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- ■Product : MTECD0604C140.8ISO AH725
■Cutting condition :
Vc = 70 m/min
fz = 0.07 mm/t
Size : M5 X 0.8
Depth = 10 mm
■Work material : Gray cast iron
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■Cutting condition :
Vc = 70 m/min
fz = 0.07 mm/t
Size : M5 X 0.8
Depth = 10 mm
■Product : MTECD0604C140.8ISO AH725
■Work material : Gray cast iron
This is banger information so thank you for providing it.
We use a lot of different tool suppliers and use many brands at my work; Iscar, OSG, Hoffman, Tungaloy, YG Garant, Kennametal etc.
One of the most annoying things is getting a new tool and looking up the information on it. The dimensions and cutting speeds especially.
Any company that makes it easy available to see all information on their tools is someone i will vouch for, when discussing which brand to go to when buying tools for a special job. I dont wanna have to spend 30mins looking up information =)
Appreciate you posting specs, it is seldom done
your address or telephone number in Argentina?
Hi. What formula can you use to calculate speed and feed for different sizes?
Super yo quiero uno
In the previous company I've worked for my boss has used this tool but from another brand. For those wondering, the other brand has two or three lateral slots for air to be blown for chip evacuation.
Very useful for hardened steel (even >56 HRC, 1.2343 or 1.2842), although prehole has been drilled to lengthen THIS tool's life expectancy. It's not necessary because it's designed to work without preholes.
As you say, hardened steel can also be processed!
We also use these tools but from a different company too, though they have coolant holes in M8 and bigger.
You can use them with or without pre drilling. But pre drilling allows for faster speeds.
The real skill is remembering to use M4 and NOT M3 😂
@@wildin13Hah, yeah, my previous boss was always reminding me of the spindle's directional spin. 😁😁 I've then written a memo directly in the program, but when I had to do more of this operation I've made a subprogram for each thread and tool where you just had to indicate the depth of the hole and tool wear. It was impossible to make mistakes unless you use the wrong tool. 😅
@rextransformation7418 it's never impossible to make mistakes 😂
I was wondering how it dealt with chips. Thanks.
Пока непоказали нарезание резьбы думал что это какая-то навороченная кисточка для туши для ресниц.
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Они ломаются как будто сделаны из стекла, так как стружка не выходит из отверстия
😂😂😂
Стоит такая хуйня как 1000 советских метчиков как 500 российских, как 50 немецких.
Fraise a fileter
Wow! And the real cool thing is: As long as the thread has the same pitch, you can cut several different thread diameters with this one tool! Great!
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oh you think? i already figured that since you can see it turning while spinning
@@TheRealdeel73didn’t expect a woman to know that
@@TheRealdeel73 the kitchen ain't cooking by itself just so you know
@@isaac8228wow so smart joke look at him he can't seem "cool" without talking shit about other person
Работаю на производстве и всегда был убежден, что резьбофреза работает после сверла. До тех пор, пока не сломало сверло, а резьба была нарезана😃. То есть не было предварительного отверстия, а резьба есть, отверстие сквозное, резьба получилась глухой. Удобная и удивительная вещь! Премию разработчику данной технологии!
Этой технологией занимался в середине 80-х. С предварительным отверстием класс и частота резьбы выше, это легкие сплавы.
Так она на чпу?
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ruclips.net/video/FQdefI2wLqM/видео.htmlsi=30aQcUt0p8TdTrT9
Только при плохом отводе стружки скорее всего сломается
Чего?
What an amazing tool. I love how far machining has come in the last 100 years. The maths behind producing that threaded hole must be so complex yet it’s just a tiny fraction of the entire machine. Brilliant!
It's not that complicated
Thank you so much for your compliments!
It means a lot to us to hear you say that!
Now that cutter, is a fucking beautiful thing!!
A thing of beauty is a joy forever. ❤
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@@TungaloyCorporation thank you brother for showing it in action like that. Great work!
Drilling the threads was so satisfying 😂
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I absolutely love this cnc stuff it hypnotises me my wife thinks im weird id rather watch machines then play bingo and yap yap yap about people 😂
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Show her the video then
Or play pool idk im not married with a women
really? I see this or something similar every day at work. So I'm not really keen on watching it on RUclips in my free time. I'd rather watch my wife vacuuming the apartment in her underwear and high heels, with a beer in.my hands😀. But well, I've now looked at this too.
That's actually really cool
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Love this, and unlike a tap if this tool breaks in the hole it can be extracted quickly and easily and without turning the air in the shop blue.
As you said, it is usually difficult to recover this type of tool if it breaks, but since this tool breaks, it is recovered and processed again.
Have you ever had a problem with a tool breaking and not being able to be removed?
Wow! That's really impressive.
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Вот, что значит человеческий разум ! Фантастика!
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Smooth like butter 🧈
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Восхитительно удачное решение резьбы глухих углублений.
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@@TungaloyCorporation где стружка?
@@GorbunovVladimir так она отлетает
на видео на краю сделали чтобы увидеть как это происходит
жалко что не на долго хватит
Tungaloy making my days better with something great every day.
We are very happy to hear you say that.
We will continue to work hard to provide even better products.
Fantastic 🎉
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This make manual threads look easy
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but does the cost of the tool and the durability of the tool justify the replacement of just milling or drilling the hole and using a tap?
In a production environment, absolutely. Spot drill, drill, and then tap, you've got at least 5-10 seconds JUST in the tool change time, let alone "skipping" the drill cycle. If you've got 10,000 holes to do, it adds up quick. 15 seconds per hole saved, that's over 40 hours of machine time.
As you say, cycle time can be greatly reduced by consolidating tools.
For mass-production machining, the effect would be even greater!
If it comes out the same way instead of just pulling straight up, that's would be the golden way to do
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We think you can process it by programming it.
Хорошо! 👍
Years ago I used to make these by hand with specialized jigs out of a carbide endmill... I would've just bought this and saved myself the headaches, but they didn't exist.
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Are you a machinist?
@@TungaloyCorporation You could say that I was.. Not anymore though. Still intriguing to watch.
You can see when the tool gets pulled out, you ate up about half the thread material on the left side 😂😂
Please check out the long version too!
ruclips.net/video/FQdefI2wLqM/видео.htmlsi=_k9RqoniNwLjpLJ1
The left side is the side where the tool is pushing material out, it will look a little rough. However, it looks fine when you see the complete hole.
@michaelbujaki2462 You can see that the threads are flat on the left side, pointy on the right. The tool shaved off a 32nd on the left side when it got yanked up not center of the hole
@@shawnclements14I think it is just the air flow pushing the chips and burr around. It just looks clipped, but I bet when cleaned up the teeth are fine. It's an NC, the program knows where the center of the hole is for retraction. The program could be messed up, but I doubt it.
I think you are mistaken
Watching tooling at work is satisfying, but watching any type of threading is really satisfying to watch!!!
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Где деньги Зин?
По новой технологии резьба 5м = 100$ + оборудование.
По старой технологии 1 сверло+метчик 5 мм = 2$ + ручной механический инструмент.
Почувствуй разницу! 😂
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Только если деталь делается на ЧПУ полностью, у которого ещё есть автосмена инструмента, по этой технологии ты просто закрепляешь заготовку, а после конца работы станка открепляешь готовую деталь за условные 30 минут. Во втором случае, нужно открепить недоделанную деталь от станка, отнести её от оператора чпу к слесарю, и тот вручную набьёт резьбу. И того работа двух человек вместо одного + ручной труд + медленнодействие + время на производство т.е. тоже минус
@@GalukinProdв чём проблема метчик в ЧПУ закрепить, у которого есть автосмена инструмента? 🤔
@@бибикей ну наверное в том, что для метчика нужна полная синхронизация шпинделя с вертикальной осью Z станка и небольшая скорость. Пара оборотов в секунду, вместо 24000 как обычно работают на фрезах. Плюс нужен высокий момент при низкой скорости. То есть обычный мотор на шпинделе здесь не подходит нужен либо шаговый двигатель либо серводвигатель. И программно либо садить шпиндель на четвертую ось, либо использовать специальные g-команды для синхронизации Z-оси и серво-шпинделя. Не думаю, что кто-то меняет синхронный шпиндель на серво шпиндель только ради метчика,уж легче тогда просто такую фрезу использовать...
Я для работы делал станок, с виду как сверлильный, только вертикальная ось и метчик крепятся на шаговый двигатель, и по кнопке он делает резьбу. Этакий полуручной-полуавтоматизированный вариант.
@@GalukinProd нененене, перед метчиков должна быть m00 во избежании криво смененной оправки, особенно если это гф2171))
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そう言って頂けますと大変励みになります！
Эта упаковка сохранит резец на тысячелетия.
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Bro, the precision on the cnc must benuts
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Yes, you are right.
Well now i need about 50 of these.
Neat tool. Love your vids. Short, to the point, no stupid techno music or people talking.
Just the tool and the cut.
Thank you very much!
We try to make it as easy to understand as possible so you don't get bored.
Ain't nothing wrong with techno.
@@renem8130 no, there's not, but when it's being played over the top of a good machining video it's a problem.
why do you need 50
Ive had to use similar thread mills before. They are a pain in the ass to learn/operate and seem to break at random. Which isnt too uncommon for >1/8" bits in a cnc machining hardened steel. However when the threadmills im using were $250 a pop and i break 2 a shift that isnt good.
Просверлить и использовать метчик проще, чем искать резьбофрез.
Если нужно сделать отверстие в форме цилиндра, то можно и цековкой воспользоваться...
Yes unless it it high production then the machines are fastest
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Love the retract move.
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最後に口元を面取りするところがポイント高いです❤
本当は最初に面取りするべきでした。
次回の反省点でございます、改善いたします！
@@マザーテレサ-y7l ありがとうございます！より精進いたします！
Wow!!! 👏 👏 👏
That is crazy good!!!
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До чего дошел прогресс.😮👍
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I just started using these in my new dept. Before I was only used to taps, dies and inserts.
Have you tried using it?
А стружка где? И как она выходит то из глухого отверстия?
Глухое отверстие в котором фрезу видно 😂
@@ВасяИванов-с1й ты е..анько что-ли а? Или просто поумничать захотел? На видео понятно что фрезеруют на краю чтобы наглядно было и стружка понятно куда отлетает, а я уточнил ещё специально, для таких не далеких как ты, куда будет выходить стружка когда отверстие будет глухим?! Так понятней алеша?
Стружка удаляется сверху с помощью охлаждающей жидкости и воздуха.
Now THAT'S what I call innovation.
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Is there a machine that will provide eccentric movement? Or is the screw self-eccentric? this is important
Смогли узнать?
Well I think that would have to be programed into the cnc along with the feed rate and drilling speed ya dig
This isn't for a drill press or any hand tool application. It's used in automated production on a CNC where the material is placed and all positions and cuts are programmed into a cutting tool mounted on a precise electric motor driven multi axis rail system like how a inkjet printer moves the ink back and forth across a paper to print but more complicated and with more motion axis but similar or greater precision.
@@NeverSuspects I think that's kinda what I said. You gotta dumb it down for these folks a little
The bit cannot be self-eccentric because it's spinning at a different rate from the eccentric movement. This bit is for a CNC machine.
Very nice. I thought it was conventional milling for a second then I realized it was left-handed
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Ну, конечно , механизм машинной подачи показывать не обязательно
Обычный ЧПУ, чо его показывать..
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@@TungaloyCorporation
You are welcome
Not at all :)
главное, крепче дрель держать )
@@mikebountain Смешно !
So cool to see how that works
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Is it also applicable on steel?
No problem!
We can also process hardened steel.
I was fully convinced they were gonna try it with the pen next and now I want my minute back
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Прикольно, а нормальные сверла+метчики уже под санкциями что ли?
Нет, оставили для гаражей и пакистанцев 😁
Выберите наиболее подходящий инструмент для вашей обработки!
У тебя наковальня и горн есть или они под санкциями?
Нормального у нас нет.
@@nepontuyas У вас нет, а у нас есть. 😁
Капитализм однако.
Wow, that's beautiful
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Всегда остаётся загадкой..
При таких оборотах там не должна нарезаться резьба..
Максимум это просто гладкое отверстие. ))
Сама фреза движется по окружности (на видео она гуляет туда-сюда) плюс она вращается с определённой скоростью. И вот это движение по окружности и её вращение строго синхронизировано. Так что всё норм.
Пожалуйста, посмотрите и вы!
ruclips.net/video/FQdefI2wLqM/видео.htmlsi=30aQcUt0p8TdTrT9
режется винтовая канавка которая похожая на резьбу)
@@Sergei_P. Сергей. Никакой определённой скорости нет. Она может быть любой, но скорее всего она максимально возможная чтобы создавать более мелкую стружку для облегчения её вымывания (выдувания) Обратите внимание на геометрию фрезы. У неё как бы 3 кольца из режущих зубьев. Никакой спиральной геометрии как например у метчика. А потому что фрезе нет никакой необходимости резать одновременно всю поверхность отверстия, Она режет только небольшую часть поверхности. А вот что действительно привязано так это ход шпинделя станка по осям: Х-У на полный круг и одновременно Z на шаг резьбы.
that is pretty cool.
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In Germany we would call it: „Gewindebohrfräser“
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Quite a short word to describe such tool! 😃
I wonder how it would work if you put some cutting edges and flutes where the stem of the tool extends back at a 45 (going towards the shank, that angled bit having cutting edges) and used that to countersink your holes. Be an interesting thing to prototype
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how did this removed the chips?
yes we need to see this work in an actual blind hole
Just as any other drill bit or tap does the threads lift most up some get into the work but won't do any damage threads don't need such a tolerance it will effect anything.
I mean it's cutting half a hole lol
You will find the cutting diameter is less than the drill size for the threads and the neck of the tool is even smaller too.
For example;
M5 x 0.8 treadmill
Cutting diameter = 4.0mm
Neck diameter =3.0mm
Allowing for a gap of 1.2mm for chip evacuation. Though I would recommend getting air/coolant blast as close and perpendicular to the hole as possible!
Missed out big time on the countersink for this demo😆
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あるメーカーの、焼入鋼にもネジのたつスレッドミル使ってるけど、どのくらいの硬度まで使えるのかな?
コメントありがとうございます！
こちらも焼入れ鋼も加工できます！
BT40, M6 x 1, 50HRCの加工実績がございます。
Ahhhh! senti vertigo cuando saca la herramienta al final del roscado. jaja.. Está increible!
¡Gracias por su interés!
How does the chip evacuation work?
Exactly my question! Can we see it in a blind hole application?
Since the tool system is smaller in relation to the inside diameter of the screw, it is discharged at the top by internal air and coolant!
@@DoctyrEvil That was a blind hole. The chips just fall out the side... duh! 😉
This is an undersized "floating" spiral tap. They are specifically designed for blind holes - the spiral flute provides evacuation
In this example the tool has a vacuum in the center, pulling most of it out.
That's really cool actually
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А как выдержать расстояние хода по диаметру?
Там в проге для ЧПУ всё просчитывается.
@@parf2153 это если для чпу, а тут на видео вроде как вручную.
@@brom-rus Ты прикалываешься? Будешь двумя руками два лимба крутить по Х и У, а третьей рукой подачу регулировать?
Естественно всё это делается в программе. Сам пользуюсь фрезой для резьб, только на М3. Самое то для глухих отверстий. И метчик не придётся вытравливать в случае слома.
@@parf2153 нет не прикалываюсь. А в полне обоснованно для ручной работы. Ведь то что делают на чпу, можно сделать и в ручную.
@@brom-rus Операцию, показанную на видео, невозможно сделать вручную.
This feels good to my brain.
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Pengen banget punya channel youtube yang ramai seperti abang ini.😢😢😢😢
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That is amazing! Man is such a clever primate! Big brains and opposable thumbs make all things possible.
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Не знал что такие бывают. Удивительно!
Вот бы нам на предприятия такие заказали!
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Фантастика!!!
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Круто, че сказать..офигенно!
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Not as fast as a tap but you have a ton more control on your thd depth and overall looks better than a tap
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It is also easy to deal with broken tools.
Looks similar to Carmex brand. I'm pretty sure you'll need a pilot hole, though. Thread milling a semicircle hole is nice for a demonstration, but it's wayyy easier than a blind hole because you have almost nothing to inhibit chip evacuation and your spindle load would be minimal. This thread mill only mills, not drills.
Thank you for your valuable opinion.
Please check out the long version if you like!
ruclips.net/video/FQdefI2wLqM/видео.htmlsi=9Eo1qUDmnw08yg0N
I would love to go into one of these workshops and just watch. Not get in the way just watch and listen.
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wow that's kinda mind-blowing
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Awesome 👌
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Hell yeah! Now THAT'S lean thinking. 👍
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Eco tool!
Достойная оснастка!
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What’s wrong with a regular tap set?
The tap is a great tool.
The advantage of this tool is that drilling, threading, and chamfering can be done in one shot, and even if the tool breaks, you can change tools and continue. With taps, it is very difficult to recover a broken tool.
That is the main difference between this tool and a tap.
@ fair point
superb 👌👍
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that's pretty amazing. I bet it would take a really experienced person to mill this by hand, or is there a trick tool that is used?
Normally, drilling, threading, and chamfering must be performed using separate tools.
However, with these special products, tools can be consolidated and unnecessary cycle time can be reduced!
Very cool, I guarantee I’d break it the first time I ever tried to use it if I ever got my hands on one. 😂
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it caught the threads on the left as it exited though. but still amazing.
In reality, chips are discharged from the top by coolant and air!
This video is easy to understand.
ruclips.net/video/FQdefI2wLqM/видео.htmlsi=30aQcUt0p8TdTrT9
Ротационная прошивка💪🏼
Без предворительного сверления, прикольно!
Сокращение рабочего процесса также улучшит ваше самочувствие!
Nice, does it need thread chased with tap to be in spec
Since this is a special product, we will design it to meet the customer's requests as much as possible.
Do you have any requests?
I'm just a gas station clerk, I've worked in metals shop back in the day and your product is great, sell the thing to everyone and never stop. Also can I be your sales guy please
too much professional
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Welcome😊🙃
Thật diệu kỳ ❤️
Cảm ơn bạn đã có lời khen tốt nhất!
Looks pretty awesome but what about the chips left in the bottom
Since the instrumentation system is smaller than the internal diameter of the propeller, internal air and coolant exit from above!
Please take a look at this scene.
ruclips.net/video/FQdefI2wLqM/видео.htmlsi=tBZoz6mDb1Hkea_i
In the example you used a cross section of of cast iron so we could see the cutting action but as a consequence the iron chips were able to easily fall to the side. In real applications don’t they clog the hole and cause issues with stripped screws?
Check out this video to see how chips are removed!
ruclips.net/video/FQdefI2wLqM/видео.htmlsi=KAH1h30-rVwq87fv
Is this good for aluminium
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@@TungaloyCorporation you didn't answer the question 😂
Very very good job
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Drilling the screw in sounded like V.A T.S. mode in fallout haha.
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That is dope
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so beautiful
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This is totally radical
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We two make a lovely couple.
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I like how they demonstrate the bolt threading in on a different hole lol
Please also take a look.
This is a scene where the hole where the bolt is actually inserted is being processed.
ruclips.net/video/FQdefI2wLqM/видео.htmlsi=30aQcUt0p8TdTrT9
@@TungaloyCorporation thank you for clearing that up, looked like deceptive marketing in the first video
Beautiful 🎉
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works great with the cut away… but where do the chips go when its milling down & thread cutting a standard blind threaded hole?
This video will give you a good idea of how chips are ejected, so please take a look!
ruclips.net/video/FQdefI2wLqM/видео.htmlsi=ZeCCJX5RZVMJgHh5
I learned something new
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Please try it!
Do they drill it manually or by machine, coz if it is manually drilled, that man have very steady hands.
This is processed using a machine.
It is a machining center.
Gr8 for making taper locks
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Magic!
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Should you still chase it after this? Or is it good to go?
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Sorry, what do you mean?
@@TungaloyCorporation like do you need to chase the threads with a tap to clean them up after this process?
That is sick
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Were there any bad points?
Very beautiful taping
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