Calling time on street harassment: 'He said: "I’d break the law for you." I was 13'

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @annwe6
    @annwe6 5 лет назад +57

    Thank you for your courgae in speaking out.
    I'm 52 now. The first time I was sexually harassed in the street by an adult I was 13 years old and in my school uniform. During my late teens and through my 20s it began to happen on an almost daily basis.
    It was annoying at best and, depending on the circumstance, could feel very scary too. I've been followed home on foot, stalked by car drivers, and physically threatened. I've had verbal insults thrown at me for not capitulating to their sick minded requests.
    Sad thing is, my experiences are common place, and it sometimes happens to boys as well. Harassment may be as old as the hills, but that never made it right. We need to change our attitudes at a societal level. Basic moral and ethical behavior should be taught in schools, in case it's not being taught at home. It wouldn't be too hard to put in place, just one or two classes a week could do it.

    • @thereissomecoolstuff
      @thereissomecoolstuff 5 лет назад +1

      Are you saying this is no longer an issue for you?

    • @awad2819
      @awad2819 4 года назад +3

      i am feeling really sorry for your trauma. be strong. thanks for sharing.

    • @marialuisagonzalvez1158
      @marialuisagonzalvez1158 4 года назад +1

      Hello annwe6. My name is Maria and I'm also working on a street harassment documentary for my final year of university. I need to find three women that would be happy to speak to me about their experiences and opinions. I want to continue raising awareness surrounding the issue and show audiences what the negative effects of being street harassed are!! Is there any chance you'd be willing to take part to help me tackle the issue? Please respond to this comment and we can find a way of contacting each other! Thank you! :)

  • @pfscpublic
    @pfscpublic 5 лет назад +25

    My daughter is 24 and it happens every week to her in Clapham London, at a bus stop, on the tube, walking down the road to our home, it's mostly middle aged men of a particular demographic on the street or in cars shouting out the window. I've asked her to phone me if there is a chance I can pop down for a man chat. It's been relentless since she was a teenager.

    • @rasklaat2
      @rasklaat2 5 лет назад +1

      Asians?

    • @sufimuslimlion4114
      @sufimuslimlion4114 5 лет назад +2

      What's the point of saying "a certain demographic" when you dont even specify who? You want to speak out & make hints but you're too pathetic and cowardly to specify who lol ok buddy.

    • @pfscpublic
      @pfscpublic 3 года назад

      @FFS baggebo The d/g isn't racial btw, but it Is relentless

  • @joanneemsall5489
    @joanneemsall5489 5 лет назад +30

    This is disgraceful.Why do people think they they can shout any foul or disgusting things at you.Lack of respect is rife unfortunately,I have learnt to ignore it over the years but it would be wonderful if people could be educated from a young age to treat others as they would like to be treated...

  • @terryralphs4187
    @terryralphs4187 5 лет назад +43

    Well done The Guardian and well done ladies for standing up against this harassment.

    • @pfscpublic
      @pfscpublic 5 лет назад +1

      Sad truth Terry is they can't stand up to it, I've asked my daughter to ask other men to help out when it happens, but it's always an unpleasant moment. Happens every b** week to her in London

    • @terryralphs2613
      @terryralphs2613 5 лет назад +3

      @@pfscpublic women's equality has not improved as much as we may think. The only solution I see is what they are doing is by exposing the problems and educating men. It's a real shame that there is this attitude from some men. I think that Respect is very lacking in our world, whether to women or other ethnic groups.

    • @pfscpublic
      @pfscpublic 5 лет назад

      @@terryralphs2613 Perhaps, although I'm not sure if educating these men is either possible or practical given they are mostly middle aged, perhaps with families, I don't know. It's a bit like the set of men who think they can upskirt with cameras, what's the best way to stop that?

    • @terryralphs4187
      @terryralphs4187 5 лет назад

      @@pfscpublic Yes, I think you are right, unfortunately. We have to try to show, in some civilised way, that it is unacceptable behaviour.

    • @awad2819
      @awad2819 4 года назад

      and shame for us stepping aside and hide. men must make society harmless themselves.

  • @stephenconlon653
    @stephenconlon653 5 лет назад +30

    Women and girls are not objects

  • @outlawJosieFox
    @outlawJosieFox 5 лет назад +50

    Who are the parents of these boys and men ?? That's where racism and misogyny start after all.
    I do remember being their age and feeling absolutely mortified at the sort of cat calling and sexually aggressive language in the street

    • @elciegodelcuervo
      @elciegodelcuervo 5 лет назад +8

      Sorry no parents, just single mothers

    • @elciegodelcuervo
      @elciegodelcuervo 5 лет назад +1

      @Truthful Chap true. I back this man's argument.

    • @pfscpublic
      @pfscpublic 5 лет назад +6

      Josie, my daughter is harassed by middle aged men, their parents will be old aged pensioners if still alive, happens every week to her, every week, always middle aged men

    • @frenchbulldog3748
      @frenchbulldog3748 5 лет назад

      @Suck MyToe , yep. Those gangs had a lot of freedom, immunity from the law for about four decades (Telford a case in point). Now they are an epidemic.

    • @awad2819
      @awad2819 4 года назад

      definitely.

  • @JeromesMedia
    @JeromesMedia 5 лет назад +12

    That’s defiantly need to be changed. In some countries this is OKAY, when it’s not

  • @elainebines6803
    @elainebines6803 5 лет назад +24

    It wont help - men need to make other men feel as if they're something they would scrape off their shoe. Real men do not behave that way

  • @diannefitzsimmons9027
    @diannefitzsimmons9027 5 лет назад +11

    Nothing has changed. I'm so devastated to think that women and girls are still in as much danger as they were in the 70's.

  • @moonglow1311
    @moonglow1311 5 лет назад +15

    I never thought being big chested at the age of 12 was my biggest asset! I use to hate walking past a group of guys in NYC, knowing that their wolf calls we're going to start at any moment. I even remember my 8th grade teacher (a nun) calling me out of the classroom, and asking me if they were for real; or was I stuffing toilet paper in my bra! I didn't think much of it then - but I sure do now ‼️😎🇺🇸

  • @amroelkhodrai3048
    @amroelkhodrai3048 5 лет назад +34

    And they call themselves "civilized society".

    • @judyclarkson5887
      @judyclarkson5887 5 лет назад +3

      The irony, right?!

    • @Thrill_Hou
      @Thrill_Hou 5 лет назад +5

      LiftedBuddha the resurgence of right wing nationalism says otherwise...

    • @ChicoCabra
      @ChicoCabra 5 лет назад +3

      @@LiftedBuddha Seems like you don't understand your own whataboutism.

    • @annwe6
      @annwe6 5 лет назад +2

      @@LiftedBuddha What I'm most impressed by is the irony of your screen name

    • @ChicoCabra
      @ChicoCabra 5 лет назад

      @@LiftedBuddha Look, if you don't even understand the bigger picture of what is being talked about in the video, you don't really get to steer the conversation with absurd questions.

  • @IrresistibleWitch
    @IrresistibleWitch 5 лет назад +3

    What is harassment vs a stranger making a horrible comment?

  • @mgmassey174
    @mgmassey174 5 лет назад +16

    When will our right to be unmolested verbally or physi cally be respected.
    Men who do this have no conscience.

    • @joshjones9878
      @joshjones9878 5 лет назад +8

      Any rights women have, in the final analysis, rely on male force for their enforcement... Alienating men from society will not result in greater safety and rights for women.

    • @SonoTom
      @SonoTom 5 лет назад +3

      @@joshjones9878 indeed. quite the opposite.

    • @dumfriesspearhead7398
      @dumfriesspearhead7398 5 лет назад +5

      @@joshjones9878 Where did they say that they were alienating men? They said "men WHO DO THIS have no conscience", making a clear separation between those who and those who don't.

    • @mgmassey174
      @mgmassey174 5 лет назад

      @Cowardly Custard is that the best your gray matter can muster darling?

  • @Audiogeek-kf2ez
    @Audiogeek-kf2ez 5 лет назад +6

    These instant fines should be. World wide .not just the EU or USA. The world wide flesh market. Starts in the middle East, Albania,all of so Russia. All because if middle East oil money.

  • @kben24
    @kben24 5 лет назад +16

    No law will ever protect you as well as you can protect yourself.

    • @Mumra2K
      @Mumra2K 5 лет назад +3

      What is the appropriate protective measure that you can suggest?

    • @kben24
      @kben24 5 лет назад

      Appropriate/Inappropriate... It doesn't matter as long as you make an active decision to protect yourself. Someone who approaches you inappropriately has no concern for lawfulness, therefore you have to take on the exact same mindset.

    • @Mumra2K
      @Mumra2K 5 лет назад +2

      @@kben24 OK, right mindset? Check.
      What is the actual practical action in your opinion that she should have taken?

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 5 лет назад +5

    Is Gemma Tutton 14 years old? Is that correct? Is that accurate?

    • @jackaljade
      @jackaljade 5 лет назад +1

      Why?? Did you find information that says otherwise?? Tbf though, she could be saying it happened when she was 14, though she's 18,19,20 or whatever now.

    • @thereissomecoolstuff
      @thereissomecoolstuff 5 лет назад +1

      @@jackaljade the graphic in the piece identified her as 14. I wanted to verify that. She looks as old as her sister (20)..

    • @jackaljade
      @jackaljade 5 лет назад

      @@thereissomecoolstuff -
      Oh, okay, I understand now.

    • @annwe6
      @annwe6 5 лет назад +2

      Why is that so important?

    • @thereissomecoolstuff
      @thereissomecoolstuff 5 лет назад

      @@annwe6 because it's an important factor. Is she or isn't she 14?

  • @Z3N1TY0
    @Z3N1TY0 Год назад

    Like bro if you see a woman you think is hot KEEP IT TF TO YOURSELF
    and if said person is someone you know is a minor then just turn yourself in dude ..

  • @walkers3162
    @walkers3162 5 лет назад +17

    So called civilised society 🙏🙏

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 5 лет назад +4

    I watched the video twice. I'm glad I did...It solidified my view.

  • @jackaljade
    @jackaljade 5 лет назад +24

    So a law like this would effectively kill off men approaching women on the streets or in the supermarkets anymore, for fear of being accused of harassment on the men's part. Yes, I know people will say you can still approach women, just don't harass. But who will decide what's harassment and what's not? A woman might feel harassed even though the man feels as though he has not done anything to harass her.

    • @georgestanley-jones6821
      @georgestanley-jones6821 5 лет назад +13

      Just requires tact and respect, likewise I can shake someone's hand without being worried about being accused of assault. That being said, even if I grant what you've said as being true - male uncertainty seems like a fair trade for women's security.

    • @jackaljade
      @jackaljade 5 лет назад +4

      @@TimLake -
      I never said anything about approaching a woman who was alone on a quiet street or about the woman being young (although, tbf, a quiet street is still fine, but I agree with you if it's like a dark alley or something. As long as there's other people around, no matter a lot or a few, it's still public and it's fine).
      The point I'm making is that it will completely be up to the women to decide whether she feels harassed or not, regardless of whether the man used "common sense" or not.
      Yes, you can say just use "common sense", but the knock effect will be that men become increasingly fearful of approaching women out in public.
      Look, it doesn't effect me, as I'm not the type of person who approaches women on the street anyway. But for everyone else, we need to ask ourselves is this the type of society we want to live in, where our experiences are increasingly becoming limited.
      It's odd that you should say "she feels vulnerable", as if to say women are incapable of handling the experience of having a man come up to her.
      It all works both ways, of course; all of the above applies to women approaching men just as it does to men approaching women.

    • @jackaljade
      @jackaljade 5 лет назад +2

      @@TimLake -
      1.) I have not implied that women will "overreact". That doesn't even come into play here. What I'm saying is men will be fearful of approaching women out in public, a process that will happen even before the woman gets an opportunity to "overreact". Just the very possiblity of being accused or punished for harassment will put off most sensible men (as it's already happening in the workplace post metoo), without having to consider if a women will "overreact" or not. It doesn't even come into play.
      2.) Of course men don't know how a woman will react to their approach. That's kinda the point of the approach in first place, to get a reaction that provides an answer.
      3.) "Works both ways" was only for what I said, I made that clear. It was for approaching a man or woman, not for harassing a woman, as you then made it to be.
      4.) I don't know what George (or yourself) means by "male uncertainty" when he says "male uncertainty is a fair trade for women's security"... What does "male uncertainty" mean here exactly?? I mean, male uncertainty already exists, after all.

    • @hahahaaha7208
      @hahahaaha7208 5 лет назад +3

      I met my boyfriend that way. He ran over to me and asked a series of questions, and my number. 3 years later still together. Don't destroy this method of meeting people.

    • @cancercarrot
      @cancercarrot 3 года назад +1

      This type of thinking is part of the problem. Get some common sense and find a new hobby, what is wrong with u that not harassing women in the streets is taking away such a big part of ur life.

  • @Notolderthanyou
    @Notolderthanyou 4 года назад +1

    Sounds like the soundtrack from babel

  • @JustinLHopkins
    @JustinLHopkins 5 лет назад +21

    1 in 6 men become victims of some type of sexual violence in their life. I LOVE The Guardian, but you ignore male victims. I was violently assaulted in 2015 and virtually no beneficial or helpful outlets existed. You had no articles about supporting male victims either. This double standard is not right at all. It seems that The Guardian believes that only women can be victims and could care less about the other half. Go do a story about the boys sold into sexual slavery in Afghanistan and then I might believe you give a damn about how sex crimes also affect males too.

    • @Rose-jp7dm
      @Rose-jp7dm 5 лет назад +3

      I'm sorry for what happened to you. Not everyone is aware but I hope the Guardian sees your comment

    • @SV-mc1jq
      @SV-mc1jq 5 лет назад +15

      Sorry for what happened to you but they don't. The guardian has an entire series on RUclips. Search for "modern masculinity".
      Moreover, the harrasment to females is more prominent in all of our cultures. If we, as a society, are not able to solve something which we can see with our very eyes, it's even more difficult to solve something which generally happens behind closed doors (female abuse on men)

    • @fka_the_body1542
      @fka_the_body1542 5 лет назад +2

      Thank you for speaking up🙌🏽

    • @JustinLHopkins
      @JustinLHopkins 5 лет назад +1

      JeongHye Yoon Thanks for your support.

    • @JustinLHopkins
      @JustinLHopkins 5 лет назад +1

      Fkathebody Welcome. :-)

  • @hartlinerealm2015
    @hartlinerealm2015 5 лет назад +9

    Maybe you can help some women in Sweden...

    • @eliispion2763
      @eliispion2763 5 лет назад +3

      You are stupid

    • @eliispion2763
      @eliispion2763 5 лет назад +2

      @Suck MyToe help for what

    • @hahahaaha7208
      @hahahaaha7208 5 лет назад +3

      @@eliispion2763 the refugees

    • @jackaljade
      @jackaljade 5 лет назад +1

      Sweden, Germany... All far-right, racist, nationalist LIES and PROPAGAGANDA.
      If you look online, you'll find articles on the rise of ra_pe in Sweden as far back as 2005... Long before Sweden started taking in more refugees (around 2015).

  • @thesofialorena
    @thesofialorena 2 года назад

    Liv Blck matters

  • @johnnyhayhurst196
    @johnnyhayhurst196 5 лет назад +17

    Diversity is getting to experience things you don't like. Vote progressive!

  • @angryleaf141
    @angryleaf141 4 года назад +2

    Im scared now

  • @alwaysdisputin9930
    @alwaysdisputin9930 5 лет назад +3

    It isn't going to stop 'til every1 wears body cams

  • @ocelot8611
    @ocelot8611 5 лет назад +8

    Have they not heard of bodycams? Capture the remark, the perpetrator and the vehicle registration on camera, boom, problem solved. An urgent crackdown is needed rather than writing hashtagged stories with no evidence and starting 'conversations'. It's only when suspects get caught that they will realise the error of their ways.

    • @dildonius
      @dildonius 5 лет назад +15

      Oh, so it's the women's fault for not walking around with body cameras on all day long.

    • @ocelot8611
      @ocelot8611 5 лет назад +1

      @@dildonius Proves my point - we need to stop having these 'conversations' about right and wrong and who's to blame when there are simple steps women can take to help put a stop to it and have the suspect caught to prevent it happening to other women. It's never been easier in this day and age.

    • @TheLyric7
      @TheLyric7 5 лет назад +1

      Isn't it against the law to record someone without their knowledge? So even if that's the case they'd still lose cuz they couldn't use it in court..
      At least in US anyway

    • @joshjones9878
      @joshjones9878 5 лет назад

      You can't legislate to make a society decent... Decency comes out of family, culture and values and religion as well - all things progressives have waged war on for decades - you reap what you sow.. Knife crime, old people getting mugged for the change in their purse, street harassment, widespread drug abuse and dealing, abortion, single mothers, social dislocation due to multi-culturalism - all things that were very rare in my grandparents day that are all too common now thanks to the relentless assault by progressives on our traditional culture..

    • @TheLyric7
      @TheLyric7 5 лет назад +3

      @@joshjones9878 religion has nothing to do with it let's be real... I know aetheists that practice more decency than those known religious people... I wish ppl knew religion is a facade frfr

  • @TheKayzieMichelle
    @TheKayzieMichelle 5 лет назад +22

    We did you expect with your immigration policies?

    • @bravoalley228
      @bravoalley228 5 лет назад +4

      What do you mean?

    • @sisuguillam5109
      @sisuguillam5109 5 лет назад +19

      Immigration has nothing to do with it. You know that.

    • @alexanderkovarik4610
      @alexanderkovarik4610 5 лет назад +7

      Where does the video imply that immigrants are to blame for this? I must of missed it.

    • @TheKayzieMichelle
      @TheKayzieMichelle 5 лет назад +4

      The study from Sweden shows that 85% of all rapes are done by foreign born. I'm sure all of Europe is the same.

    • @sisuguillam5109
      @sisuguillam5109 5 лет назад

      @@balance3201 Just block him. He seems to be rather facts averse. No point in wasting your time on him.

  • @janetsellers9890
    @janetsellers9890 2 года назад

    doh. too many harassments. And it has no relation to dress, hair, etc.

  • @realthings5821
    @realthings5821 5 лет назад +3

    I didn't get a clear impression of the behaviours we're meant to be avoiding here.

    • @craggolly
      @craggolly 5 лет назад +4

      Cat calling and harassing young girls.

    • @deedee1710
      @deedee1710 5 лет назад +7

      You're probably the problem then

    • @realthings5821
      @realthings5821 5 лет назад

      @@deedee1710 How kind you are.

  • @user-uv4xc6by6u
    @user-uv4xc6by6u 5 лет назад +8

    [Dislike]
    yes harrassment= bad, however what most of these girls seem to be talking about is very very terrible attempts to 'woo' these girls. Remember, we live in a society that tells us that men need to be the ones to charm you over, instead of making it illegal to verbally harass a woman, we should instead teach people better ways of chatting someone up, that isn't taxing for the recipient, isnt creepy, has an understanding of timing and place, and helps dipshits to be better human beings. We never talk about this in society, no wonder people are such 'charisma virgins', they don't know what to do, they are just flinging things and seeing what sticks.

    • @outlawJosieFox
      @outlawJosieFox 5 лет назад +16

      How about we start with respect for women and girls in the first place?

    • @sisuguillam5109
      @sisuguillam5109 5 лет назад +16

      Nope. This is not mistaken or clumsy wooing; this is not flirting 'gone bad'. This is harassment. No need to explain it away.

    • @user-uv4xc6by6u
      @user-uv4xc6by6u 5 лет назад +1

      @@sisuguillam5109 yes and no, there are sadistic assholes out there that see a pretty woman he cant get and takes it out on her, thats catcalling, passing comments, and random jabs. on the flip side there is the people who try to come up and have a clumbsy, vulgar, and uncomfortable conversation, the latter is bad flirtation

    • @heidi7093
      @heidi7093 5 лет назад +6

      SB there was a grown man following a girl in a school uniform home ? how is that at all a bad compliment or misunderstood flirting

    • @user-uv4xc6by6u
      @user-uv4xc6by6u 5 лет назад +1

      @@heidi7093 we tend to focus in life on the things we don't have, a partner, looks, a sense of freedom. That is also the basis of ephebophilia, they fetishize what they don't have and become obsess over it. The problem isn't that he is a man, but that he doesn't see the full picture, he believes that society has given him a bad hand in life, so he doesn't care what they think is right or wrong as in his mind, society thinks 'he' is wrong. The solution to this is to begin teaching from a young age the idea that you are personally responsible for how your life turns out, you get rejected, you back off, learn, and engage with someone else with a better understanding on how others tick.
      attraction usually reflects what we want in our own lives, change the internal dialogue and you will change the dynamic.

  • @petermarinelli4239
    @petermarinelli4239 5 лет назад +2

    Free speech girls ......just scream back.....

    • @bekimveliu1036
      @bekimveliu1036 3 года назад +2

      Yes scream instead of doing something. Scream like a baby

  • @sherwoodtidwell5606
    @sherwoodtidwell5606 5 лет назад +6

    Oh I see what this videos about I turn this s*** off real quick

    • @dildonius
      @dildonius 5 лет назад +8

      Dont like reality, eh?

    • @sherwoodtidwell5606
      @sherwoodtidwell5606 5 лет назад

      @@dildonius nope did not give it a chance past ..when the girl said 13

    • @dildonius
      @dildonius 5 лет назад +3

      @@sherwoodtidwell5606 wtf does that even mean?

    • @sherwoodtidwell5606
      @sherwoodtidwell5606 5 лет назад +1

      @@dildonius I think the girl said she was 13 she's claiming she's got dudes hollering at her on the street when she's 13 I think it's a b******* lie

    • @heidi7093
      @heidi7093 5 лет назад +10

      sherwood tidwell how would you know anything ? street harassment is really common for teenagers , believe women

  • @jason4275
    @jason4275 5 лет назад +2

    Stop complaining and just film and post it online, how hard is it to start your phone camera to record from you walk home.

    • @Pan-daMaddy
      @Pan-daMaddy Год назад

      We could get attacked for filming a man harassing us, you don't understand at all unfortunately.

  • @ashleyleavitt6219
    @ashleyleavitt6219 5 лет назад +5

    People need to grow thicker skin

    • @DevonMiniFlicks
      @DevonMiniFlicks 5 лет назад +5

      Why so people can say whatever they want?

  • @IrresistibleWitch
    @IrresistibleWitch 5 лет назад +2

    Nobody MADE you feel anything that’s on YOU. A stranger does NOT make me feel bad about myself. Stop giving your self esteem away to strangers.

    • @ruthnoruwa
      @ruthnoruwa 3 года назад +1

      If something happens and it traumatizes you then it is going to effect you in some sort of way

  • @mohammedgori9492
    @mohammedgori9492 5 лет назад

    Look. Your freedom

  • @Davman316
    @Davman316 5 лет назад +3

    Both women and kids should be banned from wearing makeup. That will stop a large portion of the unwanted attention they are getting.

    • @BlackRose-vi2yg
      @BlackRose-vi2yg 5 лет назад +10

      Lol, that's not sorting out the problem is it??

    • @symonelewis1690
      @symonelewis1690 3 года назад +2

      What happened to men approaching women like they have some manners and self-control? In this video, there are underage girls that have been catcalled by grown men. That behavior is creepy and uncalled for.