Are Women Supposed to be Silent in Church? New Testament Professor Responds | Dr. Nijay Gupta
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- On this episode, Dr. Nijay Gupta discussed the role of women in the church and his conversion from Hinduism to Christianity.
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Lisa, thank you so much for this podcast. I came from a legalistic background and started to question things about 8 years ago, so I went to seminary and graduated May 2023. I learned so much about women and their impact in the 1st century church that I had never been taught in church and it really freed me. I’m so glad that others can be exposed to these teachings through this episode.
It's interesting how those of us who embrace the idea that God uses everyone for his kingdom and his glory get accused of allowing culture to influence scripture. The women mentioned here, who against those who would bring out objecctions, were definately leading and teaching in our time when it was not culturally appropriate. If God used women in those times, why would we think that he doesn't want to now.
This was a good interview. Thanks Lisa and Dr. Gupta!
This was so informative & really expanded my thinking!
This episode is full 🙏🏾
Mike Winger did a deep study on this.
What does the Bible say ?
Phoebe delivering a letter is not synonymous with being a pastor or apostle or leader of a church congregation. That’s what the professors infer. Women being MENTIONED doesn’t equate w/women MINISTERING. This type of doctrine is one of the most major factors that got us to where we are in society. Ask God for discernment.
Since a woman could be a pastor in the Old Covenant, a woman
can be a pastor in the New Covenant. Simple really.
I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles, by God.
A Judge was cleared to teach from scripture as he/she gave a verdict, according to Deuteronomy. Since in Judges 4, men went to Deborah to be judged, a woman could teach men, even in the Old Covenant in a public setting.
I agree with this to an extent. Phoebe in fact in the older versions was given the title of a Deacon or Diakonos, which is also interpreted as helper. As time passed, the title was changed to just helper to kind of minimize her role at this time. Who she was at this time in the Faith was very important. Does this give authority or knowledge that a minister of the Faith would have at that time, no. However, this does not diminish her role.
@@8784-l3b A judge and prophetess is different than being a Leader over a New Testament church. I’m blown away that there’s even a debate. It’s like the serpent asking again “did God REALLY say..?” If a woman couldn’t be a high priest nor the head of her home in marriage, she can’t be the head of God’s house.
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(In case the reader in unaware, the word pastor and the word
shepherd are the same word. I prefer shepherd, because it has
obvious meaning to the average person.)
Major modern English translations like the NASB use
the phrasing ...whom I commanded to shepherd My people...
In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation
Some believe that pastor (or shepherd), is a position that
was created in the New Covenant. This is not true. In the Old Testament
shepherds are mentioned multiple times. Often in a negative way.
“My people have become lost sheep;
Their shepherds have led them astray.
-excerpt Jeremiah 50
For an entire chapter on worthless shepherds, the reader may
check out Ezekiel 34.
When the shepherd over Israel died, the people went back into sin. That is because the Judge was the most important spiritual leader of this time period.
But it came about, when the judge died, that they would turn back and act more corruptly than their fathers, in following other gods to serve them and bow down to them; they did not abandon their practices or their obstinate ways.
-excerpt Judges 2
Deborah, full essay read time: 12 minutes, free, postable
Women are magic. But the church in this aeon has mismanaged them. Allegedly.
Who said slavery was wrong?? It's the treatment of the slaves that's was a sin. The injustice the unfairness.
Seriously?
@@HJM0409yes seriously some are slaves of Christ is it sinful?
@@jenisebrooks4308 consider yourself- means operate as a slave of Christ. This is voluntary. It is wrong to dominate another human. Period. But it is right to submit to Christ in your life. Not the same thing at all.
@@HJM0409 everything is voluntary. The consequences are what control us. Working in exchange for goods some may consider slavery which is what a lot slavery may have been and continue to be in a sense. The Bible does say to slaves to obey their masters. Slavery in itself is not a sin it is man abuse of it just like anything else that turns it sinful.
@@jenisebrooks4308 um forced slavery is not “voluntary”