(said this in the chat, but I'll put it here too) My head-canon is that Dragons are the departed, ascended spirits of Dinosaurs. Dragon is to Dino, as Angel is to Human.
Gotta say Dragons are a true obsession of mine... it is why I am so fascinated by Large birds and All kinds of Bat. i am very excited to experience your point of view on it and to see how or if that view has any adjustments over time during the series.
Yesssss!!!! I had no idea this was coming. But I'm fully here for an in depth analysis of a dragon's flight, ecological role, and evolutionary position. And then devolving into smash or pass.
@MusingMoss Yes! I don't have full access to my collected resources right now, but I did a quick poke around for at least some starting places! To be candid, I am coming at this as a Pagan tied to more "Western" (blech I don't like that dichotomy) traditions. My ability to identify good or accurate resources around "Eastern" traditions is thus limited, but I am going to include some things that would be where I would start if I were digging deeper into that side of research. A book that-while it definitely has occasional biases of 1990's Wicca New Age Woo-does cite a lot of good academic resources and breaks a lot of these concepts down and highlights parallels and connections in a thorough and accessible way, is Journey of the Bard by Yvonne Owens. Claude Lecouteux is a great academic writer on pagan/esoteric spirituality and at a quick glance this book seems like it would be the most relevant to dragon lore: www.goodreads.com/book/show/22748308-demons-and-spirits-of-the-land Some good-looking starting-point articles: muse.jhu.edu/article/867059/summary#:~:text=Magic%2C%20Ritual%2C%20and%20Witchcraft&text=Many%20early%20modern%20sources%20from,it%20stole%20from%20somebody%20else. brookes-culturalthinking.blogspot.com/2017/02/dragons-and-magical-worldview-of-pre.html?m=1 scholars.fhsu.edu/theses/3210/ cherrycache.org/2021/05/16/alchemy-and-more/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20ancient,realised%3B%20the%20dragon%20is%20asleep. This one connects to a lot of the concepts that parallel "Eastern" and "Western" viewpoints on dragon spiritual symbolism in the Journey of the Bard from a practitioner on the "Eastern" side commenting on Carl Jung's "Western" interpretation of concepts like the "Kundalini" symbolism: medium.com/@VerseEveryDay/the-psychology-of-kundalini-yoga-by-carl-g-jung-8aded88c965a Sorry if this is a lot! I can also e-mail or something if you wanna chat more!
@MusingMoss @MusingMoss Yes! I don't have full access to my collected resources right now, but I did a quick poke around for at least some starting places! To be candid, I am coming at this as a Pagan tied to more "Western" (blech I don't like that dichotomy) traditions. My ability to identify good or accurate resources around "Eastern" traditions is thus limited, but I am going to include some things that would be where I would start if I were digging deeper into that side of research. A book that-while it definitely has occasional biases of 1990's Wicca New Age Woo-does cite a lot of good academic resources and breaks a lot of these concepts down and highlights parallels and connections in a thorough and accessible way, is Journey of the Bard by Yvonne Owens. Claude Lecouteux is a great academic writer on pagan/esoteric spirituality and at a quick glance this book seems like it would be the most relevant to dragon lore: www.goodreads.com/book/show/22748308-demons-and-spirits-of-the-land Some good-looking starting-point articles: muse.jhu.edu/article/867059/summary#:~:text=Magic%2C%20Ritual%2C%20and%20Witchcraft&text=Many%20early%20modern%20sources%20from,it%20stole%20from%20somebody%20else. brookes-culturalthinking.blogspot.com/2017/02/dragons-and-magical-worldview-of-pre.html?m=1 scholars.fhsu.edu/theses/3210/ cherrycache.org/2021/05/16/alchemy-and-more/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20ancient,realised%3B%20the%20dragon%20is%20asleep. This one connects to a lot of the concepts that parallel "Eastern" and "Western" viewpoints on dragon spiritual symbolism in the Journey of the Bard from a practitioner on the "Eastern" side commenting on Carl Jung's "Western" interpretation of concepts like the "Kundalini" symbolism: medium.com/@VerseEveryDay/the-psychology-of-kundalini-yoga-by-carl-g-jung-8aded88c965a Sorry if this is a lot! I can also e-mail or something if you wanna chat more!
@MusingMoss Yes! I don't have full access to my collected resources right now, but I did a quick poke around for at least some starting places! To be candid, I am coming at this as a Pagan tied to more "Western" (blech I don't like that dichotomy) traditions. My ability to identify good or accurate resources around "Eastern" traditions is thus limited, but I am going to include some things that would be where I would start if I were digging deeper into that side of research. A book that-while it definitely has occasional biases of 1990's Wicca New Age Woo-does cite a lot of good academic resources and breaks a lot of these concepts down and highlights parallels and connections in a thorough and accessible way, is Journey of the Bard by Yvonne Owens. Claude Lecouteux is a great academic writer on pagan/esoteric spirituality and at a quick glance this book seems like it would be the most relevant to dragon lore: www.goodreads.com/book/show/22748308-demons-and-spirits-of-the-land Some good-looking starting-point articles: muse.jhu.edu/article/867059/summary#:~:text=Magic%2C%20Ritual%2C%20and%20Witchcraft&text=Many%20early%20modern%20sources%20from,it%20stole%20from%20somebody%20else. brookes-culturalthinking.blogspot.com/2017/02/dragons-and-magical-worldview-of-pre.html?m=1 scholars.fhsu.edu/theses/3210/ cherrycache.org/2021/05/16/alchemy-and-more/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20ancient,realised%3B%20the%20dragon%20is%20asleep. This one connects to a lot of the concepts that parallel "Eastern" and "Western" viewpoints on dragon spiritual symbolism in the Journey of the Bard from a practitioner on the "Eastern" side commenting on Carl Jung's "Western" interpretation of concepts like the "Kundalini" symbolism: medium.com/@VerseEveryDay/the-psychology-of-kundalini-yoga-by-carl-g-jung-8aded88c965a Sorry if this is a lot! I can also e-mail or something if you wanna chat
@MusingMoss Yes! I don't have full access to my collected resources right now, but I did a quick poke around for at least some starting places! To be candid, I am coming at this as a Pagan tied to more "Western" (blech I don't like that dichotomy) traditions. My ability to identify good or accurate resources around "Eastern" traditions is thus limited, but I am going to include some things that would be where I would start if I were digging deeper into that side of research. A book that-while it definitely has occasional biases of 1990's Wicca New Age Woo-does cite a lot of good academic resources and breaks a lot of these concepts down and highlights parallels and connections in a thorough and accessible way, is Journey of the Bard by Yvonne Owens. Claude Lecouteux is a great academic writer on pagan/esoteric spirituality and at a quick glance this book seems like it would be the most relevant to dragon lore: www.goodreads.com/book/show/22748308-demons-and-spirits-of-the-land Some good-looking starting-point articles: muse.jhu.edu/article/867059/summary#:~:text=Magic%2C%20Ritual%2C%20and%20Witchcraft&text=Many%20early%20modern%20sources%20from,it%20stole%20from%20somebody%20else. brookes-culturalthinking.blogspot.com/2017/02/dragons-and-magical-worldview-of-pre.html?m=1 scholars.fhsu.edu/theses/3210/ cherrycache.org/2021/05/16/alchemy-and-more/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20ancient,realised%3B%20the%20dragon%20is%20asleep. This one connects to a lot of the concepts that parallel "Eastern" and "Western" viewpoints on dragon spiritual symbolism in the Journey of the Bard from a practitioner on the "Eastern" side commenting on Carl Jung's "Western" interpretation of concepts like the "Kundalini" symbolism: medium.com/@VerseEveryDay/the-psychology-of-kundalini-yoga-by-carl-g-jung-8aded88c965a Sorry if this is a lot! I can also e-mail or something if you wanna chat more!
Can't wait to dig into some dragons!!! I'd definitely be curious to see, perhaps in a spin-off series, looking at more fringe dragons throughout human mythology like Sumerian, Babylonian, Mayan, Chinese and even the dragons in various African cultures.
The first guy just killed a defenseless lizard. That's barely a dragon. It's not a termagent a cockatrice, not even a wyvern. And yes, I agree that dragons can also be extraterrestrial, as in the case for Avatars dragons
I think that might be DND bullshit but if we're being real mythology is a global phenomenon and there might be a legit wyvern with scorpion tail variation out there
I think you are thinking of a Manticore usually if it is actually a scorpion tail. Bat Wings, lions face and front feet, Scaled back legs and rump with Scorpion tail. there are a lot of Dragons with a venomous Tip on their tail in various literature I just have never encountered a Scorpion Tailed Dragon Personally but also I don't play D&D much or hardly at all so don't know the Monster Manual at all
Hello Musing Moss(Luxander) a question for you just from the political side of things. I have watched quite a few of your videos and one I remember well the most was your political compass video where you took the political compass test/quiz and you ended up in the libertarian left quadrant. Now based of your content in general it seems to me you are a leftist both economically and socially but looking at the recent election results in America it seems to me a government which I think is a auth-right gov is soon to be in charge of America. Now if you had to decide between an alliance with people on the libertarian right of the political compass or the people on the authoritarian left of the compass which would alliance with?
Honestly I don't know a lot about auth left politics, so given my limited knowledge and my own stances I feel like I'd be more comfortable with libertarian right, but it depends on what kind of "right" you know? Mostly I'm not sure about building coalition right now
As an aro/ace person who was OBSESSED with dragons growing up I am so excited for these videos!
Hell yeah. Another aroace spectrum individual who love dragons.
(said this in the chat, but I'll put it here too)
My head-canon is that Dragons are the departed, ascended spirits of Dinosaurs.
Dragon is to Dino, as Angel is to Human.
RUclips didn't show this video to me, i literally went: What happened to Musing Moss and had to go looking.
Would love to see more of this 🧜♂️✨🌟
This is a fantastic topic, in every sense… looking forward to the series! Also, the backdrop is great. I love how much green is filling the frame.
I love dragons and dragon lore. Love that your making content like this ❤
Moss musing about the most important question about dragons.
Gotta say Dragons are a true obsession of mine... it is why I am so fascinated by Large birds and All kinds of Bat. i am very excited to experience your point of view on it and to see how or if that view has any adjustments over time during the series.
I want it known now that Dragon from Shrek is an obvious smash
Yesssss!!!! I had no idea this was coming. But I'm fully here for an in depth analysis of a dragon's flight, ecological role, and evolutionary position. And then devolving into smash or pass.
This is fuun 🌟✨🦄
I'm psyched for this! I hope you can get into like Spiritual symbolism as well as the narrative symbolism you went over here!
oooo any suggestions for reading I could do on this? I'm not a very spiritual person so I'm kind of out of my element with that subject
@MusingMoss
Yes! I don't have full access to my collected resources right now, but I did a quick poke around for at least some starting places!
To be candid, I am coming at this as a Pagan tied to more "Western" (blech I don't like that dichotomy) traditions. My ability to identify good or accurate resources around "Eastern" traditions is thus limited, but I am going to include some things that would be where I would start if I were digging deeper into that side of research.
A book that-while it definitely has occasional biases of 1990's Wicca New Age Woo-does cite a lot of good academic resources and breaks a lot of these concepts down and highlights parallels and connections in a thorough and accessible way, is Journey of the Bard by Yvonne Owens.
Claude Lecouteux is a great academic writer on pagan/esoteric spirituality and at a quick glance this book seems like it would be the most relevant to dragon lore: www.goodreads.com/book/show/22748308-demons-and-spirits-of-the-land
Some good-looking starting-point articles:
muse.jhu.edu/article/867059/summary#:~:text=Magic%2C%20Ritual%2C%20and%20Witchcraft&text=Many%20early%20modern%20sources%20from,it%20stole%20from%20somebody%20else.
brookes-culturalthinking.blogspot.com/2017/02/dragons-and-magical-worldview-of-pre.html?m=1
scholars.fhsu.edu/theses/3210/
cherrycache.org/2021/05/16/alchemy-and-more/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20ancient,realised%3B%20the%20dragon%20is%20asleep.
This one connects to a lot of the concepts that parallel "Eastern" and "Western" viewpoints on dragon spiritual symbolism in the Journey of the Bard from a practitioner on the "Eastern" side commenting on Carl Jung's "Western" interpretation of concepts like the "Kundalini" symbolism:
medium.com/@VerseEveryDay/the-psychology-of-kundalini-yoga-by-carl-g-jung-8aded88c965a
Sorry if this is a lot! I can also e-mail or something if you wanna chat more!
@MusingMoss @MusingMoss
Yes! I don't have full access to my collected resources right now, but I did a quick poke around for at least some starting places!
To be candid, I am coming at this as a Pagan tied to more "Western" (blech I don't like that dichotomy) traditions. My ability to identify good or accurate resources around "Eastern" traditions is thus limited, but I am going to include some things that would be where I would start if I were digging deeper into that side of research.
A book that-while it definitely has occasional biases of 1990's Wicca New Age Woo-does cite a lot of good academic resources and breaks a lot of these concepts down and highlights parallels and connections in a thorough and accessible way, is Journey of the Bard by Yvonne Owens.
Claude Lecouteux is a great academic writer on pagan/esoteric spirituality and at a quick glance this book seems like it would be the most relevant to dragon lore: www.goodreads.com/book/show/22748308-demons-and-spirits-of-the-land
Some good-looking starting-point articles:
muse.jhu.edu/article/867059/summary#:~:text=Magic%2C%20Ritual%2C%20and%20Witchcraft&text=Many%20early%20modern%20sources%20from,it%20stole%20from%20somebody%20else.
brookes-culturalthinking.blogspot.com/2017/02/dragons-and-magical-worldview-of-pre.html?m=1
scholars.fhsu.edu/theses/3210/
cherrycache.org/2021/05/16/alchemy-and-more/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20ancient,realised%3B%20the%20dragon%20is%20asleep.
This one connects to a lot of the concepts that parallel "Eastern" and "Western" viewpoints on dragon spiritual symbolism in the Journey of the Bard from a practitioner on the "Eastern" side commenting on Carl Jung's "Western" interpretation of concepts like the "Kundalini" symbolism:
medium.com/@VerseEveryDay/the-psychology-of-kundalini-yoga-by-carl-g-jung-8aded88c965a
Sorry if this is a lot! I can also e-mail or something if you wanna chat more!
@MusingMoss
Yes! I don't have full access to my collected resources right now, but I did a quick poke around for at least some starting places!
To be candid, I am coming at this as a Pagan tied to more "Western" (blech I don't like that dichotomy) traditions. My ability to identify good or accurate resources around "Eastern" traditions is thus limited, but I am going to include some things that would be where I would start if I were digging deeper into that side of research.
A book that-while it definitely has occasional biases of 1990's Wicca New Age Woo-does cite a lot of good academic resources and breaks a lot of these concepts down and highlights parallels and connections in a thorough and accessible way, is Journey of the Bard by Yvonne Owens.
Claude Lecouteux is a great academic writer on pagan/esoteric spirituality and at a quick glance this book seems like it would be the most relevant to dragon lore: www.goodreads.com/book/show/22748308-demons-and-spirits-of-the-land
Some good-looking starting-point articles:
muse.jhu.edu/article/867059/summary#:~:text=Magic%2C%20Ritual%2C%20and%20Witchcraft&text=Many%20early%20modern%20sources%20from,it%20stole%20from%20somebody%20else.
brookes-culturalthinking.blogspot.com/2017/02/dragons-and-magical-worldview-of-pre.html?m=1
scholars.fhsu.edu/theses/3210/
cherrycache.org/2021/05/16/alchemy-and-more/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20ancient,realised%3B%20the%20dragon%20is%20asleep.
This one connects to a lot of the concepts that parallel "Eastern" and "Western" viewpoints on dragon spiritual symbolism in the Journey of the Bard from a practitioner on the "Eastern" side commenting on Carl Jung's "Western" interpretation of concepts like the "Kundalini" symbolism:
medium.com/@VerseEveryDay/the-psychology-of-kundalini-yoga-by-carl-g-jung-8aded88c965a
Sorry if this is a lot! I can also e-mail or something if you wanna chat
@MusingMoss
Yes! I don't have full access to my collected resources right now, but I did a quick poke around for at least some starting places!
To be candid, I am coming at this as a Pagan tied to more "Western" (blech I don't like that dichotomy) traditions. My ability to identify good or accurate resources around "Eastern" traditions is thus limited, but I am going to include some things that would be where I would start if I were digging deeper into that side of research.
A book that-while it definitely has occasional biases of 1990's Wicca New Age Woo-does cite a lot of good academic resources and breaks a lot of these concepts down and highlights parallels and connections in a thorough and accessible way, is Journey of the Bard by Yvonne Owens.
Claude Lecouteux is a great academic writer on pagan/esoteric spirituality and at a quick glance this book seems like it would be the most relevant to dragon lore: www.goodreads.com/book/show/22748308-demons-and-spirits-of-the-land
Some good-looking starting-point articles:
muse.jhu.edu/article/867059/summary#:~:text=Magic%2C%20Ritual%2C%20and%20Witchcraft&text=Many%20early%20modern%20sources%20from,it%20stole%20from%20somebody%20else.
brookes-culturalthinking.blogspot.com/2017/02/dragons-and-magical-worldview-of-pre.html?m=1
scholars.fhsu.edu/theses/3210/
cherrycache.org/2021/05/16/alchemy-and-more/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20most%20ancient,realised%3B%20the%20dragon%20is%20asleep.
This one connects to a lot of the concepts that parallel "Eastern" and "Western" viewpoints on dragon spiritual symbolism in the Journey of the Bard from a practitioner on the "Eastern" side commenting on Carl Jung's "Western" interpretation of concepts like the "Kundalini" symbolism:
medium.com/@VerseEveryDay/the-psychology-of-kundalini-yoga-by-carl-g-jung-8aded88c965a
Sorry if this is a lot! I can also e-mail or something if you wanna chat more!
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Thank you so much!!!
This video is cool af. I love dragons.
Valstrax doesn't need flight muscles, it has jet engine wings.
Can't wait to dig into some dragons!!! I'd definitely be curious to see, perhaps in a spin-off series, looking at more fringe dragons throughout human mythology like Sumerian, Babylonian, Mayan, Chinese and even the dragons in various African cultures.
I need to know where the ear cuff is from
I got it from a place I worked at the Renaissance Festival =]
I really appreciate the physics comparisons to dinosaurs, birds, and bats!
Yay Dragons!
The first guy just killed a defenseless lizard. That's barely a dragon. It's not a termagent a cockatrice, not even a wyvern. And yes, I agree that dragons can also be extraterrestrial, as in the case for Avatars dragons
Right!!! That poor guy could barely walk or turn around T_T
Cool video, and nice Dragon green top!
L F Goooo
Still not used to the new name
I was thinking that wyverns also had scorpion tails instead of dragon breath or is that just D&D Bulls***? 😅
I think that might be DND bullshit but if we're being real mythology is a global phenomenon and there might be a legit wyvern with scorpion tail variation out there
I think you are thinking of a Manticore usually if it is actually a scorpion tail. Bat Wings, lions face and front feet, Scaled back legs and rump with Scorpion tail. there are a lot of Dragons with a venomous Tip on their tail in various literature I just have never encountered a Scorpion Tailed Dragon Personally but also I don't play D&D much or hardly at all so don't know the Monster Manual at all
That’s a fuckin dimetrodon lol
Hello Musing Moss(Luxander) a question for you just from the political side of things.
I have watched quite a few of your videos and one I remember well the most was your political compass video where you took the political compass test/quiz and you ended up in the libertarian left quadrant. Now based of your content in general it seems to me you are a leftist both economically and socially but looking at the recent election results in America it seems to me a government which I think is a auth-right gov is soon to be in charge of America. Now if you had to decide between an alliance with people on the libertarian right of the political compass or the people on the authoritarian left of the compass which would alliance with?
Honestly I don't know a lot about auth left politics, so given my limited knowledge and my own stances I feel like I'd be more comfortable with libertarian right, but it depends on what kind of "right" you know? Mostly I'm not sure about building coalition right now