A Full Guide on AstroPixelProcessor [Astrophotography Stacking Software]
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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Just discovered this channel, this is great! I am a long time user of PixInsight, but my subscribers have been suggesting I try out APP - so here I am, and this tutorial is extremely helpful. Thank you very much!
This is a great video Tim, because you explain the process very well indeed. Normally I watch a video and have automatic questions pop into my mind, it's the same with your content but you actually instantly answer those questions as you go! Your doing some great work here with you clear and concise explanations. I love the fact that you cover the 3 main processing applications, APP, PI, PS (mentioned). Well done to you, remarkable!
Thanks. This was a really good tutorial. I followed along with you today with the 30-day free trial version of APP and got my best processing results ever. I didn't even need to do any further tweaks in PS when I was done with the stretch & saturation in APP itself. I will definitely continue using with the paid version.
Very informative and well presented!.I'll have to seriously consider purchasing it.
Sold me. APP here I come. Thanks Tim looking forward to the follow up videos.
You are a legend, straight to it, without all the crap!
Thank you for this! Very, very helpful for a newbie!
Great video Tim. Thanks.
I just started my trial of APP and this was incredibly easy to follow. Thank you, Tim!
By the looks of things, combining APP, PI, & Photoshop will be a way forward. Cheers!
Well Tim, that was all clear as mud ;-) Joking..... looks like another stacking program to look at seriously, seems pretty comprehensive. Thanks for the tutorial on it!!
Thanks for your efforts in explaining (and simplifying for us) your workflow in APP. As as result I’m trying out the 30 day trial license and enjoying it! I also tried PixInsight after watching your video series, and decided to invest both the cash and time to learn how to use it. In this video you say you prefer APP for stacking and PI for further processing, a stage I haven’t yet reached with PI, so more learning to undertake!
Very well done!
Excellent overview Tim👌🏼
Thanks for the clear video. APP is what I need as a beginner as it leads you through each step.
Love stacking with this software. It helped me a great deal with my images. I searched every corner of the internet to find a good tutorial for stacking and combining H-Alpha and RGB shot with an OSC. This program offers a good and relatively easy way to do this and I figured it out eventually but a clear video on this by somebody with more specialized knowledge would be great. Thanks for the tutorials!
Great how did you combine H alpha And R GB files to stack properly
@@craigcox3393 I would not stack them together. With an OSC integrate the rgb stack and the Ha stack separately and mix them together in post processing. Under Tools Combine RGB in APP can be used for this.
Absolutely EXCELLENT.
Thanks for this tutorial I have just done my first ever start to finish process using this!
Thanks for this great guide on APP! I've been using this software for some time and I absolutely love it :-) It deserves wider recognition!
I agree!
Another amazing vid, thx so much for a really straightforward explanation of this software. I commentor on my channel recommended I look at this platform. Being new to the hobby this past year I’ve been using DSS, but it’s now time for me to move forward with the next chapter of my post processing journey. I gave a PP a try this evening, but failed to use all the settings properly and was not entirely satisfied with the outcome. I’m gonna give this a try again tomorrow using some of the specifications you listed, with a few adjustments based on my specific setup to see what I get. Thx again and happy hunting this Spring!
I've watched this (or let run in the background 😉) three times now and think I learned something new every time. Danke!
Perfect!
Thank you for this! I'm tired of DSS an all of its issues with my data. I don't want to learn PI so I downloaded the APP trial. After running through a few sessions in APP with your help, I think I'll purchase now.
Great video. Now I know some of the options in all those tabs. I have been using APP to extract the Ha and Oiii signals from my images captured with the L-eNhance filter and it works really well and seems to produce results that look much less noisy than I can achieve using Pixinsight for calibration and integration.
Thank you , that was really helpful . 😀
Thanks for this tutorial, a great jump start
You're welcome!
Tim - wow, have been waiting to use APP...tried on my own but first use was a disaster...and this 30 minute video will now save me hours of frustration...I’m powering up the Mac cheese grater now to process my NGC6960 subs now...and looking forward to taking on the big mosaic challenge with APP...you made it look so easy...must be those extra neurons that you have and I lack...please keep sharing your experience, skills and wisdom...
Great tutorial Tim... as always your videos are great!!!! thanks for sharing. I use APP for my processing, it’s just so easy to use... this is just an amazing software...I’m not good at processing so APP sort of takes care of the entire process for me... it is also one that allows you to do a yearly subscription that can be less Painful on the wallet...
Excellent tutorial, helped me a lot.
Glad it helped!
Super helpful overview of some of the "insane" features of APP. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I love how you can extract O3 and HA from the image.
Great video. I just subscribed. Thank you.
I've been using APP for 2-3 months. Didn't even finish the 30-day trial before I decided the program would be worth the cost. Most of what I've learned about APP is self-taught, because all the guides I found were TOO in-depth in my opinion and using datasets that are nowhere near like mine. Your tutorial is ACE. Simplified and by your video alone I picked up a few tricks. Light Pollution Removal for example. I've been using way too large boxes. Also the Integration-methods were explained very good by your video.
If you haven't done so already, I highly recommend you post it on the APP forums as well as this tutorial is perfect for beginners.
I'll think about it!
Nice video Tim, love APP
Thanks 👍
I purchased this excellent program after seeing this video
Thanks
Thanks Tim. This was very helpful and I think you are right that APP is better than DSS.
very helpful
THANK YOU so much for this video - it is MUCH better than those loaded on the APP website! Also, thank you for you DSS, APP, Pixinsight comparison video - I was looking for something to help with stitching together mosaics (I captured my first 4-panel mosaic of Andromeda last weekend) - after watching your video, I downloaded the 30-day trial...spent all day yesterday struggling with it, until I discovered this video this morning. I'm going to go back and reprocess, based upon your excellent tutorial! You should contact the developer and have him put your video on his website in place of his (and the misleading mosaic video!). I'm looking forward to your mosaic video. Thanks again!!
I love this!! Please do a processing drizzled data video with APP, your guides are so good.
Noted
You provided a lot of information. Level of detail was great. My only complaint was the speed of your presentation, way too fast for my old brain. That was particularly the case when explaining the tools tab. I will watch it several time, which may help to anticipate your explanation. I appreciate your work and hope you will be kind to us who don't think at your pace.
Strong!
Great video, Tim.
I have used APP for a while now. It's so easy for stacking and it does a great job.
You can turn off the bell in the config ;)
I know, but I wanted to share this beautiful feature with all of you😉
I've got 30 day trial APP,.
nice to watch your tutorial.
Thanks for explaining so clearly. Now you make me want to buy the software ;) Anyway, made a photo of M81, the photo is oké, there is just so much light pollution in my 6x6m backyard that the light pollution callulation did its best.... my next door neighbor has 3 of this orange street light on his house. So thats to much. But thanks again!!
I downloaded APP for free trail and used it couple of times. I couldn't leave the Pixinsight and the power, went back there!
Excellent video. I've used APP since it first came out and love how it has evolved. BTW, PixInsight does have a Normalization process. I used to use it when I did all my pre-processing in PI. Now, it's APP. I learned a couple of different options that I hadn't really looked at before. You mentioned the Integration option of longer and shorter subs using the Exposure setting for the Iris nebula. Did you like and use that result? I'll have to check out your mosaic tutorial(s) Thanks.
Yes, i used that result. The shorter exosures got rid of some noise, and the longer got me the faint detail
Thanks for the tutorial. Really helpful for knowing what to select and what to ignore. In retrospect though, maybe testing APP with an 1800 sub stack might not have been the cleverest idea. My stacks do tend to be quite meaty as I'm shooting untracked. And for that reason I think I'm unlikely to be buying APP for the near future. DSS may not be as powerful, but it managed this stack in a few hours. APP is currently sitting at 6 hours with an estimated 8 hours still to go. :|
DONG......!
Gotta love APP : )
Thanks for the video. I'm just getting into AP and am currently trying to make some decisions on processing SW. I've seen many talks about APP and that's what got me here. My gear consists of the following: scopes - Astro-Tech AT92 f/5.5, Sky-Watcher AR127 f/6.5, Sky-Watcher 203mm f/3.9 Newt; cameras - ZWO ASI1600MM Pro, Altair 183M PRO TEC; Filter Wheel- ZWO EFW8; Mount - Sky-Watcher EQ6-R PRO. I have limited experience with PhotoShop & PixInSight. I really would like the power of PixInSight but with an easier learning curve and at least reasonably comparable results. Where do you think APP fits in the realm of processing SW today? Based on your initial uses, do you feel it is a strong SW option currently? Do you feel that starting with APP is a reasonable approach if/when I make the move to PixInSight later? Are the processing concepts learned in APP transferable to PixInSight? Can APP handle the complete processing steps for general deepsky objects? Or will you still be required to use PhotoShop and/or PixInSight to finish up your post work? What do you feel APP is lacking the most? Are there any other SW products that you'd recommend? Thanks for any guidance you can offer.
Hey Tim, did you ever got to create this mosaic tutorial in APP? Can't find it on your channel
Yes, I did: ruclips.net/video/XANoN7Pvnfw/видео.html
Hi...great video..thanks. Could you describe the the parts of the computer you are using or your recommendations? Mine just plods along and seems to take forever. Under the integration tab, if I choose "2" in the scale window, I run out of hard disk space. I see the processor in the comments below but a complete description ...HD etc would help me design a new system. Thanks again for the tutorial.
The problem with the 2*scale: This scale parameter is inside the drizzle algorithm, which scales up EVERY sub frame BEFORE integration. Disk space for the integration is therefore quadrupled. I recommend running the working directory, or even APP on an SSD drive
Fantastic video! I just purchased APP. I did that because your video made everything seem so accessible. It’s such a pleasure to work along with your instructions. I’m a rank newcomer but, following your video I was actually able to capture a great image of the Pelican Nebula. Could you tell me how to save my image (when you click the save button, then what? I see the file at the bottom of the screen, but how do I get it to photoshop? Also, what format do I need to save the image in order for Photoshop to be able to work with it?
Double click your processed image to preview it. Then click save, best with a stretch of 15%, and in the menu, select 16 bit integers, save as tiff
Thank you for your reply. One further question, you mentioned that you already reviewed your light frames….how do you do that? One frame at a time? I have over 1,000 frames…would it help to set the percentage to 75% in order for APP to eliminate the bad frames? Or do you actually have to go through each frame?
Hello Tim. Have you ever used Siril for post processing? If so, I would love to see you demonstrate this free astro software. Thank you.
I will take a look
Moving up to PixInsight was one of the best things I’ve done in my Astrophotography hobby. APP looked good too but I thought (at the time) there was more instructional info for PI. APP should be good tho.
That's true, lot of info for pixinsight
I really like APP and what it can do but I always feel I still need to rely on other software, like Photoshop or PIxInsight to completly finish a picture.
Oh and it looks rather old-fashioned.
Hi, good videos, just a request ,can you put yourself image screen smaller, you almost cover a quarter of your screen,
16:40 we have 2 different nights, Nacht eins Nacht 2 😂... Da Kahm kurz der deutsche durch... Super Video ich benutze es auch schon länger weil es unkompliziert ist und relativ intuitiv im Vergleich
Exakt!
i dont have startracker i just have tripod a telephotolens and dslr, this software allowes me to stack images like adromeda, orion, "the big ones". this sw makes aligement of stars?
Of course it does
I just purchased APP and found your video very helpful. Did you get a chance to created the tutorial on Mosaics in APP ?
thank you
I haven't done a video which is fully dedicated to the process, but it's a part of this one here: ruclips.net/video/XANoN7Pvnfw/видео.html
@@AstroAddict thank you sir !
Is APP just for stacking or can you do all post-processing with it too? If so, how does it do with that?
You can do a little bit of Post-processing, like sharpening, saturation and black/white point settings. But that's about it. You still want a dedicated post processing software
Hi Tim, vielen Dank für die tollen Videos.
Diese sind wirklich eine tolle Hilfe für mich für den Einstieg in die DeepSky-Fotografie.
Ich habe eine kleine Frage zu APP und ev. kannst du mir hier helfen?
Ich habe einen Nebel mit einem Dual NarrowbandFilter von STC fotografiert und möchte nun HA und OIII separat errechnen.
Das mach ich unter Tab 0 beim Algorithmus mit "HA-OIII extract HA" und "HA-OIII extract OIII".
Danach sollte ich nach dem integrieren eine Schwarz/weiß-Bild bekommen.
Das ist bei mir leider nicht der Fall und ich erhalte immer noch ein Farbbild.
Weißt du woran das liegen könnte?
Vielen Dank im Voraus
Stefan :-)
Bist du sicher das du nicht Ha-OIII Bi Color gewählt hast? Normalerweise sollte es SW Bild rauskommen wenn du die 'extract' Algorithmen wählst. Stelle sicher das im Tab 0 auch alle weiteren Einstellungen stimmen
@@AstroAddict Hallo Tim, vielen Dank für deine Antwort.
Ich bin gestern Abend nach langen Recherchen auf das Problem gestoßen.
Ich fotografiere mit eine modifizierten Sony A6000 und habe die Bilder in LR geladen und als TIFF exportiert.
Hier lag der Fehler denn wenn ich die Bilder als "original" aus LR exportiere funktioniert alles :-)
Danke trotzdem für deine Bemühungen.
Hi @AstroAddict! :) I am a 28 year old man from Finland and I am a beginner in filming Astro! I currently use the iTelescope service because I don’t have my own telescopes or cameras. Can Astropixelprocessor software improve the quality of finished color images? Or can this only enhance LRGB images? Of course I want to learn how to combine LRGB images into a color image, but I have still taken ready-made color images. Do you use other editing programs in Astro to improve image quality than this? Thanks!
I use APP for stacking and initial adjustments, but most o the post processing is done in PixInsight
@@AstroAddict In fact, I bought Adobe Photoshop today, is it obviously with really good post-processing? Photoshop is just really complicated and difficult to understand at first, and it takes time to learn, but it’s worth it! :) Could you make a full version of the tutorial for Photoshop? :)
Hope I can get a reply... so many youtube folks dont bother after a week. This software... is it any good for someone with 0 knowledge of the stacking process or terminology ??
If that's the case, you should start with Deep Sky Stacker first. It's free
@@AstroAddict I’m on Mac, that’s what attracted this to me
Hello, and thanks for explaining things. I was thinking APP could “finish” and image Im trying to avoid photoshop and also I don’t want to learn pixinsite because it looks daunting. Why do you recommend ?
APP is not for finish. You won't get around PixInsight or Photoshop
Good day. As a retiree on limited funds, is it possible to use Star Tools rather than Photoshop? Thanks for your good work...keep it up. Charlie
@@AstroAddict It gets expensive for a just posh stacker then.
What setting do you use if you don’t dither at all?
The only difference lies in drizzling. If you don't dither, don't use drizzling
Can you or how Do you align LRGB star In astrophixel processor
Load all of them in different filter/sessions, and integrate each channel individual (under step 6, "integrate per channel). You will receive 4 greyscale images, which you can combine in tab 9 -> Combine RGB
Ok. I’m completely missing tan 9, why is that?
Thank you for putting out a tutorial, really helpful for a complete amateur at this like me. I might be a dumb, but I don't understand what lights, darks and flats are, as well as the "master" versions of these. Really grateful for a quick explanation, again thanks for you content =)
The images you take at night have many impurities. The images of the object are called lights. To get rid of the impurities, we take additional images. These additional images contain only these errors. Dark's contain thermal noise, Bias' contain read-out noise, Flat's contain vignetting and much more. Even these frames are stacked, the final result is called a 'Master Bias/Dark/Flat', just as the 'Master Light'. After the correction masters are created, they are subtracted from the individual lights.
It took me a while to learn about all these, but now they are tool i cannot miss.
My CFG button doesn't give an option to set RAM. Has this moved?
The answer is the latest APP controls the RAM automatically.
Once stacked. What's the procedure to move to PS to stretch and tinker with?
Export as streched .tiff by clicking save. No magic
@@AstroAddict so leave the stretch box ticked in the panel on the right?
Yes
Where is your Patreon?
You will find the link in the description of the video. But, the page is not well maintained at the moment, and simply exists fpr people who want to contribute to my caffeine intake for the nights of astro :P
how to add more than 5 sessions in multi session work
Click on 'Custom', and enter 'Session 6' for example
Can you post the Specs of you PC , please ...
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X with 48GB RAM
@@AstroAddict so its a PC and not a Laptop .. thanks Tim.. very nice.
Does it work on Mac?
I think there is a mac version
lol at the APP noises... you know you can turn them off now right?
Yes i know. Just wanted to show everyone :D
No-one's gonna mention the 48GB of RAM??
Shhhhhh.....
Why do you have a ThreadRipper LMAOO
The ThreadRipper has way more cores that my processor
AstroAddict haha I kinda don’t understand wut u mean ;D
@@AstroAddict Seriously humbled by your compute power, all the same - I'm getting by on just four i7 cores with 8 threads. lol
@@AstroAddict oops i meant a ryzen 9 :D
@@Seafox0011 using a Ryzen 5 2600X in my system, 6 cores 12 threads is awesome for image processing, and games, if you need an upgrade, I recommend Ryzen for sure
Great tutorial! But, all of your mouth noises and swallowing drive me NUTS