It would be more interesting if you tried to guess without the fps counter and just the feel of the PCs because imo i don't think most ppl will play games while constantly looking at their FPS
Hope you guys enjoy this one? A lot of time went into building the three systems and the blind test, but I think it actually provided some really interesting results! 👀
@@abdalhayalbanna4247 lol. What’s the point? Tbh even this video was pretty useless. Amd will be exactly the same. What’s definitely interesting is blind tests.
Echoing what others said, this could have been really interesting but wasn’t. The test should have been blind, without fps counter visible. Only that would actually be indicative of “can you really tell a difference during regular gameplay with your eyes and input response time.”
Ive never seen anything above 120fps. I usually game at 60 but i saw 120 at a friend's house and it was a little smoother. I can't imagine anything smoother than that. Whats 300fps like?
I'm going to get a PC, next week, that will be about £3,000. I'm doing this because I've had this same PC for 7 years now... I'm an experienced 3D model artist and have been working with games engines for about 22 years now but I've also started live streaming. It's going to be an investment for the next 5 years or so.
shoulda done a full on blind test. fps is a dead giveaway. a BLIND test would of really shown if you could notice the difference in the actual gameplay and graphics between a $1500 TO $3000 system.
you looking at the numbers instead of just playing and focusing on your own perception renders this video practically worthless... you would have had a fantastic video, if you would have focused on the _experience_ and not just looking at the numbers...
Ok ok ok, for 1500$ you can get ddr5 ram in there especially for that price. And for 2400-2500 you can. Go 4080 super and got 3k you can easily fit in a 4090 at MSRP
If Im spending that kinda money, the PC should look nice aswell. My new PC is 3k, 400€ of it just being stuff to make it look good like cable mod cables, nice fans for about 270€. The GPU is 200-300 more than the cheapest models aswell, since I went for an Aurorus Master. So essentically, you could get the same pc for like 2.4-2.5k performance wise, but then it wouldnt be looking nice lol
@@Felled-angel This is just the tower. You still need kb/m, monitor or tv. KB/M combo are around $30. There are plenty $20-$30 gaming/fps mice and $20-$30 mechanical keyboards to choose from.
Better if you used the AMD 7800X3D with the RTX4080 Super, there would be no doubt which would be the best system. Motherboard, I prefer primarily MSI followed by ASU. Not too keen on GB.
Loved the video easy Sub(: P.S. Frame counter was definitely cheat codes for that poor 4070 super 😂 But was crazy seeing the 4070TiS keeping up well with the 4080s so definitely no complaints about the FPS Counter(: Just bought a 4070TiSuper and it is easily the best GPU I’ve ever owned very fast very snappy and really cool to be able to play in 4k. It handles 1440p like a BOSS ESports like a Boss as well!
Can someone explain to me why people don’t test this stuff in 4K. I would love to see somebody test horizon zero dawn or cyberpunk 2077 4K and at as close to 120 FPS you can get.
The Cyberpunk 2077 video at the end of the dual wide-screen monitor is the same video to show RT and been seen in other videos - you didn't test the game you just used video footage.
Yes, mid range. In this video, its exactly in the middle. Just how a 2k can be a "budget" PC. Just because its not YOUR budget, doesnt mean it aint budget. Its a subjective definition. Especially if most high end pcs are around 3k-4k so 2k is mid range either way :D
Honestly, I just built a new system around the 4070 Ti Super. I started with a 4080 Super and spec'd down. For the $400-500 I saved, I'm pretty happy, and this video reinforces it.
Love your content GeekaWhat. Question though, what was the challenge in guessing after testing the games on all three PCs? I mean that pretty much made the results crystal clear. The real challenge would have been if you correctly guessed immediately after testing one PC and that is what I went in expecting to be honest :D
$3000 for a PC with no 4090 is insane, you could have saved yourself $200 and gone for the Ryzen 7 7800x3d instead of the i9 for an even better performance too
Anyone know where to get mini prebuilts with no rgb for below 2k? Im leaning between a 3090 or 4080 in the smallest form factor i can get. I'ma want 4k gaming, 30-60 fps would be enough for me.
Bought a Fractal Torrent RGB recently (the big case, not the compact) ; it is a really nice case. Quiet, excellent cooling and, in my view, looks great.
@@hellspawnx3526 yes I need more room though had it for two years I have 7900xtx with a 7800x3d my first build on it was 12600k 3060ti I have 850 watts power supply right now I want a 1200w with atx3.0 pcie5.0 compatability and still use with my old gpu meaning future proof longer
A friend of mine build my first custom pc month ago. 5800x3d 7800 xt hellhound B550 F Asus Rog Strix 1 TB SSD Corsair AIO 2x120mm 2x16 gb corsair rgb ram ddr4 4 RGB Fans 1 back , 3 front. total i spend 1700£ on all parts. I start watching pc build videos couple days after that and i alrdy know how fcked i am ..
1.7k for that is a total scam lol. You could get quite a power full PC for 1.7k, but I dont know how the prices have been in Brittain after Brexit. Here in Germany, 1.7k would buy you a powerful mashine.
Why are we paying 900 dollars for a 4070 when you can get a 7900 xtx. like it makes no sense to me. I spent 1700 dollars building my pc and it has a 7800x3d 7900 xtx. And 4080 super is not more powerful than the 7900 xtx lol.
the 1500 dollar build is quite poor tbh i have one in my basket with a 7900 gre with a amd 7 7700x for the same price and i wouldn't say i cheaped out on any of the other components. it is a pure performance build tho.
@@Yzyu My build will run 100% with little to no bottlenecking. It's total cost is $1,333 and you can throw in a 7800X3D if you wanted to. But like I said, the 7700 is just $170.
It would be more interesting if you tried to guess without the fps counter and just the feel of the PCs because imo i don't think most ppl will play games while constantly looking at their FPS
I was going to say the same thing
true
Hope you guys enjoy this one? A lot of time went into building the three systems and the blind test, but I think it actually provided some really interesting results! 👀
Now do blind testing where you can’t see fps counter.
Thank you for your efforts, you're most appreciated. 😍
Could you do the same using AMD video cards 💙
@@abdalhayalbanna4247 lol. What’s the point? Tbh even this video was pretty useless. Amd will be exactly the same. What’s definitely interesting is blind tests.
Echoing what others said, this could have been really interesting but wasn’t. The test should have been blind, without fps counter visible. Only that would actually be indicative of “can you really tell a difference during regular gameplay with your eyes and input response time.”
What is the monitor you are using?
damn i guessed the same but the results shocked me too 4070ti super is definitely the winner here
Love it was going to get the 4080 super but glad I saved the money and put it into other better components.
Ive never seen anything above 120fps. I usually game at 60 but i saw 120 at a friend's house and it was a little smoother. I can't imagine anything smoother than that. Whats 300fps like?
I'm going to get a PC, next week, that will be about £3,000. I'm doing this because I've had this same PC for 7 years now... I'm an experienced 3D model artist and have been working with games engines for about 22 years now but I've also started live streaming. It's going to be an investment for the next 5 years or so.
Pure logic, how's she running anyways?
You should do the same idea but you cant see the framerate, purely off of what you experience.
shoulda done a full on blind test. fps is a dead giveaway. a BLIND test would of really shown if you could notice the difference in the actual gameplay and graphics between a $1500 TO $3000 system.
The 1500 pc would be beyond perfect for an upgrade from my dying 1050ti😅
I have the same gpu lol
What was the point of a blind test when you can see all the FPS info onscreen.
Can you please make a build in the h7 flow with the rgb ring Nzxt Fans
Can you pls build a full eBay gaming pc
What is your budget? What do you mean by an eBay gaming pc?
I can make it simpler for everyone. AM5 7600 with 4070 Ti Super or 4080 Super... you dont need anything else.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($130.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter OC Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card ($529.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1173.84
you looking at the numbers instead of just playing and focusing on your own perception renders this video practically worthless... you would have had a fantastic video, if you would have focused on the _experience_ and not just looking at the numbers...
Ok ok ok, for 1500$ you can get ddr5 ram in there especially for that price. And for 2400-2500 you can. Go 4080 super and got 3k you can easily fit in a 4090 at MSRP
nah for like 2000 you could get a system with a 4080 super easily, they just choose fancy looking components over performance
If Im spending that kinda money, the PC should look nice aswell. My new PC is 3k, 400€ of it just being stuff to make it look good like cable mod cables, nice fans for about 270€. The GPU is 200-300 more than the cheapest models aswell, since I went for an Aurorus Master. So essentically, you could get the same pc for like 2.4-2.5k performance wise, but then it wouldnt be looking nice lol
its so much cheaper in the usa for fuck sake in Hungary pc parts are so fucking expensive
You could put the 4090 in a 3k build, the asthetics werent worth it imo
Disagree. I went for the 4080s over a 4090 because I wanted my entire build to look good xD
Total: $2031.45 $3k for a slower gaming PC.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($358.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK500 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($250.76 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card ($926.76 @ Amazon)
Case: Montech SKY TWO ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Enermax Revolution D.F. X 1050 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon)
I don't know shite about building a pc but I'm certain you just priced an entire build👏
@@Felled-angel This is just the tower. You still need kb/m, monitor or tv. KB/M combo are around $30. There are plenty $20-$30 gaming/fps mice and $20-$30 mechanical keyboards to choose from.
@@itsatrap4986 and my dumb ass thinking I couldn't skip a other console and get a decent pc for £1000😕
One thing I like about Nvidia GPU is the fact that u can buy at MSRP(if u are lucky) and sell it higher.
thats called scalping. we dont like that lol
You can make a $2k pc with a 7800x3d and 4080 super in it
closer to $2,200. if you didnt fully cheap out on everything else.
Total: $1105.83 The 1440 doesn't beat the Ryzen 5 6 core processor.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($130.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S7 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card ($539.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Just saying for 1500 you can fit a 7900xtx and 2tb ssd
Total: $1528.03 The CPU will bottleneck the XTX. Definitely go w/7800X3D,
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($130.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin King SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($20.09 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card ($899.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
bait video but sure, lets watch, for the algorithm!
What was bait about it? I said I was going to build three systems… and I did?
Better if you used the AMD 7800X3D with the RTX4080 Super, there would be no doubt which would be the best system. Motherboard, I prefer primarily MSI followed by ASU. Not too keen on GB.
Loved the video easy Sub(:
P.S. Frame counter was definitely cheat codes for that poor 4070 super 😂
But was crazy seeing the 4070TiS keeping up well with the 4080s so definitely no complaints about the FPS Counter(:
Just bought a 4070TiSuper and it is easily the best GPU I’ve ever owned very fast very snappy and really cool to be able to play in 4k. It handles 1440p like a BOSS ESports like a Boss as well!
Can someone explain to me why people don’t test this stuff in 4K. I would love to see somebody test horizon zero dawn or cyberpunk 2077 4K and at as close to 120 FPS you can get.
Of course you can if spent in right place but you won’t see ANY difference between the $300 aio and $300 cases you feature vs a $30-50 cooler and case
Shoulda ran all of these with the 7800x3D
The Cyberpunk 2077 video at the end of the dual wide-screen monitor is the same video to show RT and been seen in other videos - you didn't test the game you just used video footage.
pls I want a high end 4090 gaming pc but I need I small case that is power and still classy what case would you recommend
What is your budget? Do you still need help?
@@MrAnimescrazysince he is getting a 4090 his budget is as high as it can get lol
@abde4645 no I would like a specific number so I can help.
I’m not sure about the prices where this guy is but the 2000 pc could’ve been way better
2000€ mid range???
Yes, mid range. In this video, its exactly in the middle. Just how a 2k can be a "budget" PC. Just because its not YOUR budget, doesnt mean it aint budget. Its a subjective definition. Especially if most high end pcs are around 3k-4k so 2k is mid range either way :D
Wtf is that 1500 build not even ddr5 bad cpu and gpu selection
Honestly, I just built a new system around the 4070 Ti Super. I started with a 4080 Super and spec'd down. For the $400-500 I saved, I'm pretty happy, and this video reinforces it.
I just bought a 2,400 dollar prebuilt from sky tech did I mess up
Yes
Love your content GeekaWhat. Question though, what was the challenge in guessing after testing the games on all three PCs? I mean that pretty much made the results crystal clear. The real challenge would have been if you correctly guessed immediately after testing one PC and that is what I went in expecting to be honest :D
$3000 for a PC with no 4090 is insane, you could have saved yourself $200 and gone for the Ryzen 7 7800x3d instead of the i9 for an even better performance too
You’ll probably have to cheap out on some components to get a 4090 at 3k but it’s doable
System 1 you used DLAA, but the other two TAA.
cs: GLOBAL OFFENSIVE 2?
Here we go lets sell some kidney
At the $1500 mark, I probably would’ve gone AMD to get the most out of my money and take advantage of DDR5
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($130.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card ($689.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1333.84
here before purging the bots
Is there much difference between a $1000 and a $1200 pc build?
200$ is the difference 😂. Seriously yes, you can get the next tier GPU for that difference.
@@daniil3815 ok
exactly, 200 will usually bump you up a tier on any graphics card you choose.
Anyone know where to get mini prebuilts with no rgb for below 2k? Im leaning between a 3090 or 4080 in the smallest form factor i can get. I'ma want 4k gaming, 30-60 fps would be enough for me.
$3000 pc is better
Noo really? i could’ve never guessed
Oh wow I realllyyyy thought it was the 1500 built
No fucking shit
@@GJPCShahahaha, ngl that’s funny 😂😂
Man you must be Sherlock homes
Im thinking upgrading my case from 4000d to something else
Bought a Fractal Torrent RGB recently (the big case, not the compact) ; it is a really nice case. Quiet, excellent cooling and, in my view, looks great.
Try h6 flow
@@t5kcannon1 i was thinking nv7 phanteks ok I will look into that thanks or nv5
Isn't 4000D a good case?
@@hellspawnx3526 yes I need more room though had it for two years I have 7900xtx with a 7800x3d my first build on it was 12600k 3060ti I have 850 watts power supply right now I want a 1200w with atx3.0 pcie5.0 compatability and still use with my old gpu meaning future proof longer
A friend of mine build my first custom pc month ago.
5800x3d
7800 xt hellhound
B550 F Asus Rog Strix
1 TB SSD
Corsair AIO 2x120mm
2x16 gb corsair rgb ram ddr4
4 RGB Fans 1 back , 3 front.
total i spend 1700£ on all parts. I start watching pc build videos couple days after that and i alrdy know how fcked i am ..
1.7k for that is a total scam lol. You could get quite a power full PC for 1.7k, but I dont know how the prices have been in Brittain after Brexit. Here in Germany, 1.7k would buy you a powerful mashine.
Idk about the 1500 dollars one for that much I can get a 7600 with 7900xt with 2 tbs of storage with no cost cut
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($130.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card ($689.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1333.84
Thanks for not putting the garbage 7600 and 7800X3d in any of these builds.
Why?
No amd gpu why
i assume for guessing to be a bit harder, since he is using dlss which is called fsr on raedeon gpus
Why are we paying 900 dollars for a 4070 when you can get a 7900 xtx. like it makes no sense to me. I spent 1700 dollars building my pc and it has a 7800x3d 7900 xtx. And 4080 super is not more powerful than the 7900 xtx lol.
It is tho? the 7900 xtx is like 2 years old at this point. The 4080s outperformes it.
Wrong. A 4070 is $550-600 usd and pretty readily available while a 7900 xtx is ~$1000. Makes no sense to go AMD in that price range.
But is the “ti super” one
But is the “ti super” and I think he spent a bit on aesthetics
the 1500 dollar build is quite poor tbh i have one in my basket with a 7900 gre with a amd 7 7700x for the same price and i wouldn't say i cheaped out on any of the other components. it is a pure performance build tho.
Total: $1333.84 Can't beat AMD/Radeon combo right now. 7700 is $40 more.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($130.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card ($689.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
@@itsatrap4986 CPU bottleneck bro, cheaped out on motherboard and cpu cooler
@@Yzyu My build will run 100% with little to no bottlenecking. It's total cost is $1,333 and you can throw in a 7800X3D if you wanted to. But like I said, the 7700 is just $170.
@@Yzyu Total: $1439.63 Learn how to price parts out and research each parts.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($160.00)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE WHITE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card ($699.99 @ Newegg)
Case: SAMA ARGB-Q5 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($53.49 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($143.19 @ Amazon)
@@itsatrap4986 ofc it will run fine but your not getting the most out of it with some of your parts
I beg you my brother don't say 1500-2000 is a budget system.