Quick Tip mate from over the ditch where we have much harder ground, use the height selection pin next time and gradually go lower rather than trying to cut a 300mm depth right away.
This is a true reality of using a rotavator, I just hired the same machine as shown in this video and very disappointed. It's not digging the ground rather just scraping the surface. Gutted 😢
The only reason you are having difficulty is because the ground is too wet. I have one of these things with the 16 HP engine, I am 156 cm and 50 kg, I use it alot and have zero problems operating it and moving it around in tight spaces. The only modification I made was to lower the handle height. I have hit burried construction bricks and rocks the size of grapefruit; the rotavator jumped around less than a couple of inches lifted them to the surface. Incredibly capable machines. It only stalled three times when I hit three burried trees.
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Thanks. Check for videos on the proper soil wetness. You would also have difficulty if the soil is too dry, but it would not be as bad. Good luck!
I just had one of these Barreto machines for the weekend. I took it to 500 square meters of clay on Saturday, after a dry week in May. And I can say it absolutely chews. Pulling rocks, bricks and all sorts out of the earth along its path. I have to agree that the soil in the video appears too wet. What makes me agree with that? Well, I had the unfortunate mishap of bursting a poorly installed mains water pipe, saturating an area of the garden. And the results of later tilling that area were much similar to that shown in this video. Especially regarding traction. The wheels easily pull the machine under correct conditions. The machine did a great job. It can also counter-rotate the tines for a more aggressive till. After I had removed major rocks and other debris on the first pass I honestly don't think I could have pushed it hard enough, At times, when I reached down to pick out rocks dislodged by the machine, it felt like I was swimming in soil, with a lovely deep tilth. I had seen this video while waiting on delivery of the hire last week. And it had me worried I had bitten off more than I can chew. But operation is intuitive and a breeze. The machine removed all effort on my part, save for hoofing it around to turn. Which, considering the amount of manual labour it was saving me, I didn't mind one bit. Thanks for the video. I hope this helps anyone else when planning their garden renovations.
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Bearing in mind you are going to skim with good topsoil to raise the level prior to seeding or turfing. Once you wind in the sand if drainage is a problem. flatten off then you could deep drill every metre with an earth auger on a powerful electric drill and fill the holes with pea gravel using a drain hopper head as a funnel. That should give some drainage. Finally skim your topsoil on the perforated bed.
One thing I don’t get is why here in the UK most of your garden tools such as shovel, spade, fork etc they all have such a short handle?! You always have to bend and put so much pressure on your back as seen on this video
Agree entirely mate. They must still be working off Victorian blueprints. I'm 6'4" and it really ticks me off. You can buy longer handled tools but guess what? They cost a lot more! Stay safe and well my friend. Des
Hired one yesterday and bit worried after your video. However, it did a good job after a bad start with me not understanding the controls. There was a depth setting bar and if you set to min then all good. To go deeper, just run over again at the same setting, the setting bar will penetrated the the loose stuff and works from the solid ground so will work deeper ever run. Had a lovely slow forward motion, only need to steer. I would say let the machine do the work, not you. But quite an effort to turn at end of run. My ground was dry!
When the council did my garden they hired something like that and it looked like it was struggling. Now my grandad has got a old 3hp wolseley webb rotavator and it rips your arms off and you know about it the next day.
In all fairness you probably did it when soil was too wet. If you'd have left it a few days a 9h.p would have chewed it up. The clue was the rota blocking up...
How do you prevent all the existing weed to regrow on your new turf? Isn't it bettee to remove the existing lawn first (so most of the weed will come out together) and then rotavating? Thanks
Thanks for this video caveman!Was thinking about hiring out something like this for a much bigger area but not going to now. Will just have to fork out big money for landscaping company but my back will be happy! ..... Hope you got the grass seed planted and that you have a nice lawn now.
Hi there buddy. Don't dismiss the rotavator out of hand my friend. It didn't work out great for me but it may be better for you. I think the soil was too heavy and wet and it was a bit of a struggle to be honest and pretty hard work as it kept clogging up. However, in dryer, warmer conditions it may have been OK. I found landscaping to be bloody hard work and my back was killing me (I'm 6'4" though so not that close to the ground lol). The lawn turned out great and I ended up turfing it over for an instant lawn. That was some graft as well I can tell you. Hope you're having a great weekend where you are. Des
Great vid mate, how come you have to dig the garden after rotavating? Planning on rotavating and laying new grass seed this week so any advice is appreciated 😊
GHi there. The reason was that despite using the rotavator, it just dug up large sods of clay'ish soil. So, whilst it did help to break up the soil initially, these large sods still needed breaking down further. Hope this helps, DEs
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Great video. Looks like a lot of hard work! Looking forward to following along with this project
Thank you Sir. More on its way - when I sort my back out! Take care, Des
Quick Tip mate from over the ditch where we have much harder ground, use the height selection pin next time and gradually go lower rather than trying to cut a 300mm depth right away.
Good idea that buddy. Thank you. Des
This is a true reality of using a rotavator, I just hired the same machine as shown in this video and very disappointed. It's not digging the ground rather just scraping the surface. Gutted 😢
The only reason you are having difficulty is because the ground is too wet. I have one of these things with the 16 HP engine, I am 156 cm and 50 kg, I use it alot and have zero problems operating it and moving it around in tight spaces. The only modification I made was to lower the handle height. I have hit burried construction bricks and rocks the size of grapefruit; the rotavator jumped around less than a couple of inches lifted them to the surface. Incredibly capable machines. It only stalled three times when I hit three burried trees.
Hi there and thanks for your very helpful comments. Your opinion makes much more sense and is indeed the most likely scenario. Best wishes, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Thanks. Check for videos on the proper soil wetness. You would also have difficulty if the soil is too dry, but it would not be as bad. Good luck!
I just had one of these Barreto machines for the weekend. I took it to 500 square meters of clay on Saturday, after a dry week in May. And I can say it absolutely chews. Pulling rocks, bricks and all sorts out of the earth along its path.
I have to agree that the soil in the video appears too wet. What makes me agree with that? Well, I had the unfortunate mishap of bursting a poorly installed mains water pipe, saturating an area of the garden. And the results of later tilling that area were much similar to that shown in this video. Especially regarding traction. The wheels easily pull the machine under correct conditions.
The machine did a great job. It can also counter-rotate the tines for a more aggressive till. After I had removed major rocks and other debris on the first pass I honestly don't think I could have pushed it hard enough, At times, when I reached down to pick out rocks dislodged by the machine, it felt like I was swimming in soil, with a lovely deep tilth.
I had seen this video while waiting on delivery of the hire last week. And it had me worried I had bitten off more than I can chew. But operation is intuitive and a breeze. The machine removed all effort on my part, save for hoofing it around to turn. Which, considering the amount of manual labour it was saving me, I didn't mind one bit.
Thanks for the video. I hope this helps anyone else when planning their garden renovations.
On a heavy clay would it not be a good idea to rotavate in about four tons of sand into the bed? This would help the machine and future drainage.
Sounds like a good idea that. Didn't occur to me. Many thanks, Des
@@21stcenturycaveman33 Bearing in mind you are going to skim with good topsoil to raise the level prior to seeding or turfing. Once you wind in the sand if drainage is a problem. flatten off then you could deep drill every metre with an earth auger on a powerful electric drill and fill the holes with pea gravel using a drain hopper head as a funnel. That should give some drainage. Finally skim your topsoil on the perforated bed.
Keith, this is really valuable advice mate. Thanks very much. I'm sure it will benefit other viewers as well. Best wishes, Des
One thing I don’t get is why here in the UK most of your garden tools such as shovel, spade, fork etc they all have such a short handle?! You always have to bend and put so much pressure on your back as seen on this video
Agree entirely mate. They must still be working off Victorian blueprints. I'm 6'4" and it really ticks me off. You can buy longer handled tools but guess what? They cost a lot more! Stay safe and well my friend. Des
This could be an outtake from 'The Good Life' TV programme.
Lol. They probably had more fun than I did. ATB, Des
Hired one yesterday and bit worried after your video. However, it did a good job after a bad start with me not understanding the controls. There was a depth setting bar and if you set to min then all good. To go deeper, just run over again at the same setting, the setting bar will penetrated the the loose stuff and works from the solid ground so will work deeper ever run. Had a lovely slow forward motion, only need to steer. I would say let the machine do the work, not you. But quite an effort to turn at end of run. My ground was dry!
When the council did my garden they hired something like that and it looked like it was struggling. Now my grandad has got a old 3hp wolseley webb rotavator and it rips your arms off and you know about it the next day.
Lol. Sometimes the originals are the best. This was really disappointing. I could have done with that Wolesley mate. Thanks for commenting. Des
It sounds like a tank but it's real good. I let my girlfriend have a go and she couldn't keep hold of it.
In all fairness you probably did it when soil was too wet. If you'd have left it a few days a 9h.p would have chewed it up. The clue was the rota blocking up...
Do you know what? I think you're absolutely right. I think the soil was far too wetand just clogged the thing up. Lessons learned .... ATB, Des
So glad I watched this my ground is very similar to yours decided not hire a rotavator ..
Glad to help. Des
Next time use your hands since the machine is such a burden.. the key to this machine is you work it.. not let it work you.
I tried and failed miserably. I think I definitely need more practice - not any time soon though :?) Stay safe and well. Des
How do you prevent all the existing weed to regrow on your new turf? Isn't it bettee to remove the existing lawn first (so most of the weed will come out together) and then rotavating? Thanks
Hiya Dan. That's exactly waht I did my friend. Best, Des
How did you remove existing lawn? Manually or is there a machine
Steven Seagal = nackered 😂
This thing took the life out of me today
Great video currently doing my garden today and came a cross your video
Great news. Hope it helps my friend. Best wishes, Des
Oh my that’s a lot of work ! Great effort !
Cheers buddy. ATB, Des
Could you run the tines in reverse when it clogged up?
Don't know, sorry.
Thanks for this video caveman!Was thinking about hiring out something like this for a much bigger area but not going to now. Will just have to fork out big money for landscaping company but my back will be happy! ..... Hope you got the grass seed planted and that you have a nice lawn now.
Hi there buddy. Don't dismiss the rotavator out of hand my friend. It didn't work out great for me but it may be better for you. I think the soil was too heavy and wet and it was a bit of a struggle to be honest and pretty hard work as it kept clogging up. However, in dryer, warmer conditions it may have been OK. I found landscaping to be bloody hard work and my back was killing me (I'm 6'4" though so not that close to the ground lol). The lawn turned out great and I ended up turfing it over for an instant lawn. That was some graft as well I can tell you. Hope you're having a great weekend where you are. Des
Great vid mate, how come you have to dig the garden after rotavating? Planning on rotavating and laying new grass seed this week so any advice is appreciated 😊
GHi there. The reason was that despite using the rotavator, it just dug up large sods of clay'ish soil. So, whilst it did help to break up the soil initially, these large sods still needed breaking down further. Hope this helps, DEs
That was deffo overkill you didn’t need that pal