Hey Tom! Thanks for all of your reviews. It's cool to "go back in time" and see what games have really endured. I think that Robinson Crusoe is one of those. I really appreciate being able to do solo missions.
No reason to purchase the new version if you already own the game. The new rule book is available as free pdf download as are the stickers and scenarios on bgg...that primarily leaves just the food and wood which can be puchased from portal. ...and you get to keep your nicer box art ;^)
0:37 Gameplay isn't similar. It's absolutely the same. That's why it's hard to consider this version as 2.0. It's more like 1.5. IMO it is worth to get it, if you haven't bought it yet obviously.
"The changes are not massive. Definitely, the new edition is way better than the first one." Still scratching my head at how you can say those two sentences consecutively and have them both be true.
Jeremy Sexton I thought the same thing. But after further consideration I believe Tom was just pointing out that while the changes were "small" the result of those changes was "large". (For instance. Take the rule book... Personally I never had a problem with the old one but if someone finds it to be a "large" improvement, that "small" change could be considered a "large" improvement, since the rule book is probably the second most important component in a board game, just behind the actual "board".) ;)
Jeremy Sexton for example, if all the cards were written in Spanish with a reference sheet but were now changed to English, the change would be relatively minor (translating cards) but the effect is massive.
Love the 1st ed box art. I never owned the game but that box design made me want to own it. The new one looks like the kind of stereotypical artwork that you see on a lot of Euro games. It's pretty generic and uninspired and actually confused my brain when I first saw it... I couldn't quite believe that THAT design was the brand new reprint version. There are other games like Fury of Dracula that have been guilty of this too and it's not a huge deal, but makes me just a wee bit less motivated to pick up the new edition. Everything else about it looks like an improvement though.
Helpful comparison to a great game. I also noted that the 3 event decks for building, exploring and hunting (if I recall), sorry I can't recall the exact name for these decks. Anyway, I noticed the colours are much better. The original nice and card backs were pastel shades, and being colour blind they sometimes caused issues from across the table. The new shades seem much more vibrant.
Tom forgot the most important thing. There used to be all bad events. Now, there is exactly ONE (!) good card in the event deck, no kidding (sunny beach) ;-)
There is one MAJOR change, and it is price, in EU it costs 20 to 25% LESS than Z-man version, it si very good to see that some publisher like Portal, Iello, CGE and some others put fair price on their products, on other specter you have Asmodee, pure greed, just numbers, zero love for products or board gaming
Love your channel! I'd love to see a new series where you and the guys talk about older games (5+ years old) that you've already reviewed but haven't played or even mentioned in a while. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the current state of the game, whether you still love it, etc. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Thanks Tom, very helpful. Completely disagree about the artwork on the new box - think it isn't a touch on the original box, which was beautiful. But the new size is certainly better, and the other upgrades are improvements too. But the new box art is probably bad enough for me to stick with my old version though!
Ok If I own the older edition, print off the new rule book. Check! :D I think I prefer the older box, but the newer art feels more inviting and approachable. Does the new edition come with player aids?
Nice intro! The changes are generally really nice. One thing I'd like to add is that I actually think the board is not very great quality compared to some other games. It isn't 'hinged' (I don't know what it's exactly called), so it feels like it might get torn apart more easily, and it also doesn't sit very flat on the table for me.
I picked up a copy of the Newer edition, and it is great! Love the game play, and really appreciate the upgrade from cubes and the inclusion of stickers for the discs, these small touches really do help pull me into the theme and story of the game. I'm not sure I agree on the box art, I like the new edition, but I prefer the Characters on the box. The newer box art does give the idea of being stranded alone on an island, where the older box art hinted at the depth of story the game provides. I do prefer the newer box shape as it fits better with my other games. A top 10 game for me for sure! Thanks Tom and DIce Tower people for cluing me in!
I would have liked a Miami Dice for this one. I know you already reviewed the game, but this could have been an occasion to hear also Sam's and Zee's opinion. Thanks for the video anyway though
LOVE MORE 2nd edition for upgrades, components, quality, board and look and because is more adult look in terms of game box graphics and more polished overwall, not like an little childrens game look of the game box. (For this awesome heavy enjoying game)
This was great and would love more of these! I cringed a little with the rubber bands over the cards but it isn't my game lol. So weird how that kind of silly stuff can bother someone it doesn't effect 😂
thank you so much for doing this. I was so mad when I heard they were coming out with a new "upgraded" version as I had just bought the original not a month before I heard about the new edition, lol. now I feel better knowing that it's not that much of an upgrade. I actually think I like the old box art better and the rules difference doesn't really make a difference to me as I know how to play. thanks again!
...Not sure if it's worth getting the upgrade kit when that comes out, if basically all it gets me is some stickers and a promo scenario (While I haven't upgraded the resources specifically, I use the Stonemaier treasure chests with it), and a better written rulebook that I no longer need since I've learnt the damn thing...
did the rules actually change in any way? or is it the same game, same rules, just presented better in the new rulebook? (not asking about component upgrades or any other changes, just mechanics of the game)
Thank you for this video. When searching for this game to buy it caused me a lot of confusion. But now I think I'm gonna wait for the Mars version. Love me some spacey stuff!
Just what I needed ! I got the expansion of the other on (Beagle..) and I'm wondering whether or not to go for the new one. Is the new rule book available as a PDF ? Is First Martians going to be like this Robinson Crusoe game but set in Space ? I'm sure I saw an early version of the game and it looked nothing like RC.
The new rulebook is available as a PDF on BGG. You can also buy a physical copy, along with the new tokens and the King Kong scenario for like $20 at the Portal games store.
larflabergasted here's an interesting thing ... I've been looking at prices and the old edition is around £53 and the new around £47 ... now why is that the case ?
I was wondering : are the new rules 100% compatible with the old version of the game ? I own the original box but never played it. Perhaps can I directly read the new version of the rules ?
I don't think that is necessary, apart from the boxart and size nothing has really changed. (Yes better quality components, but that doesn't stop you to integrate the expansion.)
I just wish the rule book was in an easily printed format. Since that's all I want getting the upgrade is pointless. Pity you can't just order a nicely printed copy of the rule book :-(.
Wait a second. There's an English edition released by Portal Games in October 2012, another English revision released by Z-Man Games in Aug 2013, a 3rd revision released by Z-Man games in 2014, and you're telling me this 2016 version is 2nd edition?
I don't know how anybody can prefer the new box art over the old. The old art just screamed of adventure and intrigue. The new... a walk on the beach?? Also yes the old rule book really was HORRIBLE!!
Haha, it's funny how I disagree on absolutely every point except for the rulebook ^^ The new cover art is boring, the tokens have ugly forms, i hate stickers, etc.
That seems to be the popular opinion, but I really do like the new one better. I mean, the old one had this odd cartooney style, while inside the box everything looked more 'serious' (except the characters maybe). Now it's more consistent, and I simply like the new style better.
Haha when he said he liked the lame new art of some dudes on a beach I was like "he can't be serious". I agree - the old art is alot better. I think it's more rich or immersive looking than the new art.
I think the new one is much more immersive looking - instantly makes you think its a 'stranded on an island' game (and its much cleaner looking to boot), the old one is just too messy for me
Glad to see a video like this as I was looking at getting the newer version to replace the previous edition I have. Between this new version & the videos from Watch It Played, makes this gem of a game far easier to play. Link to the Watch It Played series showing the gameplay & teaching the game ruclips.net/p/PLHvfN_pNBj_H1DzryzEMyezxdf30SHu5l
Still don't get how the first box art has so much love. The game title is a horrible mess. Way too much going on. plus it's dark and muddy looking. I get that it's all subjective, but I would rank it among my least liked box art. Seriously though, I dislike the game title on the first box A LOT. Just awful. Plus the second box looks more like an island. First one just looks like they have discovered some lost valley.
Hey Tom! Thanks for all of your reviews. It's cool to "go back in time" and see what games have really endured. I think that Robinson Crusoe is one of those. I really appreciate being able to do solo missions.
No reason to purchase the new version if you already own the game. The new rule book is available as free pdf download as are the stickers and scenarios on bgg...that primarily leaves just the food and wood which can be puchased from portal. ...and you get to keep your nicer box art ;^)
0:37 Gameplay isn't similar. It's absolutely the same. That's why it's hard to consider this version as 2.0. It's more like 1.5. IMO it is worth to get it, if you haven't bought it yet obviously.
"The changes are not massive. Definitely, the new edition is way better than the first one."
Still scratching my head at how you can say those two sentences consecutively and have them both be true.
Jeremy Sexton I thought the same thing. But after further consideration I believe Tom was just pointing out that while the changes were "small" the result of those changes was "large". (For instance. Take the rule book... Personally I never had a problem with the old one but if someone finds it to be a "large" improvement, that "small" change could be considered a "large" improvement, since the rule book is probably the second most important component in a board game, just behind the actual "board".) ;)
Jeremy Sexton for example, if all the cards were written in Spanish with a reference sheet but were now changed to English, the change would be relatively minor (translating cards) but the effect is massive.
Love the 1st ed box art. I never owned the game but that box design made me want to own it. The new one looks like the kind of stereotypical artwork that you see on a lot of Euro games. It's pretty generic and uninspired and actually confused my brain when I first saw it... I couldn't quite believe that THAT design was the brand new reprint version. There are other games like Fury of Dracula that have been guilty of this too and it's not a huge deal, but makes me just a wee bit less motivated to pick up the new edition. Everything else about it looks like an improvement though.
Alright, download the new rulebook, got it :)
Portal reported that they will be offering an Upgrade Kit for those who own the original game and want the new rulebook, wooden bits, etc...
Helpful comparison to a great game.
I also noted that the 3 event decks for building, exploring and hunting (if I recall), sorry I can't recall the exact name for these decks. Anyway, I noticed the colours are much better. The original nice and card backs were pastel shades, and being colour blind they sometimes caused issues from across the table. The new shades seem much more vibrant.
Tom forgot the most important thing. There used to be all bad events. Now, there is exactly ONE (!) good card in the event deck, no kidding (sunny beach) ;-)
There is one MAJOR change, and it is price, in EU it costs 20 to 25% LESS than Z-man version, it si very good to see that some publisher like Portal, Iello, CGE and some others put fair price on their products, on other specter you have Asmodee, pure greed, just numbers, zero love for products or board gaming
you are a treasure to the boardgame community, everything I search you have a video on! Thank you! :)
More of these please 😁
Love your channel! I'd love to see a new series where you and the guys talk about older games (5+ years old) that you've already reviewed but haven't played or even mentioned in a while. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the current state of the game, whether you still love it, etc. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Thanks Tom, very helpful. Completely disagree about the artwork on the new box - think it isn't a touch on the original box, which was beautiful. But the new size is certainly better, and the other upgrades are improvements too. But the new box art is probably bad enough for me to stick with my old version though!
Ok If I own the older edition, print off the new rule book. Check! :D
I think I prefer the older box, but the newer art feels more inviting and approachable. Does the new edition come with player aids?
It would be horrible if it came with AIDS
Nice intro!
The changes are generally really nice. One thing I'd like to add is that I actually think the board is not very great quality compared to some other games. It isn't 'hinged' (I don't know what it's exactly called), so it feels like it might get torn apart more easily, and it also doesn't sit very flat on the table for me.
I picked up a copy of the Newer edition, and it is great! Love the game play, and really appreciate the upgrade from cubes and the inclusion of stickers for the discs, these small touches really do help pull me into the theme and story of the game. I'm not sure I agree on the box art, I like the new edition, but I prefer the Characters on the box. The newer box art does give the idea of being stranded alone on an island, where the older box art hinted at the depth of story the game provides. I do prefer the newer box shape as it fits better with my other games. A top 10 game for me for sure! Thanks Tom and DIce Tower people for cluing me in!
I would have liked a Miami Dice for this one. I know you already reviewed the game, but this could have been an occasion to hear also Sam's and Zee's opinion. Thanks for the video anyway though
LOVE MORE 2nd edition for upgrades, components, quality, board and look and because is more adult look in terms of game box graphics and more polished overwall, not like an little childrens game look of the game box. (For this awesome heavy enjoying game)
This was great and would love more of these! I cringed a little with the rubber bands over the cards but it isn't my game lol. So weird how that kind of silly stuff can bother someone it doesn't effect 😂
I have the original and am glad to see that this updated printing isn't essential
Now can we get one of these videos for RoboRally??
1:55 Love that reaction
thank you so much for doing this. I was so mad when I heard they were coming out with a new "upgraded" version as I had just bought the original not a month before I heard about the new edition, lol. now I feel better knowing that it's not that much of an upgrade. I actually think I like the old box art better and the rules difference doesn't really make a difference to me as I know how to play. thanks again!
...Not sure if it's worth getting the upgrade kit when that comes out, if basically all it gets me is some stickers and a promo scenario (While I haven't upgraded the resources specifically, I use the Stonemaier treasure chests with it), and a better written rulebook that I no longer need since I've learnt the damn thing...
did the rules actually change in any way? or is it the same game, same rules, just presented better in the new rulebook? (not asking about component upgrades or any other changes, just mechanics of the game)
Thank you for this video. When searching for this game to buy it caused me a lot of confusion. But now I think I'm gonna wait for the Mars version. Love me some spacey stuff!
Love the music at the beginning :D
Just what I needed ! I got the expansion of the other on (Beagle..) and I'm wondering whether or not to go for the new one. Is the new rule book available as a PDF ? Is First Martians going to be like this Robinson Crusoe game but set in Space ? I'm sure I saw an early version of the game and it looked nothing like RC.
The new rulebook is available as a PDF on BGG. You can also buy a physical copy, along with the new tokens and the King Kong scenario for like $20 at the Portal games store.
larflabergasted here's an interesting thing ... I've been looking at prices and the old edition is around £53 and the new around £47 ... now why is that the case ?
I was wondering : are the new rules 100% compatible with the old version of the game ? I own the original box but never played it. Perhaps can I directly read the new version of the rules ?
Yes you can. There are no new components in the game except for the new scenario sheet.
I was so waiting for that!
The game are out of stock or super expensive everywhere :(
Wonder when will they reprint?
wiil it be a reprint for the expansion?
I don't think that is necessary, apart from the boxart and size nothing has really changed. (Yes better quality components, but that doesn't stop you to integrate the expansion.)
I prefer the old box artwork.
I just wish the rule book was in an easily printed format. Since that's all I want getting the upgrade is pointless. Pity you can't just order a nicely printed copy of the rule book :-(.
I like both arts))))
Prefer the old artwork 😂
Wait a second. There's an English edition released by Portal Games in October 2012, another English revision released by Z-Man Games in Aug 2013, a 3rd revision released by Z-Man games in 2014, and you're telling me this 2016 version is 2nd edition?
I don't know how anybody can prefer the new box art over the old. The old art just screamed of adventure and intrigue. The new... a walk on the beach??
Also yes the old rule book really was HORRIBLE!!
Moe Joe the old art looks like a pirate themed game. I really like the new box better
plagium of the spanish "naufragos"
You should troll smarter. You suck at it.
good vid. Want the game? buy the new version. Love the game? Buy the new one. Have the old game and like it? keep it.
The scenarios are the same old ones if I understood well? How disapointing...
Haha, it's funny how I disagree on absolutely every point except for the rulebook ^^
The new cover art is boring, the tokens have ugly forms, i hate stickers, etc.
agreed! old art and box cover are WAY better.
the original box is far better looking
That seems to be the popular opinion, but I really do like the new one better. I mean, the old one had this odd cartooney style, while inside the box everything looked more 'serious' (except the characters maybe). Now it's more consistent, and I simply like the new style better.
Kraaven Halftusk The new box actually reflects the style of the game
nahailyenvanakkor Totally agree with you btw.
Haha when he said he liked the lame new art of some dudes on a beach I was like "he can't be serious". I agree - the old art is alot better. I think it's more rich or immersive looking than the new art.
I think the new one is much more immersive looking - instantly makes you think its a 'stranded on an island' game (and its much cleaner looking to boot), the old one is just too messy for me
Glad to see a video like this as I was looking at getting the newer version to replace the previous edition I have. Between this new version & the videos from Watch It Played, makes this gem of a game far easier to play.
Link to the Watch It Played series showing the gameplay & teaching the game
ruclips.net/p/PLHvfN_pNBj_H1DzryzEMyezxdf30SHu5l
Man, Tom really has no respect for his game components lol
Still don't get how the first box art has so much love. The game title is a horrible mess. Way too much going on. plus it's dark and muddy looking. I get that it's all subjective, but I would rank it among my least liked box art. Seriously though, I dislike the game title on the first box A LOT. Just awful.
Plus the second box looks more like an island. First one just looks like they have discovered some lost valley.