DeepSeek Forces VC's to Rethink Their AI Strategy
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Josh Wolfe, Lux Capital co-founder says the rest of the world can't rely on Chinese models as DeepSeek's tech upends the AI sector earlier this week. He joins Caroline Hyde and Mike Shepard on "Bloomberg Technology" to discuss.
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People talk about China negatively like the West is somebody to TRUST!
This muppet they are interviewing has obviously never heard of secret FISA courts and the CLOUD act.
For third parties subject to these and secondary sanctions, depending on the USA alone isn't smart either.
A healthy dose of competitive alternatives is best.
The West, in particularly US, use lies to smear China a lot!
The West is bad, but they're not China /CCP level of blatant assholes.
This individual appears to harbor a Cold War mentality and a zero-sum mindset, which is unfortunate for today's interconnected world. Such an approach reflects a form of stupidity and arrogance that undermines constructive global progress.
Yes, not mentioning he chose to ignore the censorship of political and racial topics in American models.
@@JiasenLiu Yes, that is exactly what I have found out too!!!
Bloomberg gives him a platform to make self-serving statements.
Full of ignorant and hate.
If the US wants to stay ahead of the game, it should do so with dignity-not by resorting to underhanded tactics to sabotage the competition and tarnish their reputation.
Pride comes before a fall.
America's AI is being developed by Chinese in America while China's AI is being developed by local Chinese. Where are Americans?
*America you are so nice to China every time it has something really nice it just share the code immediately code China and China only 🤗 and even the code it doesn't have or get it to work on its own computer to make it 1,00X times more efficient. LMAO LITERALLY (until China made it open source) and they have a audacity to say China is "catching up?"*
@@Kevin-t8t2n In DEI “training” to un-learn language in favor of new pronouns.
America's reputation traces back to how it was created.
Strongly agreed.
*R1 has five big advantages. 1) It shows its reasoning, so you can spot mistakes and fix them. 2) It’s super accessible-like when PCs FIRST CAME OUT. You don’t need a data center or fancy GPUs; it even runs on your phone offline. 3) It’s cheaper and faster. 4) It’s free. 5) It’s open source, so you can tweak it however you want. Any one of these would be a game-changer, but all five together? That’s why we saw a stock crash yesterday.*
keep crying while DeepSeek shares it to the world. open source
US developers turn greedy when they sense the success of their AI and they have the guts to claim Open!!!
copied?! dude doesn't even blink. wow
Tiananmen Square decades ago or School shootings over the last decade.
Deep Seek says the reason the US has school shootings while the rest of the world doesn't is: High Gun Ownership, Lax Gun Laws, Gun Culture, Individualism vs. Collective Safety, Power of Gun Lobbies, Policy Gridlock, Mental Health Gaps, Social Fragmentation, Sensationalized Coverage & Reactive Measures.
China market is not close off to Google, Facebook etc.These company's do not want comply with China law on content filtering and data location. They chose not to be in China on pressure by US, government.
EXACTLY, all he says are lies.
@@maggiechan33Yeah.... right.
TikTok fulfilled all conditions required by US government, even stores it's data with oracle center in Texas monitored by some US officials ...
Still US wants it banned .😅
Not just the US government. Shareholders and the general public are against it. If Google, Facebook etc. f"k up even once... then China can commandeer their bank accounts, their servers, their staff etc. It's not a democracy where they will get a trial that tries to be fair (or at least looks fair). Even Russia would give you a trial in some cases. In reality there should be a world decentralised social media / search engine. But unfortunately that would also be blocked and disliked by many. Also not everyone in the world is equally on the internet. It does not always represent world views equally. It always depends on connectivity and technology penetration.
this guy has such a loser mindset. you can beat it on what you do , so cry to your government for help.
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America's AI is being developed by Chinese in America while China's AI is being developed by local Chinese. Where are Americans?
Dude shut up about Tik Tok. Your dumb fear mongering.
If DeepSeek was built by all Chinese team without any foreign workers, why cannot the US? why are there so many Indian developers as H1B applicants? As a group, some even reached as high as CEOs, they produced nothing big or innovative whatsoever over the past 25 years, except for some big puffy words, they are minions for the tech bros like Musk and Zuck (by the way, they suck), some don't even have any diploma from an accredited US university. They are competing directly against talented young American college graduates and experienced American knowledge workers, this is absurd and unacceptable, DT needs to make good on his campaign promises, otherwise, it is sheer lying and cheating, it is a betrayal and backstabbing.
Those Indian developers gave you Chat GPT & China it’s Deepseek after working on ChatGPT model✌️🤦
American culture and education struggle to compete globally because our system prioritizes individuality and happiness over discipline and performance. In many Asian cultures, children are raised with strict rules, high expectations, and little tolerance for failure, leading to academic dominance. It’s not about innate intelligence but upbringing. Top U.S. universities had to limit Asian admissions because, based purely on merit, they would dominate. Rather than trying to change our culture, the best strategy-just as with the atom bomb and the space race-we use our wealth and economy to attract the world’s top minds and we win
Trying to win by only competing with our homegrown stock and watch us fall behind every developed nation in tech and capability within less than a decade.
@@jimstr10 you mean you want to hire intellectual mercenaries? Do not forget, they are only for hire to the highest bidder. The strategy may work in the past when US has a monopoly over know-how and therefore could stifle competition, but Internet spread the knowledge fairly quickly across the global in days if not hours, and how rich is the US with $36 trillion of debt? plus stock market rout of $1 trillion because of DeepSeek. The game is changing, paradigm is shifting, the old modus operandi is no longer working, there has to be a change otherwise calamity will happen, like stranded NASA astronauts, LA fire, F35 crash, DCA mid-air collision, it is on and on, it is time for a change.
@@Noobmaster69_bro Do your homework, is Sam the scammer Indian? A large percentage of the AI team is actually Chinese. DeepSeek is a game changer, a new paradigm of open-source AI that can do much more with much less, do not claim credibility for other people's breakthrough using a closed source relic of bygone era.
@@jimstr10 if the system is not working, it has to be fixed, quite easy workaround: to value math Olympiad over jocks, valedictorian over homecoming queens, right? why cannot you do what the Asian culture does to win the AI race? why hold people back because of their merit, simply because they are not European or African American? Blind and dumb ethnocentricity does not make any sense whatsoever. Happiness is not given individually for free but earned via hardworking and discipline. Why do you want to hire intellectual mercenaries rather than your own people? with $36 trillion national debt, the current situation is not sustainable, wakeup calls: stranded astronauts, LA fire, F35 crash, DC mid-air collision, time for a change.
These people are disgustingly horrible..When they can't compete they badmouth you to bring you down
DeepSeek, superior engineering, superior performance ,open source and free. It's not a copy. You can't handle it.
Make CloseAI open again!😂😂😂
Josh talks about China's AI censorship which exist in ChatGPT and OpenAI as well! I run ChatGPT and ask why are Americans lying about Xinjiang and it gives me a runaround answer!
The thing I love and which is fabulous about DeepSeek is that the team has a woman, the BRILLIANT Luo Fu Li,
an essential member whom renders DeepSeek so engaging and user friendly. Not sure if western AI groups have female leaders.
It is Chinese engineers in China competent with Chinese engineers in US!!!! Got it?!!!hahahahah😂😂😂😂😂
RIGHT, Lily !!!
America's AI is being developed by Chinese in America while China's AI is being developed by local Chinese. Where are Americans?
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Doing fentanyl.
@@Kevin-t8t2n
Doing fentanyl.
America's AI is being developed by Chinese in America while China's AI is being developed by local Chinese. Where are Americans?
maybe they are not smart enough to reach that level to design AI.
Just because Josh can't do it. Hate is the way to go.
Correct.
When one is incompetent, start being vicious.
😂😂😂 he’s saying that in the US you find truth 😂😂😂
That’s why VCs make the big bucks! They throw billions of dollars in other peoples money at AI training, then when an outsider toses a solution in the market that cost next to nothing they change the subject from their zero ROI to what the government should give them to make their lives easier!
United States of Tonya Harding.
American auto makers spend billons and 3 to 5 years to develop and bring a new model car to market...China does it in 6 months ... that's right 6 months...
This guy sounds more like a politician than a VC.
Please do not interview propagandist
*America you are so nice to China every time it has something really nice it just share the code to China and China only 🤗 and even the code it wasn't able to put on its own computer to make it 1,00X times more efficient. LMAO LITERALLY*
yes everything should be invented and patented here in america. the rest of the world should rot in hell.
This guy is a clown!
Is he fear mongering? He's long Nvidia?😅
This guy is a delusional patriot.
In less than a month, whatever this expert said will be invalid. No one can keep up or predict what is going on with AI.
He is NOT an expert; he is a sinophobe with a big nose.
Well, Open AI’s business is absolutely something needs to be recalibrated. No money suckers.
If US just spend less time to demonize China all that nonsense, and spend more time to study then it would of been a lot better.
The AI grifters have rolled out their propaganda
try to search for ouighour... try to search for palestinian children...
when talking about Chinese it implies to yellow skin Chinese vs white west
AI competition is at least half between Mainland Chinese, and Chinese working in the US.
So this guy is advocating unlimited h1b visa...
Trump’s first term China Initiative really won the hearts and minds of the Chinese researchers 😂
The issue I have with Deepseek is it's not current it cuts off in 2023 2024 on most queries
EVEN if it is copied? The US empire is a freak show!
You have altready lost. You need to admit it America
So if the chinese AI student stay in America is American. if the chinese AI student went back to China. They are the enamy. That make sense. 😂😂😂😂
US sticking to the sore loser mentality
You really are saying that the US doesn’t have censorship? Really? 😢
The real issue with US capitalism today is the unchecked influence of asset managers, institutional investors, and tech elites who prioritize hoarding wealth over creating a fair and equitable system. These profit-driven individuals, often blinded by greed, perpetuate the dangerous myth that war and conflict are pathways to prosperity. In reality, their actions only serve to enrich the top 1%, while the rest of society bears the costs. This isn’t just capitalism. It’s a system rigged to benefit the few at the expense of the many. This dude needs to stop popping ketamine.
Apparently this guy has not used DeepSeek LLM on local where you can ask anything about China including Tiananmen Square protests.
dead of apis? ai acting as a user? kinda like all the bots meta will deploy on facebook and probably all the other social network it has.... faking usage and stealing data seems to be the new normal....
the US claiming moral victories is hilarious. Enjoy it, cause its the only victory you will get LOL
So tired of American exceptionalism and desire to control every sphere, not to mention the weaponisation of the dollar
因为这个大模型，中国显著地减少了人类在地球上的碳排放，减少了气候恶化的脚步
Well we sure as hell aren't expecting to find our brightest in the MAGA line at Walmart... Trump voters Trump cabinet picks won't be winning any Nobel Prizes or Howard Scholarships or Mathmatic comtest...😊
What human capital? Speak English please
Are you even paying attention to who's in charge who Trump says are our best our brightest....😅
This guy is a joke
“Copy”😅😅😅
Ahhh... China!
😂😂😂😂
Josh Wolfe is a smart and knowledgeable guy
Meowwwww
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All these China/CCP/Xi Jinping glazing bots in the comments. 😂
I'm glad to see smart guys like this in charge of allocating vast capital. He is 100 percent right, IMO. The future is in the hands of young, passionate, naive dreamers... many of whom will fail... but a few will change the course of history and the country.
We also want to protect our IP... not like what happened to Cisco and other great tech companies that got undermined over the years.