I usually like your skits, but this one's giving me some Lady Ballers energy. I'm guessing the intent was to make the director look absurdly phobic, but you're doing it by using stereotypes and yelling at someone for appearing gay: that's just also how you bully gay people. 🤷♂ Like at around 7:36 there's the very worn out stereotype that gay men all act feminine, and the last is just a man being upset that people think he's being gay. I'd be surprised if the writer of this skit didn't hate queer people, which is disappointing because I've heard a lot of great jokes about practically all queer people the last few years. Hope the next one's a bit more original. ✌
The delusional director who relies on overblown stereotypes for men (both queer e.g. the hair flipping, and straight ones e.g. lifting things) is the butt of the joke. When the actor denies being gay, you can interpret it as him being a not gay man who is befuddled to be assumed gay, or maybe even a queer guy who is self-protectively denying his queerness in front of a phobic employer. Either way, the jokes are that (1) the director delusionally sees him as acting stereotypically gay when the actor is not ('wheres the long hair coming from') and (2) he sees that coming off as 'queer' in any capacity (real or imagined) is bad and that going to the other extreme with a farcically overblown performance of 'straight' masculinity is the way go despite it not matching the dramatic tone of the scene/scene partner, and the award going to michael caine for playing a queer character showing that playing queer characters is rewarded in the industry.
Is your argument that we should just never depict homophobia in attempts to satirise it...? There is a grand canyon of subversion between this and "Lady Ballers", that's genuinely a crazy comparison.
I'm gay and I think they were going for the inherent discomfort of having your every mannerism critiqued by spectators, something that is difficult for actors but also comes up in the everyday lives of gay people. The humour comes from the absurdity of the boxes we're put into by others (the director) as well as the ones we then force ourselves into for others' approval (the Manly acting at the end). I understand your knee-jerk reaction but I honestly don't think this short film is queerphobic or uses queer mannerisms as a punchline
@@rainenjoyerr I love satire! Where is it? Was it when they mocked a "gay" man in a feminine way? Was it when they gave him the best acting award notably for him being gay? Was it when the crew was going along with the director's obvious homophobia? Was it relating toxic male behavior unreasonably to gay men? Was it when the main character hated himself for being seen as gay? Those are just things homophobes do and say. I'm surprised there wasn't a grooming gay panic joke. (There's an abusive sexual reference though) The comparison to "Lady Ballers" fits. You have no examples from this skit for your argument and I just made 5 references to homophobia.
@@agrumbler2872 So none of the five examples recently I mentioned are queer stereotypes..? I understand there's are possibly multiple jokes you could interpret in an absurdly comical way, but those jokes are still just stereotype after stereotype. In the example you used, the homophobic stereotype that gay (queer in general) people get more positive recognition and support is right there. (While some gay/queer actors struggle for acting work.) This was his best performance; where a "gay" man abused a woman: another stereotype that gay people are (in many ways) abusive to their partners. Just ask Brian Camenker, leader of MassResistence. Us being gay shouldn't affect our arguments assuming we understand the topic, which is the edgy and worn out homophobic jokes heavily relying on stereotypes. I'd like some satire or subversion or something funny if you bring up hateful topics.🤷♂
"Rrgh - I'm fuckin' comin' for ya now, sweetie." This will live in my head forever
that passive-aggressive "Thanks guys" followed by a deep sigh is too real
11 minutes in hell, thank you
"Yeah it's all unusable anyway, is somebody chewing?" As a production Sound Mixer I felt this in my bones. I feel seen
What an absolute fucking nightmare...I love it
"Am i gay? No"
"Really?"😮
😂
If I had a penny for every time Michael Caine ended a piece of media on Grouse House...
The sun glasses on the head had me dying
I’m a professor of satire at Cambridge and let me just say this: Wow!
So excited to see how this wraps up
We’re so back that was golden
Omfg this is fantastic work folks. Love it, well done
Grouse Films, more like Grouse Cinema
First of all I want to give a shout out to all the gays out there.
It's like being at Waapa in 2014 with this cast.
Wow. Australian comedy 👏🏼
so good 🫰🏼🫰🏼🫰🏼🫰🏼
Stunning
Incredible
Incredible!
Good shit
What a ride
brilliant
Really funny
no wayyy i thought i recognized the director, he was jj from snake tales
Watching in 2x speed to be the first public view of this whole vid
this is fucking amazing
❤❤
Grouse
first
This one wasnt so great. 👎
I usually like your skits, but this one's giving me some Lady Ballers energy. I'm guessing the intent was to make the director look absurdly phobic, but you're doing it by using stereotypes and yelling at someone for appearing gay: that's just also how you bully gay people. 🤷♂
Like at around 7:36 there's the very worn out stereotype that gay men all act feminine, and the last is just a man being upset that people think he's being gay. I'd be surprised if the writer of this skit didn't hate queer people, which is disappointing because I've heard a lot of great jokes about practically all queer people the last few years.
Hope the next one's a bit more original. ✌
The delusional director who relies on overblown stereotypes for men (both queer e.g. the hair flipping, and straight ones e.g. lifting things) is the butt of the joke. When the actor denies being gay, you can interpret it as him being a not gay man who is befuddled to be assumed gay, or maybe even a queer guy who is self-protectively denying his queerness in front of a phobic employer. Either way, the jokes are that (1) the director delusionally sees him as acting stereotypically gay when the actor is not ('wheres the long hair coming from') and (2) he sees that coming off as 'queer' in any capacity (real or imagined) is bad and that going to the other extreme with a farcically overblown performance of 'straight' masculinity is the way go despite it not matching the dramatic tone of the scene/scene partner, and the award going to michael caine for playing a queer character showing that playing queer characters is rewarded in the industry.
Is your argument that we should just never depict homophobia in attempts to satirise it...? There is a grand canyon of subversion between this and "Lady Ballers", that's genuinely a crazy comparison.
I'm gay and I think they were going for the inherent discomfort of having your every mannerism critiqued by spectators, something that is difficult for actors but also comes up in the everyday lives of gay people.
The humour comes from the absurdity of the boxes we're put into by others (the director) as well as the ones we then force ourselves into for others' approval (the Manly acting at the end).
I understand your knee-jerk reaction but I honestly don't think this short film is queerphobic or uses queer mannerisms as a punchline
@@rainenjoyerr I love satire! Where is it?
Was it when they mocked a "gay" man in a feminine way? Was it when they gave him the best acting award notably for him being gay? Was it when the crew was going along with the director's obvious homophobia? Was it relating toxic male behavior unreasonably to gay men? Was it when the main character hated himself for being seen as gay?
Those are just things homophobes do and say. I'm surprised there wasn't a grooming gay panic joke. (There's an abusive sexual reference though)
The comparison to "Lady Ballers" fits. You have no examples from this skit for your argument and I just made 5 references to homophobia.
@@agrumbler2872 So none of the five examples recently I mentioned are queer stereotypes..?
I understand there's are possibly multiple jokes you could interpret in an absurdly comical way, but those jokes are still just stereotype after stereotype. In the example you used, the homophobic stereotype that gay (queer in general) people get more positive recognition and support is right there. (While some gay/queer actors struggle for acting work.) This was his best performance; where a "gay" man abused a woman: another stereotype that gay people are (in many ways) abusive to their partners. Just ask Brian Camenker, leader of MassResistence.
Us being gay shouldn't affect our arguments assuming we understand the topic, which is the edgy and worn out homophobic jokes heavily relying on stereotypes. I'd like some satire or subversion or something funny if you bring up hateful topics.🤷♂