How a Snowman Changed MH Speedrunning Forever

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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    Speedruns
    Fatalis 2'10'': • The Fastest Fatalis Ki...
    Alatreon 0'29'': • Alatreon Killed in Und...
    Behemoth 0'53'': • The Fastest Extreme Be...
    AT Nami 0'42'': • Gunlance Was All Along...
    Temp F.Jang 0'28'': • Evade Extender is The ...
    Shara: 2'20'' Solo: • The Fastest Shara Ishv...
    Bv Vaal Hazak 1'09'' Solo: • Blackveil Vaal Hazak 2...
    Funa's Alatreon: • MHWI/PS5 明けの死星 アルバトリオン...
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Комментарии • 132

  • @Solfonix
    @Solfonix Год назад +178

    You’d think the speed running scene was optimized and we knew what was the best strategy for anything, we were wrong. All hail the snowman grind. Also the fact that gunlance is the weapon for the job is perfect.

  • @Wetopie
    @Wetopie Год назад +66

    So after playing with this. I found the best gunlance is the taroth buster sleep. You can max it out to get a whopping 990 sleep on it (on top of it being a normal 7 ). With just one it has so far put any monster i have tried it with in about 5 to 8 hits (without using apothecary mantle). Meaning with 4 people running this gunlance and a apothecary mantle, you should be able to put any monster to sleep instantly. And it should add an extra 30,000 damage as well. With bombardier 5 thats 161,356 (almost 1 shotting the fatalis territory)

    • @rilodasilo
      @rilodasilo 8 месяцев назад +5

      I guess I'll have to farm custom upgrade materials again 🙃

    • @ShukakuTheCrazy1
      @ShukakuTheCrazy1 8 месяцев назад +2

      Oh no, not another taroth run. I hate the rng on that one

  • @hen_thigh
    @hen_thigh Год назад +47

    I should be sleeping, but I'm willing to put aside 13 minutes just for this. Totally worth it man.

  • @crisis8v88
    @crisis8v88 Год назад +30

    Thank you for making this guide! I've adored this tactic ever since I saw your Vaal Hazak run. I use it all the time in solo casually, ususlly to wake up a sleeping monster once they retreat to their lair. Any monster with a 12 second trip is also enough time for a 2 bomb wyrmstake cannon. Something else that helped me learn the trick early on is that the player model will look like they're swinging the gunlance in random directions while shelling, even when firing straight ahead. I initially thought these motions needed aim correction, but they don't. After the backhop, the only input needed is shell, shell, shell, kaboom!
    Regarding the model, Kushala is the most consistent for landing the trick, but there are several models that work at varying evade extender levels. This is great for folks who want to play casually or play through a new character with gunlance. I use the White Knight model for endgame content, since it which works well enough with evade extender 3. It's not suitable for speedruns though, because there's some angles where it will fail while the Kushala model will succeed.

  • @LaguaMH
    @LaguaMH Год назад +219

    Hey guys table here ☠️

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад +89

      RUclips subs bullying my english since 1995

  • @Wetopie
    @Wetopie Год назад +18

    This is also hilarious against safi
    Edit: Safi at final stage will spam the kill move causing a guaranteed quest fail,

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer Год назад +14

    that is two times a bug made gunlance op in the series.
    autoguard in portable 3rd let it guard when it shouldn't be able to..
    it has been both a defensive overpowered mess and an offensive overpowered mess.

  • @berendmuller1794
    @berendmuller1794 Год назад +5

    okay but its insane that in the fatalis clip all the damage didnt even give any part breaks lmao

  • @ajoo6969
    @ajoo6969 Год назад +4

    My brain has been expanded, thank you masta deva for the gunlance enlightenment 🙏🙏

  • @nino3753
    @nino3753 10 месяцев назад +23

    But god forbid they can't allow you to ledge jump chain on Greatsword anymore.

  • @NineDorugreymon
    @NineDorugreymon Год назад +9

    Fatalis GL works pretty well for this too in my experience

    • @d1ssolv3r
      @d1ssolv3r 6 месяцев назад +1

      you just use the layered weapon for kushala, only the model matters for the length part

  • @rumiyano
    @rumiyano Год назад +2

    I was in my Stronghold, crafting potions and stuff for tomorrow's Brel Hard release before I logged off today. I thought I was going crazy hearing the SH theme in the vid after logging off!

  • @Angels-Haven
    @Angels-Haven Год назад +3

    quality deva content, you love to see it

  • @TheLordGojira
    @TheLordGojira Год назад +2

    Ooooh, you need Kushala! I was wondering what I was doing wrong!

  • @kujojotarostandoceanman2641
    @kujojotarostandoceanman2641 Год назад +6

    And here I thought as a charge blade main 1000 damage Ultimate elemental slash is powerful

  • @TheLordGojira
    @TheLordGojira Год назад +5

    I don’t understand why TA rules can’t use at least slingers.

  • @WGzombie
    @WGzombie Год назад +25

    I've been using this exploit myself for a while now and it's super fun. You can do it with other GL models, but Kushala's is 100% best for it. Great video for sure! Time to send this to all my friends who are curious about this. Wish this exploit had a better name though, I've always called it "Stake Duplication" which is more accurate and way cooler than the "Snowman Glitch", hahah.

    • @crisis8v88
      @crisis8v88 Год назад

      Super Amped Wyrmstake Cannon ;)

    • @hyrda892
      @hyrda892 Год назад

      What other gunlance s are good for it? Is raging brachy a do able with it?

    • @WGzombie
      @WGzombie Год назад +1

      @@hyrda892 Raging Brachy has the absolute worst GL model. You should hop in the training area and spam stakes with various models, especially swapping from Kushala directly to Raging. The difference is genuinely insane

    • @Thefalseexperience
      @Thefalseexperience Год назад

      I understand the sake for doing this as a speedrun strat, but I genuinely don’t understand how someone can find this fun. I really like gunlance but this is just ridiculous.

    • @lukafireman
      @lukafireman Год назад

      @@Thefalseexperience If you're all about finding cool secrets and glitches and using them to your advantage, like a tinkerer, then this is fun.
      If you're all about challenges and skill, this will feel weird.

  • @TheCosmicAstro-
    @TheCosmicAstro- 10 месяцев назад +7

    Awesome video. But one question.
    You mentioned doing it solo.
    But how are you supposed to put a monster to sleep when youre alone and have to use the kushala gunlance?
    As far as i know, trying to add sleep via decorations wont work.
    And i know you can use traps for some monsters but monsters like fatalis, you cant.
    So how do i put fatalis to sleep while being alone?

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  10 месяцев назад +8

      You can use a gun and swap back at camp, or a sleep palico. But any form of cc works so u can use traps for monsters or headbreaks on fatalist. Or balista knockdowns. But definitly trickier than having a gunner with you

  • @oscarwhittlestone8923
    @oscarwhittlestone8923 7 месяцев назад

    @Wetopie
    For anyone who can't get it to work at all/consistently:
    Dragonseal Gunlance I and Dragonseal Gunlance II make it MUCH more consistent for me. With the armour skills and the 1-player setup in the video I can get it EVERY time. (These GL are via the Dragonbone Tree)
    But with the Kushala Daora GL I have only been able to do it 1 time. Maybe it's because I have the "Daora's Brigia". Not the "Icesteel Gunlance" (These GL are via the Blacksteel Tree)
    PS: I could be doing something wrong :P - Also my tests have been in the training room ONLY so far. Might change the result.

  • @bb90flow
    @bb90flow 6 месяцев назад +2

    hmmm is it fixed?? just tried in the training arena and it just added 3extra attacks not multiplied by 3

  • @duarteribeiro1520
    @duarteribeiro1520 Год назад +4

    What's the purpose of the Safi armor? Does the set bonus the damage, is it used to keep HP in heroics or just the best armor that isn't fatalis since you wouldn't want the Fatalis set bonus?

    • @zanbamon4162
      @zanbamon4162 Год назад +2

      I'm pretty sure its because Safi can have almost 100% Resentment uptime, while Challenger 7 with Fatalis doesn't work when the monster sleeps.

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад +6

      You got it, The most beneficial thing is that it keep you in heroics range without neededing to bomb yourself. Besides of that just the 25raw from resentment. Meanwhile 4p fatalis doesnt benefit you at all and Frostcraft does not apply to wyrmstake

  • @Empus_king_of_the_damned
    @Empus_king_of_the_damned Год назад

    I fell in love with the Gunlance back in the Days and still love it

  • @prso5587
    @prso5587 Год назад +1

    0:56 i love this part bcs it’s fucking true imagine goes from hbg/gs speedrun and ultra tryhard to get annhilated by a snowman and gunlance 😂

  • @Magnus2209
    @Magnus2209 Год назад

    who knows what else is out there. took a long time to discover the gunlance snowman thing.

  • @11---------
    @11--------- Месяц назад

    can this be done with just 2 mega barrels? im on ps5 and i cant get snowmen anymore.

  • @Cookie0fPower
    @Cookie0fPower Год назад

    Thank you for making this video. So cool.

  • @richardwagner6780
    @richardwagner6780 Год назад +3

    Thanks for the nice and informative video. Do we get an updated CB build vid after title update 5 drops?

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад +2

      Potentially yes but I dont want to promise anything since it will be a chore for me to open Rise.

  • @Wetopie
    @Wetopie Год назад +1

    I did find out that the gold rathian skin works as well

    • @ElusiveEliizer
      @ElusiveEliizer Год назад +2

      Yeah. Rathian GL with only evade extender 2 has been really reliable for me

  • @kevinguit15
    @kevinguit15 7 месяцев назад +2

    Wat mods are using for your char the heels and the big booba

  • @I3oo1ve
    @I3oo1ve Год назад +3

    If it only works with the Kushala GL does weapon transmog affect the weapon hitbox?

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад +5

      yeah we use Kushala layered and Fatalis gunlance since it has the Highest raw. A few more ''work'' as some comments added but Kushala is by far the best and most consistent option.

  • @rulofmg
    @rulofmg 8 месяцев назад

    man this Lost ark soundtrack brings back memories

  • @Ezraq80
    @Ezraq80 Год назад +1

    Yep , Totally worth it

  • @michaelpike473
    @michaelpike473 Год назад +1

    Sometimes It work even with kinsect powder

  • @NotumFeed
    @NotumFeed Год назад +2

    Devil Jho(skin) works the same way

    • @ReelBigFan
      @ReelBigFan Год назад +2

      About to go farm for the Kush layered weapon to confirm, but did some testing on the Pickle skin and it seems it might be slightly shorter. I had to take a small step forward with EE3 for the stake to proc both bombs + the snowman in the training room. Still, longer than the Fatalis skin and many others which requires you to use EE2 instead.
      Update: Kush is for sure longer. The D. Jho skin is a decent alternative for those that haven't gotten the kush skin and want to use EE3 instead of 2. It's worth getting the Kush skins as it's much more consistent.

  • @helicoptertposingmethfrogp7800
    @helicoptertposingmethfrogp7800 17 дней назад

    I'm late but can you do it without safi armor?

  • @magmafeline8239
    @magmafeline8239 4 месяца назад

    My brain sees anti shara ishvalda weopon

  • @ruge.
    @ruge. Год назад

    The thumbnail gave me thought that for a second I thought y'all shrinked down.
    But what would fit more Is that you all once were one individual that in a cartoony way got cut in various cubic pieces and each became one small version of them.

  • @kitstorm5326
    @kitstorm5326 9 месяцев назад

    how come ur shells don't blow up the bomb? is it just out of range? if so, what is the perfect distance. I notice one hop, but is that with EE or not? sry for the string of questions!

  • @tipitachibana5493
    @tipitachibana5493 Год назад +1

    GS MAINS: “my life has been a lie for 999MRanks”

  • @Terminarch
    @Terminarch 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wait, World DID get a patch recently. Is this still a thing?

  • @hunterlg13
    @hunterlg13 Год назад +9

    I knew there was a reason I haven't seen any runs on Rise.
    I really have to try hard to enjoy it myself. I'm not very good at Rise, and I try to play like I would in world (not wirebug spam/counter spam) and it isn't very rewarding for me.
    Love watching your insanely techical runs though. It's good shite.❤

  • @luxr6107
    @luxr6107 Год назад +3

    How do I get the snowman on ps4?! Someone please advise, been researching for weeks for an answer

    • @crisis8v88
      @crisis8v88 Год назад +4

      Snowmen are from the multi-day events (like the Appreciation festival). Completing event research quests gives a few snowmen and you can trade event tickets for 10 snowmen each at the melder.

    • @luxr6107
      @luxr6107 Год назад +2

      @@crisis8v88 thank you bro, You’re the only person who replied and gave me an answer. I’ve been asking this question so much but everyone seems to gatekeep lol so weird. Thank you so much

  • @sdkings7128
    @sdkings7128 7 месяцев назад

    I've just tried it with stygian zinogre gunlance tree and it worked for me too

  • @iotu7776
    @iotu7776 Год назад +1

    Hi dude, is it possible to do this without the Assassin’s hood? I mean, not a one shot but nearly

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад +6

      Yeah of course, the assassins mantle just gives extra 50% damage. so for example instead a full burst of 30.000 you would do 20.000!

  • @YukiNagi7714
    @YukiNagi7714 9 месяцев назад

    this works with EE2 + Barioth Layered skin too. Been using it for a while now.

  • @ClareAmel
    @ClareAmel 11 месяцев назад +1

    this game is truly cooked

  • @zanbamon4162
    @zanbamon4162 Год назад +1

    Is there a optimal palico gadget for status buildup?

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад +3

      Yes the meolotov. Highest status application happens at level 4 because it has no other tools than just attacking. the coral has some decent application which is what i use solo.

  • @CallMeMitochondria
    @CallMeMitochondria 7 месяцев назад

    So is kushala layered required? And also can i do this with two people?

  • @FiliIsHere
    @FiliIsHere Год назад +1

    What's that Layered Armor from 0:20 to 1:16? Is it from a mod?

  • @ghuibul
    @ghuibul 3 месяца назад

    can you use any other layered weapon or only the kushala one?

  • @hibber25
    @hibber25 7 месяцев назад

    Does it have to be the kushala gl, or could it have the layered weapon over it and still work?

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  7 месяцев назад

      Its kushala layered, u should use fatty gl for most damage

  • @TSCspeedruns
    @TSCspeedruns Год назад

    Nice video Deva😍.

  • @osirisavra1301
    @osirisavra1301 Год назад +1

    Classic Deva dropping a bomb before the end of the video 🤣

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад +1

      No offense, just there is factual information that has to be respected by both parties.

    • @osirisavra1301
      @osirisavra1301 Год назад

      @@IDeVaste I truly miss this community

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад

      @@osirisavra1301 You come back at MH6? Need some High tech Aerial LS scripts

    • @osirisavra1301
      @osirisavra1301 Год назад

      @@IDeVaste I will play the game but won't run probably,very time consuming to make a decent run.

  • @Rhiorrha
    @Rhiorrha 10 месяцев назад

    Did they patch this on pc? I can get 62 hits, but no repeated explosions. I get like 40 extra hits from the wyrmstake "countdown ticks"...but I'm not using thorn pods. (Are those on every map?)

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  10 месяцев назад +1

      If u have 4 objects 62 hits sound about right. What do you mean with repeated explosions? A wyrmstake is 15 hits for each objects. And no unforrunatly not all maps or monsters drop thorn poss

    • @Rhiorrha
      @Rhiorrha 10 месяцев назад

      @@IDeVaste I only use a snowman and 2 lbb. I've seen videos where there are what look like 3 or 4 consecutive barrel bomb explosions over the course of like 1 1/2 seconds instead of 1 big explosion. Looks like something Michael Bay directed.

  • @primecalibur
    @primecalibur Год назад +3

    TA wiki is easier *freestyle copium* 🤭

  • @alphatoomega4558
    @alphatoomega4558 6 месяцев назад

    does this still work if you layer your weapon to be kushala?

  • @crimdawgx
    @crimdawgx Год назад

    Sleep Great sword + GL when.

  • @adrianmedina3508
    @adrianmedina3508 Год назад

    How can i craft kushala gl? I beat all game even fatalis and i don't have it😅

  • @gouranga1982
    @gouranga1982 Год назад

    Could you lay down drugged meat etc for extra objects?

  • @martinerhard8447
    @martinerhard8447 Год назад

    what about kulve taroth sleep GL so you can solo set a monster to sleep?

  • @BilliamTorpedo
    @BilliamTorpedo Год назад

    Mh6 can't come soon enough, I didn't even know snowmens were useful but they were silly so I liked using em. Rise doesn't have any of that stuff, although they do have dogs so that's sick. Dogs in mh6 Capcom, maybe not to ride though

  • @johnrollins9826
    @johnrollins9826 Год назад

    Thanks for the video, but what is the build that goes with it? Does somebody know best gear and decoration?

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад +3

      Since it doesn't crit max out Raw skills like attackboost/resentment/Heroics, in addition bombardier for bomb damage. 3 Safi 2 Fatty pieces, but you can watch one of our runs linked in description, builds shown at end.

    • @johnrollins9826
      @johnrollins9826 Год назад +1

      @@IDeVaste thanks for the quick answer and my mistake, you already told most of it in the video.

  • @ghost_ilamas9615
    @ghost_ilamas9615 Год назад

    Wait what do you mean by 3 players? Do you need 3 players to tank the wyrmstake?

  • @dumdum5609
    @dumdum5609 9 месяцев назад +2

    Just curious has anyone tried it with wyrmstake blast? How much damage does it do?

  • @boltreaverastalos8310
    @boltreaverastalos8310 Год назад

    I want you to do mhw cb speed run again. I'm also burnout on Sunbreak. I Recently start a new character in World again.

  • @kilihito19
    @kilihito19 Год назад

    i use the kushala gl, ee3, put the bomb n snowman, hop back n as soon as i shell, the bomb explodes bcs my weapon touch it, im still confused about how to do it properly, anyone can help? (i havent reach fatalis yet so im using the actual kushala gl not the layered, is it different?)

    • @wolf-wm2zs
      @wolf-wm2zs Год назад

      I'm facing the same problem, have you found a solution yet? I think it's because kushala's gunlance is a long shelling type gunlance which has increase range on the shelling.

    • @alvisdotexe
      @alvisdotexe 10 месяцев назад

      Long gunlance has a longer range on the shells which will cause this to happen. You're going to have to use a different shelling type and layer the Kushala GL on top.
      Fatalis is best overall because of insane raw and Normal 7, but if you can't get that you can use another Normal 7 or Wide 7 GL like Safi with normal shelling 2 awakening, Taroth Buster Sleep, Stygian Zinogre, etc.

  • @cato1190
    @cato1190 Месяц назад

    Wyrm is pronounced like worm.

  • @Thundah_Dome
    @Thundah_Dome 11 месяцев назад

    How did yall get him to lay down? Or is that something the snowman does?

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  11 месяцев назад +1

      Sleep/Paralysis Bullets of a bowgun

  • @maddog3467
    @maddog3467 10 месяцев назад

    Do you have a build video for this

  • @karasuem1
    @karasuem1 12 дней назад

    Does it work today?

  • @timoschmunck3561
    @timoschmunck3561 Год назад +1

    Is there a alternativ for the Assassin Mantle? I don't have the mantle

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад +7

      Evasion mantle which boosts youre damage by 30% would be the closest to it. Unfortunatly you can only obtain assasins on PC via saveediting since capcom removed the quest. (Probably ubisoft partnership ran out)

  • @Gxxdzilla
    @Gxxdzilla Год назад +2

    :) nice

  • @bossshark4358
    @bossshark4358 8 месяцев назад

    Do you need evade extender level 3?

  • @Clapkreag
    @Clapkreag 6 месяцев назад

    Does this glitch work on playstation?

  • @HammboneBob
    @HammboneBob 7 месяцев назад

    WORT! WORT! WORT!

  • @AngelYt-xs6yy
    @AngelYt-xs6yy Год назад

    Holy shit fatalis is sleeping lmao?

  • @ArmoredSoup
    @ArmoredSoup 9 месяцев назад +1

    How does gunlance vs hbg fair in a solo match up with out exploitations?

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  9 месяцев назад

      Hbg solo fastest is 3:42 or so, without the GL exploit you need like 7 minutes probably

  • @AfkWent2Dab
    @AfkWent2Dab Год назад

    Can I get a carry please haha Fatalis a bully 😂

  • @billybeans8628
    @billybeans8628 11 месяцев назад

    What’s the build though?

  • @roplay3872
    @roplay3872 18 дней назад

    I need this tutorial in spanish xD

  • @bobbywalker2980
    @bobbywalker2980 4 месяца назад

    Does this still work bro ? I'm so excited to Try this lol

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  4 месяца назад +1

      yes both gunlance and palico exploit still work

  • @lukafireman
    @lukafireman Год назад

    Change title to how a duplication glitch changed glitch speedrunning in MHW.
    I think it makes more sense.

  • @valhalla_1129
    @valhalla_1129 Год назад

    Heheh
    wormsteak :)

  • @kingjames4886
    @kingjames4886 6 месяцев назад

    and you use exclusive items that can no longer be obtained!
    wonderful1!

  • @corruptedmineral
    @corruptedmineral 7 месяцев назад

    is this fixed? i hope not

  • @user-tk1jw5nn5s
    @user-tk1jw5nn5s 7 месяцев назад

    Donc, la lance canon très forte mais on est obligé d'endormir le monstre

  • @harrychrizt
    @harrychrizt Год назад

    i shared this playstyle to telling players GL is the strongest DPS weapon in MHW about 5 years ago in MHW FB Group,, stop playing since about it.. in FB we disscused about this build n some ppl demanded a video about it,, but at the time, there isnt many videos of MHW build on internet,, funa is not the 1st to use it solo, but mybe he is the 1st to upload it on youtube, but im glad now there is many videos to proof that thesis..

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  Год назад

      If thats true you should have shared it to some speedrunners. Because back then it would be even more impressive

    • @intensellylit4100
      @intensellylit4100 7 месяцев назад

      Me when I lie

  • @kaioken3600
    @kaioken3600 8 месяцев назад +1

    Drop the BUILD for general use, not speed run use.

    • @IDeVaste
      @IDeVaste  8 месяцев назад +1

      There is no such difference

  • @giovanni545
    @giovanni545 Год назад

    Revelation 12:17
    King James Version
    17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

  • @kingjames4886
    @kingjames4886 6 месяцев назад

    unbelievable they didn't fix this... lazy cash-hungry devs...