@RickeyDart "Some stories are just sad and disgusting from start to finish"" I think you meant to say "engrossing and hilarious" with which I would totally agree.
Fun fact: If you just watch the first 15 minutes, this video is just an uplifting feel-good story of a boy with autism and a troubled home situation who makes the most of it, befriending his peers in highschool and having a great 18th birthday.
A friend of mine once got drunk watching that one big documentary on Chris and said "This Sonichu thing is clearly a demon that choose Chris as its victim" and that stood out to me.
@@TheOwneroftheIC before the Kiwi Farms went down there was a thread with pictures of him on wallmart. He seems to be in a group home and access to the internet probably limited .
Given how that thing somehow never leaves his neck, there might be a good case for it. The one party who hasn't looked at Chris is an exorcist. It would not suprise me if he saw _something else_ pulling the strings behind the tragedies of Chris Chan's life.
THIS is why we need a time machine not to prevent catastrophes or put modern technology into the past but to see what becomes of this guy if he wasn't uh more redditor
I'm only a few minutes into this documentary, and that letter that Chris's father wrote telling him to take care of and love Barb just makes my skin crawl knowing how this all ended.
She doesn’t deserve any care at all. If she had attempted to be a good mother at any point, Chris would have been very different. Instead she infantilised him, belittled him, didn’t seek relevant help for him, emotionally manipulated him, didn’t provide any form of decent nutrition, and was overly physically smothering with him. She is a terrible woman
Man, Bobs letter to Chris is absolutely heartbreaking when you see how Chris turned out. It was so wholesome and loving, and he had no idea how much of a bastard Chris would be.
It was Bob's last attempt at getting through to Chris as he knew he couldn't just go back to his old life with his first born children who would eventually achieve the academical success that Bob wanted for Chris. A broken man growing up through the time.
Bob's spirit while watching Chris: No no no. Stop. What are you doing? What are you doing with your life? (Yes, I am referencing Markiplier for those who didn't understand)
You'll notice people sometimes project how they feel. The fact chris clearly projects his self hatred and desires tells me he no longer has his own will. He's a slave to his broken childhood and trauma
Barbara in the next life needs to take so many notes while Bob needs to bail. For those less in the know, this is a plan the fact that Chris has said that both parents will be reincarnated.
Megan is a genuine good hearted person, some people deserves a friend like Megan. makes me mad how Chris abused her and just saw her as a sexual object
Ehhh, she deeply enabled him early on, and having someone so desperate for interaction with woman buy you things, even if she said it wasn’t romantic, is going to make him think certain things. Overall, she could’ve handled it better, but it seems her heart was in the right place.
@@ryanrzjr this is so victim blamey. he offered to buy her things while she made it clear she wasn't romantically interested. its not her fault he couldn't take no for an answer and for you to say it is directly contributes to rape culture. if you do something nice hoping to get sex in return, you can't blame the other person for not fulfilling your expectations
@@libbychalios7562 The first message they shared (while they had in person contact prior) was her ASKING him to buy her things. She didn’t deserve what Chris had done to her, but she wasn’t someone who “helped” Chris in any way. I agree that you can’t expect sex by doing something nice, but she actively entertains this KNOWING his intentions with it. It’s like saying you weren’t cheating when you chose to stay friends with some who actively was trying to get you to cheat. Pointing out how she enabled him, an autistic person who had made it completely obvious he would do just about anything to lose his virginity, isn’t victim blaming. You can point out how people may have messed up in a situation without asserting they deserved what they got.
As a Autistic kid growing up, the hardest thing for me to understand was that not everyone is your friend, not everyone is laughing with you, people are using you for the joke and make fun of you. I’m so glad to have a mom that understood that I was different and was able to help me see that. Seeing Chris’s history just makes me sad because I was him at one point. I feel like if he just had some type of consistent help this might of gone differently.
the lack of support in Chris's life was probably one of the biggest contributing factors in creating the monster we see today. im glad your mom is supportive and helpful
Bro I was a regular kid who looked like every other kid and still got bullied, beaten (by teachers, principal and my parents) laughed at and wasn't even allowed outside of my house or to even look through a window or be allowed to get summer jobs to get allowance (bc parents wouldn't give money to a girl anyways why would u need it. U ain't goint nowhere. While my bros got treated like princes)had no rights to have friends bc mom was against it and no communication with the outside world other than going to school. i ve seen kids who got less problems than me, and still ended up either dropping out of school and becoming delinquents or shooting up schools The autistic kids in my school who were just verbally bullied and never beaten (bc who would beat an autistic kid?) Turned out amazing. Had good lives and excelled in their studies. They weren't even being followed up by drs except for one of them which had also mental problems in addition to autism. Her dad built a private school and named it after her and made her the owner of the school. She deserves the best honestly. Such a nice girl with the biggest heart. She had a hard time reading people's emotions so she always assumed the worse out of people. That's why she dropped outta school.
Learning about Chris-Chan is like finding the necronomicon, where instead of gaining dark, unknown from eldritch and becoming insane from the horror, you just go insane from the horror
@lakojake4215 Chris isn't actually racist. The reason that they wanted to have a girlfriend who was specifically "white" was that Chris had had a dream that they believed was prophetic, in which they had a "white" daughter named Crystal. If Chris had a girlfriend who wasn't "white", then the supposed prophecy wouldn't have been fulfilled.
Honestly gotta give Megan some credit for putting up with Chris for so long. Literally gave him several undeserved chances and was excruciatingly patient with him
she actually used chris and had him buy her a ton of nazi memorabilia from ebay using his credit card. Little sus that she is german, last name Schroeder.
Chris Chan lives the type of life that makes you - no matter what you may be going through or have gone through - grateful that you will never, _ever_ end up like him. His story is a cautionary tale of how _not_ to conduct your life.
Exactly. Me myself, I have aspergers and socially awkward with some health issues but Chris here makes me feel like I don't have autism or social awkwardness. I'm quite thankful that my mom helped me with some of my issues so I didn't become like Chris, otherwise where will I be now?
It always makes me sad how Bob always seemed to see the best in Chris, even in his dying days, he seemed to fully expect Chris to not only be willing to take care of his mother in his absence, but be capable of doing so. You’d think after he’d spent 30-ish years with Chris, that he’d be able to know that he was not only not capable of taking care of anyone, but incapable of recognizing that anyone but himself might need to be taken care of, but no, he always saw the best in his son, even when the mediocre wasn’t even there.
Tom didn't mention it but during the whole Miyamoto trolling saga Bob and Barb legit thought that Sonichu was famous and there were japanese bussinessmen looking to buy the IP. They were just too old and clueless of the internet
It’s crazy to me that this drama started so long ago. I was in my mid 20s and single. Now I’m divorced and have a teenager and two preteens. And there’s Zoomers who look at this as ancient history. It’s bonkers how much influence this had on internet culture today. My youngest is non verbal autistic and the CWC saga taught me all the wrong ways to raise a spectrum child so I’m just doing the opposite. So I guess that’s a silver lining.
Man all this was happening and I was watching Naruto AMVs to Avril Lavigne songs and finding punk pop and scene culture. I didn't know anything of this going on despite being in high school.
I’m autistic myself and I’m absolutely grateful that my parents gave me as much help as they can. I get the struggle of raising someone like me, but Chris’s parents really did nothing and look at how they turned out. I turned 18 last July and I’m graduating this Friday so I’m nervous about my future but I’m excited for it
To be fair, Bob actually tried to be a parent while Barb did a whole lot on nothing at the time. Considering the time and place where Chris was born (parents way too old and understanding of autism was limited at the time), Chris was essentially doomed from the start.
I’m autistic too, and yeah, parts of this story really stand out to me within that context. I genuinely think that if their parents were better, if they got proper help, and if they weren’t falsely medicated, things wouldn’t have turned out this way. It’s quite the tragedy. Chris was a bad person, surrounded by bad people.
This is the most jarring and whiplash inducing emotional roller coaster of a story i have ever heard. You know shit is bad when trolls start stopping other trolls from going too far. Its just depressing.
I feel awful for Megan and how often Chris abused her good nature and people-pleasing tendencies. She was far too patient with him and WAY too understanding. I hope she's doing alright.
me too. She seemed like a really kind & patient person. The kind of person who figured she'd try to help the poor guy because that's just how she is. And when people like Chris take advantage of that, those people might be ever-so-slightly less willing to go out of their way to help someone in the future.. and that makes the world an ever-so-slightly worse place :/
Megan has the patience of a saint. If it takes that much to drive her off she must be IMPOSSIBLY tolerant to a normal person. I hope her sane friends know how lucky they are to have her.
ok turky tom. i was on the fence about you. but you somehow managed to blend humor, intelligent discourse, condemnation when appropriate and just the right amount of compassion in a way that i find admirable. im FINALLY subbing
As an autistic man, this serves as a mirror in my own life. Who I could have become had things gone just a bit differently. If I was less self-aware, if my parents were a bit too lenient and carefree, if I didn't have healthy boundaries established for me. It's haunting and it makes me think. I'm gonna go sign up for some classes so I can get out more.
oh me too. i guarantee if i had been just a little less self aware and had just a little bit less luck finding genuine friends, i would’ve been an internet lolcow.
If you have enough self awareness yhat youre afraid of being him, you were never as bad as him and never wouldve become like him, so dont worry about it too much
There are a lot of names, so I made a resume to make it easy to fallow -Chris Chan (Christopher/Christian/ Christine) -Sonichu: a character that chris created -Bob and Barbara: Chris parents -Megan: A girl that was a friend of Chris, she had a lot of pattience for Chris even when he wrong her a lot -Rocky: an old lady that becomes Chris confidant in real life -Catherine: a girl that date Chris as a joke that goes wrong -Ivy: Another troll pretending to be a girl that fall in love with Chris -The Guard Dogs: a group made by the capitan, Marvin (The Pickleguy) and null that try (and succed) to help Chris during the idea guys arc Antagonists (real life): -Mary Lee: The dean of Chris school, she was the main antagonist in his sonichu comic -Mike Snyder: the owner of a videogame store where Chris was banned, Chris tried to run over him... Twice Antagonists (internet trolls): -Vivian Gee: she stared as a Troll, but then she became an ... ally???, she was honest to Chris about how the world seems him she even Made a full audiobook to help him -Blanca: A fake account made by three trolls, they take Chris Medallion of Sonichu, they also create the character the called "The Pickleman" identity later taked by Marvin -Marvin: also called the Pickleman, he dressed in a pickle costume and trolled Chris, the most famous one is the time that he prank a fake date with a girl called Emily in a mail and then Pickleguy came and asked Emily for a date (and she agrees because all was planned), he stop trolling Chris after the death of Bob to later became part of the Guard Dogs to defeat the idea guys -Clyde Cash: he trolls Chris calling him gay, he created the gruop the Miscreants (a gruop of trolls), he rape the fake girlfriend of Chris called Panda, he also made himself pass as nintendo staff, in the end he gave an advice to Chris out of pitty for the Blue Spike situation -Blue Spike: part of the Miscreants, Bluespike trolls Chris making roleplay sexcalls and made him admits some weird things as an alterego called Julie, he also bully and sexual abuse Chris as his alterego Max, the evil brother of Julie, he was one of the most wicked, sadistic and evil trolls, even Clyde had to intervine and ban him from The Miscreants -Liquid Chris: my favorite character, he made himself pass as the original Chris, he made everything that Chris do but better, he accomplish everthing that Chris ever wanted like having a girlfriend and a job, he leaves -Alec Benson: created a parody of sonichu, he also has two alter egos Jackie and his evil exboyfriend Lars, he becomes a friend to Chris later under the alterego of Jackie he tries to help him to improve his life, thanks to him Chris stop posting on internet for 8 month - Idea guys: a group of 4 trolls (Joshua Allen and Stephen Boyd mostly) that made chris thought that all realities were mixing, they stole $6000 dollars from Chris and his family, they made Chris draw Sonichu being rape by him (this can sound funny but when you know that Chris see Sonichu as his son) they really mess with Chris mind and his idea about incest they were defeated thanks to "the Guard Dogs" -Isabella Janke: the one that expose the rape/incest relationship between Chris and his mother Barb, Isabella is probably the most evil person in this story she is a sociopath that wanted to be the biggest troll in Chris history, her end goal was to Made Chris commit sucide In the end we have an anti lesson of how to live and what happens when a person with mental health doesnt get the help that he need
Isabella deserves jail time. She’s the real lolcow. We will read about her on the news one day when they find dead babies buried in her yard or something equally as terrible.
Damn meghan had so much patience for Chris. Repeatedly telling chris to stop sexually harassing her but still extending a hand to remain friends is incredible. She was so charitable towards chris and asked for the BARE MINIMUM. But Chris couldnt even do that
@@johnasrican I mean, it's Chris... CWC's idea of what makes a Good Gift is probably miles away from any sane person's. I seriously doubt that it was the driving factor -- she even refused to go to PAX with him even if he'd won the tickets.
Honestly, I cannot defend what Chris Chan did, but the lengths that people went to just to antagonize and manipulate him was really hard to learn about. The entire story is just awful.
I think Chris Chan's trolls are almost as sad and pathetic as he is. Like why dedicate so much of your time trolling some dude on the internet? At some point, it's not even funny anymore, just sad
Absolutely, both are indefensible. But when you say that now people go "But look what he did to his mom!" Except that his trolls had no idea what was going on with his mom (and for most of the trolling it probably hadn't even happened yet), they really did see an extremely gullible developmentally disabled man and said "Yeah, making a targeted and prolonged effort to screw with him would be fun."
I think it's safe to say that he was a conduit, to some extent, reflective of the evil of the trolls. I mean, Isabell Jenke is the reason for everything involved in his arrest, he wouldn't have done that on his own
@Freerocky16 even before the trolls chris had a long history of not respecting women's boundaries. Part of that is his autism, but there's only so much you can blame on that. Did the trolls help? No. No of course they didn't. That being said, painting chris as some sort of innocent victim who succumbed to bad influences just isn't accurate. If you're truly looking for someone to blame, I'd blame his parents. They made countless mistakes raising him, and Barb was actively abusive towards him.
He actually has a good radio/broadcast voice in that first “Song of Christian” video even if he has a little bit of a stammer. Almost a shame he deteriorated so rapidly.
With the benefit of having everything condensed into one video this was the most painful detail next to his dwindling social skills. I have limited sympathy for Chris overall but from the outside thats a literal hell…
Wasn't really sure what you were talking about until I got to 2:58:30 and saw his whatsapp messages. He used to be a pretty eloquent writer and now he writes like he can barely scramble the right words together. I also underestimated how much time had passed since he "transitioned". Feels like yesterday when I read the news of him mazing a gamestop employee. Damn.
I actually had never heard the lore, just seen the memes. This is actually so horrible. A very mentally ill man, neglectful elderly parents, a group of people online taking advantage of him for fun, and the predictable fallout. This is some messed up shit.
you almost feel bad for (younger) chris, im sure if chris had parents who cared for his autism, and internet trolls werent so ruthless, so many things probably wouldve been a lot different, an example what mental neglect and bullying can do to someone
@@viral4983 not even if internet trolls weren't so ruthless, just if his parents had actually been half decent parents and allowed him the help he needed. We'd likely be looking at just a normal person among the masses... so I guess there'd just be nobody to see.
@@chrishusted9296 i feel thats very true as well. It seems his dad at the very least really did care about him (the clip of him coming to chris when the trolls lied and said he was going to commit unalive) but if he had the developmental help he needed, he probably wouldve been 100x more functional Though obviously its to a point. Some of the shit he did was just inexcusable and you cant blame unmet autistic needs for
Literally all of this could've been avoided if a responsible adult just stepped in, got him support from a professional and got him off the internet. In my eyes, his Mother is the biggest culprit of all. she just gave up on him completely, and ended up enabling his awful and deranged behaviour.
100% Bro was a victim of being 100% gullible, being bullied High School style unchained for years, and his parents were too ignorant to know what the hell an internet is. This is their failure. Just like Racism can ONLY be taught.......so can life skills like coping and dealing with stress, dealing with liars, learning social ques, and so on. He cant self reflect...........if he has never been taught how to self reflect in the first place. .........and he cant get a girlfriend if he's a desperate, creepy unstable mess of a human. His dad never taught him that women dont want some handsy, desperate creepy wierdo. They want a confident happy individual that is stable of mind and cares about their wellbeing.
Null started trying to do that but right in the midst of that altruism the idea guys and janke (spelling)? were fucking with him at which point Null fairly decided to completely step away from any involvement with Chris
Chris was forced to go to counseling in college after he sent threatening drawings to a teacher's home address after she told him to stop loitering around campus with his "looking for a boyfriend-free girl" signs. It did nothing. Some people are just not capable of being helped.
@@arandompasserby7940 I am not a professional so I don't know what kind of facilities are out there for people extremely detached from reality, but I think it's plain to see he needs far more help than just talking to a college counsellor. He needs medication and to go through some sort of rehabilitation process whilst being supervised by qualified professionals. As morbid as it sounds, I think prison might actually be beneficial in that sense.
@@arandompasserby7940 Hes been sent to forced counseling, psychiatry, anger management classes, etc several times in his life. But these were all mandated by some force or another and therefore were short term and often focused on the particular issue rather than his issues as a whole. He needed long term counseling with a therapist specialized for his issues, and he needed it much earlier on in his life than he even ended up getting any counseling at all.
The fact that he gave up on Santa for not giving him a girl for Christmas while he was in his 20s and had graduated from college tells you all you need to know about Chris.
Just to put it out there I was the employee at gamestop in the red shirt behind the counter. What that lunatic did was come in there causing drama over sonic booms cover. He intended to literally burn the game box with a lighter he had. He had been banned from all other gamestops In charlottesville for doing exactly that and we were warned of him and when he came in we informed him he needed to leave or security would escort him out. He then said some bs about not touching him and pulled out pepper spray and sprayed part of the front counter and sprayed our coworker directly In the face. He is absolutely unhinged and is a danger to Public safety. He was then detained outside of the fashion square mall right afterwards.
There's a really weird similarity between Chris Chan's upbringing and a infamous US serial killer. There's a lot of parallels with Ed Kemper, the Co-ed Killer. Both had abusive Mothers when all they wanted was a Mum with love. And the saddest aspect to this whole saga is the world has watched Chris Chan implode online and used it as some weird entertainment. Honestly what needs to happen is takedowns of all Chris's posts and posts about him and let him lead a life away from online tournament. I'm sure Netflix has a 10 episode show about Chris Chan's life in the works. Nothing would surprise me.
You may also notice, if you pay close attention to his behavioral patterns, that Chris not only seems incapable of original thought and actual creativity (copying tropes and ideas he sees and experiences verbatim without really understanding the context behind them), but he also seems incapable of expressing genuine emotion, except anger. It's not autism. It's diagnosed psychopathy. All the emotional displays in his videos are completely fake and performative. He talks like he's reciting a script, because he basically is. He's copying and pasting tropes from things he's seen, and tries to equate it to how he THINKS people act when they're happy, sad, or angry. It's why he acts like a sentient live-action cartoon 99% of the time. It's all he knows how to do to get what he wants. The only time we ever see him convey a sincere emotion is when he gets genuinely angry. We've never actually seen him become truly sorrowful or joyful. It implies heavily that the person beneath all that performative display is either an animal, or a real psychopath.
If no one else spotted it, Anne Boleyn was not childless. She merely disappointed the King by having a surviving daughter, who was one of the longest reigning monarchs-- Queen Elizabeth I.
This video is bizarre. Dude clearly had and has major psychological problems, and all this video highlights is how the system has failed him and those he's affected, and how the poster is exploiting this, literally finding it hard not to laugh at times. Bravo.
Also, if anyone is in a similar situation to Megan....block that person. Avoid them, ignore them, do NOT give them any of your sympathy. They WILL take every little thread of sympathy and knit themselves an entire abusive, ignorant story where they will ignore your boundaries and use you. These kinds of people rarely learn. Do not allow them to drain your life of happiness and positivity
megan was a similarly desperate person which is why she kept talking to him 🤷♂️ she wanted a friend but he wanted a girlfriend, and sorry but i have a hard time feeling bad for a nazi who put herself in that situation
There's also going to be people who will say all the right things. Often these kinds of stories include pushy people who don't even know well enough to pretend to understand right from wrong. Just don't let that trick you into thinking you can trust what people say alone as a measure of their person. It's not always going to be obvious.
It's so insane how his art style literally never changed or improved in any way despite drawing out several issues of comics and nsfw through several decades
@@wyndoellabridge6208 Even so. Drawing differently overtime is something I consider to signify change in a person. For the better or worse, and the fact that Chris hasn't even changed his art style (If I could even call it that) in over 30+ years shows that he has not changed. The terrible behavior that he shown was constant throughout his life and it shows in his "art".
Actually in a way, they did improve, if you look at the earlier versions of characters, they were stick thin-ish, but later on as Chris life spiralled in to sexual deragement, they became more...shapely... bigger thighs, tits and other....Really, what you would expect from a person like Chris. The art style itself still looks garbage like it looked like before, but there is slightly more in the form of character designs. The sad thing here really is that this less obvious evolution has nothing to do with getting better over years, but more about Chris life spiralling out of control.
So basically a bunch of people completely harassed a severely autistic guy who had no real idea of what objective reality is but wanted to be normal so bad and what he believed would make him normal is a family but no real idea what that means. Yeah Chris is weird but that is easily understandable and 100% something far beyond his control but everyone going after this kid are all horrible.
Chris Chan is a guy that I've been hearing about a lot of times on the internet but I never understood why he is so infamous. Turns out, it's because his lore is way too complex.
I remember seeing a video in 2010 that my friend showed me. His name never left my head after that. It was like one of those memories where I questioned if I even watched that video. Years later I’m on this video lol.
Same. I was there for the entire online ordeal but never paid attention even when he got arrested. Honestly it just made me sad to see how deranged he was and other people, shows how dangerous unlimited internet access is to someone with a fragile and broken mental state.
I have an autistic cousin and I realized that both his parents are extremely strict about his social media and internet usage to the point that he barely even know what Netflix is. I was confused at first but seeing how Chris wrongly handle his social media, I am glad my cousin is well taught..
Please don’t generalize us autistics as incompetent… please. We all won’t turn out like Chris Chan 💀 we are literally just chilling. EDIT: it’s long, a lot of people misinterpreted what i said OK THIS BLEW UP. im autistic and almost 18 so my experience is obviously going to be different than someone under the age of 13 and is autistic. i agree SOME autistics need supervision, banning us from social media or the internet and having parents being controlling literally us is the opposite of what we need. high/low whatever functioning you are… there’s something very strange to me that OPs uncle and aunt are keeping their child blissfully unaware of the outside world. barely knowing what a TV streaming service is…? is very concerning to me. unless he’s like 7. if he’s 13-17 he should at least know what it is. REGARDLESS: assuming autistics on social media who get trolled like Chris Chan will end up like Chris Chan feeds into the stigma that we are incompetent babies and need to be taken care of. Chris Chan became the way she did because she was neglected, raised terribly, and was treated poorly online. this does not excuse her behavior (obviously)- she is a terrible person. unfortunately her fate could’ve been prevented if circumstances were different, but i do not have sympathy or compassion for her 😭 TDLR (i know a lot of you won’t read that dw i wouldn’t want to either): > being unaware of the world around you as an autistic = BAD > over exposure to social media when you’re under 13 w/o supervision = ALSO BAD > autistics online who get trolled ≠ same fate as chris chan
This guy makes me reconsider my life choices, whenever I doubt myself I always ask myself "what would chris do in this situation?" and do the exact opposite
I’m only 1 hour and 30 mins in but one thing I find that a lot of people never mention that his parents were major hoarders and obviously had their own emotional baggage. The hoarding thing really surprised me because they couldn’t even access parts of their house any more, and I’m surprised no one in this family got any professional help before things got really bad.
Honestly, knowing that his parents were hoarders adds so much more info on why Chris was so sheltered, deluded, socially inept, intellectually inept beyond his autism. From what I've seen, people who live in hoarder conditions have some of the worst, most decaying mental health. Hoarding is like the external reflection of someone's inner world. If you live that way, your perception of reality is going to be in the absolute dumps.
@@jobellywelly7025 I can't imagine what hoarders' children go through. I grew up in a cluttered house, not of hoarders, but one way too small, with way too many people, each one an artist or creative, that we were too poor to move out of. In this environment I remember feeling trapped and utterly helpless; I would spend hours cleaning a section of a room, tired beyond belief, just for it to become filthy the next day. I developed depression, anxiety, resentment and anger issues, daily self harm addiction, suicidal and homicidal thoughts, and almost ended my life, before I thankfully turned my life completely over to God and we moved out. But a hoarders house is about twice as worse as the one I had lived in. Anyone who has to deal with that I really pray for their deliverance; I can only imagine how hard that is.
@@lewashiCasual2003 god that sounds awful, I hope you’re doing better now. And yes, I can’t imagine how hard it would be to grow up in major levels of hoarding, since once it’s gets past a certain severity, you can’t fix it yourself
Because it's rural Virginia in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Frankly, I'm amazed Chris got what little help he did, and that was almost certainly due to his proximity to the tiny semi-beacon of civilization called Charlottesville.
I had no idea about Chris/Christine's half-brother Cole, but God damn. That's the perfect prologue for this fucked up story. Thank God Cole espcaped, and who knows. If Cole had stood up to his mother one more time, told local authorities about her abusive practices. Maybe he could've saved Chris, but I guess it was never meant to be.
Saving Chris-chan has been attempted by many, more and better people than Cole or the local authorities ... they all failed miserably. Chris has actively impeded anyone from preventing his own trainwreck from happening time and time again.
That thing in the beginning about him getting held down by school staff, they may have been practicing “attachment therapy” also known has holding therapy or rage reduction therapy. It’s a very banned form of therapy where multiple people hold the child down by their arms and legs and basically force them to struggle and scream for an extended period of time. Sometimes they would also kneel on their face or chest. It was used on kids with anger issues, reactive attachment styles, and autism. I watched a true crime documentary where some people did this to a child with anger issues and autism and they ended up accidentally smothering her to death. Absolutely horrific. Not that this excuses his future behavior of course, but I thought this was interesting and probably something that actually happened. A lawsuit would definitely be warranted there.
Homeschooling him was definitely not the answer there though. He needed social interaction. They should have put him in real therapy and switched schools. Homeschooling oftentimes does more harm than good
Honestly when I heard the story I feel he was just misbehaving and acting like a little turd and they had to do something to keep him from doing whatever he was doing which was probably very disruptive and rotten. That kind of therapy that you mention would have been done in special schools design for kids with that kind of problem but his parents refused to allow him to go to a school like that and he was a regular public school they're not trying and techniques like that on kids misbehaving and they did it to keep them from continuing to misbehave.
I need to get this off my chest: I had probably the same problems as Chris Chan when I was a child. Like him, I’m also autistic and couldn’t process basic sentences until I was around 12-13 years old. Because of this, I had trouble making friends and turned to TV shows (mainly live-action children’s shows/cartoons) to cope with my loneliness. At the time, I didn’t know all of it was all fictional and due to my autism, my brain was wired WAY differently than a lot of people. I stated to believe that everything on the tv was real and began based my whole life on what I learned from tv shows. I started to make videos from my iPad with my own drawings and characters based on people I knew irl. As I mentioned before, I didn’t had any friends and due to my autism and little knowledge of friendship, I started to believe that every child that inspired the characters in my videos were my best friends. The more I believed this lie, the more crazier I became. While I did make friends from kids my own age later on, the kids that inspired my characters were I could think about. Yes, I know that all sounds stupid, pathetic and weird, but at the time, it was the only way for me to cope with my loneliness. This lasted for almost two years until I started high school. Then, I was super psych to be reunited with all of my “friends.” But when I approached each of them with a friendly hello, I ended up getting the opposite response than what I was looking for. These kids were not the people I expected them to be; they were in fact, very mean, rude, and selfish assholes. Many of these kids glare at me, iced me out, spread lies about me, etc. I gotta tell ya, it was absolutely horrible; not only did I make a complete and total fool of myself, but I wasted the last two years of my life on a false hope. I was also severely bullied for my disability, even by people whom I thought were my friends. After that, I was very miserable and didn’t make any videos later on. Because of my unhappiness, I started to act out in front of my family and at school and mistreat other people, so much so I was almost expelled! Luckily, thanks to my loving parents, I ended up seeing a therapist who got me out of the rut I was in and I started to feel a little better about myself. Later on, I made some new friends (a few whom I still talk to), my grades improved and I made up with my family. I’m now in my 20s and now studying at one of the best colleges in my state, and it’s classes I aced last semester. I’ve recently found out that the TV shows I worshiped were fake and only created for money and ratings. This really hit me hard and I had trouble processing everything. I’m better now, but I’ve decided not to work in making TV shows anymore; I’ve taken up sewing and fashion, and it’s really been taking off. While I do have friends now, I’m nowhere near as obsessive and clingy as I used to be. I don’t know where my former classmates who bullied or rejected me are now, but if you ask me, I could care less. I guess the moral of the story is don’t believe what you see on TV because it’s all fictional and only created for ratings and entertainment and don’t believe in false hopes, because chances are you’ll only be disappointed. If Chris Chan got the love and help he needed, he’d probably wouldn’t do all the horrible things he’s done and got arrested. Anyway, thanks for reading and have a great day! 😊 Edit: I’m currently 22 and am just finishing up my semester! I have more friends now that share my interests! I’m also working on going to a fashion camp at CCAD and working on new creations. ❤
I also was terminally online with undiagnosed autism, my story is similar to yours. I was too into MMORPGs and growing up with Tumblr was awful for myself because I thought the people I've met online were a portrayal of the rest of the world 😭 Life gotten stressful after I moved out to dorm at university, I understand now looking back I was not ready to make that decision. There were too many changes and I should've asked for a reduce course load as accommodation (the Quarterly schedule, Chaos, lack of social skills was a lot to take in). It was only after I left college on Leave of Absence that I actually was able to get my shit together and pull myself out of Misery. My friends and family were great support base and working a graveyard shift with my co-workers (they are very understanding and kind) that I was able to expand my world more. They helped me with social training that my autism needed. Things are better- better than they were in the past. I hope things are well for you too. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees their problems the same as Chris. Theres always hope, and if theres no hope, theres always change. Happiness is fought for. Good luck! Edit: split into paragraphs for ease of reading.
@@FrostySnow1000I fully understand what you’re saying; it took me until this year to realize that all the shows I grew up worshipping were fake and I was just wasting all my time living up to an illusion. It didn’t really help my autism because it only made me act crazier. You seem like a very genuine and caring person who’ll archive great things in life. Just don’t let your shortcomings take a toll on you. ❤
I believe media and social media in the current year could serve as a trap for alot of people. We need good people around us to keep us grounded and to prevent us from venturing into a fantasy world of our own making. Too many individuals out there seek to take advantage of anyone who may have entire worlds inside of them.
The thing is, there was so much time in the early days for people to help him, the warning signs were there. And he was a child, and very childlike in his early adulthood. I know that's not an excuse, and vile behaviour of people with autism should never be excused, but I do feel like someone should have done more for him back in the day, and maybe he wouldn't have become the monster he is now.
As a self proclaimed Christorian here are some added notes: - After his name change Chris regarded the Bear from the mall in high regards, often giving prayers to “Jesus, God, and the Bear” - In the Nintendo Lawsuit clip you can hear Chris say the same Jay-Z. This is because a trolled had hilariously convinced him the Nintendo’s official lawyer was non other than Jay-Z. - Bluespike was really hated by most of the other trolls at the time and many trolls tried to tell Chris he was Panda, but Chris simply refused to listen. - The names Liquid and Solid Chris were created by trolls as a reference to Metal Gear Solid - In the edited then leaked video of Bob interrupting Chris Bob says his propably second most famous quote of “You uploaded the videos, you unload them!” - After being arrested Chris-Chan wrote a hilarious letter to a fan detailing how he had read the Quran while in jail. He then compared it to the Simpsons and the Bible to Family Guy, which is a reference to Chris being a huge fan of Family Guy but not liking the Simpsons.
Chris Chandler’s story is genuinely so sad. I hate seeing pictures of him as a kid because it could have all gone so differently. He could have lived a normal happy life if he had better people in his life helping and guiding him.
"normal happy life" I don't think that was ever going to happen for Chris. Internet or not, he was still an incel creep who doesn't have the brain function to live a decent life.
As a guy with Autism, I am disturbed to see what he has become. He shares some similar symptoms such as pacing, avert eye contact when speaking, and obsession with a subject. Chris chan is mentally unstable to a degree that I can’t even begin to discuss. There were so many opportunities to better himself, but unfortunately, he had already lost himself when giving in to his own fantasies. Chris is the example of what I could have been, hadn’t I not gotten special ed or learn to socialize with people.
I have autism myself, and I replaced a dog missing leg, 3 star cooking skills, martial artist that knows Kempo, can’t drive but can get anywhere in my state, someone that has too look after 2 dogs and pay my parents rent. Autism isn’t a crippling disability, autism either make you a Chris chan, or the making of a infant god that can change the world. I feed on knowledge, but I still got more, that I need to improve on. I am not perfect but I have to keep improving or I will be suffer from lacking knowledge.
She also showed up in 2018 and was gunna be part of a student film about chris chan but when it was revealed that the makers weren't doing a good job and were asking for way to much money she reconsidered tho there is a sound bite of her from the deleted trailer
The pre internet era of Chris is the golden era people don’t realize. While in high school, he was clearly thinner, more social, and able to grow and change, but then it went down hill and Sonichu gained control of him
I just want to say that Chris Chan is quite literally a PRIME example of digital footprint. With how basically their WHOLE LIFE and Infamy is available for the world to read and witness. It is incredibly insane to be able to watch a video as long as this simply because of the footprint they have left behind.
If i got a message from my future self that said I would have a 3 hour documentary on me .I'd just end my life, only bad things need that long to explain.
@@justintrouble8 I like looking at this documentary in a way to think more about what I post on the internet. While you’re right about a documentary this long only came out of them being a very bad person. But I think another thing to gain from it is to really think about what we as people decide to post on the internet. Because this stuff is going to follow Chris-Chan FOREVER. They can’t escape it. (Which is a good thing because they’re a terrible person).
I guess but that's only because he is constantly showing his face and saying his full name and what schools he goes too. Most people that say wild stuff on the internet are completely anonymous and nothing will happen to them. I find the whole "DiGiTaL fOoTpRiNt YaLl" thing so stupid because unless if you give away personal information about yourself and say and do some horrible stuff, no college or job employer is gonna give a shit about what you say online.
Watching this makes me feel like Matthew McConaughey in interstellar watching the past through a black hole, and screaming "NO NO NO" before something happens
Chris chan serves as a constant reminder to me to get out and touch grass, even when I feel safest at home with my cat and the internet. Having real interactions with real people is so important to maintaining your mental health and grasp on reality
tthats BS. if you are introvert or you have sociel anxiety you are better off with not having anyone around and you still are sane. you're implying that all who don't want contact to "real " people and rather play games are madmen .
Uh, what? I don’t fit into any of those categories but I still know about him. (If that comment wasn’t meant to be passive aggressive then I’m sorry. I’m autistic myself and have trouble reading intent at the best of times) Also I was typing that as I watched the video, hence the all capitals. I was fucking shitting myself laughing at the time
It's always sad to revisit this story. By no means was Chris perfect in the beginning, but throughout the course of this saga you see an awkward, mentally handicapped man slowly degrade into a complete scumbag. I'd call it tragic but really it's its own category at this point.
Yeah, I agree. Clearly his parents never cared enough to intervene with his more than strange behaviours when they were in their earlier stages. I ponder about how Chris’ sanity fared in an environment like his sometimes.
It's a consequence of the Dimensional Merge jiggling the universe which convinced God to do the thug shaker, messing up spacetime so badly that it gave Chris Chan's life foreshadowing
What he did to hes mom was forshadowed 12 years ago. He talked about having a wet dream of hes mom. And if you wanna get technically this may have been forshadowed almost 2 decades ago, as Chris took hes mom to the prom The writers don't know what subtly means :v
Not really truamatizing, just a overated boring story. You can pretty much overplay any persons story like this. Seems like only ipad kids and people that think theyre quirky keep track of this
“Some people think we should hide the cruel nature of the world from young people, particularly those with disabilities, and the story of Chris Chan is a great example of why we _shouldn’t._ Children all grow up and have to go out into the world and deal with its unfairness, and we need to give them the tools they need to do that. Any illusion we give them is going to be broken eventually, and it will make it that much harder to face the music when they inevitably have to.” -Zephyr the 7th
I'm sorry, what? Fake deep quote. Bullying Chris for years upon years was not an effective tool in any sense. It was simply cruel, no benefits. All it did was make it worse. You know what else is just as effective? Kindness, compassion and real mental help, of which he received too little, and instead got too much cruelty. I hope they put him in a mental health rehabilitation center where he can get real help.
I mean, the moment a person loses his desire to believe things will have a happy ending they lose most of the reason most people keep going and try to be happy. Sometimes is better to have faith in a better future then just realizing nothing will actually improve.
@@jobellywelly7025 I think you're misunderstanding the quote. It's not saying young people should be abused, because the world is horrible. It's saying young people should be taught that there are abusers out there and how to avoid them. If they don't, they will learn what abuse is by being abused.
@Spencer Thanks for clarifying that. I see now that I did misunderstand the quote. I'm glad this is what it really means instead, and I definitely agree.
A troll that spends hours and hours catfishing an autistic man trying to take the moral high ground and telling them that they’re wasting they’re time playing video games is the epitome of the most mirroring thing I’ve ever seen
This whole thing is pretty tragic honestly. Chris is clearly not the best person. But people really abused the shit out of a mentally sick person as well. It was hard to listen to this story and felt very cruel from both Chris actions and the trolls that abused him constantly. I feel esp bad for those women tho. Good god.
@@philip_siHeya Ian Brandon Anderson no need to be telling people they're "wasting time" for playing video games or trying to convince someone to change.
Like many on here commenting, I also have high functioning Autism and there are parts in this documentary that are tough to watch. Somehow, I'm able to hold down a job and relationship, but there are days when I just find it so difficult to mentally process everything going on. I thankfully don't have the deviant predilections Chris has, but so much of his growing up and dysfunctional view of love and romance were issues i struggled with as a teenager and young adult. I also had zero counseling growing up, which would've made a considerable difference, I believe, but my subconscious efforts at masking the symptoms fooled most of those around me until I was older. If you suspect you are on the spectrum but have never been diagnosed or been to counseling, I can't recommend it highly enough.
I'm also autistic and i have a hard time listening to how people troll him. They do it because he is autistic and they find him weird. I still see people do that to autistic people today. Its upsetting. But i do think Chris' mom made chris worse. Excusing bad behaviour throughout chris' life. She could've made sure chris came out mostly functioning but chose to excuse it instead which made it worse. Chris never learned to see their wrongs
I'm 27, just last year it was brought to my attention that I could be high functioning with ADHD. I've been diagnosed with anxiety and depression (my doctor unofficially diagnosed Manic Bipolar at 20, at said point therapy and psychiatrist wasn't an option). I recently got good insurance, like good enough to go to specialist. I know I am neurodivergent; which one or how many is the real question. Like one note you hit on relationship; I'm not really good or bad like I have a few close friends had them for long periods at this point but I have issues maintaining romantic relationships. Partly due to trauma, the other part because of the neurodivergence and the communication issues that come with being neurodivergent. I've gotten use to calling myself neurodivergent since I'm likely (1,2,or all) autistic, ADHD, CPTSD; all which fall under the umbrella of neurodivergence. (Dark humor: I joke that either I was born this way, or years of trauma created the neurodivergence. But accurate given the three likely diagnosis) It's for this reason I found Chris' case both interesting and unnerving, as it hits a little close at times. So I empathize with your comment 110%.
I am autistic and watching this video was painful. I understand that Chris has done a lot of bad things and isn't a good person but I feel like Tom is unnecessary cruel to him, just like the trolls. This entire situation isn't funny or insane or wtf - it is just extremely sad. Chris clearly has mental problems that needed to be addressed years ago. And all the people who abuse him are just as bad. I just feel deeply distressed by the entire story and the video.
I will admit I'm surprised that you didn't go into the fact that Bob paid those girls to be Chris' friends because he believed his son was incapable of making friends on his own
@@SweetMeatTM There was a girl that would wait for Chris at the bus stop that Bob would pay to interact with his son going so far to give Chris $20 to give to her and the boy was completely unaware. In high school Bob continued to pay girls to be Chris' friends and later on in life one of the girls told Chris "we were never really your friends. Your dad was paying us to be around you and we pitied you" Chris not wanting to believe it went to ask his mom who confirmed that it was true
This made me wanna cry. This man-child was failed by his parents, his school (kinda) and his psychiatrists. It's like they dropped a man with dementia in the middle of leicester square. There are people worse off than him with autism who aren't nearly as damaged. My own brother works a job, has a girlfriend, and avoids arguements and minds his own business, when he started on the same line as Chris. depressing...
As someone with autism and a video game addiction... this is pretty uncomfortable to watch. It makes me want to stop playing games outright and focus more on fulfilling my personal life goals out of sheer panic that I could be/could've been Chris Chan.
Addiction with anything can lead you down a dark path, but there were many other things there going against him. When I was I was a kid I was big into sonic and had many friends that enjoyed sonic and they first told me about Chris Chan. Many people on the internet were dedicated to destroying his life at that and continue on wards. I don’t think he did anything bad at that time, he was just cringy and everyone wanted blood. You don’t have to worry about becoming like him. I’ve met many success people with autism.
Dont worry, you did not become like him you are putting your professional goals in front of Video Games in terms of Priorities and there are MANY Autistic People who PROVED that Autistim is just the term for being EVER SO slightly more unique than average
I don't think it's video games. Just a huge lack of concern for anything else. I love video games. It's really the only thing I enjoy doing. But I still have a full time job and can be responsible.
EVERYONE failed Chris. He failed himself. His family failed him. The internet failed him. The system failed him. Absolutely incredible just how...I can't even put it into words.
@@ashumionline7632 if you probe into this content for long enough, you'd see that Megan is no saint herself. She took advantage of Chris financially while he bought her toys and she only bailed when it was too much for her.
It's kinda scary how close I could've been another Chris-Chan. I thankfully went through early intervention therapy for my autism, which has helped immensely.
Yeah same here. Didn't do any intervention therapy stuff, just had buddies who cared enough for me to call me out on whatever dumb sh1t I was doing. I'm kinda glad I actually didn't go through any intervention therapy, probably would have inflated my ego even more...especially in my youth where I literally thought there was a growing conspiracy against me.
Love how you went into more detail with Barb. Had no idea she almost killed Cole on accident. Irresponsible mother. Although she never deserved what Chris did to her.
To preface, there's no excuse for incestuous activity with your demented mother, but it should still be noted that Chris described many innappropriate interactions that Barb demanded Chris do such as sleeping and cuddling in her bed after his father passed (there were others as well). And Barb is 99% responsible for the neglect and inappropriate upraising that prevented Chris from receiving adequate attention for his mental issues. All I'm saying is that Chris is a horrible person ... but so is Barb.
@@jmwilsoND Agreed. I'm tried of people absolving her of responsibility just because she ended up a victim. She was a victim of her OWN machinations. Now, before braindead idiots say 'they're not absolving her of responsibility' and just 'she didn't deserve it', nah. She absolutely did. She made, groomed and raised a monster. Dementia or no dementia, she never once had to pay for being a terrible mother her entire life. What Chris did to her was nothing more than poetic. They are both terrible individuals, and victims of each other. Both are nutcases, and both deserve everything that came to them.
Honestly, if parents keep ignoring their children and let them be raised by Internet and Ipads, we will probably get many more Chris-Chans. He was basically neglected his whole life. Even after all that happened I can't help but think it would have been at least partially avoidable if the parents actually did something.
@@stoneyJutsu Exactly, he was destroyed by his parents' incompetence and utter ignorance. The fact that he could have been a completely different person is genuinely heartbreaking.
@tarfielarchelone2674 it doesn't require a degree to understand that if you bring a kid to the world you have to pay attention to it until they're 18. In his case he proved multiple times to be untrustworthy, yet they kept ignoring the issue.
They quite literally turned an entire human life into their own sadistic joke. You get one shot at life and his was completely hijacked and ruined all to get a few laughs.
I’ve worked with so many different dementia patients. They are so vulnerable and terrified. They go in and out of the reality that they just experienced the worst of situations, they know that for a while they were incapable of doing anything independently. They know they lost the ability to remember the name of their loved ones. One of the patients was speaking to me about how he missed his dog so dearly, i idiotically asked what the dog looked like. As he was in his own moment remembering his best mf friend who he loves so much, I had gotten the response “ I don’t remember “. they just want to die in peace before their kids had to be “burdened” with their deaths. The kids are slowly getting used to being sad about their parents, the world has become so full of hell. And you’ll be in and out until you can’t even eat anymore. To go through that and have your scary creepy son rape you repeatedly is so hard to deal with.
this comment actually is pretty hard. It makes me thnk back ot my own pets in the past, and do I remember what they look like? *i friggin dont* i'd have to see them to remember them 100%and thats kinda sad. i wonder though, why i can still feel the memory of them being with me in life , even if i cannot recreate their image in my mind? the feeling of loving my pets will be with me forever, even if i might not even remember their names
Damn Tom, been killing it with the content lately and now we're blessed with a full 3 hour documentary. Strapping in for this one, keep up the great work.
@@CollaateraL People think autistic people are 100% unaware. I have met so many autistic people online that are just vicious, manipulative and cruel and when called out I have had more than one say " Who's gonna believe you? You're just some ableist ass that survived cancer and I have Autism, so they'll just think you're being a jerk to me while I'm in the right to attack you because how dare you insult me, such an easy target? " - I have met at least three that are fully aware of it and just scum that coast through life on the excuse " I'm autistic, give me money and food. "
I feel like Chris's story would've just been that of a mentally ill adult and his neglectful mother wreaking havoc on a video game store owner for a decade had he never gone online. Some of the lengths those trolls went to get a rise out of him are outright sinister. The dude clearly had problems yet they antagonized and harrassed him for years.
Children are generally all sociopaths until they get it bullied or disciplined out of them well before they even approach double-digits in age. @@xrphoenix7194 That particular troll is just a particularly dumb child that didn't have the lesson sink in until way way too late.
It does make you wonder what his life would have looked like if he never jumped onto the early internet. He didn't have a chance in hell back in the 2000s internet.
Chris Chan is the physical embodiment of a car crash. It’s sad, horrifying, and messy but you can’t look away. He is an incredible specimen, the likes of which we will never see again. It’s hard to articulate how much of a fantastic monster Chris is
He's a semi-truck jackknifing on a highway during a winter storm after totalling a schoolbus full of special needs children causing another semi-truck transporting countless organ transplants to flip, losing power and spoiling all organs and when we all thought it was over another semi-truck ran into and killed all first responders causing a similar course of events multiple times over... and of course you can't help but stop and watch
"little did poor Megan know that the power of the chaos emeralds rendered Chris impervious to reality checks of any nature." 5 star writing and delivery my friend.
I kept going back and forth from "wow, poor Chris" to "wow, Chris is awful." This whole video is second hand embarrassment and like, sympathetic whiplash.
@@A5H_01For real dude. I will say though in hindsight, I’m kind of astounded at the lack of self awareness and inability to learn even just by trial and error. I was partially raised by an uncle I have who is on the spectrum & yea he’s a little awkward, but he’s able to figure people out by observation & he’s never lost a job. He did a great job raising me even if we did mostly just watch Predator & Godzilla movies and play dodgeball
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"Moral of the story... actually there is no moral. Some stories are just sad and disgusting from start to finish"
- Sam O'Nella
TRUE WORDS
All praise Shiva Gautama Christ Chan.
If salmonella did a three hour documentary on Chris Chan I would nut
@RickeyDart
"Some stories are just sad and disgusting from start to finish""
I think you meant to say "engrossing and hilarious" with which I would totally agree.
Which video of his was this from?
Fun fact: If you just watch the first 15 minutes, this video is just an uplifting feel-good story of a boy with autism and a troubled home situation who makes the most of it, befriending his peers in highschool and having a great 18th birthday.
imagine if he actually stuck through college or grew out of his Pokemon obsession...
I'm 9 minutes in I hope this boy gets the support and love he needs to mature
Perfect for my attention span. What happens after that? I hope something nice?! :)
@@cbhlde he went on to be a legendary graphics designer and singlehandedly revolutionized the entire concept of graphic arts as we know it
@@shinka2109 WOW, that IS nice. Thanks for the info. ;) Have a great day! :)
A friend of mine once got drunk watching that one big documentary on Chris and said "This Sonichu thing is clearly a demon that choose Chris as its victim" and that stood out to me.
would explain a lot, Chris's own canon with magichan is not too far off
It's an interesting thought... And yeah, it fits his own head canon.
Your friend is terrifyingly insightful.
@@TheOwneroftheIC before the Kiwi Farms went down there was a thread with pictures of him on wallmart. He seems to be in a group home and access to the internet probably limited .
@Cristian Araujo No, man, see, the cobra demons are way more powerful. They beat the cobra angels all the time.
You think the sonichu medallion talks to Chris like the green goblin suit talks to Willem Dafoe?
On god it does
A sonic and pikachu bizarre creation, with william dafoe voice. That is gold
Given how that thing somehow never leaves his neck, there might be a good case for it. The one party who hasn't looked at Chris is an exorcist. It would not suprise me if he saw _something else_ pulling the strings behind the tragedies of Chris Chan's life.
"The heartsweet, Chandler! First we attack his heartsweet!"
You think you can come up with an original comment and not just copy the older comments saying the same thing?
If his dad destroyed his computer in 2009 that would’ve been the best thing that could’ve happened to him.
THIS is why we need a time machine not to prevent catastrophes or put modern technology into the past but to see what becomes of this guy if he wasn't uh more redditor
@@Ezaliasnotoreel It was a canon event
@@vespertil10 Chris is An anomaly
@@tanushjaison5972 he chose the bad ending
would’ve been the best thing that could’ve happened to the world.
I'm only a few minutes into this documentary, and that letter that Chris's father wrote telling him to take care of and love Barb just makes my skin crawl knowing how this all ended.
it made me sosooo sad
Tragedy in its purest form. My dad never wrote such things for me, yet I still made an effort to grow and develop beyond their expectations.
She doesn’t deserve any care at all. If she had attempted to be a good mother at any point, Chris would have been very different. Instead she infantilised him, belittled him, didn’t seek relevant help for him, emotionally manipulated him, didn’t provide any form of decent nutrition, and was overly physically smothering with him. She is a terrible woman
@@liamburns8554 that doesn’t justify her rape though😭
@@chuubm no it doesn’t. If that is exactly what happened. I am not stating it didn’t, but ultimately we don’t know all the details yet.
Man, Bobs letter to Chris is absolutely heartbreaking when you see how Chris turned out. It was so wholesome and loving, and he had no idea how much of a bastard Chris would be.
It was Bob's last attempt at getting through to Chris as he knew he couldn't just go back to his old life with his first born children who would eventually achieve the academical success that Bob wanted for Chris.
A broken man growing up through the time.
It is sad... but at the same time I can imagine his father ghost reacting.
Bob's spirit while watching Chris: No no no. Stop. What are you doing? What are you doing with your life?
(Yes, I am referencing Markiplier for those who didn't understand)
Why are we assuming Bob wasn’t extremely abusive?
@@kr3016 I don't think an abusive father would write to his son a heart warming message. I mean it could be before Chris goes haywire.
It’s honestly diabolical how his “turn offs” are basically describing him.
You'll notice people sometimes project how they feel. The fact chris clearly projects his self hatred and desires tells me he no longer has his own will. He's a slave to his broken childhood and trauma
Thanks for being "honest", dork
@@Steve-hj6xv bruh lolllll
Chris is the best example on how to not raise a kid, who you shouldn't be and how to not act towards others.
Barbara in the next life needs to take so many notes while Bob needs to bail.
For those less in the know, this is a plan the fact that Chris has said that both parents will be reincarnated.
A true triple threat.
The father is kinda Ok person but his mother are the real problem here base on her past relationship and history.
What Pokémon and internet access does to a mf'er
Chris is the best of example of just...no. Everything no.
Megan is a genuine good hearted person, some people deserves a friend like Megan. makes me mad how Chris abused her and just saw her as a sexual object
its crazy how much patients she had, truly a great person
Ehhh, she deeply enabled him early on, and having someone so desperate for interaction with woman buy you things, even if she said it wasn’t romantic, is going to make him think certain things. Overall, she could’ve handled it better, but it seems her heart was in the right place.
@@ryanrzjr this is so victim blamey. he offered to buy her things while she made it clear she wasn't romantically interested. its not her fault he couldn't take no for an answer and for you to say it is directly contributes to rape culture. if you do something nice hoping to get sex in return, you can't blame the other person for not fulfilling your expectations
@@libbychalios7562 The first message they shared (while they had in person contact prior) was her ASKING him to buy her things. She didn’t deserve what Chris had done to her, but she wasn’t someone who “helped” Chris in any way. I agree that you can’t expect sex by doing something nice, but she actively entertains this KNOWING his intentions with it. It’s like saying you weren’t cheating when you chose to stay friends with some who actively was trying to get you to cheat.
Pointing out how she enabled him, an autistic person who had made it completely obvious he would do just about anything to lose his virginity, isn’t victim blaming. You can point out how people may have messed up in a situation without asserting they deserved what they got.
@@ryanrzjr do you know what consent is???
As a Autistic kid growing up, the hardest thing for me to understand was that not everyone is your friend, not everyone is laughing with you, people are using you for the joke and make fun of you. I’m so glad to have a mom that understood that I was different and was able to help me see that. Seeing Chris’s history just makes me sad because I was him at one point. I feel like if he just had some type of consistent help this might of gone differently.
As an autistic kid the most important thing I learned is that anything you say is probably wrong so it's best to just never interact with anyone.
the lack of support in Chris's life was probably one of the biggest contributing factors in creating the monster we see today. im glad your mom is supportive and helpful
I know exactly how that feels -- my past was exactly about struggling to understand these notions. I'm glad my parents helped me learn past that too.
Bro I was a regular kid who looked like every other kid and still got bullied, beaten (by teachers, principal and my parents) laughed at and wasn't even allowed outside of my house or to even look through a window or be allowed to get summer jobs to get allowance (bc parents wouldn't give money to a girl anyways why would u need it. U ain't goint nowhere. While my bros got treated like princes)had no rights to have friends bc mom was against it and no communication with the outside world other than going to school. i ve seen kids who got less problems than me, and still ended up either dropping out of school and becoming delinquents or shooting up schools
The autistic kids in my school who were just verbally bullied and never beaten (bc who would beat an autistic kid?) Turned out amazing. Had good lives and excelled in their studies. They weren't even being followed up by drs except for one of them which had also mental problems in addition to autism. Her dad built a private school and named it after her and made her the owner of the school. She deserves the best honestly. Such a nice girl with the biggest heart. She had a hard time reading people's emotions so she always assumed the worse out of people. That's why she dropped outta school.
To be fair Chris was also always a bit of a knob, with or without the autism
Learning about Chris-Chan is like finding the necronomicon, where instead of gaining dark, unknown from eldritch and becoming insane from the horror, you just go insane from the horror
Fax
It’s just a bunch of weird autistic bullshit 😂
That just describes Azathoth, an entity described as a cosmic idiot
If Chris doesn't want to date you because of the color of your skin, don't be offended, just be grateful he doesn't want to date you.
@lakojake4215
Chris isn't actually racist. The reason that they wanted to have a girlfriend who was specifically "white" was that Chris had had a dream that they believed was prophetic, in which they had a "white" daughter named Crystal. If Chris had a girlfriend who wasn't "white", then the supposed prophecy wouldn't have been fulfilled.
@@Optimegatrongodzillabruh
@@brodyspears8290 What? It's true. Chris genuinely believed that that dream was prophetic.
@@OptimegatrongodzillaI honestly buy that, this man was deranged enough to believe in prophecies.
@@Optimegatrongodzillawith yall its never racist till the n word is said 😂
Honestly gotta give Megan some credit for putting up with Chris for so long. Literally gave him several undeserved chances and was excruciatingly patient with him
she actually used chris and had him buy her a ton of nazi memorabilia from ebay using his credit card. Little sus that she is german, last name Schroeder.
Right she better than me 😭😂 cuz I woulda dipped after that first weird shit😭😂
She apparently had a brother with Autism, so she felt a lot of sympathy for him
M mmm., I'm
There's a lesson to be learned with Megan. Even morons like Chris are capable of taking advantage of one's kindness.
Chris Chan lives the type of life that makes you - no matter what you may be going through or have gone through - grateful that you will never, _ever_ end up like him. His story is a cautionary tale of how _not_ to conduct your life.
Now many people behave like this and think it is acceptable. Many such cases.
I won't lie, sometimes I think I'm not as much better as Chris Chan ngl, just don't have the same exposition to an audience he had
Exactly. Me myself, I have aspergers and socially awkward with some health issues but Chris here makes me feel like I don't have autism or social awkwardness. I'm quite thankful that my mom helped me with some of my issues so I didn't become like Chris, otherwise where will I be now?
@@PaulieMcCoy who thinks that?
Yep. No matter what challenges life throws at you, take comfort in the fact that you are not Chris Chan.
"Do angels have names?" is legit a better version of the line, I'm actually impressed. Oh how far he fell
was thinking the same thing!
Yeah good idea, ima use the Chris chan rizz
It always makes me sad how Bob always seemed to see the best in Chris, even in his dying days, he seemed to fully expect Chris to not only be willing to take care of his mother in his absence, but be capable of doing so. You’d think after he’d spent 30-ish years with Chris, that he’d be able to know that he was not only not capable of taking care of anyone, but incapable of recognizing that anyone but himself might need to be taken care of, but no, he always saw the best in his son, even when the mediocre wasn’t even there.
When Bob wrote chris that letter about inheriting his things, I saw the disconnect in Bob you're describing here
Tom didn't mention it but during the whole Miyamoto trolling saga Bob and Barb legit thought that Sonichu was famous and there were japanese bussinessmen looking to buy the IP. They were just too old and clueless of the internet
It's clear bob was autistic as well and despite being pretty smart and capable in a lot of ways he was obviously lacking in other areas
In some ways, it’s honestly super sweet how much faith and love he had for his son. That letter he wrote for him nearly broke my heart.
Bob hoped Chris would be better, but he was an awful parent as well and partially responsible for why Chris is the way he is
It’s crazy to me that this drama started so long ago. I was in my mid 20s and single. Now I’m divorced and have a teenager and two preteens. And there’s Zoomers who look at this as ancient history. It’s bonkers how much influence this had on internet culture today.
My youngest is non verbal autistic and the CWC saga taught me all the wrong ways to raise a spectrum child so I’m just doing the opposite. So I guess that’s a silver lining.
This comment is so interesting
Christory really did affect the course of many people's lives
this drama started before i was born haha
Man all this was happening and I was watching Naruto AMVs to Avril Lavigne songs and finding punk pop and scene culture. I didn't know anything of this going on despite being in high school.
as a fellow autistic person, thank you. we’re not all like chris i promise! i wish u and ur son nothing but the best 💚
This is a weirdly wholesome comic on such a dark video. I hope you and your family are doing well :)
What's crazy to me is that his art skills never progressed over the years.
Honestly probably goes into his narcissistic personality maybe in his eyes his art was at perfection, Therefore never bothered to improve
@@kumatheronin8961what do you mean maybe? It WAS artistic perfection
Dude is forever drawing like a drunken first grader
@@MyGrassIsGreenestmore like an autistic 1st grader
you only progress in art when you make an effort. need i say more???
I refuse to believe that this is an actual human being I share a planet with.
Chris Chan is the closest thing we have to a real life Truman show. But autistic and horrifying
Chris is more 'The Hills Have Eyes' than 'The Truman Show'.
Well I'd say it's closer to the book wich is still horrifying
The ending of truman show was great but imagine if it ended with Jim Carrey banging his mum.
@@JudgeFish It would have ruined the fucking movie.
Why does he look like him tho
As someone who's seen a few documentaries on chris-chan, 3 hours doesn't feel like enough lmao
moufronn
@@SteveMT8484 I think it'll reach the 90 ~45min episodes
Real shit
Really I feel like 2hrs and 45 mins to long.
Oh shit I just noticed this was 3 hours lmao it’s been like 10 mins to me
I’m autistic myself and I’m absolutely grateful that my parents gave me as much help as they can. I get the struggle of raising someone like me, but Chris’s parents really did nothing and look at how they turned out. I turned 18 last July and I’m graduating this Friday so I’m nervous about my future but I’m excited for it
Hey man, I hope you're doing well!! Wishing you luck in your future endeavors!!
To be fair, Bob actually tried to be a parent while Barb did a whole lot on nothing at the time. Considering the time and place where Chris was born (parents way too old and understanding of autism was limited at the time), Chris was essentially doomed from the start.
Good luck bud you got this you may low key be a genius
Good luck to you, and all the best!
I’m autistic too, and yeah, parts of this story really stand out to me within that context. I genuinely think that if their parents were better, if they got proper help, and if they weren’t falsely medicated, things wouldn’t have turned out this way. It’s quite the tragedy.
Chris was a bad person, surrounded by bad people.
This is the most jarring and whiplash inducing emotional roller coaster of a story i have ever heard. You know shit is bad when trolls start stopping other trolls from going too far. Its just depressing.
I feel awful for Megan and how often Chris abused her good nature and people-pleasing tendencies.
She was far too patient with him and WAY too understanding. I hope she's doing alright.
She's a nazi lover.
I'm glad she cut all ties with him. I wonder if she knows about everything that has happened so far, how low and depraved he has become.
me too. She seemed like a really kind & patient person. The kind of person who figured she'd try to help the poor guy because that's just how she is. And when people like Chris take advantage of that, those people might be ever-so-slightly less willing to go out of their way to help someone in the future.. and that makes the world an ever-so-slightly worse place :/
@@idontwantahandlethough she’s a nazi
She was literally the only positive friend that tried to help. I wish her the best it's so sad she had to go through that.
Megan has the patience of a saint. If it takes that much to drive her off she must be IMPOSSIBLY tolerant to a normal person. I hope her sane friends know how lucky they are to have her.
The fact she always accept “gifts” from her denounces her. She was taking advantage of him
You need to actually study Christory because she had a romantic infatuation with N@zi soldiers and basically collected pix of them
@@Sluglove “you need to actually study Christory”. listen champion i think its time you take a break from the internet. go for a walk clear your head
@@Sluglove "You need to actually study Christory" oh fuck no. There are more enjoyable and less painfull ways to die.
@Reganissupercute can't tell if your joking but the are thousands of more important and useful things I could be using the internet to study
Can we all take a moment to appreciate Megan's strict e-mail to Chris Chan? Girl was spitting straight fire.
Yeah it’s sad AF how many chances she kept giving him even after that email
@@ShaiGuyz because she was using him to buy her stuff of ebay with his credit card. She got a lot of nazi memorabilia that way
Alec's message as well
Girl is a gem her Patience was insane while watching this I was screaming GIRL RUN
Those reality checks just did 0 damage to chris in the end unfortunately
ok turky tom. i was on the fence about you.
but you somehow managed to blend humor, intelligent discourse, condemnation when appropriate and just the right amount of compassion in a way that i find admirable.
im FINALLY subbing
As an autistic man, this serves as a mirror in my own life. Who I could have become had things gone just a bit differently. If I was less self-aware, if my parents were a bit too lenient and carefree, if I didn't have healthy boundaries established for me. It's haunting and it makes me think.
I'm gonna go sign up for some classes so I can get out more.
oh me too. i guarantee if i had been just a little less self aware and had just a little bit less luck finding genuine friends, i would’ve been an internet lolcow.
Fellow autistic man here, I know exactly what you mean. It really is haunting to say the least
If you have enough self awareness yhat youre afraid of being him, you were never as bad as him and never wouldve become like him, so dont worry about it too much
Don't compare yourself to someone like Chris Chan. With that being said good luck with those classes and keep your head up fren
enjoy your classes, friend! ❤
There are a lot of names, so I made a resume to make it easy to fallow
-Chris Chan (Christopher/Christian/ Christine)
-Sonichu: a character that chris created
-Bob and Barbara: Chris parents
-Megan: A girl that was a friend of Chris, she had a lot of pattience for Chris even when he wrong her a lot
-Rocky: an old lady that becomes Chris confidant in real life
-Catherine: a girl that date Chris as a joke that goes wrong
-Ivy: Another troll pretending to be a girl that fall in love with Chris
-The Guard Dogs: a group made by the capitan, Marvin (The Pickleguy) and null that try (and succed) to help Chris during the idea guys arc
Antagonists (real life):
-Mary Lee: The dean of Chris school, she was the main antagonist in his sonichu comic
-Mike Snyder: the owner of a videogame store where Chris was banned, Chris tried to run over him... Twice
Antagonists (internet trolls):
-Vivian Gee: she stared as a Troll, but then she became an ... ally???, she was honest to Chris about how the world seems him she even Made a full audiobook to help him
-Blanca: A fake account made by three trolls, they take Chris Medallion of Sonichu, they also create the character the called "The Pickleman" identity later taked by Marvin
-Marvin: also called the Pickleman, he dressed in a pickle costume and trolled Chris, the most famous one is the time that he prank a fake date with a girl called Emily in a mail and then Pickleguy came and asked Emily for a date (and she agrees because all was planned), he stop trolling Chris after the death of Bob to later became part of the Guard Dogs to defeat the idea guys
-Clyde Cash: he trolls Chris calling him gay, he created the gruop the Miscreants (a gruop of trolls), he rape the fake girlfriend of Chris called Panda, he also made himself pass as nintendo staff, in the end he gave an advice to Chris out of pitty for the Blue Spike situation
-Blue Spike: part of the Miscreants, Bluespike trolls Chris making roleplay sexcalls and made him admits some weird things as an alterego called Julie, he also bully and sexual abuse Chris as his alterego Max, the evil brother of Julie, he was one of the most wicked, sadistic and evil trolls, even Clyde had to intervine and ban him from The Miscreants
-Liquid Chris: my favorite character, he made himself pass as the original Chris, he made everything that Chris do but better, he accomplish everthing that Chris ever wanted like having a girlfriend and a job, he leaves
-Alec Benson: created a parody of sonichu, he also has two alter egos Jackie and his evil exboyfriend Lars, he becomes a friend to Chris later under the alterego of Jackie he tries to help him to improve his life, thanks to him Chris stop posting on internet for 8 month
- Idea guys: a group of 4 trolls (Joshua Allen and Stephen Boyd mostly) that made chris thought that all realities were mixing, they stole $6000 dollars from Chris and his family, they made Chris draw Sonichu being rape by him (this can sound funny but when you know that Chris see Sonichu as his son) they really mess with Chris mind and his idea about incest they were defeated thanks to "the Guard Dogs"
-Isabella Janke: the one that expose the rape/incest relationship between Chris and his mother Barb, Isabella is probably the most evil person in this story she is a sociopath that wanted to be the biggest troll in Chris history, her end goal was to Made Chris commit sucide
In the end we have an anti lesson of how to live and what happens when a person with mental health doesnt get the help that he need
this is actually so helpful. i was having trouble keeping up with who was who during the vid since it's so long, so thanks :D
Isabella deserves jail time. She’s the real lolcow. We will read about her on the news one day when they find dead babies buried in her yard or something equally as terrible.
thankyou!!
Thank you for your hard work
Very helpful, thanks!
Damn meghan had so much patience for Chris. Repeatedly telling chris to stop sexually harassing her but still extending a hand to remain friends is incredible. She was so charitable towards chris and asked for the BARE MINIMUM. But Chris couldnt even do that
And people are still making excuses for him in the comments, and blaming his mom for what he did.
I hate everyone.
@@johnasrican I mean, it's Chris... CWC's idea of what makes a Good Gift is probably miles away from any sane person's. I seriously doubt that it was the driving factor -- she even refused to go to PAX with him even if he'd won the tickets.
@@dewilew2137 oh his mother definitely deserves much of the blame. Accurately blaming her doesn't absolve him of any of his actions however.
@@dewilew2137 They're both to blame but one was responsible for the upbringing of the other.This is her kid,how they grew up is her doing.
@@johnasricanshe always paid him back and felt uncomfortable when he kept buying more
Huh? "Honeysuckle"? Unless that's some weird innuendo, eatin' honeysuckle is just a standard part of a normal kid's childhood...
The berries not the flower!
Some honeysuckle berries are actually very bad for you. There must've been a variant that grew in his neighborhood that was a bad type
turkey tom fans HATE putting punctuation inside of the quotes
Honestly, I cannot defend what Chris Chan did, but the lengths that people went to just to antagonize and manipulate him was really hard to learn about. The entire story is just awful.
I think Chris Chan's trolls are almost as sad and pathetic as he is. Like why dedicate so much of your time trolling some dude on the internet? At some point, it's not even funny anymore, just sad
Absolutely, both are indefensible. But when you say that now people go "But look what he did to his mom!" Except that his trolls had no idea what was going on with his mom (and for most of the trolling it probably hadn't even happened yet), they really did see an extremely gullible developmentally disabled man and said "Yeah, making a targeted and prolonged effort to screw with him would be fun."
I think it's safe to say that he was a conduit, to some extent, reflective of the evil of the trolls. I mean, Isabell Jenke is the reason for everything involved in his arrest, he wouldn't have done that on his own
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 holy shit another poetic description
@Freerocky16 even before the trolls chris had a long history of not respecting women's boundaries. Part of that is his autism, but there's only so much you can blame on that. Did the trolls help? No. No of course they didn't. That being said, painting chris as some sort of innocent victim who succumbed to bad influences just isn't accurate. If you're truly looking for someone to blame, I'd blame his parents. They made countless mistakes raising him, and Barb was actively abusive towards him.
It's kind of haunting how you can see the breakdown in communication skills over time
That's your brain on My Little Pony
He actually has a good radio/broadcast voice in that first “Song of Christian” video even if he has a little bit of a stammer. Almost a shame he deteriorated so rapidly.
With the benefit of having everything condensed into one video this was the most painful detail next to his dwindling social skills. I have limited sympathy for Chris overall but from the outside thats a literal hell…
You say breakdown as if there were good communication skills at first.
Wasn't really sure what you were talking about until I got to 2:58:30 and saw his whatsapp messages.
He used to be a pretty eloquent writer and now he writes like he can barely scramble the right words together.
I also underestimated how much time had passed since he "transitioned".
Feels like yesterday when I read the news of him mazing a gamestop employee.
Damn.
Pokémon type: autistic
Has to be one of the funniest things I've heard
Fr, nearly choked to death on my drink from that
The "coppa" fiend yu gi oh card XD XD XD
I know 💀
Lmao ppl keep calling me this guy lol I'm just a game developer lol 😆
The trolls coming up with the character named “Asperchu” was comedy gold too.
"can i get them digits?"
"No."
"Aight, u want my number then?"
"No."
"K- take my card then baby. Peace."
😎
Unmatched rizz strat 😂😂
😂
I actually had never heard the lore, just seen the memes. This is actually so horrible. A very mentally ill man, neglectful elderly parents, a group of people online taking advantage of him for fun, and the predictable fallout. This is some messed up shit.
you almost feel bad for (younger) chris, im sure if chris had parents who cared for his autism, and internet trolls werent so ruthless, so many things probably wouldve been a lot different, an example what mental neglect and bullying can do to someone
Truly "monster weren't born, they were created"
Time to watch the three day long Geno Samuel documentary.
@@viral4983 not even if internet trolls weren't so ruthless, just if his parents had actually been half decent parents and allowed him the help he needed. We'd likely be looking at just a normal person among the masses... so I guess there'd just be nobody to see.
@@chrishusted9296 i feel thats very true as well. It seems his dad at the very least really did care about him (the clip of him coming to chris when the trolls lied and said he was going to commit unalive) but if he had the developmental help he needed, he probably wouldve been 100x more functional
Though obviously its to a point. Some of the shit he did was just inexcusable and you cant blame unmet autistic needs for
Literally all of this could've been avoided if a responsible adult just stepped in, got him support from a professional and got him off the internet. In my eyes, his Mother is the biggest culprit of all. she just gave up on him completely, and ended up enabling his awful and deranged behaviour.
100%
Bro was a victim of being 100% gullible, being bullied High School style unchained for years, and his parents were too ignorant to know what the hell an internet is.
This is their failure.
Just like Racism can ONLY be taught.......so can life skills like coping and dealing with stress, dealing with liars, learning social ques, and so on.
He cant self reflect...........if he has never been taught how to self reflect in the first place.
.........and he cant get a girlfriend if he's a desperate, creepy unstable mess of a human.
His dad never taught him that women dont want some handsy, desperate creepy wierdo. They want a confident happy individual that is stable of mind and cares about their wellbeing.
Null started trying to do that but right in the midst of that altruism the idea guys and janke (spelling)? were fucking with him at which point Null fairly decided to completely step away from any involvement with Chris
Chris was forced to go to counseling in college after he sent threatening drawings to a teacher's home address after she told him to stop loitering around campus with his "looking for a boyfriend-free girl" signs. It did nothing.
Some people are just not capable of being helped.
@@arandompasserby7940 I am not a professional so I don't know what kind of facilities are out there for people extremely detached from reality, but I think it's plain to see he needs far more help than just talking to a college counsellor. He needs medication and to go through some sort of rehabilitation process whilst being supervised by qualified professionals. As morbid as it sounds, I think prison might actually be beneficial in that sense.
@@arandompasserby7940 Hes been sent to forced counseling, psychiatry, anger management classes, etc several times in his life. But these were all mandated by some force or another and therefore were short term and often focused on the particular issue rather than his issues as a whole. He needed long term counseling with a therapist specialized for his issues, and he needed it much earlier on in his life than he even ended up getting any counseling at all.
The fact that he gave up on Santa for not giving him a girl for Christmas while he was in his 20s and had graduated from college tells you all you need to know about Chris.
It also tells you a lot about college...
Yea he’s autistic way to go Einstein 😂
@@mx5701no it doesn’t ☠️
@@mx5701yeah Santa deniers propaganda
@mx5701 i mean why would they need to teach anyone about santa in college lmao. Plus its not as if he took any actual classes like calculus
Came here after his arrest
Come on ewm bodycam
It happened again?
@@titantrainer592 No, it was a leaked Body Cam video of his arrest.
Just to put it out there I was the employee at gamestop in the red shirt behind the counter. What that lunatic did was come in there causing drama over sonic booms cover. He intended to literally burn the game box with a lighter he had. He had been banned from all other gamestops In charlottesville for doing exactly that and we were warned of him and when he came in we informed him he needed to leave or security would escort him out. He then said some bs about not touching him and pulled out pepper spray and sprayed part of the front counter and sprayed our coworker directly In the face. He is absolutely unhinged and is a danger to Public safety. He was then detained outside of the fashion square mall right afterwards.
Wow that is crazy
You were a wines to history lol
@@Cyle_CWhat the hell is a Wines?
@@escapefr0mslender I Think they meant witness and honestly I'm laughing my ass off with the misspelling
What was his issue with sonic boom Lmao
There's a really weird similarity between Chris Chan's upbringing and a infamous US serial killer. There's a lot of parallels with Ed Kemper, the Co-ed Killer. Both had abusive Mothers when all they wanted was a Mum with love. And the saddest aspect to this whole saga is the world has watched Chris Chan implode online and used it as some weird entertainment. Honestly what needs to happen is takedowns of all Chris's posts and posts about him and let him lead a life away from online tournament. I'm sure Netflix has a 10 episode show about Chris Chan's life in the works. Nothing would surprise me.
Ngl I already have a pitch for a series lol 🤣 I just need to script it
Knowing a corporation like Netflix, they're probably gonna wait for Chan to die before doing that kind of series.
But yes, it's likely to happen.
Crazy that he was a sonic winner and became this monster
hey @leokimvideo where are the pest control uploads? that was really cool "goodnight sistah"
You may also notice, if you pay close attention to his behavioral patterns, that Chris not only seems incapable of original thought and actual creativity (copying tropes and ideas he sees and experiences verbatim without really understanding the context behind them), but he also seems incapable of expressing genuine emotion, except anger. It's not autism. It's diagnosed psychopathy.
All the emotional displays in his videos are completely fake and performative. He talks like he's reciting a script, because he basically is. He's copying and pasting tropes from things he's seen, and tries to equate it to how he THINKS people act when they're happy, sad, or angry. It's why he acts like a sentient live-action cartoon 99% of the time. It's all he knows how to do to get what he wants.
The only time we ever see him convey a sincere emotion is when he gets genuinely angry. We've never actually seen him become truly sorrowful or joyful.
It implies heavily that the person beneath all that performative display is either an animal, or a real psychopath.
If no one else spotted it, Anne Boleyn was not childless. She merely disappointed the King by having a surviving daughter, who was one of the longest reigning monarchs-- Queen Elizabeth I.
Thank goodness I found this comment LOL
@@Sanriohhs Same lol
Pleased I wasn't the only one that noticed this!
I think he means the line died out. Queen Elizabeth didn’t have any children.
Women were firmly in the "not people" category at that point in history
This video is bizarre. Dude clearly had and has major psychological problems, and all this video highlights is how the system has failed him and those he's affected, and how the poster is exploiting this, literally finding it hard not to laugh at times. Bravo.
If ya havnt already, there is an 85 part series by a fella genosamuel 2.1. His parents are alot to blame for him not getting help when he was young.
This video just seems like an easy opportunity for this turkeytom dick to be a dick.
He's just piling on after it's already been done.
@@Zedsdead83 Paxil actually put a number of people in jail due to poor reactions.
Also, if anyone is in a similar situation to Megan....block that person. Avoid them, ignore them, do NOT give them any of your sympathy. They WILL take every little thread of sympathy and knit themselves an entire abusive, ignorant story where they will ignore your boundaries and use you. These kinds of people rarely learn. Do not allow them to drain your life of happiness and positivity
but then how would you get them to buy you nazi memorabilia from ebay?
As someone who absolutely was in this sort of situation before, you are absolutely right.
And don't be a nazi loving piece of shit.
megan was a similarly desperate person which is why she kept talking to him 🤷♂️ she wanted a friend but he wanted a girlfriend, and sorry but i have a hard time feeling bad for a nazi who put herself in that situation
There's also going to be people who will say all the right things.
Often these kinds of stories include pushy people who don't even know well enough to pretend to understand right from wrong.
Just don't let that trick you into thinking you can trust what people say alone as a measure of their person. It's not always going to be obvious.
The story of Chris Chan is one that can not be replicated.
Just look up DrachenLord if you remove the Dimension Merge and the molesting your mother they are pretty damn similar
We'll wait and see how the danderson tale progresses and then we decide
moufronn
@@barzelim2654 Truuuue. Daniel Larson is on pace. His lore is crazy.
Even FNAF lore start looking realistic compared to Chris chan documentaries
It's so insane how his art style literally never changed or improved in any way despite drawing out several issues of comics and nsfw through several decades
IKR!
You gotta actually try to improve you know right
@@wyndoellabridge6208 Even so. Drawing differently overtime is something I consider to signify change in a person. For the better or worse, and the fact that Chris hasn't even changed his art style (If I could even call it that) in over 30+ years shows that he has not changed. The terrible behavior that he shown was constant throughout his life and it shows in his "art".
Points for consistency
Actually in a way, they did improve, if you look at the earlier versions of characters, they were stick thin-ish, but later on as Chris life spiralled in to sexual deragement, they became more...shapely... bigger thighs, tits and other....Really, what you would expect from a person like Chris. The art style itself still looks garbage like it looked like before, but there is slightly more in the form of character designs. The sad thing here really is that this less obvious evolution has nothing to do with getting better over years, but more about Chris life spiralling out of control.
So basically a bunch of people completely harassed a severely autistic guy who had no real idea of what objective reality is but wanted to be normal so bad and what he believed would make him normal is a family but no real idea what that means.
Yeah Chris is weird but that is easily understandable and 100% something far beyond his control but everyone going after this kid are all horrible.
Chris Chan is a guy that I've been hearing about a lot of times on the internet but I never understood why he is so infamous. Turns out, it's because his lore is way too complex.
Same
I remember seeing a video in 2010 that my friend showed me. His name never left my head after that. It was like one of those memories where I questioned if I even watched that video. Years later I’m on this video lol.
Same 😮
I, too, was aware of the Name before..
But now ich know the Legend.
Same. I was there for the entire online ordeal but never paid attention even when he got arrested. Honestly it just made me sad to see how deranged he was and other people, shows how dangerous unlimited internet access is to someone with a fragile and broken mental state.
I have an autistic cousin and I realized that both his parents are extremely strict about his social media and internet usage to the point that he barely even know what Netflix is. I was confused at first but seeing how Chris wrongly handle his social media, I am glad my cousin is well taught..
well guarded*
Please don’t generalize us autistics as incompetent… please. We all won’t turn out like Chris Chan 💀 we are literally just chilling.
EDIT: it’s long, a lot of people misinterpreted what i said
OK THIS BLEW UP. im autistic and almost 18 so my experience is obviously going to be different than someone under the age of 13 and is autistic. i agree SOME autistics need supervision, banning us from social media or the internet and having parents being controlling literally us is the opposite of what we need. high/low whatever functioning you are… there’s something very strange to me that OPs uncle and aunt are keeping their child blissfully unaware of the outside world. barely knowing what a TV streaming service is…? is very concerning to me. unless he’s like 7. if he’s 13-17 he should at least know what it is.
REGARDLESS: assuming autistics on social media who get trolled like Chris Chan will end up like Chris Chan feeds into the stigma that we are incompetent babies and need to be taken care of.
Chris Chan became the way she did because she was neglected, raised terribly, and was treated poorly online. this does not excuse her behavior (obviously)- she is a terrible person. unfortunately her fate could’ve been prevented if circumstances were different, but i do not have sympathy or compassion for her 😭
TDLR (i know a lot of you won’t read that dw i wouldn’t want to either):
> being unaware of the world around you as an autistic = BAD
> over exposure to social media when you’re under 13 w/o supervision = ALSO BAD
> autistics online who get trolled ≠ same fate as chris chan
Yeah that’s what my parents did too after I got my diagnosis although I exposed through a lot of it discord I’m glad I’m not anymore now
@@wrennie658dude fr I was like bruh we ain’t all like that lol
@@Venator_X1yeah, kinda insulting tbh
"chris-chan's story begins and ends with women, particularly his mother."
Hilarious and a perfect summary.
what no pussy does to a mf
It's not over.
Fucking horrible and fucking hilarious.
i'm calling Freud
Freud is having a blast in hell
Bro, that "Pokemon type - Autistic" is like one of the best self-roasts Ive ever seen :D
This guy makes me reconsider my life choices, whenever I doubt myself I always ask myself "what would chris do in this situation?" and do the exact opposite
I think that's the best way to see Chris Chan; as a lesson on what not to do and what not to be.
same..
Chris Chan is the quintessential anti-model
Idiot doesn't even follow his own logic. His orange basketball Sonic character should be named Bonic!!!! Not Bionic! Makes me sick!!!
I’m only 1 hour and 30 mins in but one thing I find that a lot of people never mention that his parents were major hoarders and obviously had their own emotional baggage. The hoarding thing really surprised me because they couldn’t even access parts of their house any more, and I’m surprised no one in this family got any professional help before things got really bad.
Honestly, knowing that his parents were hoarders adds so much more info on why Chris was so sheltered, deluded, socially inept, intellectually inept beyond his autism. From what I've seen, people who live in hoarder conditions have some of the worst, most decaying mental health. Hoarding is like the external reflection of someone's inner world. If you live that way, your perception of reality is going to be in the absolute dumps.
@@jobellywelly7025 I can't imagine what hoarders' children go through. I grew up in a cluttered house, not of hoarders, but one way too small, with way too many people, each one an artist or creative, that we were too poor to move out of. In this environment I remember feeling trapped and utterly helpless; I would spend hours cleaning a section of a room, tired beyond belief, just for it to become filthy the next day. I developed depression, anxiety, resentment and anger issues, daily self harm addiction, suicidal and homicidal thoughts, and almost ended my life, before I thankfully turned my life completely over to God and we moved out.
But a hoarders house is about twice as worse as the one I had lived in. Anyone who has to deal with that I really pray for their deliverance; I can only imagine how hard that is.
@@jobellywelly7025 exactly, I couldn’t have summed it up better. I remember hearing about it and going ohh shit that makes a lot of sense
@@lewashiCasual2003 god that sounds awful, I hope you’re doing better now. And yes, I can’t imagine how hard it would be to grow up in major levels of hoarding, since once it’s gets past a certain severity, you can’t fix it yourself
Because it's rural Virginia in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Frankly, I'm amazed Chris got what little help he did, and that was almost certainly due to his proximity to the tiny semi-beacon of civilization called Charlottesville.
I had no idea about Chris/Christine's half-brother Cole, but God damn. That's the perfect prologue for this fucked up story. Thank God Cole espcaped, and who knows. If Cole had stood up to his mother one more time, told local authorities about her abusive practices. Maybe he could've saved Chris, but I guess it was never meant to be.
Saving Chris-chan has been attempted by many, more and better people than Cole or the local authorities ... they all failed miserably. Chris has actively impeded anyone from preventing his own trainwreck from happening time and time again.
@jmwilsoND Damn, I guess this was meant to be. FML, why does this world have to be so cruel.
@MadeInTheAbyss Jesus Christ. He's one of those Discord mods who are like, "So, yeah, I think Loli should be a real thing."
@@MadeInTheAbyss i think the consensus is that he wanted to attract lesbian girls, but i dont doubt anything from chris chan.
Chris
I just wanted to say, Anne Boleyn did have children, she’s Queen Elizabeth’s mother. Queen Elizabeth didn’t have kids tho.
That thing in the beginning about him getting held down by school staff, they may have been practicing “attachment therapy” also known has holding therapy or rage reduction therapy. It’s a very banned form of therapy where multiple people hold the child down by their arms and legs and basically force them to struggle and scream for an extended period of time. Sometimes they would also kneel on their face or chest. It was used on kids with anger issues, reactive attachment styles, and autism. I watched a true crime documentary where some people did this to a child with anger issues and autism and they ended up accidentally smothering her to death. Absolutely horrific.
Not that this excuses his future behavior of course, but I thought this was interesting and probably something that actually happened. A lawsuit would definitely be warranted there.
Homeschooling him was definitely not the answer there though. He needed social interaction. They should have put him in real therapy and switched schools. Homeschooling oftentimes does more harm than good
Probably. There r no heroes in this tale. Just villains 🦹🏼
I’m pretty sure petscop was about this type of therapy
@@sttrowel2169 yea it was something like this i think
Honestly when I heard the story I feel he was just misbehaving and acting like a little turd and they had to do something to keep him from doing whatever he was doing which was probably very disruptive and rotten.
That kind of therapy that you mention would have been done in special schools design for kids with that kind of problem but his parents refused to allow him to go to a school like that and he was a regular public school they're not trying and techniques like that on kids misbehaving and they did it to keep them from continuing to misbehave.
I need to get this off my chest: I had probably the same problems as Chris Chan when I was a child. Like him, I’m also autistic and couldn’t process basic sentences until I was around 12-13 years old. Because of this, I had trouble making friends and turned to TV shows (mainly live-action children’s shows/cartoons) to cope with my loneliness.
At the time, I didn’t know all of it was all fictional and due to my autism, my brain was wired WAY differently than a lot of people. I stated to believe that everything on the tv was real and began based my whole life on what I learned from tv shows. I started to make videos from my iPad with my own drawings and characters based on people I knew irl. As I mentioned before, I didn’t had any friends and due to my autism and little knowledge of friendship, I started to believe that every child that inspired the characters in my videos were my best friends. The more I believed this lie, the more crazier I became. While I did make friends from kids my own age later on, the kids that inspired my characters were I could think about.
Yes, I know that all sounds stupid, pathetic and weird, but at the time, it was the only way for me to cope with my loneliness.
This lasted for almost two years until I started high school. Then, I was super psych to be reunited with all of my “friends.” But when I approached each of them with a friendly hello, I ended up getting the opposite response than what I was looking for. These kids were not the people I expected them to be; they were in fact, very mean, rude, and selfish assholes. Many of these kids glare at me, iced me out, spread lies about me, etc. I gotta tell ya, it was absolutely horrible; not only did I make a complete and total fool of myself, but I wasted the last two years of my life on a false hope.
I was also severely bullied for my disability, even by people whom I thought were my friends. After that, I was very miserable and didn’t make any videos later on. Because of my unhappiness, I started to act out in front of my family and at school and mistreat other people, so much so I was almost expelled!
Luckily, thanks to my loving parents, I ended up seeing a therapist who got me out of the rut I was in and I started to feel a little better about myself.
Later on, I made some new friends (a few whom I still talk to), my grades improved and I made up with my family.
I’m now in my 20s and now studying at one of the best colleges in my state, and it’s classes I aced last semester. I’ve recently found out that the TV shows I worshiped were fake and only created for money and ratings. This really hit me hard and I had trouble processing everything. I’m better now, but I’ve decided not to work in making TV shows anymore; I’ve taken up sewing and fashion, and it’s really been taking off. While I do have friends now, I’m nowhere near as obsessive and clingy as I used to be. I don’t know where my former classmates who bullied or rejected me are now, but if you ask me, I could care less.
I guess the moral of the story is don’t believe what you see on TV because it’s all fictional and only created for ratings and entertainment and don’t believe in false hopes, because chances are you’ll only be disappointed. If Chris Chan got the love and help he needed, he’d probably wouldn’t do all the horrible things he’s done and got arrested. Anyway, thanks for reading and have a great day! 😊
Edit: I’m currently 22 and am just finishing up my semester! I have more friends now that share my interests! I’m also working on going to a fashion camp at CCAD and working on new creations. ❤
Thanks for sharing.
I also was terminally online with undiagnosed autism, my story is similar to yours. I was too into MMORPGs and growing up with Tumblr was awful for myself because I thought the people I've met online were a portrayal of the rest of the world 😭 Life gotten stressful after I moved out to dorm at university, I understand now looking back I was not ready to make that decision. There were too many changes and I should've asked for a reduce course load as accommodation (the Quarterly schedule, Chaos, lack of social skills was a lot to take in).
It was only after I left college on Leave of Absence that I actually was able to get my shit together and pull myself out of Misery. My friends and family were great support base and working a graveyard shift with my co-workers (they are very understanding and kind) that I was able to expand my world more. They helped me with social training that my autism needed. Things are better- better than they were in the past.
I hope things are well for you too. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees their problems the same as Chris.
Theres always hope, and if theres no hope, theres always change. Happiness is fought for. Good luck!
Edit: split into paragraphs for ease of reading.
@@rockmanraiden6627😊
@@FrostySnow1000I fully understand what you’re saying; it took me until this year to realize that all the shows I grew up worshipping were fake and I was just wasting all my time living up to an illusion. It didn’t really help my autism because it only made me act crazier. You seem like a very genuine and caring person who’ll archive great things in life. Just don’t let your shortcomings take a toll on you. ❤
I believe media and social media in the current year could serve as a trap for alot of people. We need good people around us to keep us grounded and to prevent us from venturing into a fantasy world of our own making. Too many individuals out there seek to take advantage of anyone who may have entire worlds inside of them.
The thing is, there was so much time in the early days for people to help him, the warning signs were there.
And he was a child, and very childlike in his early adulthood.
I know that's not an excuse, and vile behaviour of people with autism should never be excused, but I do feel like someone should have done more for him back in the day, and maybe he wouldn't have become the monster he is now.
As a self proclaimed Christorian here are some added notes:
- After his name change Chris regarded the Bear from the mall in high regards, often giving prayers to “Jesus, God, and the Bear”
- In the Nintendo Lawsuit clip you can hear Chris say the same Jay-Z. This is because a trolled had hilariously convinced him the Nintendo’s official lawyer was non other than Jay-Z.
- Bluespike was really hated by most of the other trolls at the time and many trolls tried to tell Chris he was Panda, but Chris simply refused to listen.
- The names Liquid and Solid Chris were created by trolls as a reference to Metal Gear Solid
- In the edited then leaked video of Bob interrupting Chris Bob says his propably second most famous quote of “You uploaded the videos, you unload them!”
- After being arrested Chris-Chan wrote a hilarious letter to a fan detailing how he had read the Quran while in jail. He then compared it to the Simpsons and the Bible to Family Guy, which is a reference to Chris being a huge fan of Family Guy but not liking the Simpsons.
And kacey being taken away in the mall by a guy in the pickle suit. Barely touched on one of Chri's arch nemesis!
Poor grammar, stopped reading
@@dogbog99 Chris-tier autism
@@dogbog99 average American when they realize that not everybody's first language is American
@@shame2189 American hate moment
Chris Chandler’s story is genuinely so sad. I hate seeing pictures of him as a kid because it could have all gone so differently. He could have lived a normal happy life if he had better people in his life helping and guiding him.
"normal happy life" I don't think that was ever going to happen for Chris. Internet or not, he was still an incel creep who doesn't have the brain function to live a decent life.
i agree.. if he had a better family he might not been the way he was
It was the meds. Notice how he immediately went downhill after paxil...
@@Pasta_watcher No he wasnt, youre just being nihilistic over it, he COULD have changed if his mother actually got him help when he was younger
It's a nature vs nurture debate haha
As a guy with Autism, I am disturbed to see what he has become. He shares some similar symptoms such as pacing, avert eye contact when speaking, and obsession with a subject. Chris chan is mentally unstable to a degree that I can’t even begin to discuss. There were so many opportunities to better himself, but unfortunately, he had already lost himself when giving in to his own fantasies. Chris is the example of what I could have been, hadn’t I not gotten special ed or learn to socialize with people.
I feel the exact same about this
Bullet dodged.
I have autism myself, and I replaced a dog missing leg, 3 star cooking skills, martial artist that knows Kempo, can’t drive but can get anywhere in my state, someone that has too look after 2 dogs and pay my parents rent.
Autism isn’t a crippling disability, autism either make you a Chris chan, or the making of a infant god that can change the world. I feed on knowledge, but I still got more, that I need to improve on. I am not perfect but I have to keep improving or I will be suffer from lacking knowledge.
@@MKTyphon Lmao you are not an infant god brobro
@@donutbevil9669 what do you mean
When your an hour in and it’s only 2009 😳
Absolutely stunned at how long Megan stayed in this story. Really hope she ended up ok
she is married has an etsy store for cute felt animals that she makes.
@@j.2512 Think we could get that link?
She had the patience of a saint, to be honest.
She also showed up in 2018 and was gunna be part of a student film about chris chan but when it was revealed that the makers weren't doing a good job and were asking for way to much money she reconsidered tho there is a sound bite of her from the deleted trailer
he made her gifts...
The pre internet era of Chris is the golden era people don’t realize. While in high school, he was clearly thinner, more social, and able to grow and change, but then it went down hill and Sonichu gained control of him
Paxil
The medallion is to him what the green goblin mask is to Norman Osborn
I just want to say that Chris Chan is quite literally a PRIME example of digital footprint. With how basically their WHOLE LIFE and Infamy is available for the world to read and witness. It is incredibly insane to be able to watch a video as long as this simply because of the footprint they have left behind.
If i got a message from my future self that said I would have a 3 hour documentary on me .I'd just end my life, only bad things need that long to explain.
@@justintrouble8 I like looking at this documentary in a way to think more about what I post on the internet. While you’re right about a documentary this long only came out of them being a very bad person. But I think another thing to gain from it is to really think about what we as people decide to post on the internet. Because this stuff is going to follow Chris-Chan FOREVER. They can’t escape it. (Which is a good thing because they’re a terrible person).
You think this is insane ? theres a so-far 50~ hour docu on youtube covering a lot more
this why be quiet move a lot talk in memes
I guess but that's only because he is constantly showing his face and saying his full name and what schools he goes too. Most people that say wild stuff on the internet are completely anonymous and nothing will happen to them. I find the whole "DiGiTaL fOoTpRiNt YaLl" thing so stupid because unless if you give away personal information about yourself and say and do some horrible stuff, no college or job employer is gonna give a shit about what you say online.
Watching this makes me feel like Matthew McConaughey in interstellar watching the past through a black hole, and screaming "NO NO NO" before something happens
Chris chan serves as a constant reminder to me to get out and touch grass, even when I feel safest at home with my cat and the internet. Having real interactions with real people is so important to maintaining your mental health and grasp on reality
Eh debatable. Even going to the grocery store is good for you, no need for close connections especially if you are crazy like him
@@kennypowers1945close connections are how you prevent that level of crazy.
[worried laughter]
@@arsvivendi2636to bad I ain’t got anyone but my family 😢😢
tthats BS. if you are introvert or you have sociel anxiety you are better off with not having anyone around and you still are sane. you're implying that all who don't want contact to "real " people and rather play games are madmen .
can’t believe we’ve just been blessed with a whole ass documentary. thank you Tom
moufronn
You clearly haven't watched Chris Chan: A Comprehensive History
I feel like this is going to be one of those videos where you can't describe anyone involved as "blessed".
Thank you Turkish Tomothy
Was waiting for this for a while...will watch all night
What made him this way?
What is the attraction?
What keeps us fascinated?
This is the story of Chris Chan.
the answer to all of those is autism
In the internet system, Chris Chan based offenses are considered especially heinous. These are their stories.
Classic
Geno samuel gang
@@themeowman1459 Wassup my fellow christorian. Exploring another tomb of chris lore are we?
I’M SORRY BUT AUTISTIC RIZZ?!?! THATS THE FUNNIEST SHIT I’VE EVER HEARD
(JESUS CHRIST DID HE JUST SAY HE SWEARS ON HIS AUTISM?!?? WHY?!?!?!?!?!)
@@RandomLog423seems like its only ipad kids / redditors / skibbidi toilet kids know about chris chan
Uh, what? I don’t fit into any of those categories but I still know about him. (If that comment wasn’t meant to be passive aggressive then I’m sorry. I’m autistic myself and have trouble reading intent at the best of times) Also I was typing that as I watched the video, hence the all capitals. I was fucking shitting myself laughing at the time
It's always sad to revisit this story. By no means was Chris perfect in the beginning, but throughout the course of this saga you see an awkward, mentally handicapped man slowly degrade into a complete scumbag.
I'd call it tragic but really it's its own category at this point.
in the good timeline Chris stayed as an homophobe
Shut up be quiet bigot
Yeah, I agree. Clearly his parents never cared enough to intervene with his more than strange behaviours when they were in their earlier stages. I ponder about how Chris’ sanity fared in an environment like his sometimes.
Degrade? He was doomed being raised by those two fools. He was degraded when he became known in 2007.
@@j.2512I feel like the good timeline is Chris got off the internet and the story ended after he went to Uvalde.
The amount of foreshadowing in this guy's life is absolutely insane
Hindsight truly is 20/20
Its a greek tragedy
It's a consequence of the Dimensional Merge jiggling the universe which convinced God to do the thug shaker, messing up spacetime so badly that it gave Chris Chan's life foreshadowing
What he did to hes mom was forshadowed 12 years ago.
He talked about having a wet dream of hes mom.
And if you wanna get technically this may have been forshadowed almost 2 decades ago, as Chris took hes mom to the prom
The writers don't know what subtly means :v
@@Mewdo45 the writers of this story literally only used foreshadowing tools and THATS IT😂
I take my hat off to you sir. I’m emotionally drained just watching. Can’t imagine researching and scripting a story like this.
im in shock trying to gather my mind looking at these comments lmao
The time tom took to make this documentary! 🥳 appreciated
Research isn't hard at all, since it's all on the cwcwiki
@@GeneratedPerson
Dat barbussy tho
to the 10 million other people who watched this, its my honor to be traumatized with yall and tom
Not really truamatizing, just a overated boring story. You can pretty much overplay any persons story like this. Seems like only ipad kids and people that think theyre quirky keep track of this
@biggiebeats1490 Cry about it.
“Some people think we should hide the cruel nature of the world from young people, particularly those with disabilities, and the story of Chris Chan is a great example of why we _shouldn’t._ Children all grow up and have to go out into the world and deal with its unfairness, and we need to give them the tools they need to do that. Any illusion we give them is going to be broken eventually, and it will make it that much harder to face the music when they inevitably have to.”
-Zephyr the 7th
I'm sorry, what? Fake deep quote. Bullying Chris for years upon years was not an effective tool in any sense. It was simply cruel, no benefits. All it did was make it worse. You know what else is just as effective? Kindness, compassion and real mental help, of which he received too little, and instead got too much cruelty. I hope they put him in a mental health rehabilitation center where he can get real help.
I mean, the moment a person loses his desire to believe things will have a happy ending they lose most of the reason most people keep going and try to be happy. Sometimes is better to have faith in a better future then just realizing nothing will actually improve.
@@jobellywelly7025 I think you're misunderstanding the quote.
It's not saying young people should be abused, because the world is horrible. It's saying young people should be taught that there are abusers out there and how to avoid them. If they don't, they will learn what abuse is by being abused.
@Spencer Thanks for clarifying that. I see now that I did misunderstand the quote. I'm glad this is what it really means instead, and I definitely agree.
I don't know the quote but i know zephyr the 7th ... i remember seeing his above 2 hour long video of Elliot Rodger's journal ...
A troll that spends hours and hours catfishing an autistic man trying to take the moral high ground and telling them that they’re wasting they’re time playing video games is the epitome of the most mirroring thing I’ve ever seen
Right? Seems like that troll lack self-awaremess😂
@@philip_simost do
This whole thing is pretty tragic honestly. Chris is clearly not the best person. But people really abused the shit out of a mentally sick person as well. It was hard to listen to this story and felt very cruel from both Chris actions and the trolls that abused him constantly.
I feel esp bad for those women tho. Good god.
"their"
@@philip_siHeya Ian Brandon Anderson no need to be telling people they're "wasting time" for playing video games or trying to convince someone to change.
Like many on here commenting, I also have high functioning Autism and there are parts in this documentary that are tough to watch. Somehow, I'm able to hold down a job and relationship, but there are days when I just find it so difficult to mentally process everything going on. I thankfully don't have the deviant predilections Chris has, but so much of his growing up and dysfunctional view of love and romance were issues i struggled with as a teenager and young adult. I also had zero counseling growing up, which would've made a considerable difference, I believe, but my subconscious efforts at masking the symptoms fooled most of those around me until I was older. If you suspect you are on the spectrum but have never been diagnosed or been to counseling, I can't recommend it highly enough.
High functioning autist is a completely meaningless label. Total meme
Please never have children.
I'm also autistic and i have a hard time listening to how people troll him. They do it because he is autistic and they find him weird. I still see people do that to autistic people today. Its upsetting. But i do think Chris' mom made chris worse. Excusing bad behaviour throughout chris' life. She could've made sure chris came out mostly functioning but chose to excuse it instead which made it worse. Chris never learned to see their wrongs
I'm 27, just last year it was brought to my attention that I could be high functioning with ADHD. I've been diagnosed with anxiety and depression (my doctor unofficially diagnosed Manic Bipolar at 20, at said point therapy and psychiatrist wasn't an option). I recently got good insurance, like good enough to go to specialist.
I know I am neurodivergent; which one or how many is the real question. Like one note you hit on relationship; I'm not really good or bad like I have a few close friends had them for long periods at this point but I have issues maintaining romantic relationships. Partly due to trauma, the other part because of the neurodivergence and the communication issues that come with being neurodivergent. I've gotten use to calling myself neurodivergent since I'm likely (1,2,or all) autistic, ADHD, CPTSD; all which fall under the umbrella of neurodivergence.
(Dark humor: I joke that either I was born this way, or years of trauma created the neurodivergence. But accurate given the three likely diagnosis)
It's for this reason I found Chris' case both interesting and unnerving, as it hits a little close at times. So I empathize with your comment 110%.
I am autistic and watching this video was painful. I understand that Chris has done a lot of bad things and isn't a good person but I feel like Tom is unnecessary cruel to him, just like the trolls. This entire situation isn't funny or insane or wtf - it is just extremely sad. Chris clearly has mental problems that needed to be addressed years ago. And all the people who abuse him are just as bad. I just feel deeply distressed by the entire story and the video.
0:27 while rewatching this video i realized HOW ACTUALLY DIABOLICAL THIS IS
Am i really gonna sit here for 3 hours to watch a Chris Chan documentary? Of course i am
moufronn
Longet documentary in one sitting I watched on RUclips was 6 hour long😂
Geno Samunel is doing a whole documentary he is now on part 76 i think
@@SgtTankDempsey yep its bound to get more and more closer to… The Day
this is the second one i’m gonna watch from start to finish 😂
I will admit I'm surprised that you didn't go into the fact that Bob paid those girls to be Chris' friends because he believed his son was incapable of making friends on his own
Fuck man, I didn't know that. That's pretty sad. Pathetic, but still sad.
@@Turner_Strait jesus me either. idk about you though but something didn’t feel right about his gal pals anyway lmao.
3 hours is just not enough time to get all the facts right. Props for trying though.
@@SweetMeatTM There was a girl that would wait for Chris at the bus stop that Bob would pay to interact with his son going so far to give Chris $20 to give to her and the boy was completely unaware. In high school Bob continued to pay girls to be Chris' friends and later on in life one of the girls told Chris "we were never really your friends. Your dad was paying us to be around you and we pitied you" Chris not wanting to believe it went to ask his mom who confirmed that it was true
Holy shit that's brutal
3 hours ? Impressive, you were able to cover 7% of the madness that is Chris Chan
7% is being generous :P. This is just one toenail clipping worth of the insanity that is Chris Chan....
this is a job only fit for genoa
more like 0.07 %
Tom had to use nearly .25% of his power to cover Chris Chan
3 hours had to brake up watching this over the span of 9 hours but definitely calling the Chris chan “documentary’s” to a end for the next long while.
This made me wanna cry. This man-child was failed by his parents, his school (kinda) and his psychiatrists. It's like they dropped a man with dementia in the middle of leicester square. There are people worse off than him with autism who aren't nearly as damaged. My own brother works a job, has a girlfriend, and avoids arguements and minds his own business, when he started on the same line as Chris. depressing...
As someone with autism and a video game addiction... this is pretty uncomfortable to watch. It makes me want to stop playing games outright and focus more on fulfilling my personal life goals out of sheer panic that I could be/could've been Chris Chan.
Even if you try to be like him you will turn out better than Chris Chan
Addiction with anything can lead you down a dark path, but there were many other things there going against him. When I was I was a kid I was big into sonic and had many friends that enjoyed sonic and they first told me about Chris Chan. Many people on the internet were dedicated to destroying his life at that and continue on wards. I don’t think he did anything bad at that time, he was just cringy and everyone wanted blood.
You don’t have to worry about becoming like him. I’ve met many success people with autism.
Dont worry, you did not become like him
you are putting your professional goals in front of Video Games in terms of Priorities
and there are MANY Autistic People who PROVED that Autistim is just the term for being EVER SO slightly more unique than average
I don't think it's video games. Just a huge lack of concern for anything else. I love video games. It's really the only thing I enjoy doing. But I still have a full time job and can be responsible.
The fact that you at least have the awareness of your issues makes you leagues better than Chris-chan
EVERYONE failed Chris. He failed himself. His family failed him. The internet failed him. The system failed him. Absolutely incredible just how...I can't even put it into words.
It's a story with no heroes. With no good guys. Only villains, monsters, and abusers.
@@ashumionline7632except for Megan and Vivian they were pretty cool.
@@shinyy8918 Megan is the only person I'd say is innocent. Vivian tried, sure, but they still lead Chris on and were a troll at the end of the day
@@ashumionline7632 no one lead him on, they thought they saw something good in him and they were very wrong.
@@ashumionline7632 if you probe into this content for long enough, you'd see that Megan is no saint herself. She took advantage of Chris financially while he bought her toys and she only bailed when it was too much for her.
It's kinda scary how close I could've been another Chris-Chan. I thankfully went through early intervention therapy for my autism, which has helped immensely.
Yeah same here. Didn't do any intervention therapy stuff, just had buddies who cared enough for me to call me out on whatever dumb sh1t I was doing.
I'm kinda glad I actually didn't go through any intervention therapy, probably would have inflated my ego even more...especially in my youth where I literally thought there was a growing conspiracy against me.
24/7 online bullying can really change a person
@@CrayonConoisseur 24/7 Online anything can ruin a person.
Intervention therapy? What's that?
Autism doesn’t make you into a horrible person, but constant bullying does
This man seems more like a manifestation of late 2000s early 2010s internet humor then a human.
Dude started as a tragic comedy and went full horror and tragedy
The joker💀
Love how you went into more detail with Barb. Had no idea she almost killed Cole on accident. Irresponsible mother. Although she never deserved what Chris did to her.
To preface, there's no excuse for incestuous activity with your demented mother, but it should still be noted that Chris described many innappropriate interactions that Barb demanded Chris do such as sleeping and cuddling in her bed after his father passed (there were others as well). And Barb is 99% responsible for the neglect and inappropriate upraising that prevented Chris from receiving adequate attention for his mental issues. All I'm saying is that Chris is a horrible person ... but so is Barb.
She was never a victim never forget that. it's easy to feel sorry for an elderly person yet never know the destruction they've left behind them.
she didn't deserve it but it was still in big part her fault
I feel about as much sympathy for her as I did for Beatrice horseman ✋😂
@@jmwilsoND Agreed. I'm tried of people absolving her of responsibility just because she ended up a victim. She was a victim of her OWN machinations. Now, before braindead idiots say 'they're not absolving her of responsibility' and just 'she didn't deserve it', nah. She absolutely did. She made, groomed and raised a monster. Dementia or no dementia, she never once had to pay for being a terrible mother her entire life. What Chris did to her was nothing more than poetic. They are both terrible individuals, and victims of each other. Both are nutcases, and both deserve everything that came to them.
Honestly, if parents keep ignoring their children and let them be raised by Internet and Ipads, we will probably get many more Chris-Chans.
He was basically neglected his whole life.
Even after all that happened I can't help but think it would have been at least partially avoidable if the parents actually did something.
It could have fully been avoided if Chris had the proper care and support when he was young.
@@stoneyJutsu Exactly, he was destroyed by his parents' incompetence and utter ignorance.
The fact that he could have been a completely different person is genuinely heartbreaking.
@@abductedbyfairieshow internet savvy are they supposed to be?
@tarfielarchelone2674 it doesn't require a degree to understand that if you bring a kid to the world you have to pay attention to it until they're 18. In his case he proved multiple times to be untrustworthy, yet they kept ignoring the issue.
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I feel like the real villains of this story are the trolls bullying an obviously mentally ill guy..
They quite literally turned an entire human life into their own sadistic joke. You get one shot at life and his was completely hijacked and ruined all to get a few laughs.
I’ve worked with so many different dementia patients. They are so vulnerable and terrified. They go in and out of the reality that they just experienced the worst of situations, they know that for a while they were incapable of doing anything independently. They know they lost the ability to remember the name of their loved ones. One of the patients was speaking to me about how he missed his dog so dearly, i idiotically asked what the dog looked like. As he was in his own moment remembering his best mf friend who he loves so much, I had gotten the response “ I don’t remember “.
they just want to die in peace before their kids had to be “burdened” with their deaths. The kids are slowly getting used to being sad about their parents, the world has become so full of hell. And you’ll be in and out until you can’t even eat anymore.
To go through that and have your scary creepy son rape you repeatedly is so hard to deal with.
this comment actually is pretty hard.
It makes me thnk back ot my own pets in the past, and do I remember what they look like?
*i friggin dont* i'd have to see them to remember them 100%and thats kinda sad.
i wonder though, why i can still feel the memory of them being with me in life , even if i cannot recreate their image in my mind?
the feeling of loving my pets will be with me forever, even if i might not even remember their names
@@GooFly-v3jthat's A very nice way to think about it. Strangely heartwarming
@@GooFly-v3j I wonder if you might have aphantasia.
Damn Tom, been killing it with the content lately and now we're blessed with a full 3 hour documentary. Strapping in for this one, keep up the great work.
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Megan deserves so much better. Kind girl who wanted to just be friends and felt empathy.
Megan is a nazi
Yeah it’s a shame she had to deal with a fucken moron. a stubborn one at that
Yep Chris may be Autistic, but he knew what he was doing. I have very little sympathy for him. if any at all.
@@CollaateraL People think autistic people are 100% unaware. I have met so many autistic people online that are just vicious, manipulative and cruel and when called out I have had more than one say " Who's gonna believe you? You're just some ableist ass that survived cancer and I have Autism, so they'll just think you're being a jerk to me while I'm in the right to attack you because how dare you insult me, such an easy target? " - I have met at least three that are fully aware of it and just scum that coast through life on the excuse " I'm autistic, give me money and food. "
Fr, like knowing what she had been through my heart literally broke for her :(
Hold on… the dude believed in Santa Claus till he was in his late 20’s? That is mind blowing 🤯
I feel like Chris's story would've just been that of a mentally ill adult and his neglectful mother wreaking havoc on a video game store owner for a decade had he never gone online. Some of the lengths those trolls went to get a rise out of him are outright sinister. The dude clearly had problems yet they antagonized and harrassed him for years.
Especially that kid. I don't understand how he could've been so evil that the other trolls said he was going too far AT 13 YEARS OLD
Children are generally all sociopaths until they get it bullied or disciplined out of them well before they even approach double-digits in age. @@xrphoenix7194 That particular troll is just a particularly dumb child that didn't have the lesson sink in until way way too late.
@@ilovestitchwhat happened to the kid?
It does make you wonder what his life would have looked like if he never jumped onto the early internet. He didn't have a chance in hell back in the 2000s internet.
@@googleisevil8958 the internet today is way worse than it was years ago
Chris Chan is the physical embodiment of a car crash. It’s sad, horrifying, and messy but you can’t look away. He is an incredible specimen, the likes of which we will never see again. It’s hard to articulate how much of a fantastic monster Chris is
He's a semi-truck jackknifing on a highway during a winter storm after totalling a schoolbus full of special needs children causing another semi-truck transporting countless organ transplants to flip, losing power and spoiling all organs and when we all thought it was over another semi-truck ran into and killed all first responders causing a similar course of events multiple times over... and of course you can't help but stop and watch
@@jmwilsoND This! ALL of this!
I can't stand Chris Chan. I hate just about everything about him and he is actually a good example of the communities he's associated with.
"little did poor Megan know that the power of the chaos emeralds rendered Chris impervious to reality checks of any nature." 5 star writing and delivery my friend.
Well, at least reality checks from her. Maybe people like Miss vivian can get through to him
@@SebasTian58323Vivian, if she is real, sounds like someone EVERYONE needs in their lifes
Anne Boleyn certainly did have a child… one of the most loved rulers ever, Queen Elizabeth II
Ik, I was like where’d he get that fact lol
I kept going back and forth from "wow, poor Chris" to "wow, Chris is awful." This whole video is second hand embarrassment and like, sympathetic whiplash.
Seriously? You're using 'like' in written form... Chris did nothing compared to this
It’s honestly just a tragic yet harrowing situation all around. No winners, just this mess.
@@A5H_01For real dude. I will say though in hindsight, I’m kind of astounded at the lack of self awareness and inability to learn even just by trial and error. I was partially raised by an uncle I have who is on the spectrum & yea he’s a little awkward, but he’s able to figure people out by observation & he’s never lost a job. He did a great job raising me even if we did mostly just watch Predator & Godzilla movies and play dodgeball
@@optiondeathstudiosYour uncle sounds awesome. Unfortunately autism never affects people the same. It’s such a large spectrum with minute differences.
@@optiondeathstudios I’m actually on the spectrum too, was very uplifting to hear about your uncle. He sounds like he’s worth his weight in gold.