I used to do them like this in the late 90's. I still climb up to about 9 metres on the roof of a dormer to clean the dormer it self, but I've invested in rope access equipment/training for that.
Seriously safe.😃👍🏼
Love the Ramsey ladders, best in the business in my opinion very sturdy and can take a lot of punishment....Love the small point ladder..i have a similar one cut down from a broken double wooden set for 15 years when I first started then reluctantly brought a new Ramsey point which was still like new after 18 years when I sold it with my business 👍 guess as I'm 6 ft 3 didn't use it that much 😜🤣 top work fella 👍
Thanks! Yes, I’m a fraction over 6.3 as well and I don’t use the little point very much, but it’s so handy when I do. It needs replacing but I don’t want to part with it, and I can’t quite decide what to replace it with, wood again or aluminium?😃👍🏼
"Jesus, the OFFICE-OF-WORK-SAFETY is flooding the comments"! NICE VIDEO, Ashley!!!
Thanks!😃👍🏼
I've just bought a HD triple extn ladder for home diy & maintenance, gutter and soffit cleaning/repairs etc plus I've got some dead floodlights to fix. I retired last year after 42+ years as a linesman for a well known phone Co. so I'm well used to using ladders. At work the H&S was very strict with mandatory, set procedures for ladder work and I'll be just as careful at home, I want to enjoy my retirement! 😊 I see people taking their life in their hands with bad ladder work and it makes me cringe. Stay safe my friend. 👍
Thanks. I do much more with water fed pole these days.😃👍🏼
I had my triples out last weekend for a job. Bloody horrendous 😂, but if you're confident and comfortable doing it and you're getting the right money I guess it's worth it to keep things interesting 👍
Thanks for your comments.😃👍🏼
Can't beat a bit of traditional work. I used to do some like this when worked for someone. Bloody hated it haha but always got the job done
Graft.😃👍🏼
@@aemackintosh what go pro you using?
Hero7 at the moment.😃👍🏼
@@aemackintosh I was looking at that. The reviews seem little odd some are good and some are bad. I take it links to your phone?
Yeah, the first 7 I had was a little glitchy and eventually packed up, but they replaced it free of charge since I had only had it less than a year. I guess that’s why they brought out the 8 pretty quickly?😃👍🏼
I used to do traditional and would run up the ladder before it even touched the window sill, but id never go back after using water fed pole the past couple months
Me too. I can just look at a window and automatically adjust the ladder to the right height. I love wfp now I’ve made the change, but I still love to do a bit of Trad too.😃👍🏼
A.E.Mackintosh Cleaning Services same i have a bungalow I do trad just to blow the cobwebs off the squeegee lol
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I used to go that high on occasions, but won’t do it anymore, one small mistake and you could be dead. My friend had a fall from height, and still hasn’t recovered properly 2 years later.
Sorry to hear about your friend. This should definitely be done with great care!
I would use a wfp on those windows but I don’t have a problem with using ladders usually go to that height on a ladder to clear gutters as I don’t like using a gutter vac
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I personally wouldnt do it cos young family however i respect the effort and service u give to your customers. Ladder stoppers r inexpensive tho. U cud invest just for an extra safety precaution. Take care
Not worth it if you’re not sure. Plenty of other work out there I suppose.😃👍🏼
No problems at that height
Stabilize your base w some tent stakes into the feet and double triple check your angle Flys and walk up and work with a rhythm. This is what the real window cleaners are doing 👌
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Ashley speaking from 34 years experience of ladders and now 7 years on the pole I can honestly say that even if you stay safe they just wear your body out matey.my knees are shot with next to no cartlidge left.shoulders buggered and hips too.dont ruin your body matey.i am now nearly 62 and approaching retirement but too physically knackered to enjoy it and live on anti inflammatory tabs matey.think for your future.wished I had.done all the types of jobs your doing Ashley but wished I done the pole route much sooner and just stuck to that.even now I sometimes do gutters off ladders and why ffs I just don’t know other than to keep customers happy.stick to the pole matey.your body will thank you in the long run.believe me.tim
When I first started I would hear window cleaners complain about aches and pains from working on the ladders for 30+ years. But I think it’s similar if you spend 30+ years just working with a pole! Just different aches and pains. That’s partly why I like to get variety into what I do if I can.😃👍🏼
Proper window cleaner. Wouldn’t wanna do it in a gale though!! Haha.
Thanks! Yeah, you have to be sensible about it for sure.😃👍🏼
I enjoy traditional cleaning but no way would I risk climbing up to 2nd storey on that job, your mad mate!!
I did this kind of thing for years. Glad to be on the ground a bit more these days, but it’s always good to mix it up a bit.😃👍🏼
What cleaning agent do you use?
I have put a link in the description for a video about the cleaning solution I use.😃👍🏼
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Cheers matey.
hi Ashley, it was good to meet you in Bows Rd last weekend, hey, I have a question, does the ramsay ladder split in two? If it does, I could use it as a single also, I was checking on their website, but it doesn't say. Thanks so much, Kenny
Hi, yes, you can split a Ramsay ladder, I sometimes do it to get over a locked gate by putting each section on either side.😉👍🏼
thanks so much for the reply, perfect, I'm going to get one then :) @@aemackintosh
Do you have a spotter to look out for you when you're on a really tall ladder?
Yes, it’s a good idea to have someone footing the ladder.👍🏼
I enjoy doing the odd trad job too but not worth it on something like that anymore. Anything delicate like that I use Gardiner's supreme flocked brush, super soft and great for leaded and thin single pane windows. Feels good doing trad after nothing but pole washing 24/7 but to me it's not worth it anymore. I'd rather not do the job and keep my feet on the floor than have the slight chance of something going wrong.
Fair enough. Yes those Supreme flocked brushes are great!😃👍🏼
I did some of these today with a pole.. because everytime I show up to this store.. its a store front with like 2 sets of these in the back. its either thunderstorm or snow on the ground. and it was snowing so i took a head and went and used a stainless steel 10 in channel and plastic tbar. on it. lol. not the best idea. but it was actively rain slush snowing.
You are proper hard core to keep going.😎👍🏼
@@aemackintosh hahaha XD
I would do it but it would have to be wfp the top windows then trad the rest.
Fair enough.😃👍🏼
I do a lot of ladder work for traditional gutter cleaning. But really love the idea of getting a section/a-frame ladder for trad window work too. What sizes would you recommend?
My double A frame is 3.5 meter closed and 6 meter extended. My single section is 2.5 meter.👍🏼
Hello what ladders you recommend for 2 storey house?
3.5 meter Ramsay ladder.👍🏼
Hi what is the best thing for beginners to use to clean windows with as we won't have a lot of income from the business yet to get the best supplies? Thanks
If you want to start out with the traditional method, that would be the cheapest way to go. I did a video recently on my 5 essential squeegees, and there’s loads more tips on my channel if you check out the playlists.😃👍🏼
How about a vid of doing traditional cleaning with a pole please?
I don’t do much of that kind of thing, but it’s a good idea, I should do a video on that.😃👍🏼
How do you do hard to get to windows? Like over wide conservatories, flat roofs, skylights and windows in the roof? Cheers
Use a pole.👍🏼
Hi Ashley , just a quick question! I’ve just bought the phantom trad pole but how do I use the moerman handle with it? I rang window cleaning warehouse but they just said you can’t ! I’m sure you use it with the moerman handles though?? Keep up the good work!
Thanks
Sean
Yeah, I use it on an Unger opti-lock cone. Strictly speaking it doesn’t fit exactly right, but I find it works fine. I did a video about it. I think it’s in the Phantom Pole playlist on my channel.😃👍🏼
A.E.Mackintosh Cleaning Services thanks mate I’ll try that.. 👍
Ashley get a Ladder m8trix brilliant tool grips anything, I see exactly were your coming from I love getting the squeegee out.
I’ve seen those, they look pretty good. 😃👍🏼 Always nice to hear from my biggest fan!😜👍🏼
@@aemackintosh keep well matey 👍
You too.😃👍🏼
Hello, I just found your channel, and I really think it`s great with a lot of useful information.
I`m just changing over from 100% traditional to include some WFP work, but I was wondering why you don`t use the scrim on the edges from 4:14 onwards, I always see the need to do this. Also I always wrap an old scrim permanently around the top rung to prevent damage to brickwork at 3:52 for example.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks.
JH I just cut out the bits where I used the scrim towards the end because that would make for a long and boring video, but I do actually use it for every window. I hope you enjoy my channel.😃👍🏼
@@aemackintosh Thanks for the information mate, and yeas, I think your channel is great, like a breath of fresh air.
In my opinion not worth the risking doing it off a ladder for any amount of money that high up. I've done delicate windows like that WFP without any issues.
Nice one. Thanks for commenting.😃👍🏼
Water fed pole is crap i have picked loads of work up people dont like it just my opion
Jason Cummings
It’s not crap, it cleans better and last longer. Not opinion - fact.
Jason Cummings crap if you do t know how to use we’ve got over 1000 customers getting cleaned every month... without any issues
Without poo pooing what you do, youve invested £000's into a WFP system for more profit and of course safety, why use the ladder? We made the switch quite a few years ago and ladders at that height are deffo a no no now. We clean loads of houses like that and dont have problems with quality of clean. In fact the frames and glass look in excellent condition even more the reason to WFP it. Each to their own and I get what youre saying about variety, but we have plenty or variety as window cleaners as each house is different majority of the time or represents a different challenge in some way or form. Great channel BTW
Thanks for your comments. Partly, I like to be able to show different ways of doing things on my channel. I cleaned windows this way for years and I still enjoy a job like this occasionally, and some customers like it to be done this way. The glass is actually very delicate here and I quite like to look after it by hand. In fact, one of the panes was cracked and the customer asked me to tape it up while I was there. But yeah, it’s each to their own at the end of the day. If you are doing a job a certain way and getting paid for it, then good on you! Go for it! I hope you find my channel useful.😃👍🏼
Bollocks to that matey!
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Three points of contact on your ladder. Contact at the top contact at the bottom. And something like a ladder strap in the middle. If you have an accident you won't be covered by your insurance.
And three points of contact 4 u on the ladder.
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That's a 2 storey G(ground floor)-1-2.
What you call a 4 storey is a 3.lots of cleaners make that simple mistake.
Got it. You say tomAto, I say tomAHto.😃👍🏼
@@aemackintosh you might have to change ya thumb nails
@@toffeebluenose7331 I´m sorry, but as far as i know in UK and USA 1. floor means always groundlevel, only here in germany 1. floor is above groundlevel.
@@heinrichnutzel7031 Ground floor is ground level,floor above ground levelis first storey,you go in a lift, buttons dictates G 1 2 3 etc.plenty of lifts here in the uk to examine.
Ground can also be O or G in the uk ..just rechecked first floor is the floor above the ground level that in Germany and UK.class dismissed.
Veeeereeee interesting, not
What blade were you using on the sash windows ,no detailing needed ?
It’s an Unger S-plus channel. There is another video about it, I’ve put a link in the description.😃👍🏼
Sorry I wouldn't do off a ladder anymore, I would use a WFP and use the gardiner ultimate 12cm micro flocked brush
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Hi Ashley... I’ve recently started window cleaning with a WFP system. I’ve started to noticed on some windows an oily sheen or film appearing on some of my clients glass!!! Could you or anyone explain this? Or how to go about rectifying it?? Many thanks.
Not sure, it’s difficult to say. Have you checked the purity of your water? Has your tank become contaminated? I find some really dirty windows can benefit from being treated with a soapy solution first.😃👍🏼
A.E.Mackintosh Cleaning Services Thanks for the reply Ashley. 👍 my water is pure as lol.... sitting at 0 TDS. Keep up the good work!! I find your You Tube channel really helpful. 👍
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Do you boil your scrim cloth?
Yes. Well, I wash them on the hottest wash, with no detergent. At least twice before I start using them.😃👍🏼
I always felt safer on a point ladder, great piece of kit.
But been a wfp user for over 17yrs now and wouldn't dream of doing that height off a ladder now.
As Fred Dibnah used to say "One mistake up here and it's half a day out with the undertaker".
But each to their own...
I have to say, I’m glad to do more by water fed pole these days. That Fred Dibnah though, another level! In more ways than one! Have you seen the blue peter guy climbing Nelsons column? Also crazy!😃👍🏼
Same mate, first poles I used were brass with wingnuts for clamps 🙈 absolute shite lol
Things have really come on a long way.😃👍🏼
It’s not something I would do due to I am not that confident, however you obviously take everything into consideration to minimise the risk. 👍
Only Complacency and stupidity causes accidents...
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What kind of ladder you've got? I need smth similar :)
The two section point is a Ramsay ladder, I put a link to another video about it in the description. The triple box section ladder is a Lyte ladder.😃👍🏼
@@aemackintosh triple Lyte how big is it? 8m?
Ashley 😀
MrJurand It’s a 3.5meter triple.😃👍🏼
That gutter hopper looks blocked, going by the marks down the wall
Maybe? Good spot.😃👍🏼
do alot 3 storey houses traditional just about being sensible
Totally.😃👍🏼
Have you considered buying a “Foot The Ladder”?
Good idea.😃👍🏼
Says dont take risks.. rest ladder against a window corner.. are you mad? Make sure it's a flat surface would be been much safer to rest it against the concrete sill
If it was against the sill you have the scenario where you are standing a couple of rings from the top and stretching to reach the window. This way, the ladder is nestled nicely in the corner and is positioned across the window. So my weight is lower down the ladder and I’m able to hold on without stretching to reach. As long as you have those good points of contact.😃👍🏼
I much prefer my ladder wedged in a corner than on a sill. Never been a fan of pointers tho
On a point, if you stand to near the top and lean too far to the side, it can flip up, a bit like a Robin Reliant going round a corner too fast. But I think the idea of them is that you can position the top higher and across the window slightly, which means you’re actually standing lower down from the top, and you are standing more central to the window, so you don’t have to stretch. So if used correctly, they are actually safer!😃👍🏼
@@aemackintosh flip like a robin reliant 🤣
There's no way would I clean it on a ladder. I wouldn't take it on never. Pole would be no good anyway as it's got wooden frames. Leave well alone. Unless you need the work .
I wouldn’t recommend it to everyone. I’ve spent many years on the ladder before changing to wfp. I wouldn’t be where I am today without a good set of ladders.😃👍🏼
I pole wash plenty of old wooden rotting windows. Never have any issues. It's the ally frames I don't like
Why bother mate. Although taking proper safer measures and experience will help. If the worst was to happen. You would be well out of pocket for months if not worst . If the job or client doesn’t fit my preferences just move on to the next. That’s why we work for our selfs to get away from jobs like those. You have to customer profile. Yes it’s a dirty word, but essential to have a successful business.
Fair enough. Up to you.😃👍🏼
5:43 you miss a spot
YES, You are right, (still smiling) but maybe Ashley is in the moment "a little bit pissed off" about the "SECURITY-LADDER-Comments"...;
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No. Not worth the few meager quid.
That’s fair enough. There is plenty of other work out there.😃👍🏼
@@aemackintosh Actually, I've had some struggles due to Covid. Still wouldn't do that, it's pretty suicidal honestly. Glad you didn't hurt yourself.
Personally speaking mate, i think your being foolish! If you want to risk serious life changing injuries or losing your life, just to clean windows, then im afraid you have really lost all sense of reality !
I wouldnt go near that job on ladders, I've more bloody sense!
In fact , the customer has no sense either, by allowing you to work on her house in such a dangerous manner !
That could easily have been your last video Ashley & id miss ye mate.
JD totally agree!
I bet your socially distancing so you don’t catch Covid 19 but your life is at greater risk doing this job! On a ladder. One slip and your a gonna🤦🏻♂️
Why? A customer assumes that since you are claiming to a be a cleaning business that you will have the adequate tools to get a job done. I have been cleaning all types including windows to ovens and have cleaned windows 4 storeys up! If you dont feel safe doing it.. contact another company and get them to take your work.
I totally understand. I wouldn’t recommend it to everyone. But there are safe practices to using a ladder. I’ve spent many years on the ladder and I wouldn’t be where I am today without it, but there is still no room for complacency. I knew this would be controversial, but there are still window cleaners out there using ladders. So what kind of window cleaning channel would it be if I didn’t have a ladder in it somewhere!? Thanks for your comments.😃👍🏼
@@CHR15Y-BoY We get to live another day Chrisy 😉
@@aemackintosh I hear ye mate. Worked off ladders for a fair few years myself & had a couple of really close calls! My view now is, if you cant clean it from the safety of ground level then let someone else play superman!
But your right, you expected controversy & you got controversy 😁