MY WHEELS AND TIRES
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Some have asked me to share details about my wheels and tires. I figured I'd answer this question with its own video. Here's what I have, what I've tried, and what's next...
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I just upgraded from Sumitomo HTR Z III's to PS4S on my Unitronic stage 1+ GTI and it's night and day. The pilot sports 4 is an incredible tire. It's quiet, grips amazingly, and is so comfortable. Highly recommend grabbing a set next time they are on sale!
Thanks! I plan to get a set next year. I'll burn-down the Firehawks this year.
Nice and honest review! Have been running the Conti SportContact 5 on my GTI, good tire but I will try the Michelin Pilot 4s next, read a lot of good reviews about them. Am also running the Nogaros for the summer, and the original 17 inch (!) Brooklyns with the Conti Wintercontact 5 (compulsory to have genuine snow tire over here in Germany, all-seasons not allowed here, too much of a comprise..).
Thanks for your comments. I'd run a winter tire if my area saw much of a winter. Thanks for visiting.
I've been watching your videos since I found your channel with your three year ownership update videos. They have been beyond helpful, and I'm elated that I am going to be picking up a 2017 GTI Sport 6MT with LP & PP in Carbon Steel Gray, with 37K miles, one owner, no damage/accidents, that looks absolutely perfect. I went and inspected the car and put a deposit on it and will be picking it up next week. The car was on OEM Pirelli tires that I presume were the original set as they are worn out. Already ordered a set of Michelin Pilot A/S 3+ thanks to a sale Costco was having.
I am probably going to keep the car stock completely stock for about a year, then I will most likely go Stage 2 with EQT's tunes for COBB, get a downpipe and intake, lower the car with some springs, and maybe get some lighter wheels with summer tires or refinish the Nogaros in a different color like you. I'd probably also get some sort of aftermarket dogbone mount solution as many recommend, and perhaps the Helix system.
I'm very excited to start my journey with this car, as it's my first cool car haha.
Congratulations on your purchase! Bookmark my website, StealthGTI.com, for a list of my mods to give you some ideas. Thanks for posting.
@@StealthGTI haha, did that already. I was reading up on your experiences with the helix sub.
Glad to stumble upon your channel! Love the look of the painted Nogaros; maybe even more than the black 18” Pretorias that came on the 2019 Rabbit.
Can you remember your gunmetal grey paint code?
Thanks, Kyle! The finish is a powder coating by Prismatic Powders called "Lazer Diamond." See more at www.prismaticpowders.com/shop/powder-coating-colors/PMB-4156/lazer-diamond. Thanks for visiting!
Learning quite a bit from your channel, keep it up! I have a 2021 GTI SE DSG and just upgraded Michelin Pilot Sport 4s 225-40-18. Big, big difference in ride quality, comfort and stability! Hoping to get 25K miles out of them!
Great to hear! I wound up giving the Indy 500's to my daughter. My AS3+ are nearing their end of service life. I cannot believe they've gone so far already. Must've been the nearly back-to-back coast-to-coast trips. HAHA! I plan to replace them with Michelin Pilot All-Season 4s in November, then get a set of the 4S's for a second set of wheels next spring for summer use only. Thanks for visiting.
Same experience with the Falken Azenis. Loved them, grips and handles well just doesn't last long. On General Gmax Rs now, i would say it's close to FA but lasts longer. Haven't really tried the Indys, was going to but found out it's tad expensive than the Gmax. Thank you for sharing your experience with your set up. (Sold the Nogaros for cheap, didn't want to coz i loved them but needed the money had an emergency)
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Thank you so much :-) I was thinking about those firehawks but living in Michigan we have cooler wet days during the summer sometimes. Good information and I just quizzed my friend about the pilots and he said he uses pilot super sports but any of them are great!
NZ - I doubt a "cooler wet day" in the summer will hurt the Firehawks. I've driven mine in the 20's without too much of an issue. They warm-up to around 60-70 once the steel belts are exercised a bit. At 13 degrees, my tires still warmed to 53 degrees and still felt adequate. I'm sure that's not ideal, but they didn't seem to harden-up the way a set of Azenis or RE-71Rs would have. However, up there, The Firehawks certainly would be a summer-only tire.
@@StealthGTI thanks for that extra bit of insight. I know that tires warm up and I know that summer Tires tend to get too hard and winter tires tend to get too soft when they're not in their designated season but I didn't realize how much the temp can increase in some tires.
I just put a set of 17s Pilot A/S3+ on my Sportwagen ans they are awesome. They grip like summer tires actually.
YES! That's something I didn't expect. Thanks for visiting.
Have you considered/ Why haven't you tried 235/40R18s? I love the michelins (ran them on old '08 BMW 135i) and just got them for my GTI in stock size and wish I would have purchased the 235s. The only downsides I can think of are cost and maybe road noise and slightly worse snow traction. The dealership had cheap 235s on it originally and I hadn't noticed but they definitely filled out the wheel well much better.
I have considered them. In addition to what you present, which are not terrible concerns for me, would be minor recalibration requirement for the odometer/speedometer and increased weight/drag, which would impact MPGs and acceleration to a small degree. If you look closely, you'll notice that the Michelin is a tad wider than the Firestone. With the narrower Firestone, I'd be inclined to get a 235/40R18 to give the wheel a little protection. Did you hear the metal-to-metal contact when I set the Firestone wheel back on the "table?" That was from the back of the wheel tapping the edge of my table. The tire and the wheel are about the same width; so, there is no protection for the wheel. That's not a problem with the Michelin because it's wider with a protective "lip" along the rim. So, the width of the 225/40R18 Michelin is perfect, and so might be the 235/40R18, with respect to protecting the wheel from accidents. That's just my casual observation. Thanks for visiting.
I like your wheels so much more than my 2018 7.5 GTI MT. Gunmetal gray is nice! I subscribed! I live in central Florida. My first GTI. I love it! I want to get a tune. Not sure If I should wait until the warranty is done.
Thanks for the sub! Whether to wait for the warranty to expire or start modding first depends on the length of your warranty and how much you drive your car. I guess your pocketbook and tolerance for BS is a factor, too. My warranty was done in two years due to high mileage. So, I started modding relatively early, work on my car at home, or take it to a specialty shop. My wife's 2018 Jetta is driven just 6000 miles per year. It will be under warranty for the entire six year warranty period. Therefore, her car will stay stock and be serviced by the dealer. So far, that's only been for annual oil changes. :-) What do you think is right for you?
I’ve tried Bridgestone drive guard which isn’t a bad tire either I’ve got drive guard and as3+ on mark 6 and mark 7.5 GTI
Very nice! Thanks for sharing.
Funny I also have the same sport but white here in Miami so I guess it was imported huh
Thanks for visiting, Andy! I don't think I understand your "imported" comment. All GTIs in the U.S. are imported from Mexico; and the Nogaro wheels are made in the Czech Republic; most of the car parts are from Mexico, Germany, and beyond.
I might have the only night blue metallic GTI Autobahn with OE Nogaro wheels. Any others? If I could do it again I would have bought European OE Brescia wheels. It is what came on the GTI Clubsport.
It's always good to find a way to be just a little different from the herd. There are a few HOT wheels out there that GTI fans love to get. Don't get me wrong, they look great! But, the more everyone tries to be different, the more everyone winds up being the same. HAHA! Not too many chasing the Nogaro look. :-)
I always wondered why you had Nogaros on your car.
As you say, here in the UK they’re standard fit on a GTD.
Yes, super-common in the UK; perhaps becoming rare in the U.S. Thanks for visiting.
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Goofily enough, I have the Michelin 4S on my MK6 GTI and the A/S 3+ on my S2000. Michelin seems to be a really great tire, although a bit expensive.
I noticed the expense, too. Today, I learned these tires are made in the U.S. That could explain the cost. But they're also REALLY good tires! Thanks for visiting.
I like this wheel but I don’t think this will fit my 2020 GTI ?
I don't see why they wouldn't fit your car. Both yours and mine are similar models. I think they'd be a direct bolt-on. Thanks for visiting!
18" wheels really have no business on the street, particularly if you live in a place with crummy roads. I'm tired of buying new wheels when they are bent beyond the ability to repair. If I had to do it over again I would have pulled my 18's off when I got my GTI and put on a set of 17" BBS SR in gunmetal or silver. Better looking wheel, stronger by design, a lot less likely to take damage, and the considerably lighter weight is like getting free horsepower and a big brake kit installed.
I must live with good roads, though many local enthusiasts would disagree. I bent two wheels on a crater in the road a couple years ago. They straightened just fine and I continue to drive on them. I considered the SRs. But, at the time, no one could confirm that they'd fit over the PP brakes. Oh, well. I'm happy with what I'm running now. Thanks for visiting.
That's a good point. 17s are fine for most cars. Just choose whichever tire works for your climate and driving habits.
I love your channel. Can you make a vid about the common ‘my mk7 is so stiff my back hurts’ comment? My mk7 is way less comfortable than my mk6 and yes the tires are aired down and there’s no suspension block in there. People say fire choice has a lot to do with it
Casey - I cannot comment on that because I have not experienced it. Without experience, I cannot address how to overcome it. Sorry.
Your ride won't really get much softer but the "crashing" through imperfections is lessened if you go for 17in Wheels over the stock 18 inch wheels. I am a rather lean person and I have trouble with my seats being too firm. I believe that is part of the issue with many people. When I picked my car up in Georgia and drove back to Michigan, it initially fit like a glove just like the cars I test drove and fell in love with... but I couldn't go more than a couple hours before my ass was hurting and getting numb. I had to sit on a sweater, shifting my weight, putting a fist under my thigh, whatever I could do to keep driving then went and bought a thin little cushion for my driver seat haha. I'm also tall and appreciate the lumbar support so I can't have a very thick cushion because then the lumbar support is too low/ineffective. The seats being too firm is really my only complaint about the Mk7.5 but driving down to my grandma's for hours away or regular hour and a half trips to nearby cities are totally fine with just a thin dining room chair foam pad from Ikea. GAME CHANGER! I did get the Autobahn and I feel like the leather seats in my car are slightly more firm than the stock plaid as well. That could be the leather itself. On a long cruise it is Pleasant to have DCC. I have very little experience in the GTI without the DCC so perhaps that's the difference between our cars because Comfort mode is noticeably softer than sport mode and I understand the base GTI has slightly firmer than my "normal" setting but not as firm is my "sport" suspension setting 🤷♂️
do you know the weight of nogaro rims?
They're a little heavy, being OEM wheels that are built tough for our roads: 23.76 lbs. Thanks for visiting.
What pressure do you inflate your tires to?
The sticker in the door says 37 psi; so, I inflate to 37 psi... COLD pressures, BTW.
@@StealthGTI The tire manufacturer's value on the tire sidewall is the maximum the tire can be inflated to safely. Increasing tire pressure will improve tire life mostly and turn-in responsiveness somewhat, but there are trade-offs to doing this.
@@MV-qm9ne - As a former autocrosser, I'm aware of the trade-offs. IMO, the benefits to inflating beyond VW's specifications do not outweigh the benefits of keeping tire pressures at 37.
What about 18x8.5” ET45 on 225/40 R18 tires. Would that be good?
I think 8.5" is as wide as I'd want to go with a 225 tire. Offset looks good. Thanks for visiting!
@@StealthGTI thank you for the reply! Wouldn’t it stretch if I put 18x8.5” on 225/40 R18? My current wheels are stock 18x7.5” for 2016 Volkswagen GTI autobahn.
@@Vosser - I think it's close. Some tires are flush with my 18x7.5" stockers. So, I'm inclined to think 8.5" is getting to the point of stretch, but not to hazardous amounts. The Tire Rack says that 225/40R18 will fit on as wide as a 9" wheel. But I don't think I'd go that far. Personally, I wouldn't go more than 8" just because it takes just one slip to drop a wheel on its face without enough tire to protect it.
@@StealthGTI ah makes sense! Lastly what if I do 18x8.5” on 2016 GTI with 225/40 R18 and once they wear out I can move it up to 235/40 R18 with 18x8.5”? Do you think that’ll be alright or will that rub too much against the fender and other stuff? Thanks a lot
@@Vosser - That, I don't know. I haven't studied alternate tire fitments on this car since I've been satisfied with the stock size. I'm sure it's discussed regularly at VWVortex.com and GolfMk7.com.
How are indy500 in the wet? I'm debating between indy500 and falken fk510
On paper, the Falkens look like the better tire, less expensive, too. The Indy's ride well in the wet, but I cannot honestly say that I've truly tested their wet grip at any sort of limit. Be sure to share your experience here when you find out. Thanks for visiting.
I was correct in my speculation about the Falkens being a better tire than the Indys. Check out this TireRack comparison: www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartDisplay.jsp?ttid=235
How often you do a tires rotation?
I rotate every 10,000 miles. I should do it every 5k, but I'm naughty. ;-) There's a saying about tires: "Rotate or replace." I seldom wear out a set of tires before I decide to try something else. Thanks for visiting.
StealthGTI I rotate every 5,000 miles. Also noticed after rotate the second times when hit 10,000 miles. I started to have some road noise with the tires
LMAO about Murphy law when you have spares for damage replacement. (i need to get spares)
HAHA! Yeah. Murphy's Law applies to my dump runs, too: There's never a screw in my tires if I check them after a visit; but I'll have a puncture a few days later when I don't check. ;-)
i stopped watching..when u talk about all season...its never an option on a gti cmon...
It's a GTI, not an RS6. ;-) Thanks for visiting.
Rok Krmelj Are you serious?
I'm too busy to go to autocross at this point and it's my daily driver. I fully intend to get a winter set of tires this year but my stock all seasons were very confidentthis past summer- spring as long as I didn't intentionally push the car.
His personal experience is a great resource for someone wanting to understand their car better and absorb some general information as well as great for us wanting to actually use the vehicle beyond its sportiness. Yes I want stickier tires but I don't want them to be ridiculously short-lived. I absorb videos before I go invest in tires because I don't have the space or the want to spend a bunch of money on multiple sets of tires. After these all seasons I probably will go with summer and winter setup but some people don't really have the option when they live where they can't store spare sets.
Live and Let Live, to each their own.
@@StealthGTI 😆 don't we wish... more RS3 or TTRS if I was going full Indulgence Sans the practicality though 💩