not to mention that first chokepoint was much better because every unit has to go thru for the full circle compared to the second one where some units only go thru a quarter of it
It doesn't help that he has both good and bad advice coming in from chat. No idea who gave him the idea that obelisk/particle cannon/radar were good. The person at the end saying fire and poison are bad is just plain wrong. I haven't played it since the patches and beat it just fine on launch putting teslas, fire, poison and frost at every choke point. You definitely need to spend a lot more on upgrades than he's doing, and split between the tower's affinity and health. On teslas you need some armor too. He also needs to be unlocking towers early on. You don't need a bonus +1 base damage in the early game, you can upgrade your 3 shredders with +1 base damage in a single wave.
@@lllllllllllillllllll I beat it just fine as well but for me Frost Keep is a waste of money, just get poison slow. For me upgrades are exclusively to bring new towers up to speed, and for Universities. For me it makes no sense to upgrade damage outside each tower's affinity, especially health since Shredders are so strong. For same reason I didn't even unlock the upgrade paths for non-affinity damage because I don't want the dead card draw. I think Ryan (or anyone really) can do fine in this game despite completely ignoring what you're saying they _need_ to do. There's more than one winning strat. That being said, those Teslas were pretty bad. And why would he place Mortars on +3 between two paths? That's perfect Shredder territory.
Even a mine dropper on the last few squares could have saved him easily. Those are essentially like mortars, but they hardly ever miss, and if there's no target, they just wait until one comes and sets them off.
that's why you go for radar and have them target higher shield, armour and health that way they have 80% chance of destroying bosses and for the rest flame and poison tower is enough
My strategy was shredder poison sprayer flamethrower and ballista. I added poison and burn to ballistas and then poison slows enemies and burn burns faster based on how much slow. Easy win
So all of the other Rogue Tower players online use either a Ballista Only strategy, or a Ballista + 1 other tower strategy, and they win most of the time. NL uses ALL the towers and always loses. Does anyone think that he should try Ballista Only to see the power of upgrading one tower type over millions of them?
Winning with Ballista only and Ballista + 1 tower are actually achievements in the game, they aren't strategies. It is easier to use all (most) towers to win the game, although the game is easy enough to be won with any strat as long as you take advantage of the OP mechanics of the game.
I make pho for a living.. I am not surprised to hear noodles come over cooked in take out. They get par-cooked before hand and then it's literally 10seconds in hot water to order. This means if ALL the water doesn't get drained out it'll just continue cooking in the containers. 30sec is enough to over cook them. Ramen noodles are just a much more robust forgiving noodle.
Fun fact: in ancient Hebrew law the wife had the legal right to divorce her husband if he did not sexual gratify her because it was considered a failure of the husband's marital duty. This effectively phased out polygamy.
What is the point of saving a ton of gold and then only placing towers in a panic once the wave actually starts? Couldn't he get so much more value if he placed towers first so they actually had time to do damage instead of placing them half or 3/4 through the wave once he realizes hes going to be overrun?
Yeah, the guys that Zombie Oogie spits out are shielded. It's pretty important to remove the shields from him and have some more shield damage after that. The problem wasn't buying too many towers. It was not using them effectively. Now, the map was really bad and I might have restarted that one early when I saw so many branches, but NL really didn't play it effectively I think.
@@LINKedup101 they "target" one enemy at a time, and then everything that hits that target gets the lookouts damage and crit chance added to it. They're brilliant, especially in combination with the upgrade that gives -1 base damage for +level% crit chance. They also synergise really well with universities, since they add their damage to the lookout too, basically letting you double up (and more with crits) on the bonusss from universities Of all the ballista + 1 other type of tower achievements, ballista + lookout is probably the easiest imo.
Tfw I won with Poison sprayer Flame thrower Shredder (These 3 always clustered with the relevant DOT perks. E.g. +50% burn damage and increase burn damage per second to 50/80/etc., Also poison slowing) Radar (mostly HP damage leveling with mild anti-armor buffing) Particle cannon highly upgraded shield damage A maze of slightly upgraded ballistae and encampments near the tower to catch survivors and speedsters Mana banks out the ass
How long until NL reads the top right to see he can shift click to place multiple towers? Also any chance of more pokemon showdown soon? Also quick tip for the houses: You can place siphons around them for 100 and the price doesnt increase rather than increasing the cost of the ballista for minimal damage. Quite useful when houses are in trash locations
You can't place anything other than offensive towers near houses, you won't get money. *And he literally shift clicked in the first minute of the video, this comment is entirely cap
When your feelings about the streamer parallel his feelings about Ricky Gervais. I find NL to be so insufferably blue-pilled now that I can't even watch.
@@MajorasWrath1 Lol. What a response. He's probably racist enough. He's free to be who he wants to be I just can't watch anymore. I prefer to watch people who are more innocuous or I agree with on more things. It's sort of like trying to watch a movie that's too illogical or inconsistent or gets the science wrong too much. It breaks my immersion. I'd say I'm the one that changed probably, not NL. It's just sad because I used to watch all of his Isaac content. The Ricky Gervais comment is probably a perfect example. I'm just trying to watch him play a nice tower defense game and then he drops one of the most NPC, corporate, blue-pilled takes about Ricky Gervais. Basically, "I liked him until he started being too concerned about censorship." Someone like Retromation I find more appealing because he doesn't drop random takes like that. I just check in on NL occasionally now to see if I still feel the same way.
Watching him place a single tesla coil on that choke point and then ignoring the other one right next to it killed me. Then he put a mortar on it.
not to mention that first chokepoint was much better because every unit has to go thru for the full circle compared to the second one where some units only go thru a quarter of it
The fact that he put three tesla coils on that single spot was more infuriating.
Classic NL plays. "I wanna go out on my own terms"
RYAB "the beast" Letourneau
It doesn't help that he has both good and bad advice coming in from chat. No idea who gave him the idea that obelisk/particle cannon/radar were good. The person at the end saying fire and poison are bad is just plain wrong.
I haven't played it since the patches and beat it just fine on launch putting teslas, fire, poison and frost at every choke point. You definitely need to spend a lot more on upgrades than he's doing, and split between the tower's affinity and health. On teslas you need some armor too.
He also needs to be unlocking towers early on. You don't need a bonus +1 base damage in the early game, you can upgrade your 3 shredders with +1 base damage in a single wave.
@@lllllllllllillllllll I beat it just fine as well but for me Frost Keep is a waste of money, just get poison slow. For me upgrades are exclusively to bring new towers up to speed, and for Universities. For me it makes no sense to upgrade damage outside each tower's affinity, especially health since Shredders are so strong. For same reason I didn't even unlock the upgrade paths for non-affinity damage because I don't want the dead card draw. I think Ryan (or anyone really) can do fine in this game despite completely ignoring what you're saying they _need_ to do. There's more than one winning strat.
That being said, those Teslas were pretty bad. And why would he place Mortars on +3 between two paths? That's perfect Shredder territory.
Finally...my dopamine hit.
Aye y'all got any more of that... rogue-like tower defense VODs?
Rogue Tower and Vampire Survivors vids are my weekly dopamine allowances amen
still waiting for mon bazou😢
@@grumpydoodle8455 🤩🤩
@@adamthedog1 I NEED MY MON BAZOU
The love hate feelings I get watching Ryan play this. It's unbelievable lol.
It got so bad I up and bought the game lol
It's like watching a dog try to eat a bee.
This is yet another game I've bought because of Northernlion
Like vampire survivors... and all worth the money 100%
He's a walking advertisement for games that you wanna do better than him in.
@@jamesbaurus5928 that and I think he just picks games that are real fun without being too expensive.
*boss with a shit ton of shield spawns*
NL: "we need armor damage"
NL: *choses a spot for obelisk* "Thats not good enough"
*choses a worse spot* "Thats better"
POV: he goes armor towers against zombie oogie TWICE
Ryan takes excess gold and puts it directly into his Roth IRA
Watching the Egg attempt to destroy the Ogre... it fills you with DETERMINATION
poison and fire are amazing you just have to raise the caps as much as you can while leveling
Caps don't really matter. Just get the 15% crit and pog all game. Even better just get one radar for each type and watch big brain oogie melt
Love watching you play Rogue Tower so much. I hope you continue this for awhile! It's been one of the most entertaining games I've seen in some time
If he had taken "Make them suffer" the last oogie would've melted. +40 to all DOT and the build applied all three DOT and lots of it
Even a mine dropper on the last few squares could have saved him easily. Those are essentially like mortars, but they hardly ever miss, and if there's no target, they just wait until one comes and sets them off.
poison towers are actually better than most things in this game, he just doesn't upgrade his towers correctly
and he doesn't position them ideally
that's why you go for radar and have them target higher shield, armour and health
that way they have 80% chance of destroying bosses and for the rest flame and poison tower is enough
@northernlion hold shift while placing towers so you don’t have to keep clicking on the icon every time
Watching NL move the map around gave me epilepsy
I appreciate your conflict resolution skills, makes the video more funny and enjoyable
28:19 the In Bruges reference completely out of nowhere sent my pog levels to the stratosphere.
My strategy was shredder poison sprayer flamethrower and ballista. I added poison and burn to ballistas and then poison slows enemies and burn burns faster based on how much slow. Easy win
So all of the other Rogue Tower players online use either a Ballista Only strategy, or a Ballista + 1 other tower strategy, and they win most of the time. NL uses ALL the towers and always loses. Does anyone think that he should try Ballista Only to see the power of upgrading one tower type over millions of them?
no
Winning with Ballista only and Ballista + 1 tower are actually achievements in the game, they aren't strategies. It is easier to use all (most) towers to win the game, although the game is easy enough to be won with any strat as long as you take advantage of the OP mechanics of the game.
It’s weird how we have a window into Nl’s routine and psyche. We are watching him grow has a dad day by day and it’s super cute.
28:21 The In Bruges reference just fucking slammed into me like a brick covered in lemon juice. Banger movie
loses while sitting on 5k gold, lesson he learns, "i bought too many towers". for a smart guy hes really bad at this one
He mentioned Awesomenauts and I got so much nostalgia...wow
Some show this guy Nova Drift. Another rogue like for the king of rouge likes.
got this game because of you and just beat all 45 levels, thank you for putting me onto it and creating great content
This videos are so funny for me, because I know basically nothing and nobody he is talking about
The SEO, one of the greatest EO’s from this generation, from EIEI to CAPTAIN!!! - Bill Walton
19:28 heavy forsenCD energy
best game
glasses prescription huge
Oh my god. I gotta start watching the stream. I literally said the exact same thing about eating all the chips like a week ago.
Really would recommend getting some mods for the game. The speed up one for sure and I enjoy the respec instead of reset one
Does that make achievements unobtainable? I want my achievements
@@acid_rainbow6935 I’m unsure about that part
Papa loves RogueTower. (I’m papa in this scenario.) (I loves RogueTower.)
as soon as NL started to sing tomo wanted to leave
understandable, have a great day
If you dont want to bother with the microlevelling, quality over quantity is some passive scaling
I make pho for a living.. I am not surprised to hear noodles come over cooked in take out. They get par-cooked before hand and then it's literally 10seconds in hot water to order. This means if ALL the water doesn't get drained out it'll just continue cooking in the containers. 30sec is enough to over cook them. Ramen noodles are just a much more robust forgiving noodle.
Yass I love the Occasional rogue tower
“Keep him in the dark” sent me
TIL that ballistas give gold, and I’ve gone from hating the useless ones to wandering why anyone would ever not surround every house with them…
they're still garbage. it would take minimum 50 turns to gross dollar 1 on a useless ballista since it would stay lvl 1
@@SuperRage1998 ah. Makes sense
I live in Utah. That polygamy bit slapped so hard 😂😂😂
Fun fact: in ancient Hebrew law the wife had the legal right to divorce her husband if he did not sexual gratify her because it was considered a failure of the husband's marital duty. This effectively phased out polygamy.
Another law was that the husband had to get up first and make coffee. Therefore the name, "He brews"
_ba-dum tsss_
Just once he needs to place 10+ mortars in close proximity and he'll win with ease. Also a partical cannon ease a free win on lvl 25
I feel like NL is purposefully NOT using "shift-click" to easily place multiple towers in a row. Just to trigger some people. And it's working :D
I've been waiting for him to play tower tactics liberation since I saw hafu play it! I've been loving it. Hope he actually does play it.
should definitely download the mod that makes the game faster makes videos much easier to watch
One day i wont get a headache from all the zooming in and out randomly... one day
Obviously Roger Federer should have played badminton.
2 minutes in... Oh great, now I need to go listen to Radar Love, lol
I can be a filthy animal depending on my mood lol
Northernlion looks at chat, The game!
We need more rogue tower videos egg boy
So much early branching... This one is going to be very difficult I think.
Put more respect on teslas and you'll never lose again
"Tezla coil"
I just tried to explain how to solve a rubix cube to my crossed neighbor, and, somehow, it was hard than rouge tower
Anyone else find this game easy asf on single lane when you play it
yup
+2 fatboy slim reference. sick reference, bro. Your references are out of control.
Yesssss more rogue tower ❤❤❤
Worst arguments all time my dude for not keeping the code hahaha
I gotta catch him playing this game live, Gotta get me some doubter points. :D
*nose twitch* Listen, you absolute PHILISTINE in chat right now. OH YOU WANNA GO.
Let's look at the chat logs.
NL is the best
What is the point of saving a ton of gold and then only placing towers in a panic once the wave actually starts? Couldn't he get so much more value if he placed towers first so they actually had time to do damage instead of placing them half or 3/4 through the wave once he realizes hes going to be overrun?
(Hopefully) constructive criticism - I love the rogue tower videos but the snap zoom in / snap zoom out really kills me
DOPAMINE LEVELS INCREASING. SEROTONIN OVERLOAD.
MAXIMUM NUT
Where is my SAP you piece
Planes eat ogres why does he hate planes
Who needs strategy
Some random stuff.
Yeah, the guys that Zombie Oogie spits out are shielded. It's pretty important to remove the shields from him and have some more shield damage after that.
The problem wasn't buying too many towers. It was not using them effectively. Now, the map was really bad and I might have restarted that one early when I saw so many branches, but NL really didn't play it effectively I think.
19:30 based nl with multiple wives
I'm very upset that chat clearly aren't screeching to take lookouts enough. Any run without early lookouts is a run that makes me sad.
What do lookouts do?
@@LINKedup101 they "target" one enemy at a time, and then everything that hits that target gets the lookouts damage and crit chance added to it. They're brilliant, especially in combination with the upgrade that gives -1 base damage for +level% crit chance. They also synergise really well with universities, since they add their damage to the lookout too, basically letting you double up (and more with crits) on the bonusss from universities
Of all the ballista + 1 other type of tower achievements, ballista + lookout is probably the easiest imo.
Tfw I won with
Poison sprayer
Flame thrower
Shredder
(These 3 always clustered with the relevant DOT perks. E.g. +50% burn damage and increase burn damage per second to 50/80/etc., Also poison slowing)
Radar (mostly HP damage leveling with mild anti-armor buffing)
Particle cannon highly upgraded shield damage
A maze of slightly upgraded ballistae and encampments near the tower to catch survivors and speedsters
Mana banks out the ass
I still don't understand how he lost the first run against. Shield Oogie wasn't even dead yet nor at his tower?
Zombie Oogie lets out like 5 fast little guys when he's at low health. Those shot toward his tower and obliterated it in like a second.
@@lazlohiggins Sad!
I need this for phone
Ramen is never not an enjoyable topic.
ew 2 teslas at the same point
Please stop destroying your scroll wheel sir it's damaging my eye holes
omg you threw out a fuckin pax skin... god damn . oh well i traded bit coins for heroin back when it was 400 a coin .
havregrød er bedst lavet med vand og nydes mest uden noget lige som ens kaffe
God, NL is not good at rogue tower. He will only get better from here though.
before 1 hour
Balista + lookout = all you need
it legitimately is. It's also great for learning how to play ballista only
hay NL you should play genshin. its like slay the spire and ftl.
when is the "it takes two" episode 3?
How long until NL reads the top right to see he can shift click to place multiple towers? Also any chance of more pokemon showdown soon?
Also quick tip for the houses: You can place siphons around them for 100 and the price doesnt increase rather than increasing the cost of the ballista for minimal damage. Quite useful when houses are in trash locations
he literally did it at the start of this run
You can't place anything other than offensive towers near houses, you won't get money.
*And he literally shift clicked in the first minute of the video, this comment is entirely cap
First?
Elden ringgggg
When your feelings about the streamer parallel his feelings about Ricky Gervais. I find NL to be so insufferably blue-pilled now that I can't even watch.
You want him to be more racist or something
@@MajorasWrath1 Lol. What a response. He's probably racist enough. He's free to be who he wants to be I just can't watch anymore. I prefer to watch people who are more innocuous or I agree with on more things. It's sort of like trying to watch a movie that's too illogical or inconsistent or gets the science wrong too much. It breaks my immersion. I'd say I'm the one that changed probably, not NL. It's just sad because I used to watch all of his Isaac content.
The Ricky Gervais comment is probably a perfect example. I'm just trying to watch him play a nice tower defense game and then he drops one of the most NPC, corporate, blue-pilled takes about Ricky Gervais. Basically, "I liked him until he started being too concerned about censorship." Someone like Retromation I find more appealing because he doesn't drop random takes like that. I just check in on NL occasionally now to see if I still feel the same way.
Bro, you cry about Ricky Gervais, but love Seth Rogan. Bad take.
59:31
That’s true but only if u actually upgrade them 🤡