Consumer Confidential: Workplaces going quiet, woman posts layoff to TikTok
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You can’t just put this on COVID. Employees are aware they have no privacy they are being surveilled by the company from their computer. They don’t have and are not allowed to have human interaction bc it’s tracked. These employees are just putting their heads down to meet productivity benchmarks. Super fun direction we are headed.
There should be no "privacy" AT WORK. Someone is paying you to produce. Not talk, chat, gossip, or be a social butterfly. These people are recluses that got to work at home for YEARS and now want all the creature comforts of home, at work. Because they are incredibly weak people.
Send in the AI 🤖 replacements! Hahahahahahaha 😂😂😂
@@Thomas-he4wk you'd think that, yet, you can't capture lightning in a bottle. How many companies or business ideas came out of gathering people with similar skills and letting them be at ease rather than needlessly surveilled?
Track KPIs & sensitive data, that should be the legal limit of employee surveillance.
As someone from an ex-socialist country, this constant intrusiveness, open distrust placquaded with motivational posters & "socialising exercises" gives rather worrying, police-state vibes. And its worse when it's a company, since it has no moral claims.
Also, if transparency is good for business, why does management have a private office? They are *most* in violation of that premise.
In office newscaster are insanely out of touch here 😂
Yeah they were weird
Agree. Headphones? Headphones are not a solution. Not even close.
Unless she signed a non disclosure agreement or some other document that she wasn’t allowed to film. The reality is, this was in her home; they got exposed. This happened to someone I know also back in August.
Unless she sign an employee/employer agreement after reading the handbook agreeing to keep conversation private which is outlined in very handbook in the 30 pages long handbook she broke her agreement. However they can't do much as it went viral so not much they can do now.
Lazy tech workers will all be fired once AI advances another 3 years. The non lazy ones will be fired in 5 years. A computer using software is faster then a human. She didn't expose them, she exposed herself in filming that bringe moment of having to sperg out because you know you need a reaction for your tiktok followers. Just another fake human showing fake emotion for clout and clicks.
Better learn a trade quick. LOL.
Actually California is a double party consent for recordings
is that paper actually legal at all?
She and the others fired were probably hired for hoilday relief, so all the others could take their vacations, then now that everyone is back at work, they dont need them anymore, hence being fired. Hopefully, the next job works out for her.
Work from home and save enviroment
Leave the state and move to a red state
@@SaveAmerica69 No thanks. I like my reproductive rights.
@@bombaybeach208 No, you prefer liberalism and communism.
@@bombaybeach208so are you saying you are using abortion as your contraceptive option
@@SaveAmerica69 work from home has nothing to do being politics
Kudos for having the guts to take this public. Best wishes to this beautiful lady !!
If she can prove that she had great reviews from her manager, she could sue for unlawful termination.
Most people realize co-workers are toxic individuals who bring their drama to the workplace. Gossiping is not some badge of honor.
The introverts are finally realizing & actualizing their super power.
We always knew. We just choose very carefully when to use it.
@@steelsteez6118😂
I'm not even an introvert, and hate when people waste my time at work with gossip. I just want to focus, get my work done, and I'll socialize with my friends outside of work...
Introverts win Everytime....I've mastered the art of disappearing, yet still getting my work done exceeding expectations. Mgrs. respect that and leave you tf Alone. Extroverts always the 1st ones getting fired!!!
Good luck finding a new job. If she does, good luck for her new employer.
Exactly-I’m there to make a living and get a paycheck to pay my bills. I don’t give a f*uck about face to face interaction or socializing. As long as my work is being completed satisfactorily and timely, I don’t see anything wrong with WFH.
What would fix the problem of people not wanting to talk in the office is letting people work remote.
Lolololol. You just made the perfect argument for AI replacing ALL tech workers. I cannot wait to see that happen.
Production for people working from home dropped by ~50%. (Hardvard Poll study from 2023, I can find if need be and link). They got used to working at home, in PJs, working whenever they wanted to. All the comforts. Now it's back to reality and they don't like it. Tough. Replacement AI is coming. Better learn a trade quick.
The girl is being hired for propaganda purposes. Companies race to play the sympathy card for social propaganda to boost their images. Lol. Smooth brains cannot see.
I thought jobs liked high productivity. That means less gossip and more performance. I learned during covid that fellow employees could sometimes be a burden. By getting you sick, backstabbing, and hindering. Those two years of distancing really taught me self reliability. Now I've become an introvert by default. Let's maintain it that way. Please!!
What in the hell are you talking about? Are you the Cloudflare CEO?
Depending on how many are laid off State Law states that it must be reported to the Government and is public knowledge
That's a moronic regulation. Why does the government need to knownifni fire people from my private business they have nothing to do with?
What this woman did was actually illegal, as California is a two-party consent state. Meaning if you are in private, which they were. Then both parties have to agree to be recorded. Now this would be completely different if they were out in public
HR is inhumane
Lol, the CEO is the same as MANY others: upset that he got CAUGHT. Him saying that they need to do better means "we need to do better at making sure people don't share this sort of thing". Watch - the next round of firings from Cloudflare and other companies will include a "if you share a video or discuss this you lose all severence and we pursue legal action" clause. They do not care at ALL.
2:30 Clearly he DIDN’T get the message of wearing headphones in an office 🤦🏼♀️
That guy is so awkward…
Don’t listen to them. They sound salty that someone took the power back and stood up for herself the best way she knew how. So good for her. Everyone should call out company’s like this. Always.
Yeah my job doesn’t let us use them lol. I used to use them a lot back in 2015-2017 before the pandemic. But I hate open offices. I would do anything to just work remotely. Cubes suck. Private offices or remote work is best for everyone.
Open offices suck because the bosses can harass you in person.
Your laziness is why these companies poured million into developing AI. To replace you in 3 to 5 years. And we don't want you in the trades, you won't cut it.
My greatest sympathies to this woman, you can tell she put in her all and was let down
Funny cause without social media these company’s think they can get away with whatever they won’t mmmm think again.
Cloudflare announced that they were laying people off though. She was told she was underperforming. The manager was wrong for not being on the call and handled this all wrong. She is lucky she got more job offers. Her results aren’t typical however.
That CEO says it’s standard every quarter. So to me, sounds like they over hire every quarter just refresh their opportunity of finding the next golden sales goose.
Never worked for a large company eh?
If you watched the whole video, they laid off her boss and department too; she was on the phone with two random people from the HR department. Within the video they also couldn't giver he specifics on what her productivity dodge the question entirely with no specifics, she wasn't even on a PIP (performance in progress) program. She was trained for 3 months (STANDARD IN ALL TECH FIRMS/BUSINESS) because they're not gonna give you the keys to the production right away cause they want to train you first on how they conduct their processes within the company. She became a full time employee the last week of November and a month later they a laid her off. In a corporate setting she barely even worked a month because no one is in the office during the weeks of Thanksgiving and Christmas which was explained in her video. In the end though, the HR department only had to say is, "we are taking the business in a different direction and your current department and job role don't fit in this new direction." Which they didn't, they just dodge the questions like a politician.
Typical Churn culture just like Amazon.
Tech workers use computers so sending a layoff notice via computer and not being personable is fine. Who cares? Just weak people complaining about technicalities. If he sent a text or carrier pigeon it would have been fine.
These workers have been at home for YEARS while people like me were forced to still go and work in people's homes during the plannedemic. Now they want all the creature comforts of home back at work. Like weak nimbyists.
Nothing personal but after being in the workplace for 40 years I can say that there alot of females that are terrible workers. Most will paint there fingernails for eight hours a day if you let them . I would say at least 85 percent are just awful. So I don't know this woman but I have questions for her but Ill bet she will not answer. So we will probably not get the truth from her because a lot of them lie better than politicians. Most of them do not consider themselves anything more than shopping, food and pets. You can teach them somethings but most will not get it. It is just the way it is and life is not always fair.
Anybody that expects privacy anywhere at all these days is a fool
I have been laid off and it sucks. However, it was done by my manager with HR there as well as a union representative. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that the company over hired and since Brittany was a new employee she was on the chopping block. Be honest! We aren’t idiots.
This is for a company that does not need innovation. Clearly.
Just leave people alone
Or maybe - there’s this funny invention called “rooms”!
The corporate overlords need to be called out..... good for her.
Lololol. That's cute. She's going to be sued by them for HER actions in recording the conversation and posting it, hurting their reputation. Read CA law at their NDAs. Lol
Hah. That's the main reason she got laid off. She documented everything literally. Poor employers have to deal with some employees like this. Imagine if she is taking charge one day.
This is textbook for corporate America. Rockwell Automation in Milwaukee did exactly the same thing, the same process, the same ambush notifications when they laid off 75% of their IT staff in October 2019 (including me). It didn't matter what justification was presented, Wisconsin is an "at will" state and can lay off employees for any reason as long as it isn't illegal. Irresponsible way to treat people, and I suspect Brittany fell foul of the same "at will" policy. Bravo to her for standing up for herself, but she was never going to win.
This girl just made herself unemployable.
how exactly?
I feel the same. I don't care what anybody says. Nobody wants a "troublemaker" in the workplace. I am actually right there with her but I hope it doesn't end up biting her in the butt later.
i was a realtor in an open office plan. i hated it. all the older realtors asking me to solve all their tech problems and cracking in the background of my calls. i couldnt even work there. i went home.
Where women should be, home. Also, the sheer laziness of your work ethic is why companies are pouring millions into replacing you with AI.
Good to know that it ended up well for her because usually when people stand up it gets worse, they get removed right away from the rehiring pool. No wonder no one wants to talk to each other these days at the office, there always been a lot of backstabbing but these days is to the fullest everywhere. In tech companies these days is rare the people that last many years or decades in the same job. I only knew a case of a woman who has been working for about 15 years in the same IT company. That company has changed owners several times, massive layoffs, you name it and she has been there all that time. Unfortunately she is known as a topnotch bootlicker, use your imagination to figure out what kind of dirty methods she has been used to stay there and imagine how many people she has back stabbed since she joined (btw she is not a hardworker, she is lazy). The over hiring in my country is like a tradition, the guys who make the forecast revenues always screw it up so their parachute is to always be overstaffed so they can always "reach" the goal and save there ass3s at the expense of the lives of others who will be kicked out mercilessly without any reason and with an extreme short notice...
She’s a liar claiming she’s blindsided. Homegirl had a camera setup recording this soooo she knew what was happening
Good for her! These corporate bozos screwed up as usual, not her.
LOL. They fired a lazy worker and they're the bad ones. Hahahahahaha. If she just worked harder than everyone else, no reason to fire her. But everyone wants to be the victim, especially people recording a video for online clout to their followers.
The other companies are using her like a pawn. And once the caring for her dies down, will fire her. Companies do it all the time, hire someone social media props up as a downtrodden victim to boost their public image, then cut ties 6 months later. But your brain is too Smoot to grasp concepts like these.
AI will replace tech working in 5 years anyway. Learn to trade.
This girl sucked at her job. That’s why she is fired. Move on.
Really, do you not understand ? Largely, the managers can't give a reason for firing due to HR and litigious society. Therefore, can only say downsized or some other generic term
Sometimes you get the elevator, sometimes you get the shaft.
Let’s focus on the questionable part of her termination. They told her she’s being terminated due to poor performance, but then do not have that evidence illustrating / supporting that claim. Knowing they have adverts for recruiting new sales staff, this seems to be a matter of either new sales people are hired to get leads and are let go before those leads close so existing, long time employed sales team close the deals and get all the credit / financial rewards that come with that. And / Or, the company has hiring incentives from government programs that pay them for all new hires as long as they are not released without cause. Poor performance is a cause for termination that could be a loophole in retaining any government incentives.
There needs to be a hardcore, journalist investigation into this organization to understand if any churn practice of new employees is part of a financial strategy.
Lol. SIIIIIIIMP! Companies do not have to break down analytics to fire you for low performance. If she out worked everyone else, she keeps her job. Simple. Quit playing white knight.
job offers? after recording yourself on camera like that?? that stuff is supposed to be confidential
American news is an asylum
I don’t think a company should be expecting privacy when they’re firing people and not telling them the real reason. Companies need to treat people with respect. It’s not respectful to deliver a “canned” line rather than just the truth.
Also not respectful to gossip or be a social butterfly on someone else's dime. Lol. This is why tech employees will all be replaced in 3 to 5 years by AI. All lazy workers wanting to stay home and be unproductive (as shown by a 2023 Harvard study about at home tech worker from covid) results in their replacement. Try working harder than everyone else, and you won't be fired. Do the bare minimum, and you're on the chopping block.
@@Thomas-he4wk, I see your point. Hadn’t considered it from that perspective. There is no doubt what you said is true. Thanks for providing this clarity.
KTLA should do the right thing and hire her. I mean, not in sales, but somewhere...
In California you cannot record someone without their consent. I know this worked out for her, but just know a company and/or the individuals involved can take legal action against you.
At home maybe. At work there is no privacy requirement. Phone, email, PC are all recorded forever.
Too bad for the company. Recording a boss is legal when they are committing illegal activity. What is going to stop that company from lying about you being fired? Companies protect themselves. Publicizing their bad behavior is the only way to stop them.
@@b14m23 Yea, no, the cost of recording all this is a ton...most companies are too cheap
@@BadStructuralEngineeringFirms - Nothing illegal happened, her contract has a clause for performance probationary review, which is standard in almost every professional sales job in most countries.
What's happened here is that she's misled the employer in her interviews by overselling herself and lying about her experience and skills; that allowed her to get her foot in the door but when push came to shove, she couldn't actually do the job at all.
This happens all the time, lots and lots of people apply for professional sales roles because the pay is substantially good, and you can earn serious money if you've negotiated an uncapped commission structure as part of your contract, but most people who apply for these roles don't have any experience in professional sales.
To be clear, if you're someone who spent a few years sitting at a desk for some call centre making outbound calls trying to sell insurance or trying to sell phone contracts or trying to sell internet packages, then that's not professional sales, that's just an entry-level job.
It is that type of environment where she's come from, and I can see that from how she speaks, for instance:
1. She mentioned a "performance improvement plan". This is not something which exists in professional sales, it is something which derives from entry level jobs where they look to teach you certain skills to help you improve at your job. If you've applied for a professional sales role, then the employer is buying into your skill set and the value that you bring to the company (by means of how much revenue you're going to bill to your desk). If you lie about that in your interview (which many do) then you are going to drown when you sit at your desk (which many also do lol).
2. She makes reference to "activity". I can tell you that nobody cares what your activity is: so long as what you're doing is legal, does not invoke complaints, maintains a good relationship with the client, then nobody cares how hard you're working. The only thing that matters is your results. If you can pull in exceptionally good results in 2 hours and want to spend the rest of your day messing about then nobody is going to bat an eye lid at you. But if you spend 10 hours at the job and don't have anything to show for it, then there's a serious problem and you're not suited for the industry.
People need to understand that it is generally professional sales roles that bring in the money for these business which allow them to pay for everybody's job lol. It is high stress, results driven, high demand, and fast-paced; and if you can't handle it, then you need to get out of the way for somebody who can do it.
It's quite a small industry because it's often specialised (in the sense that people tend to stick to their field and don't deviate from it), consequently name dropping happens quite frequently at event conferences and almost all the time there's competitors trying to head hunt you to poach you from rival businesses.
These people are paid well for good reason.
That is not true. Ca is a one person consent state. So you can record a conversation you are having with another person without telling them
You people need to do some research.....this is not 'pandemic related'.
No one will ever hire this woman again. She should start looking into opening up her own business.
Lol someone clearly didn't watch the entire video . She got several job offers 😂
@@weaveandwelfaretookblackmethat surprised me, yea let's hire a girl who's admitted she couldn't make any sales, and then posts this online to slander us. Those companies will find out.
@@tylerh1648well I’m sure those job offers were probably not aggressive sales related in any way. I don’t know she showed some pretty soft skills, she was composed and well prepared almost like the people on the debate team.
lol some dumb companies want her after she showed she will record and post online if things don’t go her way.
'hr' is a worthless department in any company. the title says it all.
Why would you say the employer’s side that they would prefer the interaction to be private? 1st amendment rights… the lady has the right to share what she wants to share
Yes. Post everything.
How about you all shut up and play the clip
I hope she got a great job. I can see this kind of interaction hitting social media because of the poor way it was handled, but not so much if it were properly handled.
Lol. You can't even see she is being used by other companies. A rush to publicly offer a job to socially pat themselves on the back, only to make their brand look better. This is why social media is crap. She also spergged out because she knew she was recording and needed a reaction for her followers. Gross.
@@Thomas-he4wkit sounds like they pick the wrong employee to layoff or fire & got their name thrown in the mud.
Yes, this need to stop, less gossiping
Brittany Pietsch's name has the word pie in it.
Lot of whining happening here.
This can be a learning experience for others which this goes on every day, and the employer should have posted on a job site Cloudfare are looking for temporary workers or something similar!
This is the American way.
I would not post this on tiktok. I would feel afraid I would be labelled a troublemaker. I think the only thing I would use it for is to contact a lawyer and make sure I would get a better outcome. Being fired based on performance when it obviously was not the reason, can be devastating.
People use them to PEEEE 😂😂😂😂😂
Well as the saying goes... "live by the corporation, die by the corporation" - anyone that put themself in a vulnerable position in an untrustworthy and abusive situation, is going to have to deal with the consequences at some point. That tends to be how it works..
open office plans are terrible and horrible because of all the stupid noise.....
This is why you do it in person. You give that person some respect. This is a Tech industry problem. I own and operate my own business and we cannot remote work due to our business nature. If you don't want to be treated like another face behind a screen, you might want to change industries.
He knows what he’s doing.
Nobody wants to get me 2
COme on people.. You are saying good for her ? She is an employee, and company can fire you with no reason as long as its not violating some protected right. This girl felt entitled and was demanding answers from HR? Telling the company what to do by saying they need to explain to her in detail?
No, that isnt the real world. And she should be very very thankful she did get offered a job, because most good job, big corps will never hire her because she is a poison pill.
work ethics over spoilt gen Z
I think if there so confident in there decisions and that there doing a good job and making the right call then they shouldn’t worry about it because there did no wrong. We all know every HR always thinks there the glue that hold everything together. When the place would preform better without them
She haven't closed a sale in 4 months. Of course she should be let go.
Most companies don't care about their staff.
They're already paying for their livelihoods. What more caring do you want? She was at the end of a 90 day probation period. Lol
Shawty kinda bad
Forst dude talks too much.
Needing a reason and not getting one saves the company from frivolous legal actions from employee. The reason was clearly stated, you're not performing at a level that was expected. 😉
Coworkers suck!☠️
She essentially posted a private conversion to social media and jeopardized the company's reputation by doing so. I'm sure she signed a NDA when she got hired, so I wouldn't be surprised if they go after her for breach of contract.
I wouldn’t be so sure with Cloudflare. They have been known to host some heinous stuff. They have been called out before in the past. It’s the limelight they can’t stand.
Lol most ppl don't sign an NDA so keep dreaming
When one is required, NDAs are signed before final contracts for employment or are written into hiring paperwork. If you don't read the fine print, your fault.
Biden’s America
Brittany Pietsch really need to watch the movie Up in the Air starring George Clooney.
Poor baby, welcome to the real world. Pathetic. "you need a safe space?" "your fired, feel safe at home" Any employer can fire you at any time and you never argue with or explain to the person being fired. It will get heated, argumentative, and is the stuff of law suits. "We don't need you, sorry, here is your last check, vacate the office."
i think they fail to see that getting fired.. the company is going to either not hire you back down the road OR you going to be on the very bottom of the list to rehire.
Looks like cloud flare is hiring again.
My my my... Well well well
She needs to Go she’s aggressive ✊🏾
She seems uncooperative and adversarial. The first 90-days is typically a probationary period. They don't need to give you a reason to fire you. The company made a smart move dodging a cancer cell.
I thought about that too. It seems to me that she was under the probationary period. They can let you go during that time if you are not performing well. That appears to be the excuse they gave. I think the issue is the way that they handled the firing process. Also, it doesn't seem right that she wasn't notified of the fact that she wasn't performing up to standard. I feel that should have been addressed while she was working for them. They should have gave her the opportunity to improve...unless...it's an excuse.
Take Away is, Big pay out to play victim
No. The racist DEI has convinced people of what they inteded
Self entitled much? So you lost your job-big deal. Why do you think you have the right to "demand" anything here? It wasn't a good fit-move along. It sucks getting fired, but this video just shows how self centered this new generation is. Why film it? Why show everyone? "look at me!" What a joke. Good luck finding another job.
The problem is that she is clearly being fired by non-playable characters, who might as well be a AI bots reading a canned script. She asked for an explanation, and can't get any specifics. This could be grounds for wrongful termination, if the company can't produce a specific reason why you are being fired, with specific information to support it.
@@carultch I guess that depends on what state this occurred. In CA for example, it is an at will state, meaning you can quit or be fired for any reason. But I wonder what the legality of her video is. Without consent from all parties, this video might not be legal in court. An interesting dilemma indeed...
Sje was there getting a salary for four months to do sales. She didn’t close even 1 sale in 4 months. Math matters.