I'm late, new farmer lol, but yes, great video, I need these videos because I know nothing lol, I like learning through trial and error but sometimes I get stumped and need assistance. Great Job!
in my opinion, if you are souly a silage producing farm you may be better off going with grass with respect to profitability. Grass is cheaper to grow and feild grass doesn't require the same level of attention compared to corn. You will get more turnover at less cost. Depending on the map, you also get the added benefit of free headland and roadside grass to add to your total haul. Great video and very well done experiment Paul 😊👍
Another few advantages of grass is that only needs fertilising once in growth cycle. You don’t have to replant it or plow before. You might get more yield of corn but effort to yield I think grass will be better.
First off thanks so much for doing this. I have been doing silage since FS 2007 and it has always been profitable. Grass is great as it requires no extra effort, plant once if at all and you are good to harvest many times. Note that grass gives 3 harvest to one corn, but...you get far more yields from corn = to 5 grass cuts once placed in Silo. FS 19 has added in breakdown of silage and therefore grass will decompose more than corn leaving you with less than corn it self. That said Thank you once again for the Video and wish everyone a happy farming.
I'd say that's as empirical a result as we're capable of getting within the bounds of the game. Well Done Sir! And good info too. I sure hope these test videos make a comeback, I really enjoy getting hard answers on questions like that and letting you do the work for it! hahahaha Thanks MrSealyP
Wow, You won the price!!! This neatly presented and well documented big test was perfect. The results are standing tall. You have made a really valuable video here. This should be linked as documentation on chaff production for FS19. For me, there were several surprises, so I got my numbers right now. Thank you very much for taking the time and do such a nice setup and test. I really appreciate this video. Mr. SealyP you are number One Sir. Great job and I honestly can't see any flaws in this presentation.
I do say the result was well needed and thank you for taking the time to do the test that we save a lot of peoples time, I do hope more test are planned in, a great video look forward to you next one
Useful vid and beautifully set up. Thanks MSP and for sharing the results. Not sure about crop values though there’s been comments I’ve heard around yield vs price per 1000 litres. Must do a test of that myself
Not just that - you never have to replow or relime a grass field the way you do corn. I've rarely had to even weed my grass field if at all. AND one of the modded mowers has a trailer hitch, so you can attach a forage wagon to it - or a baler - and it will work even with a worker. Just make sure to turn the trailer on before you send the worker off with the mower.
I’m always impressed and thankful for the time you take to set up these demonstrations and tests. I only ever do grass for silage, but I can see the attraction for corn.
With the up coming seasons release, and their statement that miss timed plantings may result in crops that do not mature prior to winter, it is a good reminder that there is a forage header that can chaff those fields so we can get something useful out of another wise failed crop
Another bonus for grass - when using seasons, you can harvest grass 3 times in a year, where corn only once! One thing it would be good to know: I understand you can chaff grains in the final stage of growth(??), thus if you can, is there any benefit to waiting until the grain is "ready to harvest"?
keep in mind though, it is possible to plant grass after corn harvest and than you can cut it before seeding the next year. giving you a bit more chaff than just running corn
Anyone watch 'In the Tall Grass' on Netflix and just think, "Wow, look at all that grass. I bet it'd make great silage!" Kinda ruined the movie when I kept waiting for a mower to come by....
Thank you for taking the time to do this test. From where I come from, the results were what I expected but I was curious to see what the other crops would yield. Another great vid MSp!! Hope you have a great week Cheers
Andrew, you can rely on MSp to make the test fair and even across the board. I believe the time between harvest would give another advantage to grass. No need to plow & re-seed so you could harvest grass twice to once for corn. Less output for equipment also.
Great video Mr P! Another nice thing with grass is you don’t have to chaff it, just load it in a loading wagon. So no need to buy an expensive forage harvester!
When starting out it's good but once you have the money it's easyer to get the grass header and run mutiple wagons. Those how i did it back when i played on console with no mods at all
I've always looked at this way. If your in a bind and need a lot of silage as soon as possible go corn. But for the long term production of silage for continuous support of the cattle, grass is the way to go. Takes an extra piece of machinery depending on how you cut and pick it up. But the long term investment return is far superior to corn. In my mind corn is good for silage when you are running really low and get in a bind, or just starting your cattle population and need to get that quick big influx of feed to get you going on milk production and sell cows as they breed. I haven't made a huge cow population in FS 19. But in 17 I have 258 head currently. I have 2 fields in grass and rotate back and forth between using it for hay and silage. Saves time and the money for the hired workers by eliminating the need to plow each time as you would with corn. Again long term investment far superior with grass over corn
Thanks again for another informative video. I didn't read all the comments, but the first thing that came to my mind is that with the grass you don't need a forage harvester ($$$$) all you need is a loading wagon; you can't do that with corn. I know you used it to keep everything equal. Of course you could also bale and wrap it but that's not good on a big scale. ( I had to edit, I spelled bale as bail, I guess that would be if it was not your property. LOL)
Nice video, must've take a lot of work to set up. Interesting fact I learned about corn silage is it's used improve dairy yields, it's sweet so cows love it and therefore eat more. That's why some dairy farms chaff corn for silage as well as grass. Be good if that was reflected in Farm Sim
This was a very interesting video, I was curious the chaff yields now with being able to do other crops. Thank you for doing the leg work! I am glad to see that corn is still chaff king, grass may be the better option when it comes to affordability, but I enjoy seeing the corn grow. Great video !
What would be nice also is to compare yield and straw between weat, barley and oat if you didn’t done it. For people like me who need straw more than the crops for animal bedding and food (TMR).
I didn't test the difference between wheat and barley on '17 but I did test fertilizing states. Straw was the same regardless of plowing and fertilizing state. Only the crop yield changed.
Better farming simulation through science. ;) Nice to see this; thanks! I've never exactly tested it, but back-of-the-envelope calculations have always pointed at corn for the winner in the quantity game, and at grass for the winner as regards ease; good to see that confirmed. I always do grass silage in early game because the required setup is cheap and once I've seeded it continued care is much less than for other crops. I'm still curious if grass were the overall winner if one calculates the total cost over a certain time (not only seed and fertilizer but also cost of plowing), because grass also grows faster and one never has to plough.
when Seasons are out, you can get 2 or 3 cuts of grass in a single season while you can only get 1 of corn. You do need to mow it multiple times, but no soil prep is needed so that kind of evens them out in terms of labour.
It's generally a tie between corn and grass. Grass is king when it comes to feeding cattle, since it produces the grass, hay, and silage you need to feed them. Grass does have a downside in that, with budget equipment, does have a habit of tying up your tractors with things like windrowing, tedding, baling, wrapping, and general manual management. Corn choppers just hucks it all in a trailer for the silo with no fuss. When the bunkers are full, you can crop the rest for cash.
Amazing test Mr.Sealyp Grass is the best with less re-investment of time and money. Thank you for taking the time to make this great video and sharing it, this helps tremendously with planning.
Great video, I have always wondered about this. I think I will stick to grass though. A mower setup with a loading wagon is a fair bit cheaper than a forage harvester.
Yup; it's still the best way to go in early game as well. Grass never needs reseeding, only needs one fertilizing cycle, and never needs plowing. Plus it grows faster than anything else. It's simply the easiest bang for the buck. I only chaff corn when I have a huge cow operation and want to produce silage fast and in great quantity.
There are some more advantages of grass then that it grows forever: no replowing needed ever. Then only one 'harvesting tool' needed for all uses, this means you mow it and then decide AFTERWARDS what to do with it: store it at grass, dry it to hay, ferment it to silage. Whereas with all the crops you have to decide BEFORE harvesting: harvest as crop or as chaff? Then you need a crop harvester with header(s) and an additional forage harvester. So if you only need it to feed one cow enclosure, I'd say go for grass. Thanks for testing that in detail - I kind of expected these results, but I really had thought that sunflowers would be close to corn and better yielding than grass if not even more than corn, as if you compare the plants in real - there is a lot more mass in these plants as this test would let you think (at least for me it is hard to believe that corn has five times the amount of a comparable sunflower)!
Pricing will be different on bale wrapping the grass. You get so much more money for bales. I hire a lot of workers and get the job done. And the money just flows in. Now if I can get someone to make the Nadal R90 front in windrower like I had in 17, I'd be set! Front end windrower, bale wrapper. The only annoying part is running all the trucks back and forth to the sell point.
Thank you Mr SealyP. I use grass for making silage and on Stevie's Fenton Forest map you can make digestate from grass so the fertilising costs are minimal. Regards James.
Great test video and I'm sure you made an easy choice decision for a lot of people on best to use! Thanks for the work as always Sir! Thumbs up of course!
Your video confirmed my testing as to the reason I do grass. Corn is required for hogs, why chaff a crop that is a requirement for a certain animal type. Canola has a high price per litre, the yields and work required, worthless crop all the way around. I only plant the following crops: 1. Corn 2. Wheat/Barley 3. Sunflowers 4. Grass (for hay and silage) 5. Soybeans 6. For Saplings (major cash flow all day long when harvesting with huge profit margins when done properly) The following are the critters I raise: 1. Chickens 2. Hogs 3. Sheep 4. Cattle If it is not on my list, you are a fool. I am Picking Gaming here on RUclips for my gaming branding. Thank you.
Great vid Mr SP - there are comments below saying grass can be done with a mower and forage wagon, but this won’t generate chaff, just grass. You have mowed it and then foraged it, so chopped it into chaff. Is there a comparison between same strip of grass mowed and forage wagon collected, then put in a clamp (believe you can do that) and as you have done it? Different product should end up in the trailer/forage wagon, so presumably there will be a difference in the volume? That would be interesting test. More mod reviews please! Brilliant videos - I used to favour another RUclipsr but you have a greater knowledge on farming!
Came here to get my question answered, and you did that. Was setting up for corn,,but will now sell off my expensive machines and go for a cheap ass mower instead ^^ Should have looked here first. =P Nice vid, thanks got yourself a like o7
straw pellets changes the calculation COMPLETELY for foraging Wheat/Barley - my last harvest, I made more in Straw Pellets than I did selling the Wheat
in game corn when it is still green before fully ripe yields more for silage than when it has dies off and is ready for harvesting with a combing. i think same aplies for cerial crop if you are going to whole crop silage it
Grass always - low planting cost - never have to replant, never have to plow or cultivate after first planting - free first stage of fertilizer when mowed, so less fertilizer. Although corn will give you more yield per acre it also costs way more to prep the field and plant.
Great video/test...love the set up! Have you done a test on amount of yield having weeds/plowing and lime turned off, but doing 2 fertilizer runs vs having them turned on and taking care of all three + doing the 2 fertilizer runs. I wonder, because there is more cost and time involved with lime/plowing and weeds on vs off, so you would think the yield would be more...but it would take a test to know for certain. ;)
If I remember correctly turning plowing, lime, and weeds off make the yield count obsolete for those. In which case the would give the full yield as if they were done. I could be wrong, but that was my understanding from previous research on the subject.
@@mperk12000 well, by reading the in game helps...plowing and weeds can give a deficit if turned on and not taken care of, but lime is included in adding to yield if done. So i can see not getting the deficit to yield if plowing and weeds are turned off, but I wonder if the lime would add or not.
Excellent video, MrSealyP, a very accurate and truthful test run. However, with Seasons coming and the concept of beef cattle and dairy cows being separated by breed, I'll probably chaff corn for my beef cattle. There is nothing better than 🌽 fed Angus steaks!! Lol, thanks for sharing!
just a point of testing here. If the problem with the Workers is just a graphic thing the results should stand. However, with it not doing it with every crop, it could have caused a glitch in the results of how much is harvested per crop. You may want to reset and harvest them all by hand (no workers) just to double-check your results.
I prefer grass as it regrows over and over plus you can cut grass faster then corn.If you was to harvest grass for 1 hour and then harvest corn for 1 hour i think you would have more chaff from grass then from corn also more money left.great video thank you
In 17, the xdisc header yeilded less grass as chaff than using mowers and dropping the grass on the ground. Not sure about 19 tho. Might be something to look into.
Thanks for doing this test! Good idea and very informative. I agree on grass being best for silage still.... there's a reason why the Irish love there grass silage
I always use grass for silage, regardless if I use it or sell it. For me it doesn`t make sense to "destroy" crops, when you can have fields of grass that regrow by themselves, all you have to do is mow till you get bored. :)
Grass makes sense to me, because the bga plant pumps out digestate, which you can put through a slurry spreader, and re-fertilise the grass So, buy the equipment to seed it once, everything after that is free
Hi MSP. Thanks for a great video! Follow on test suggestion: I've read that grass yield doesn't change depending on fertilizer 1 or 2 state. Would love to see the yields of both states with this test bed. Also after a few mows, a grass field will still say 'needs lime'. Would love to see if that impacts the yield.
I figured that corn would be #1 was not sure how the rest would do thanks for finding out for us. Also patch 1.4.1 is coming out Monday for consoles and that should fix the forage help issues fyi.
Grass is good for starting out "new farm" and you want to go with silage. Corn is the best period, even with seeding it still outstrips grass, even in your little test you clearly saw the difference. Corn is more up front cost since it does take a forage harvester and a few tractors ect to get going. However on a large field you will be FAR better off doing Corn (and until they add a inline plow, like the cultivators, and not some stupid EU style mold-board, always turn plowing off, even the subsoiler's pissant 8m is a joke). Corn will fill 1 or 2 silage bins depending on the field size in just 1 harvest.
Very interesting if running seasons you can get 3 cuts of grass per season i do early cut hay when weather is right if it rain its silage and make hay on second cut in that summer but that can clash with harvest of combine crops and always get late cut of grass for silage making . You may all ready done this but need to look at crop yield less inputs seed fert etc on a given acreage to see where most profit is
I’m wondering if those headers will come in handy with seasons. I know it has crop rotations, getting caught between ‘good’ silage crops with no silage for TMR might make the decision for you to chaff a certain crop even though it may not be highest yield, but that’s better than unproductive cows.
Grass is chafed around the dairy farm but at the arable farm corn is in the rotation which will come to par with grass yields depending on the amount you plant 🌱 and as seasons requires crop rotation corn silage would most likely become a better way of filling the silo. (Would be worth another test with seasons)
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It is true that we may know this info already, however it is great to see someone actually prove it. Well done.
I'm late, new farmer lol, but yes, great video, I need these videos because I know nothing lol, I like learning through trial and error but sometimes I get stumped and need assistance. Great Job!
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in my opinion, if you are souly a silage producing farm you may be better off going with grass with respect to profitability.
Grass is cheaper to grow and feild grass doesn't require the same level of attention compared to corn. You will get more turnover at less cost. Depending on the map, you also get the added benefit of free headland and roadside grass to add to your total haul.
Great video and very well done experiment Paul 😊👍
Atomic67 G the roadside grass is nomore in fs19 because you have to own that land in most cases you dont own it
Another few advantages of grass is that only needs fertilising once in growth cycle. You don’t have to replant it or plow before.
You might get more yield of corn but effort to yield I think grass will be better.
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ah yes, good point. I forgot about that 😊
Plus you can harvest 3 grass crops for every corn crop ... grass is head and shoulders above everything. Which is not realistic but whatever.
Is there any difference between mowing and forage harvesting the grass in terms of yield? Anyone tested?
First off thanks so much for doing this. I have been doing silage since FS 2007 and it has always been profitable.
Grass is great as it requires no extra effort, plant once if at all and you are good to harvest many times.
Note that grass gives 3 harvest to one corn, but...you get far more yields from corn = to 5 grass cuts once placed in Silo.
FS 19 has added in breakdown of silage and therefore grass will decompose more than corn leaving you with less than corn it self.
That said Thank you once again for the Video and wish everyone a happy farming.
I'd say that's as empirical a result as we're capable of getting within the bounds of the game. Well Done Sir! And good info too. I sure hope these test videos make a comeback, I really enjoy getting hard answers on questions like that and letting you do the work for it! hahahaha Thanks MrSealyP
I enjoy the test videos to
Wow, You won the price!!! This neatly presented and well documented big test was perfect. The results are standing tall. You have made a really valuable video here. This should be linked as documentation on chaff production for FS19. For me, there were several surprises, so I got my numbers right now. Thank you very much for taking the time and do such a nice setup and test. I really appreciate this video. Mr. SealyP you are number One Sir. Great job and I honestly can't see any flaws in this presentation.
I do say the result was well needed and thank you for taking the time to do the test that we save a lot of peoples time, I do hope more test are planned in, a great video look forward to you next one
Useful vid and beautifully set up. Thanks MSP and for sharing the results. Not sure about crop values though there’s been comments I’ve heard around yield vs price per 1000 litres. Must do a test of that myself
Great video, so corn is the best but still the hardest, ploughing is a pain, so i stick to grass. Thanks MrSealyp.
Not just that - you never have to replow or relime a grass field the way you do corn. I've rarely had to even weed my grass field if at all. AND one of the modded mowers has a trailer hitch, so you can attach a forage wagon to it - or a baler - and it will work even with a worker. Just make sure to turn the trailer on before you send the worker off with the mower.
I’m always impressed and thankful for the time you take to set up these demonstrations and tests. I only ever do grass for silage, but I can see the attraction for corn.
With the up coming seasons release, and their statement that miss timed plantings may result in crops that do not mature prior to winter, it is a good reminder that there is a forage header that can chaff those fields so we can get something useful out of another wise failed crop
Good thought. Better to get something than nothing.
Another bonus for grass - when using seasons, you can harvest grass 3 times in a year, where corn only once!
One thing it would be good to know: I understand you can chaff grains in the final stage of growth(??), thus if you can, is there any benefit to waiting until the grain is "ready to harvest"?
keep in mind though, it is possible to plant grass after corn harvest and than you can cut it before seeding the next year. giving you a bit more chaff than just running corn
Appreciate the time spent testing this, good job!
Anyone watch 'In the Tall Grass' on Netflix and just think, "Wow, look at all that grass. I bet it'd make great silage!" Kinda ruined the movie when I kept waiting for a mower to come by....
Yeah I did too xD
Thank you for taking the time to do this test. From where I come from, the results were what I expected but I was curious to see what the other crops would yield. Another great vid MSp!! Hope you have a great week Cheers
I like a good fair test too.
Andrew, you can rely on MSp to make the test fair and even across the board. I believe the time between harvest would give another advantage to grass. No need to plow & re-seed so you could harvest grass twice to once for corn. Less output for equipment also.
Great video Mr P! Another nice thing with grass is you don’t have to chaff it, just load it in a loading wagon. So no need to buy an expensive forage harvester!
Grass doesn't need a forage harvester either, big cash saver.
When starting out it's good but once you have the money it's easyer to get the grass header and run mutiple wagons. Those how i did it back when i played on console with no mods at all
I've always looked at this way. If your in a bind and need a lot of silage as soon as possible go corn. But for the long term production of silage for continuous support of the cattle, grass is the way to go. Takes an extra piece of machinery depending on how you cut and pick it up. But the long term investment return is far superior to corn. In my mind corn is good for silage when you are running really low and get in a bind, or just starting your cattle population and need to get that quick big influx of feed to get you going on milk production and sell cows as they breed.
I haven't made a huge cow population in FS 19. But in 17 I have 258 head currently. I have 2 fields in grass and rotate back and forth between using it for hay and silage. Saves time and the money for the hired workers by eliminating the need to plow each time as you would with corn. Again long term investment far superior with grass over corn
Excellent work MSP. I've used grass for my silage for awhile now. Solely due to the fact it that it regrows.
Thanks again for another informative video. I didn't read all the comments, but the first thing that came to my mind is that with the grass you don't need a forage harvester ($$$$) all you need is a loading wagon; you can't do that with corn. I know you used it to keep everything equal. Of course you could also bale and wrap it but that's not good on a big scale. ( I had to edit, I spelled bale as bail, I guess that would be if it was not your property. LOL)
Corn is king. Everyone knows that. BULL. Most of us figured but weren’t positive so I for one truly appreciate your video. Thanks Sealy!!
Nice video, must've take a lot of work to set up. Interesting fact I learned about corn silage is it's used improve dairy yields, it's sweet so cows love it and therefore eat more. That's why some dairy farms chaff corn for silage as well as grass. Be good if that was reflected in Farm Sim
This was a very interesting video, I was curious the chaff yields now with being able to do other crops. Thank you for doing the leg work! I am glad to see that corn is still chaff king, grass may be the better option when it comes to affordability, but I enjoy seeing the corn grow. Great video !
You're starting to become my goto for information, short sweet and to the point.
its good that someone has taken their time out to prove it and it’s grate video definitely got your self a subscriber keep up the good work
What would be nice also is to compare yield and straw between weat, barley and oat if you didn’t done it.
For people like me who need straw more than the crops for animal bedding and food (TMR).
I didn't test the difference between wheat and barley on '17 but I did test fertilizing states. Straw was the same regardless of plowing and fertilizing state. Only the crop yield changed.
Better farming simulation through science. ;) Nice to see this; thanks! I've never exactly tested it, but back-of-the-envelope calculations have always pointed at corn for the winner in the quantity game, and at grass for the winner as regards ease; good to see that confirmed. I always do grass silage in early game because the required setup is cheap and once I've seeded it continued care is much less than for other crops. I'm still curious if grass were the overall winner if one calculates the total cost over a certain time (not only seed and fertilizer but also cost of plowing), because grass also grows faster and one never has to plough.
when Seasons are out, you can get 2 or 3 cuts of grass in a single season while you can only get 1 of corn. You do need to mow it multiple times, but no soil prep is needed so that kind of evens them out in terms of labour.
Thanks mate that was a brilliant test, we all know where we're going now, thanks for putting in all the hard work too.
Super useful to know 👌🏻 grass will be my go to, but when I’m bored of mowing I’ll be planting corn :)
It's generally a tie between corn and grass. Grass is king when it comes to feeding cattle, since it produces the grass, hay, and silage you need to feed them. Grass does have a downside in that, with budget equipment, does have a habit of tying up your tractors with things like windrowing, tedding, baling, wrapping, and general manual management. Corn choppers just hucks it all in a trailer for the silo with no fuss. When the bunkers are full, you can crop the rest for cash.
What a great comparison video. Thanks so much for your effort and patience.
Amazing test Mr.Sealyp Grass is the best with less re-investment of time and money. Thank you for taking the time to make this great video and sharing it, this helps tremendously with planning.
Great video I would have never guessed grass would be second to corn and in the long-term it could be more profitable
Great video, I have always wondered about this. I think I will stick to grass though. A mower setup with a loading wagon is a fair bit cheaper than a forage harvester.
Yup; it's still the best way to go in early game as well. Grass never needs reseeding, only needs one fertilizing cycle, and never needs plowing. Plus it grows faster than anything else. It's simply the easiest bang for the buck. I only chaff corn when I have a huge cow operation and want to produce silage fast and in great quantity.
There are some more advantages of grass then that it grows forever: no replowing needed ever. Then only one 'harvesting tool' needed for all uses, this means you mow it and then decide AFTERWARDS what to do with it: store it at grass, dry it to hay, ferment it to silage. Whereas with all the crops you have to decide BEFORE harvesting: harvest as crop or as chaff? Then you need a crop harvester with header(s) and an additional forage harvester. So if you only need it to feed one cow enclosure, I'd say go for grass.
Thanks for testing that in detail - I kind of expected these results, but I really had thought that sunflowers would be close to corn and better yielding than grass if not even more than corn, as if you compare the plants in real - there is a lot more mass in these plants as this test would let you think (at least for me it is hard to believe that corn has five times the amount of a comparable sunflower)!
Nice setup, good test, but WOW, such a big difference in the result.
Pricing will be different on bale wrapping the grass. You get so much more money for bales. I hire a lot of workers and get the job done. And the money just flows in.
Now if I can get someone to make the Nadal R90 front in windrower like I had in 17, I'd be set!
Front end windrower, bale wrapper. The only annoying part is running all the trucks back and forth to the sell point.
Per liter price is the same for silage in bales or loose
Thank you Mr SealyP. I use grass for making silage and on Stevie's Fenton Forest map you can make digestate from grass so the fertilising costs are minimal. Regards James.
Nice work. I appreciate you doing videos to research these things so I don't need to.
Wow that surprised me too! I think I'll stick with corn and grass for chaff! Thank Mr. SealyP!
Why not see if anything changes putting the oil seed down first as that only came out in fs17 and is meant to help with yield
Did you call him Helga Sengstock?
Great vid ! I chatted sunflower on 17 before I could of swore after buying a field on lone oak.
Great test video and I'm sure you made an easy choice decision for a lot of people on best to use! Thanks for the work as always Sir! Thumbs up of course!
Idk why but ur rlly satisfying to listen to
Your video confirmed my testing as to the reason I do grass. Corn is required for hogs, why chaff a crop that is a requirement for a certain animal type. Canola has a high price per litre, the yields and work required, worthless crop all the way around. I only plant the following crops:
1. Corn
2. Wheat/Barley
3. Sunflowers
4. Grass (for hay and silage)
5. Soybeans
6. For Saplings (major cash flow all day long when harvesting with huge profit margins when done properly)
The following are the critters I raise:
1. Chickens
2. Hogs
3. Sheep
4. Cattle
If it is not on my list, you are a fool. I am Picking Gaming here on RUclips for my gaming branding. Thank you.
Another informative video! Would love to see a logging one...... especially with the new 13m cutting lengths
Great vid Mr SP - there are comments below saying grass can be done with a mower and forage wagon, but this won’t generate chaff, just grass. You have mowed it and then foraged it, so chopped it into chaff. Is there a comparison between same strip of grass mowed and forage wagon collected, then put in a clamp (believe you can do that) and as you have done it? Different product should end up in the trailer/forage wagon, so presumably there will be a difference in the volume? That would be interesting test. More mod reviews please! Brilliant videos - I used to favour another RUclipsr but you have a greater knowledge on farming!
can you chaff the straw from the wheat, barley, oats etc...
Came here to get my question answered, and you did that.
Was setting up for corn,,but will now sell off my expensive machines and go for a cheap ass mower instead ^^
Should have looked here first. =P Nice vid, thanks got yourself a like o7
Fantastic video mrsealy p
What about foraging the crop before it's ready to for harvest? I seen people do oats while still green
Hi amazing vid and thanks , nice to have a Brit doing tutorials for a change .
Can u do a spread sheet and bang it on your fb page so u can always look back and ref it ? Gr8 video
10 out of 10 for this info mate,very good well thought out,keep slinging on the slurry,,grass for me,,,,
straw pellets changes the calculation COMPLETELY for foraging Wheat/Barley - my last harvest, I made more in Straw Pellets than I did selling the Wheat
Also with grass, you only need a mower and forage wagon. No expensive forage harvester required. Interesting vid 😀
in game corn when it is still green before fully ripe yields more for silage than when it has dies off and is ready for harvesting with a combing. i think same aplies for cerial crop if you are going to whole crop silage it
Great test! We trust your tests.
I like a good fair test too.
Grass always - low planting cost - never have to replant, never have to plow or cultivate after first planting - free first stage of fertilizer when mowed, so less fertilizer. Although corn will give you more yield per acre it also costs way more to prep the field and plant.
Well done thanks for a new farm simmer it helps a lot!
Cool test, thanks for the very useful info MrSealyp.
Great video/test...love the set up! Have you done a test on amount of yield having weeds/plowing and lime turned off, but doing 2 fertilizer runs vs having them turned on and taking care of all three + doing the 2 fertilizer runs. I wonder, because there is more cost and time involved with lime/plowing and weeds on vs off, so you would think the yield would be more...but it would take a test to know for certain. ;)
If I remember correctly turning plowing, lime, and weeds off make the yield count obsolete for those. In which case the would give the full yield as if they were done. I could be wrong, but that was my understanding from previous research on the subject.
@@mperk12000 well, by reading the in game helps...plowing and weeds can give a deficit if turned on and not taken care of, but lime is included in adding to yield if done. So i can see not getting the deficit to yield if plowing and weeds are turned off, but I wonder if the lime would add or not.
Saved me doing it so cheers bug guy
I like a good fair test too.
Favorite map so far myself and thank you for this information good sir
Is there a difference between "mowing" grass directly with the forage harvester and first mowing it and picking it up afterwards?
I saw your other test this one is just as cool!!!
Grass can be lifted faster and cheaper to produce as you know it grows back so saves a tonne of money and is regrown in no time
Thanks, Mr. SealyPP. Great job.
Excellent video, MrSealyP, a very accurate and truthful test run. However, with Seasons coming and the concept of beef cattle and dairy cows being separated by breed, I'll probably chaff corn for my beef cattle. There is nothing better than 🌽 fed Angus steaks!! Lol, thanks for sharing!
a cool test MrSealyP 😊👍
Excellent work
Great video as always, you have proved that not all mods are worth downloading 😁
just a point of testing here. If the problem with the Workers is just a graphic thing the results should stand. However, with it not doing it with every crop, it could have caused a glitch in the results of how much is harvested per crop. You may want to reset and harvest them all by hand (no workers) just to double-check your results.
@@MrSealyp "For Science"
I prefer grass as it regrows over and over plus you can cut grass faster then corn.If you was to harvest grass for 1 hour and then harvest corn for 1 hour i think you would have more chaff from grass then from corn also more money left.great video thank you
In 17, the xdisc header yeilded less grass as chaff than using mowers and dropping the grass on the ground. Not sure about 19 tho. Might be something to look into.
I know that I'm a year late but I have a question. Does the machine and header have an effect on yield?
Would chaffing be possible with a withered crop?
Thanks for doing this test! Good idea and very informative. I agree on grass being best for silage still.... there's a reason why the Irish love there grass silage
Thanks for the effort you put in testing. These videos are really helpful
What would the yield of sugarcane be?
If you are on seasons, grass is by far the best option. At least two harvests in a year vs one for corn.
Soybean and canola have lower yield than barley and wheat also in grain
I always use grass for silage, regardless if I use it or sell it. For me it doesn`t make sense to "destroy" crops, when you can have fields of grass that regrow by themselves, all you have to do is mow till you get bored. :)
Grass makes sense to me, because the bga plant pumps out digestate, which you can put through a slurry spreader, and re-fertilise the grass
So, buy the equipment to seed it once, everything after that is free
Hi MSP. Thanks for a great video!
Follow on test suggestion:
I've read that grass yield doesn't change depending on fertilizer 1 or 2 state. Would love to see the yields of both states with this test bed.
Also after a few mows, a grass field will still say 'needs lime'. Would love to see if that impacts the yield.
7:00 imagine if someone actually thought you were trying to trick people 😂🤣😊😊
Outstanding work, thanks for the time spent. BC.
I’ve heard that corn yields more if you chop it one growth stage before ready to harvest
I figured that corn would be #1 was not sure how the rest would do thanks for finding out for us. Also patch 1.4.1 is coming out Monday for consoles and that should fix the forage help issues fyi.
If I really need volume (like with a large number of cows) then I go with corn silage. Otherwise grass works fine.
Great video. Informative. You did the hard work for us.
Grass is good for starting out "new farm" and you want to go with silage. Corn is the best period, even with seeding it still outstrips grass, even in your little test you clearly saw the difference. Corn is more up front cost since it does take a forage harvester and a few tractors ect to get going. However on a large field you will be FAR better off doing Corn (and until they add a inline plow, like the cultivators, and not some stupid EU style mold-board, always turn plowing off, even the subsoiler's pissant 8m is a joke). Corn will fill 1 or 2 silage bins depending on the field size in just 1 harvest.
Silage is supposed to be done when the crop is green or last stage of growth. Does that matter in the game?
One more thing, did we ever find out if poplar bales or loose chips were a better option?
Very interesting if running seasons you can get 3 cuts of grass per season i do early cut hay when weather is right if it rain its silage and make hay on second cut in that summer but that can clash with harvest of combine crops and always get late cut of grass for silage making . You may all ready done this but need to look at crop yield less inputs seed fert etc on a given acreage to see where most profit is
I’m wondering if those headers will come in handy with seasons. I know it has crop rotations, getting caught between ‘good’ silage crops with no silage for TMR might make the decision for you to chaff a certain crop even though it may not be highest yield, but that’s better than unproductive cows.
Grass is chafed around the dairy farm but at the arable farm corn is in the rotation which will come to par with grass yields depending on the amount you plant 🌱 and as seasons requires crop rotation corn silage would most likely become a better way of filling the silo. (Would be worth another test with seasons)
I did just over 1,000,000 litres of corn silage with the in game Krone forage harvester using a worker on PC today. didn't see any stuttering.