@@finnc3706 i doubt you could say the head is evil in any capacity. we literally no nothing about them and their motivation other than trying to keep the city a place where only humans thrive.
PM is just built different, and it also helps worldbuild to hint at how op the Head actually is, as if one of LobCorp’s bad endings didn’t do that well enough…
Makes me wonder how the head would go against other fandom associations, like the evils of humanity from fate or their grand servants, and things like that, since canonically each one of them have the power of a goddamn singularity @@WiseViper39
@@m1tl4y0tl If we're talking stuff like Angra Mainyu in Heaven's Feel I think one Arbiter would be able to deal with it easily, but I really doubt the Head is succeeding in a fight against any Grand Servant
@@confusedjay717thinking about it… honestly it seems doable for the head to live. The head has technology beyond a grand servant if we really think about it. The power class is a little unfair, I mean just on top my head he could utilize time itself, infinite energy, clones, the multiverse (mirrors), etc. The City is inherently unfair considering its in a time of post technological singularity and somehow society didnt implode on itself. I wouldnt be surprised if The Head just rejected petty things like “dying”.
The city has all this shit and is still weaker than some of other fiction power wise because PM knows how to not make a character or an association stupidly overpowered
Half the artistic aesthetic in this game is that even while dudes be like half-human with claws n shit, they still gotta be fresh to death in perfectly tailored suits.
@Diavolo Jaegar I dont know man that move have W in is name and the-land- we-shall-not-be-talked-about taught me that travel by W's Singularities take forever. Except if the Claw somehow have a better version of W's Singularities of course.
@Diavolo Jaegar No, warp isn't instaneous, on it's own, you also get the 2000Y/10S ratio. That's why the previous W corp died off, they couldn't find a way to make it usefull. Then the new W corp replaced the old one, getting it's warp singularity and combinning it with it's own singularity : the recombinning stuff. But it still turned out to not be enough to make it usefull, so they made a contract with T corp. The box installed in every train prevent decay and death, by preventing time from truly advancing, allowing them to get the excess time, preventing passengers from dying and the train from breaking down.
@@leopoldbullot8016 I just want to bring forth something. Warp trains dont take 2000 years to reach their destination. It took 2000 to get to the point where the townspeople raid the Library. After that the train keeps going for a bit before the puppets get sent to the Library and finally Puppeteer and Blood Red Night leave. We dont know how much time passes between that and the train reaching its destination, so the total amount could be way more. If I had to guess, every second is 1000 years, which if true would mean taking a W Train means 10000 years.
You get your ass evicted. NOT cause of extracting monsters and weapons from people’s minds, NOT cause of the 7 white nights, NOT cause of the distortions, NOT cause you butchered lots of people and turn them into books but because your director is a machine lol.
@@heartdaring1787 personally that wasent the ending for me the true ending was the fight with the Blue man group pt2 since its legitimately the ending for the character arc of Roland and Angela and the head showing up to a battle torn library to evict was the set up for the sequel. Personally I adored the ending and also the voices inside their head is basically the mind itself trying to tempt you into becoming a distortion but if you are able to fight it and strengthen your resolve you gain your EGO. It's also explained in Kalis book
@@heartdaring1787 Isnt it obvious that its Carmen though? She was connected to the origins of the world back in LC and created all the abnormalities. Since her stated was "neither dead or alive" Its only Logical that her connection to the origins stays the same and now after the White nights and Dark days, certain humans can get access to the origins of the world and Distort or Manifest ego. This is when Carmen tries to make People distort. Its honestly more of a question "Whats your goal?" than anything and i really expected only this explained in the ending over anything else (I mean, at least we got more hints about whats the True goal of the Head). One of the proofs is the Tree analogy which the voice uses with Xiao. Carmen used such analogies back in Lob Corp Lab.
I don't care what the fuck are you doing to half the section, It was your boss was a fucking *Clanker* that is the real case! -Arbitrary expelling & excommunication agency
Zena ingame: A member of the most feared organization in the series with the power to back it up Zena in the fandom: Binah's bratty little sister that makes da funny faces
Man.... she literally is budget-Garion. Also... her datamines show she only has 550hp and Stagger.... take away her plotarmor and say "Hahaha Roland, your wife is dead" and watch how fast those two die while he morbs. Let alone with Gebura and Binah on his side.
Don't you hate it when someone breaks into your house with a whole hobo gang, you beat them up and then your best friend decides to murder you, then after beating into him some senses you see the hobo gang just coming back for round 2, and after that some officials just shows up and eject you to Brazil?
@@mgamer1703 To Outskirt, if that "word" is good for Brazil. Whole Nest just teleported by "Eyes" from City to protect all humans even if City is just ... another City in World (you`ll get voice message from Purple Tear, talking with West and East Hana Base about EGO users unite)
@@seiun7833 which really sucks- it meant that you could counter it with Geb's Vertical split with a small chance. First time I did this fight I managed to roll exactly the right number to not only counter W serum- but also hit baraal with it. I didn't realize how that wasnt a guarantee unless I rolled lower.
I know everyone is mentioning this but I love how the most powerful soldiers/ agents in the city look the best. I mean, look at how snazzy Baral and Zena look.
I just realized that the Head's wings represent the 3 bird abnormalities we all know and love/hate Arbiter = Judgement Bird Beholder = Big BIrd Claw = Punishing Bird Huh, a trio who only intended to protect the forest, only to become the monster living in the dark forest. Sound suspiciously the City to me
@@zenowolfpirate1442 apocalypse bird => combined their forces to protect the very forest they'd come to threaten as a monster. The Head => tried to stop the creation of an AI by destroying lobotomy's lab leading to the creation of that very same AI. The parallels keep on coming
It would be awesome to have this being a real like 3-5min long proper ost, and we actually have to fight like just a normal Claw, which probably will still kick our butts in whichever game it shows up in.
The Head has had a different OST in both the games they've shown up; both bangers in their own right. I'm sure whenever we see them next we'll get a completely different track that tops the previous yet again. PM almost seems obsessed with one upping themselves
This is about as happy an ending PM could give us while still having the room to make the third game, so I respect this. The Librarians are all safe and sound, Binah decided to cast her lot with the Library despite having a reasonably easy way out to betray Angela, Roland and Angela both went through their worst issues... it seems that the third game will see them all as stronger, more adjusted people, ready for anything the Head and the Fixers would throw at them.
We won't see them anymore at least not as playable characters. A bit sad because I really liked this cast and this battle system, I'm wary of a first person dungeon crawler with a different cast even.
As what we've learned from the artbook, this is actually a scrapped concept track of what the Floor of Philosophy _could_ have sounded like. Interesting, huh?
@@melodywawichi802 and the only way to increase the cost of that page is bina's lock. And sadly there's no way to win against that you have to win a previous class in order to increase its cost
Well, it's here. We finally faced the head, not as a mere Illusion im Ayin's memory, but a real one. We are here, at the end of everything, and the new library is here, everyone survived, the light is shed across tje city. Thanks, Project Moon for another Masterpiece, and hope to see you guys in the next journey. For now, the curtains has closed for the library
The curtain closes, but it shall open again, and when it does, will it be on a scene known or unknown? The light has finally fully shone down on The City, and now it seems that peoples’ abilities to manifest and control EGO have been expanded. Possibly, more people can manifest their EGO? But, so too have the potential strength of distortions. The Pianist was a high WAW-rating, remember? I wonder if anyone will ever distort aboard a warp train, perhaps? All that emotional turbulence in one area is going to cause the line between EGO and distortion to blur heavily, and the duress and duration of the period are unrivaled elsewhere in the city. It’s a ticking time bomb of distortions waiting to happen.
@@15stargamer98 admittedly though, if the distortion happens on the warp train and manages to break the walls, all the passengers including the distortion will be yeeted out into the space anyways
imagine we get to fight the head again in another project moon game, and they play this song, but not as an extended loop, but as like a 3 minute+ version with different phases... please project moon...
And all this makes me wonder what exactly happened to the beings in the Outskirts. Are there raving gangs of nonhumans outside the walls? Perhaps some of them are smart enough to wonder what the walls are for. Who knows, maybe they're looking for a prosthetic body to reach the other side. *Book of Mo, Book of Alloc, Book of Gloria...*
Can't believe the Claw and Arbiter brought their jar experiment that gained life to the eviction fight and we didn't even get to see it. More seriously though great finale.
@@helloneighbour2408 I figure that it’s the reason we can’t see Baral and Zena’s HP or Stagger values, like it’s somehow messing with our perception of them.
Jesus, the head would be a nightmare to face in Lob Corp, considering how they were able to easily face off against binah, Roland, and gebura; Which, I don’t even want to think about fighting basically two red mists and an arbiter at the same time.
They were weakened due to fighting the Reverberation Ensemble...that and Gebura wasn't at her strongest, when she was Kali, she carved her way through a number of abnormalities, TWO claws and with one arm, she and Garion killed each other.
An Arbiter and The Claw are decent threats in Lobcorp but you can just Paradise Lost them to death in an easy 1v1 as long as you don't care about Abnos escaping / others dying
Roland fought the Reverb for a week straight, Binah barely got her powers back and Gebura is the furthest thing from top condition. Now I'm not downplaying these 3, they are probably the strongest characters that we know of in this universe right now.
I read somewhere that the City became what it is after a war against sentient machines, with the Head taking over and establishing the law that no sentient machines would be built. With the sheer power their minions have, their uncaring attitude to the rest of humanity, and their only major interventions happening when a major change in all the misery the City wallows in, what kind of person must they be? Yet why does the Head's usually uncaring attitude changes completely when sentient machines are on the line? When Argalia and his cronies ravage the City nothing happens. Why does he send an Arbiter to destroy Angela, the sole real AI in the City? What if he isn't allowing these machines to even appear not because he wants to keep the City "human", but for another ghastly motive? What if the Head itself is nothing but one of these machines? Their orders of the destruction of all sentient machinery aren't to maintain purity. It's to cull the competition.
That's very interesting actually. I don't remember reading this but when you put it this way, it makes a lot of sense. Hell, a machine culling the population makes more sense than mankind genociding all machines. I'd like to see where this goes actually. Do you know where this is mentioned? Because now you have my interest. (Here I was wondering what kind of idiot the guy who leads The Head might be lmfao)
Yeah, I personally like to think that the Head itself is a psychopathic AI creating the city just to observe what happens- and prevent anything from disrupting it. Especially when Zena mentions 'disrupting the ecology [they've] so carefully created.
Me last week: Wow I can't believe we might end up getting a happy ending after all. This week with the Head Eye Claw: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
@@suwote I disagree. Ayin,Carmen and Hokma got what they wanted, the light is spread. The people who went to the library may have gotten Ego. The only ones who didn't get what is beneficial to them is Angela.
Yet...these some the they haven't answer yet...(How did Lisa become Tiph-A/Whereabouts of C/The last suppression/Mars' mom/4 sociations left...and there should be *more...*
@@404_浮紙 lisa probably died during the arbiter attack or she voluntarily became a seph to be with enoch again, c is the nervous system from day 50, if you mean the last keter realization thats probably the final decision/the black silence reception, as for the rest yea those haven't been answered yet
@@Merotryz Its literally the Head, Roland was basically dead after fighting Argalia for a week, and both Gebura and Binah are weakened. The Head is quite literally our big bads. This shows we need alot more work to begin to stand to them.
I like, despite how this is actually the enemies’ theme, it sounds so heroic and uplifting, as if driving forward that The Head is great, and we are the ones at fault (which isn’t entirely wrong, causing the potential collapse of at least 2 other Wings, 3 Associations, and 2 Fingers). Really further drives the point that most city denizens approve of and support The Head, which makes us, in this case, an enemy of The City itself. Also what’s with Arbiters being very gentle in the way they speak, is it meant to convey a ‘you did well, now rest’ type feeling?
It does feel like, 'congratulations for winning this little game here, now it is time to move on'. I mean, Arbiters are called like that for a reason after all....
This is more of conveying a glorious final fight; though this battle is unwinnable (because Pmoon knows that violence itself, let alone of a few, doesn't magically cure the systematic problems) it is a battle between the system and people who have trascended the endless cycle of violence, hatred and suffering that the system has brought to them. Roland, Angela and the sephirah have achieved their enlightment and forgiven each other (tree of life symbolism and all that) and can finally face correctly their overlords oppressors; what the game is trying to convey is that only after facing one's self, achieving our own awakening, and understanding how we contribute the corruption and pain of it all, the system can be faced head-on.
@@kit7951 Except this the City so none of that matters, get folded by the system idiots (being the Librarians) no seriously, the Head was just toying with the Library, pretty sure it’s implied that Zena and Baral weren’t trying and Luda didn’t even fight, and I’m willing to bet that if she had/used Dieci tech, she’d be right there with Zena
@@WiseViper39Thats your headcanon. The Head explicitly wanted Angela dead, if not then expelled along with the library. They clearly failed the former and thus went with the later. The Beholder is clearly a support and information role, never once has a beholder been seen in a combat station. Like the attack on the outskirts lab, Lobotomy Corp, and library, arbiters and claws are the combatants. Beholders are meant to monitor taxes and gather information after all.
it just occur to me that the head can intervene anytime, like ANYTIME since the library causes so much chaos and distortion everywhere in the city, yet they remained silent somehow. angela, no everyone might assume that they needed just to observe more about the library by sending wings in one by one to investigate and see the result, but not on my book. and this is where my opinion started: The head somehow benefited from library. it just comes weird to me that they only and ONLY take action against library when angela comes out back into her robotic form, not the perfected human form she was before she let go of everything, heck they even let her be for another 13 YEARS if she decided to kill roland in one of the bad ending. it lead me to believe that the abnormality that the library causes make more of the citizen to have more power either by distortion/E.G.O/ even singularity that the city can control (presumably A corp singularities to control mind or smth). however since angela let loose of the very benefited part that the head needed, they sees the library has lost its purpose, giving them reason to yeet her and the library out with AI law shit or smth.
Someone had pointed out that The Library contributed heavily to the cycle of suffering that The City and The Head seem to thrive on, seen in how they allow and even justify the Distortion Phenomena, Sweepers and even worse things. At the end of the game, when the light is returned however that changes, both Angela and Roland reject and break the cycle of violence and death that plagues every District and Wing, thus prompting The Head to act against a choice that 'only a Human could made' and 'Far from one that a inhabitant of The City would make', thus they become in itself, an Impurity of the City that must be removed for it has no place in it, Impuritas Civitatis. This notably doesn't Happen in Angela's Bad Ending, where The Library continues even stronger, with more death and destruction, only ending when a Bookhunter---Not an Arbiter/Claw---Kills Angela.
After more than 1 year i finnaly see the ending. I started my first french stream end of march, starting LOR as my main game and finished Library of Ruina today. It was an amazing game. I may make a mod with a special orignal character of mine...but anyways, let's enjoy the warm light.
A year late but, i'm more curious about the claw's ranks, it actually felt fascinating to me. Claws are already powerful enough, but having ranks or position is really interesting, which is the strongest of claw? What other roles of claws can there be? I sincerely hope they explore that more.
The strongest claw is The Claw, obviously. It is explained that the legal side of the city is controlled by three people, each of who control one of the three ruling corporations. The Head, who controls A Corp and has agents called Arbiters. The Eye, who controls B Corp, and has agents called Beholders. And The Claw, who controls C Corp, and has agents called Claws. Since the top claw is also called a Claw, I think it is likely that the strongest claw gets to control C Corp, and get to be called The Claw. (Although the text might refer to claws in general, meaning that the claws don't have a single leader)
@@nikolaysitnikov796 I think the strongest non-head claws are the executioner claws like the one that we see here (not the one in Lobotomy Corp) but there may be stronger, idk
@@thegoldenraysoftheglorious1180 Potentially. With new evidence, I think that the Head is not a triumvirate, but a dictatorship, with the government split into three branches all controlled by the Head. After all, they are just the enforcers of the Head's will. On the topic of why the Head makes the decisions it does: I believe that the Head's main goal is the continued existence of the City. They believe that a purely capitalistic system is best for remaining stable over the years. Every Star & Wing meets its end someday, but the City will continue chugging along as it always have. So, the Head keeps an army of Arbiters and Claws in order to remove anyone who dares disturb the eternal cycle of the City. The Head knew that there must be a limit to the deadliness of wars or the population will be destroyed, so it made residences off-limits to crime. It knew that monopolies would never die and free their spot for someone new, so they created strict patent laws. It knew that non-human intelligences could see through this faster than a human, so it banned them. That's why the Head never fights against the Distortions or the Stars of the City. Because their existence will let others rise and continue the cycle. However, Angela refused to become human and become part of the cycle, so the Head labelled her an Impurity and evicted her.
@@thegoldenraysoftheglorious1180i mean maybe it is because in lobotomy they are being nuked by, like seven ALEPH agents, each having like 1/20 power of The red mist(Who have killed a lot of Abnormalities breaching, killed TWO claws AND gave An Arbiter fatal blow). I think baral is just like that one claw that was unfortunate enough to be sent into lobotomy corporation during the midnight.
To be fair they came after dealing with the uninvited guests, then a color challenging the whole library after, then previous uninvited guests distorting. Nobody was in a condition to fight, even the claw guy said that upfront to Roland. But they still held their own against an arbiter and claw despite already being severely fatigued.
But still if they were weakened from post ensemble and black silence and again ensemble and the only people that were able to fight against the arbiter and claw were binah roland and gebura then how would they even stand a chance against the head
@@aisir3725 I think it makes sense though. As angela put it earlier, she was letting go of a lot of things, as in her abilities. And we lost the keypages because we let them go. So we wouldn't have any cards to use... Kinda.
so yeah, we still have the distortion bullshit but we have the E.G.O users to deal with them, so basically the entire city became a L.Corp normal day, the next game will be fun, we willl probably be the new 13 association
@@KIRILLAND man, warp trains are an absolute ticking time bomb for distortions to start popping up, aren’t they? And I don’t mean the weaklings, I mean high WAWs, like the Pianist, and ALEPHs. The City has never seen an Aleph, I wonder what their first will be?
@@15stargamer98 a warp train with an ALEPH-level distortion is going to be trouble for the cleaning team and it's not like they can hire R corp anymore
@@PWLfr well... Uh so do you remember what Angela said around the end before the final reception? She Did say that all who were turned into a book would be returned to the city... Or the outskirts. Which could result in... various problems. Such as ... Finn with an EGO,.P H I L I P, the blue bitch and... Wait. WAIT. The library has the book of the red mist. ! THE LIBRARY HAD THE BOOK OF THE RED MIST! SHIT! AND XIAO! AND YAN! AND ALL THE OTHER BOSSES! OH GOD!!!!!!
Frankly, despite how strong the Arbiter and the Claw was they were not invulnerable. I'm sure with the right setup we could defeat them with our current strength. The problem is that we returned all of the light back. Therefore, this battle is unrealistic to win. But I am sure we will meet with these guys again and then the fight will not be so one-sided. I have only one question, are we going to play again as Angela and Roland? Or will we will play as the organization that the Purple Tear creates?
PM have said they want to move on from the sephira and do other things in the world. Not a garauntee, artists change their mind all the time but I would suspect future games handle a world with light and the people dealing with it.
True, but we need to recognise that the Head are opportunists. They only came for us at our weakest and it's unlikely that we can have at them while we're strong, cause they'll just Serum W away or something.
@@lastaeon174 Or in their eyes, they're the protagonist. Perhaps it is actually true that in a sense they were the protagonist, and the Head actually originated from a bright and idealistic group of people, but eventually devolved into this. I mean they did have a whole speech about how Angela, becoming the person that she is, is what an ideal human should be, but since she's a machine, they have to send her to Brazil
It has a much more complex emotion than that. It's arrogance. They have a total advantage over the Library at this moment; and trying to push the message that you aren't going to win against them.
You may have come to strike us down at the most conveniently opportune moment when we are most exhausted of resources... But don't think for a second that our determination to protect the library and it's inhabitant librarians and ALL the books worth of knowledge resigning in it will falter! We'll face you all head on and survive for a happy ending towards this conclusion!! Your move, Mr.Claw and Mrs.Arbiter!!!
>Implying that the Head is going to allow us have the rewards. "Lol" *teleports out the Claw and The Arbiter* said the Head *Teleports the entire wing outside* -"Lmao"
This theme is amazing, but...the fact that it only plays for literally 1 Scene (as Baral will seem to always push Roland to the threshold for Gebura to show up on Scene 1 because Serum W go brrrrrrrrr) kinda sucks.
There isn't a treshold. In the past it used to play for 2 scene because Gebura was scripted to come on the start of turn 3. Now she is scripted to be here at the start of the second scene. So the theme get pushed for just 1 turn. And to be honest the theme switch make no sense. It's trying to show you, that you can push though this. But in truth I think making the head team stay it would show that even with The Black Silence, The Red mist and An old arbiter. You are no match and you are just holding on to stop them from killing angela before the library is moved out.
2개의 유료겜 스토리를 이해해야 플레이가능한 게임은 뉴비들이 유입할 수 없음 프문도 인지한다면 후속작은 완전 먼 미래에 나오거나 퀄이 떨어져서 나올수도 있음 ....이게 맞나싶다 진짜... +)L사랑 연구소이야기 끝이라고 하니까 아마 세계관만 이어지고 롭톱이랑 도서관 안해도 스토리 이해할수있게 만들것 같음
....i just realized that deporting us out of the city didnt solve anything for the head...as the invitations can still be sent because they will always be sent to the person it is intended towards, so not only the head didnt change anything...we might get that veangence train chugging someday
Their main goal was to get rid of Angela. Now she’s out of the city I’m sure they don’t mind much. If they do then they’ll definitely pull something more drastic later
considering how even carmen’s plan actually working wasn’t important enough to be considered a threat, I don’t think the head care if a few people die to some dumb library in the middle of nowhere
@@TruKave well the main plan of action for the librarians is to return to the city and wreck the head...so feeding it anything would basically be a bad idea eventually and im pretty sure the library got plenty of time for sure, unless the head counter plans that
@@ilikethebluesky101 we've already seen that even when the library was left to grow for as long as it could in angela's ending, it still just wasn't even close to enough to actually harm the city or the head
what's even more scary is Roland and Gebura weren't at full strength zena and baral would have gotten clapped hard since they are monsters even among the colors Roland being one of the legendary 12 fixers and Gebura being the strongest fixer ever known in terms of physical strength.
@@w0g258 what's more scarey is baral is much much stronger than the standard issued claws and claws are no joke it took a small ego wielding army just to take down 1 standard issued claw that should show how much of a dam monster kali was in her prime. also the 12 fixers were said to be on par with claws and were even invited to under go the surgery to become one so i'm wondering if in limbus company we'll find out if any of them accepted the offer since what happened to the 12 fixers after the smoke war and the purge of L.corp is still a mystery.
@@Clivetdoom you are joking baral is just one of the claw that's all. and also director never said about the 12 fixers they're just member of Charles' Office
This was the fight that really showed the difference in strength between not only the librarians and the head, but also the difference between EVERYTHING we've seen so far and gebura, as well as the nuggets and abnormalities. A current color fixer, a weakened color fixer, and a weakened arbiter couldn't do anything but delay a claw and arbiter. The ALEPH nuggets (despite being untrained) could deathball a claw and arbiter, as well as being able to deathball ALEPH Abnormalities (while they're weakened by the qliphoth deterrence). Gebura could solo two claws, an arbiter, and every (still deterred) abnormality breaching at the same time (which MUST include nothing there since she wields mimicry). So all in all: ALEPH EGO is insanely powerful, Gebura really is "The Strongest", and the undeterred abnormalities must be even stronger.
Roland isn't exactly a current color fixer, he lost his original body when he his body got wrecked by Angela in the beginning, so we don't know if he retained his augments or not, ALSO he just finished fighting off Argalia as well. Roland was also stripped of his Colour status before the events of the game. There's no way he's in any condition to take them on even with a weakened Gebura and Binah. The Claw was only a conjured one and apparently not an Executioner Claw like Baral, so lower ranked. Mind you, it took the entire force of L.Corps pretty much BEST AGENTS to take them on. Not sure what you mean by untrained as I'm pretty sure that a lot of the best E.G.O. Gear had stat requirements. Gebura had Mimicry ever since it was given to her by Carmen after they managed to extract it from Nothing There. Gebura did take down two Claws and every Abnormality but actually lost to Garion. She only won because Garion got cocky when Gebura asked for a honourable death and surprise attacked her when she got close.
@@anri8986 Sorry, as a reply to your edit: Roland being as strong as a colour fixer is assumed owing to the fact that he can fight Blue Reverberation one on one. He also said in the story quite early on that he didn't actually have any augments if I remember correctly. He is weakened owing to the fact that he was just in a fight, but that was limited only to his health: His attacks were the same strength as always, and they weren't strong enough to deflect most attacks. Even if Roland was at the strongest we see him as the Black Silence, he wouldn't have been able to win one on one against Baral. The Claw being a conjured one, as it was an ordeal, actually means it was probably stronger than Baral, being an abnormality that's unaffected by Qliptoth deterrence. Agents being untrained is actually just what it says on the tin: They literally have no combat training, according to the manual. Gebura did lose, killing Garion only because she never shuts up, which if Zena is anything to go by might be a trait most arbiters have, so it'd probably work twice :P
@@TehCoopaTroopa Considering how the Red Mist and Arbiter are weaker during their boss fights in Lobotomy, it doesn't make any real sense to say that the Claw would somehow be stronger. Not to mention, it's a lower grade Claw to begin with. And sure, the Agents are untrained. I don't think you can really say they have no combat experience by the time their stats are leveled up to 5 or so and they're wielding EGOs. They're pretty much battle hardened veterans that had to survive being thrown into the deep end at that point.
@@generic120 Text in-game describes all of the ordeals as abnormalities that cannot be controlled, that only appear when the qliphoth deterrence fails. Following that logic, and by the fact that the qliphoth deterrence failing coincides with their appearance, it would make sense to assume that the fixers and the claw from the ordeals of white aren't actually humans sent by the head, but instead an abnormality like the rest of the ordeals. If this is true, and they are actually abnormalities without qliphoth deterrence, they would almost certainly be stronger than their original counterpart. The agents being battle hardened stats wise is true except for one exception: they never actually get stronger. While their health, sanity, and speed increase, their actual damage does not: a level 5 agent with the default weapon would deal the same amount of damage as a brand new agent, who has never had any form of combat experience. On top of that, actual combat in LC doesn't offer any growth to any stats, so while they're experienced at interacting with abnormalities and grow to prove it, their experience doesn't go any further than that. Both LC and LoR point out as well that when using EGO the wielder isn't consciously acting, its the EGO controlling them. In reality instead of giving them EGO to fight with, we've given the EGO people to puppet.
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“Angela, there’s a weird-looking stray cat outside the library! It looks just like Binah, the fucking thing.”
"ermmm akshually since you have a sentient ai here we're gonna have to evict you.."
"what?"
"Baral, show them Serum W."
BLINK MF, BLINK
Wait, wait, NO, NOT THAT KIND OF "BLINK"-
*Gets Serum-Warped*
I DONT WANT IT STARTING A FIGHT WITH GEBURA. ANGELA!
Have I been summoned?
@@Sancho_073 LIMBUUUUUS COMPAHNIIIIIE~
For your final reception, you will have to face the scariest thing of all. The true neutral dnd party
how are these guys true neutral? id place them somewhere evil
@@finnc3706 true neutral as in "full munchkin team who never cared about rp in first place"
@@akrabis8905 so murder hobos?
@@finnc3706 yep
@@finnc3706 i doubt you could say the head is evil in any capacity.
we literally no nothing about them and their motivation other than trying to keep the city a place where only humans thrive.
I love how instead of having a post credit cutscene, they decided to have an entire reception instead.
PM is just built different, and it also helps worldbuild to hint at how op the Head actually is, as if one of LobCorp’s bad endings didn’t do that well enough…
Makes me wonder how the head would go against other fandom associations, like the evils of humanity from fate or their grand servants, and things like that, since canonically each one of them have the power of a goddamn singularity @@WiseViper39
@@m1tl4y0tl If we're talking stuff like Angra Mainyu in Heaven's Feel I think one Arbiter would be able to deal with it easily, but I really doubt the Head is succeeding in a fight against any Grand Servant
@@confusedjay717thinking about it… honestly it seems doable for the head to live. The head has technology beyond a grand servant if we really think about it. The power class is a little unfair, I mean just on top my head he could utilize time itself, infinite energy, clones, the multiverse (mirrors), etc. The City is inherently unfair considering its in a time of post technological singularity and somehow society didnt implode on itself. I wouldnt be surprised if The Head just rejected petty things like “dying”.
The city has all this shit and is still weaker than some of other fiction power wise because PM knows how to not make a character or an association stupidly overpowered
Half the artistic aesthetic in this game is that even while dudes be like half-human with claws n shit, they still gotta be fresh to death in perfectly tailored suits.
so fucking elegant Xd
It's drip or drown, and they be drippin'
😎 exudan facha
and it's the best thing
The devil works hard but people like the Carnival work harder. Gotta supply all those syndicates and associations with drip.
"Baral wont even be that bad, he will probably spend 2 scenes charging up like the other claws in Loboto-"
*Sees Serum W being used on first scene*
Hes executioner rank yk
@Diavolo Jaegar an instant or an enternity?
@Diavolo Jaegar I dont know man that move have W in is name and the-land- we-shall-not-be-talked-about taught me that travel by W's Singularities take forever. Except if the Claw somehow have a better version of W's Singularities of course.
@Diavolo Jaegar No, warp isn't instaneous, on it's own, you also get the 2000Y/10S ratio. That's why the previous W corp died off, they couldn't find a way to make it usefull. Then the new W corp replaced the old one, getting it's warp singularity and combinning it with it's own singularity : the recombinning stuff. But it still turned out to not be enough to make it usefull, so they made a contract with T corp. The box installed in every train prevent decay and death, by preventing time from truly advancing, allowing them to get the excess time, preventing passengers from dying and the train from breaking down.
@@leopoldbullot8016 I just want to bring forth something. Warp trains dont take 2000 years to reach their destination. It took 2000 to get to the point where the townspeople raid the Library. After that the train keeps going for a bit before the puppets get sent to the Library and finally Puppeteer and Blood Red Night leave. We dont know how much time passes between that and the train reaching its destination, so the total amount could be way more.
If I had to guess, every second is 1000 years, which if true would mean taking a W Train means 10000 years.
You get your ass evicted.
NOT cause of extracting monsters and weapons from people’s minds, NOT cause of the 7 white nights, NOT cause of the distortions, NOT cause you butchered lots of people and turn them into books but because your director is a machine lol.
Robo racism at its finest lol
Yeah pretty shame ending.
And they didn't explained what is the source of 'beautiful voice' that people hear when they gonna distort or gain EGO
@@heartdaring1787 personally that wasent the ending for me the true ending was the fight with the Blue man group pt2 since its legitimately the ending for the character arc of Roland and Angela and the head showing up to a battle torn library to evict was the set up for the sequel. Personally I adored the ending and also the voices inside their head is basically the mind itself trying to tempt you into becoming a distortion but if you are able to fight it and strengthen your resolve you gain your EGO. It's also explained in Kalis book
@@heartdaring1787 Isnt it obvious that its Carmen though? She was connected to the origins of the world back in LC and created all the abnormalities. Since her stated was "neither dead or alive" Its only Logical that her connection to the origins stays the same and now after the White nights and Dark days, certain humans can get access to the origins of the world and Distort or Manifest ego. This is when Carmen tries to make People distort.
Its honestly more of a question "Whats your goal?" than anything and i really expected only this explained in the ending over anything else (I mean, at least we got more hints about whats the True goal of the Head). One of the proofs is the Tree analogy which the voice uses with Xiao. Carmen used such analogies back in Lob Corp Lab.
I don't care what the fuck are you doing to half the section, It was your boss was a fucking *Clanker* that is the real case!
-Arbitrary expelling & excommunication agency
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We love casting Serum W
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@@volt7162”DICE OPPOSING THIS ONE CANNOT BE RECYCLED” MESSIAH
Zena ingame: A member of the most feared organization in the series with the power to back it up
Zena in the fandom: Binah's bratty little sister that makes da funny faces
Bratty??!?
@@juicejooos arbiter correction needed 😤😤😤
Man.... she literally is budget-Garion. Also... her datamines show she only has 550hp and Stagger.... take away her plotarmor and say "Hahaha Roland, your wife is dead" and watch how fast those two die while he morbs. Let alone with Gebura and Binah on his side.
i mean for all we know she could actually be like that under all the fancy
She smug
Don't you hate it when someone breaks into your house with a whole hobo gang, you beat them up and then your best friend decides to murder you, then after beating into him some senses you see the hobo gang just coming back for round 2, and after that some officials just shows up and eject you to Brazil?
Yeah, I know the feeling.
Wait. Eject? 😳😳😳😳
@@mgamer1703 amongus
@@mgamer1703 To Outskirt, if that "word" is good for Brazil. Whole Nest just teleported by "Eyes" from City to protect all humans even if City is just ... another City in World (you`ll get voice message from Purple Tear, talking with West and East Hana Base about EGO users unite)
What a rough day
They also did it for a (relatively?) small offense
At least they deported you instead of killing everyone
The head has excellent taste in women.
In claws too...
And in holographic white static too
Agree, Luda is very beautiful
@@muhammadihsanyarda5409 It looks like coom trapped in aquarium bruh
@@fentanylandfriends LMAO
Roland: _Finally puts Argalia down like the dog he is, everyone celebrates and thinks it's finally over._
Baral & Zena & Beholder: "We are, The Law!"
More like "nobody expects the City's inquisition"
“Allow us to introduce ourselves“
Law-Jaw moment
An Executioner, a Cat, and the IRS walk into a bar..
@@cylnder
"Get the fuck out of my library!"
"YOU get the fuck out of my city!"
People joke about the Outskirts being Brazil, but let's be honest: The City is the real Brazil.
I mean...yeah.
Backstreets favela moment
The backstreet maybe. It still has better technology and education than Brazil in the Nest. Outskirt to me is either the Middle East or Africa.
@@bufan7177 well there's the photo of the rich building right at the side of a favela, basically nest and backstreets
@@bufan7177 bruh you never saw the wealthy districts in Brazil lmao, theres places that are literally nests
I liked the part where Baral sent Roland barreling through all 10 Floors with that W Serum attack.
28-28 terrifies me
Now it's 30-30, be afraid
@@seiun7833 *oh fu-*
@@Soir3997 *plays Roundabout*
@@seiun7833 which really sucks- it meant that you could counter it with Geb's Vertical split with a small chance.
First time I did this fight I managed to roll exactly the right number to not only counter W serum- but also hit baraal with it. I didn't realize how that wasnt a guarantee unless I rolled lower.
I know everyone is mentioning this but I love how the most powerful soldiers/ agents in the city look the best. I mean, look at how snazzy Baral and Zena look.
I see whoever replaces Binah inherits her snazzy fashion sense
Isn't that just the generic Arbiter uniform
@@mrex666productions7 It is. All arbiters are augmented with a singularity.
@@Dememenic so all arbiters are ultra-verbose addicts with some _snazzy_ uniforms?
@@Alice-he2zh it seems to be the case, the head has a very specific fetish then
@@Alice-he2zh LOL, yeah
A witch, some hand- implanted cybord and The ring ghost in a jar
I just realized that the Head's wings represent the 3 bird abnormalities we all know and love/hate
Arbiter = Judgement Bird
Beholder = Big BIrd
Claw = Punishing Bird
Huh, a trio who only intended to protect the forest, only to become the monster living in the dark forest. Sound suspiciously the City to me
3 combines into one...
Yeah if to judge Binah's abnormality theme are birds and shes like old arbiter
so that means
the head = apocalypse bird
@@zenowolfpirate1442 apocalypse bird => combined their forces to protect the very forest they'd come to threaten as a monster.
The Head => tried to stop the creation of an AI by destroying lobotomy's lab leading to the creation of that very same AI.
The parallels keep on coming
Good attention to detail, I guess they were foreshadowing with them this whole time, I wouldn't have noticed that
Years from now, when we somehow face the Head again in another game, I hope the music that plays is a callback to this.
But cheerier, because finally we can beat it.
It would be awesome to have this being a real like 3-5min long proper ost, and we actually have to fight like just a normal Claw, which probably will still kick our butts in whichever game it shows up in.
The Head has had a different OST in both the games they've shown up; both bangers in their own right. I'm sure whenever we see them next we'll get a completely different track that tops the previous yet again. PM almost seems obsessed with one upping themselves
OH YES PLEASE. I would fangirl all over that.
Imagine serum W in Limbus Company
This is about as happy an ending PM could give us while still having the room to make the third game, so I respect this.
The Librarians are all safe and sound, Binah decided to cast her lot with the Library despite having a reasonably easy way out to betray Angela, Roland and Angela both went through their worst issues... it seems that the third game will see them all as stronger, more adjusted people, ready for anything the Head and the Fixers would throw at them.
Unlikely, PM have said publicly they want to move on from the sephira cast and do other things in the world.
@@GrimoireOfAlice though it seems we can get to see them again someday
It's not like Binah can come back with them
I'm pretty sure the only fate waiting for her there is a more thorough decommissioning
We won't see them anymore at least not as playable characters. A bit sad because I really liked this cast and this battle system, I'm wary of a first person dungeon crawler with a different cast even.
@@ilikethebluesky101 Maybe not but this turn based card-dice game was very fresh and nice to see combined to just push them aside.
SUCH A SHAME THAT NOW YOU ONLY GET TO HEAR THIS FOR ONLY ONE SCENE.
로보토미 시절 발톱: 아몬드라고 부르지 마세요 ㅠ
라오루 발톱: 거기서 손가락 하나라도 까딱하는 순간 찢.긴.다
결론적으로 로보토미에서 도서관되면서 직원들과 환상체들이 아주 많이 약해졌다는게 학계의 정설
간지를 위해 성능을 팔아먹은 아몬드 좌 (주황혈청 어디갔습니까)
@@연대기지능 그래서 지금은 주황도 쓰게 패치됨
@@striea0421 오오오
@@i_am_gualnol 맞음 환상체는 사실상 전부 죽기 직전인거 겨우 숨만 붙여놓은 상태고 전작 직원들은 다 EGO로 성능 뻥튀기된거였음
As what we've learned from the artbook, this is actually a scrapped concept track of what the Floor of Philosophy _could_ have sounded like. Interesting, huh?
damn shame, would've loved a lot more intensity but the current ones are good
It definitely fits Zena's more arrogant personality.
This is a great backing track to Roland getting yeeted across the entire goddamned library
It really do be sounding like Binah's floor theme, but that's probably for a very obvious reason
Seeing their cards rolls and realizing that they weren't even using their fucking passives and already were bonkers as fuck made me fucking terrified
Yeah that 28-28 roll on a 3-cost is very out yhere
@@melodywawichi802 even gebura has a low chance of out rolling that sadly
@@darkraven2983 yes but that's a 5-cost page
@@melodywawichi802 and the only way to increase the cost of that page is bina's lock. And sadly there's no way to win against that you have to win a previous class in order to increase its cost
@@darkraven2983 lock only effects 4 costs and up so you can’t even make it more expensive.
Well, it's here.
We finally faced the head, not as a mere Illusion im Ayin's memory, but a real one.
We are here, at the end of everything, and the new library is here, everyone survived, the light is shed across tje city.
Thanks, Project Moon for another Masterpiece, and hope to see you guys in the next journey.
For now, the curtains has closed for the library
The curtain closes, but it shall open again, and when it does, will it be on a scene known or unknown?
The light has finally fully shone down on The City, and now it seems that peoples’ abilities to manifest and control EGO have been expanded. Possibly, more people can manifest their EGO? But, so too have the potential strength of distortions. The Pianist was a high WAW-rating, remember? I wonder if anyone will ever distort aboard a warp train, perhaps? All that emotional turbulence in one area is going to cause the line between EGO and distortion to blur heavily, and the duress and duration of the period are unrivaled elsewhere in the city. It’s a ticking time bomb of distortions waiting to happen.
@@15stargamer98 admittedly though, if the distortion happens on the warp train and manages to break the walls, all the passengers including the distortion will be yeeted out into the space anyways
See you in LimBUS.
세계의 비밀을 능히 다룬다 그것이야말로 머리와 눈 그리고 발톱이 지닌 절대적인 힘이다
감히 그들 앞에 설수 없으며 그들이 있는한 둥지의 이야기는 끝나지 않으리라
머리에게 이기는것도 지는것도 다 이상한 세계관에서 제법 설득력있는 전개였음
imagine we get to fight the head again in another project moon game, and they play this song, but not as an extended loop, but as like a 3 minute+ version with different phases...
please project moon...
And after all that, Roland finally found the book of drip.
And all this makes me wonder what exactly happened to the beings in the Outskirts.
Are there raving gangs of nonhumans outside the walls? Perhaps some of them are smart enough to wonder what the walls are for. Who knows, maybe they're looking for a prosthetic body to reach the other side.
*Book of Mo, Book of Alloc, Book of Gloria...*
Can't believe the Claw and Arbiter brought their jar experiment that gained life to the eviction fight and we didn't even get to see it. More seriously though great finale.
Well yea it's the eye, it doesn't fight.
I think it was there to record everything that happened
@@helloneighbour2408 I figure that it’s the reason we can’t see Baral and Zena’s HP or Stagger values, like it’s somehow messing with our perception of them.
Luda was too busy finalizing the procedure to evict The Library to fight
Jesus, the head would be a nightmare to face in Lob Corp, considering how they were able to easily face off against binah, Roland, and gebura; Which, I don’t even want to think about fighting basically two red mists and an arbiter at the same time.
They were weakened due to fighting the Reverberation Ensemble...that and Gebura wasn't at her strongest, when she was Kali, she carved her way through a number of abnormalities, TWO claws and with one arm, she and Garion killed each other.
An Arbiter and The Claw are decent threats in Lobcorp but you can just Paradise Lost them to death in an easy 1v1 as long as you don't care about Abnos escaping / others dying
Roland fought the Reverb for a week straight, Binah barely got her powers back and Gebura is the furthest thing from top condition. Now I'm not downplaying these 3, they are probably the strongest characters that we know of in this universe right now.
@@helloneighbour2408 how did Roland fight the reverb for a week when his previous fight was with argalia and not die? 💀
@@erenja3ger871 library maaaaaagic
POV: You finally meet The Claw, but PM won't let you beat IT like last time
Technically your fighting a Executioner Claw from what I heard in the discord.
The Duviri you are right, it appears that Executioner Claw is a high rank.
@@misterfulcrum1888 the low rank virgin vs the high rank Chad
It wasnt even a real claw since thats Just the manifestation of the fear of the head technically (The white midnight if thats what you mean)
POV: The Claw sends you to Brasil with *S E R U M W*
열화되지 않은 충격파 위력을 보고 조율자가 얼마나 강하고 무서운 존재인지 깨달은..
그래도 의외인 건 조율자가 응시자와 처형자를 하대하진 않네요
조율자가 더 계급이 높은줄알았는데 서로 계급이 비슷하거나 크게는 차이가 나지않나보네용
@@nowzero442 아무래도 서로 역할 분담을 하다보니 자연스럽게 수평적으로 가는 거 아닐까 싶네요
같은 머리 소속이니 그럴지도.
그야 셋 다 생각해보면 다른 부서 부장들인데 하대를어캐해요
하대가 생기는 순간 권력은 한쪽으로 쏠리기에 평등한 관계가 맞긴하죠
비장하거나 웅장함보다는 숨이 막힐 정도의 위압감.
감히 머리의 앞에 서지 말라는 듯한 느낌. 커팅된 느낌도 있는데 이거 풀버전 나오면 대박이겠는데;;
개인적으로는 끊긴 느낌이 롤랑을 죽이기 전에 게부라가 나타나 브금을 끊는 연출 아닐까 하는 생각이라서
I read somewhere that the City became what it is after a war against sentient machines, with the Head taking over and establishing the law that no sentient machines would be built. With the sheer power their minions have, their uncaring attitude to the rest of humanity, and their only major interventions happening when a major change in all the misery the City wallows in, what kind of person must they be?
Yet why does the Head's usually uncaring attitude changes completely when sentient machines are on the line? When Argalia and his cronies ravage the City nothing happens.
Why does he send an Arbiter to destroy Angela, the sole real AI in the City?
What if he isn't allowing these machines to even appear not because he wants to keep the City "human", but for another ghastly motive? What if the Head itself is nothing but one of these machines?
Their orders of the destruction of all sentient machinery aren't to maintain purity. It's to cull the competition.
That's very interesting actually. I don't remember reading this but when you put it this way, it makes a lot of sense. Hell, a machine culling the population makes more sense than mankind genociding all machines. I'd like to see where this goes actually. Do you know where this is mentioned? Because now you have my interest.
(Here I was wondering what kind of idiot the guy who leads The Head might be lmfao)
Yeah, I personally like to think that the Head itself is a psychopathic AI creating the city just to observe what happens- and prevent anything from disrupting it. Especially when Zena mentions 'disrupting the ecology [they've] so carefully created.
@@lampaddict7885 That's one possibility, if so, this AI doesn't want any competition.
Wow
To be honest, we know nothing of the Outskirts, and even the Ruins. Theres so much there that is not controlled by humans that its scary
Me last week: Wow I can't believe we might end up getting a happy ending after all.
This week with the Head Eye Claw: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
but still happy end is achieved
Sure, pretty happy...
But not for Manager, Hokma, Carmen, whole City, Outskirts and Nest lmao
@@suwote I disagree. Ayin,Carmen and Hokma got what they wanted, the light is spread. The people who went to the library may have gotten Ego. The only ones who didn't get what is beneficial to them is Angela.
@@Choccymilkshakeenjoyer yeah, I replayed that part and know that I'm wrong, sorry
@@suwote No need to be sorry.
Hopefully we get to see our librarian duo in the future ;; Imma miss them...
Smells like they might be villains in the RPG type they prototyped, if that is the one Iori leads
@@jiggly821 Though if Roland's account is any indication, Iori might need Angela alive for something.
Yet...these some the they haven't answer yet...(How did Lisa become Tiph-A/Whereabouts of C/The last suppression/Mars' mom/4 sociations left...and there should be *more...*
@@404_浮紙 lisa probably died during the arbiter attack or she voluntarily became a seph to be with enoch again, c is the nervous system from day 50, if you mean the last keter realization thats probably the final decision/the black silence reception, as for the rest yea those haven't been answered yet
@@kamainu8934 Jokes aside...😅
Actually,this ending fits the story(& what's going on),but far from our expect(after a week times waiting)...
세계의 비밀을 능히 다룬다. 그것이야말로 머리와 눈 그리고 발톱의 특권이자 그들의 절대적인 무력이다.
감히 그들 앞에 설 수 없으며, 그들이 있는 한 둥지의 이야기는 끝나지 않을 것이다.
Well boys we did it.
Head or bust, and we didnt bust.
One of the most solid OST, used in a single scene in a single fight
Well people were complaining about not seeing the head yet.
Well, here they are!
@@EE-ij9ft they are just temporary
@@hellatze the company of 10 other librarians is eternal
I complain that the fight was short, scripted and let a sour taste of having them winning after all we went through.
@@Merotryz Its literally the Head, Roland was basically dead after fighting Argalia for a week, and both Gebura and Binah are weakened.
The Head is quite literally our big bads. This shows we need alot more work to begin to stand to them.
금기를 깬 댓가를 받으러 온 처형인들 이라는 느낌이라 해야 하나,
BGM은 그야말로 마지막 전투를 표현한 느낌이네요.
And so, here we are.
At the end of a long journey.
And a brand new begining...(If P.M won't forgot it ,thuo...
I like, despite how this is actually the enemies’ theme, it sounds so heroic and uplifting, as if driving forward that The Head is great, and we are the ones at fault (which isn’t entirely wrong, causing the potential collapse of at least 2 other Wings, 3 Associations, and 2 Fingers). Really further drives the point that most city denizens approve of and support The Head, which makes us, in this case, an enemy of The City itself. Also what’s with Arbiters being very gentle in the way they speak, is it meant to convey a ‘you did well, now rest’ type feeling?
It does feel like, 'congratulations for winning this little game here, now it is time to move on'. I mean, Arbiters are called like that for a reason after all....
This is more of conveying a glorious final fight; though this battle is unwinnable (because Pmoon knows that violence itself, let alone of a few, doesn't magically cure the systematic problems) it is a battle between the system and people who have trascended the endless cycle of violence, hatred and suffering that the system has brought to them.
Roland, Angela and the sephirah have achieved their enlightment and forgiven each other (tree of life symbolism and all that) and can finally face correctly their overlords oppressors; what the game is trying to convey is that only after facing one's self, achieving our own awakening, and understanding how we contribute the corruption and pain of it all, the system can be faced head-on.
@@kit7951 Except this the City so none of that matters, get folded by the system idiots (being the Librarians) no seriously, the Head was just toying with the Library, pretty sure it’s implied that Zena and Baral weren’t trying and Luda didn’t even fight, and I’m willing to bet that if she had/used Dieci tech, she’d be right there with Zena
@@WiseViper39Thats your headcanon. The Head explicitly wanted Angela dead, if not then expelled along with the library. They clearly failed the former and thus went with the later.
The Beholder is clearly a support and information role, never once has a beholder been seen in a combat station. Like the attack on the outskirts lab, Lobotomy Corp, and library, arbiters and claws are the combatants. Beholders are meant to monitor taxes and gather information after all.
발톱 연출이랑 조율자 충격파 연출은 아직도 충격이다...
이것이 인디게임이다.
엔딩도 충격이다.
@@gusjin450 그래도 스토리 부실한건 고친다고 합니다
@@특수한꿈 그래서 기대중임
@@gusjin450 업뎃이 늦어질수록 더욱 맛있는 업뎃이..!
처음부터 벽으로서 만들어진 존재네...비장한 것보다 웅장하고 위압감...말 그대로 전 붉은안개, 전 특색, 전 조율자까지 있는데 쳐발리는 머리의 압도적인 강함. 대적하지 못할 순수한 벽...
로보토미에서도 머리(발톱)은 감히 그 앞에 설 수 없다고 했을 정도. 대사 하나하나도 머리에 대적해 봤자 밟히는 건 너희라는 식이니...
비나 보스전에서도 내앞에 서지말거라라고 말하죠
감히 대적할수없는 압도적인 무력을 전작에서도 이번작에서도 보여주는듯..
발톱두마리,조율자한명,클포억제 풀린 환상체들 모두 조진 칼리는 ㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷ
@@QTkitten환상체 발톱까지는 칼리의 능력안이였으나 조울자만큼은 칼리의 능력 완전밖이었음 방심만안했으면 비나가 노뎀으로 끝냈지
it just occur to me that the head can intervene anytime, like ANYTIME since the library causes so much chaos and distortion everywhere in the city, yet they remained silent somehow. angela, no everyone might assume that they needed just to observe more about the library by sending wings in one by one to investigate and see the result, but not on my book. and this is where my opinion started:
The head somehow benefited from library. it just comes weird to me that they only and ONLY take action against library when angela comes out back into her robotic form, not the perfected human form she was before she let go of everything, heck they even let her be for another 13 YEARS if she decided to kill roland in one of the bad ending. it lead me to believe that the abnormality that the library causes make more of the citizen to have more power either by distortion/E.G.O/ even singularity that the city can control (presumably A corp singularities to control mind or smth). however since angela let loose of the very benefited part that the head needed, they sees the library has lost its purpose, giving them reason to yeet her and the library out with AI law shit or smth.
Tbf in the angela ending she's an human, and binah is dead
(Also like the light being spread out potentially made the head react)
@@olixx1213 If I am being honest the Head didn't give a damn when Ayin did that stuff, so they wouldn't give a damn if Angela did it either.
@@casualkris4806The Head only intervene if Angela stay as robot
Someone had pointed out that The Library contributed heavily to the cycle of suffering that The City and The Head seem to thrive on, seen in how they allow and even justify the Distortion Phenomena, Sweepers and even worse things. At the end of the game, when the light is returned however that changes, both Angela and Roland reject and break the cycle of violence and death that plagues every District and Wing, thus prompting The Head to act against a choice that 'only a Human could made' and 'Far from one that a inhabitant of The City would make', thus they become in itself, an Impurity of the City that must be removed for it has no place in it, Impuritas Civitatis.
This notably doesn't Happen in Angela's Bad Ending, where The Library continues even stronger, with more death and destruction, only ending when a Bookhunter---Not an Arbiter/Claw---Kills Angela.
헤세드가 A사에 들어갈 수 있었을지도 모른다고 했는데 그러면 조율자 형아가 되는거야?
전투를 담당하는 복지팀 킹능성 있음!
사상교육받지 않을까?
어허 뒷골목 블랜딩을 모르십니까?
아니면 아인도 카르멘 없었으면 조율자로 취직했을수도?
@@모형탑훈련11m ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
다음 작품이 기대되는 엔딩이였다...
After more than 1 year i finnaly see the ending. I started my first french stream end of march, starting LOR as my main game and finished Library of Ruina today. It was an amazing game. I may make a mod with a special orignal character of mine...but anyways, let's enjoy the warm light.
Wow that's literally me
Yes, that's you
IS THAT ZENA AND CARMEN FROM THE HIT GAMES LIBRARY OF RUINA AND LOBOTOMY CORP❗️❗️❗️
Omg Zena Im your biggest fan
I love how smug the Arbiter (I dunno the exact title) is
its been an amazing journey, but all things must come to an end. i hope whenever projectmoon makes their next game we all come back for it
BOY DO I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU
접대하면서 느낀것:묘의 기량 마려움
그래서 넣어드렸습니다 ^^
이벤트 전이자 1년간의 여정의 마무리 그리고 추방
and to think they weren't even using their passives, this was all raw dice and hp
Is sad that we didn't get Keter battle 3.
Edit: now I'm not sure if I'm sad that we got the Keter battle 3 theme.
We're getting it on the 30th
We got it
@@NaroOwO But at what cost?
A year late but, i'm more curious about the claw's ranks, it actually felt fascinating to me. Claws are already powerful enough, but having ranks or position is really interesting, which is the strongest of claw? What other roles of claws can there be? I sincerely hope they explore that more.
The strongest claw is The Claw, obviously. It is explained that the legal side of the city is controlled by three people, each of who control one of the three ruling corporations.
The Head, who controls A Corp and has agents called Arbiters.
The Eye, who controls B Corp, and has agents called Beholders.
And The Claw, who controls C Corp, and has agents called Claws.
Since the top claw is also called a Claw, I think it is likely that the strongest claw gets to control C Corp, and get to be called The Claw.
(Although the text might refer to claws in general, meaning that the claws don't have a single leader)
@@nikolaysitnikov796 I think the strongest non-head claws are the executioner claws like the one that we see here (not the one in Lobotomy Corp) but there may be stronger, idk
@@thegoldenraysoftheglorious1180 Potentially. With new evidence, I think that the Head is not a triumvirate, but a dictatorship, with the government split into three branches all controlled by the Head. After all, they are just the enforcers of the Head's will.
On the topic of why the Head makes the decisions it does: I believe that the Head's main goal is the continued existence of the City. They believe that a purely capitalistic system is best for remaining stable over the years. Every Star & Wing meets its end someday, but the City will continue chugging along as it always have.
So, the Head keeps an army of Arbiters and Claws in order to remove anyone who dares disturb the eternal cycle of the City. The Head knew that there must be a limit to the deadliness of wars or the population will be destroyed, so it made residences off-limits to crime. It knew that monopolies would never die and free their spot for someone new, so they created strict patent laws. It knew that non-human intelligences could see through this faster than a human, so it banned them.
That's why the Head never fights against the Distortions or the Stars of the City. Because their existence will let others rise and continue the cycle. However, Angela refused to become human and become part of the cycle, so the Head labelled her an Impurity and evicted her.
@@thegoldenraysoftheglorious1180i mean maybe it is because in lobotomy they are being nuked by, like seven ALEPH agents, each having like 1/20 power of The red mist(Who have killed a lot of Abnormalities breaching, killed TWO claws AND gave An Arbiter fatal blow).
I think baral is just like that one claw that was unfortunate enough to be sent into lobotomy corporation during the midnight.
@@vladsoloshchenko5551that claw is unrefined abnormalities
Took a while but I FINALLY got the achievement that is related to these jerks, survive the fight with no one getting KO'd.
도서관 부수고 시작하는 느낌인줄 알았는데 그냥 이벤트성 전투라서 아쉽네
People wanted a head reception.
We could not beat these three at all and they wanted to fight the head that is stronger than all 3 of them combined.
It would've been different if we weren't weakened post-Ensemble gauntlet, tbh
To be fair they came after dealing with the uninvited guests, then a color challenging the whole library after, then previous uninvited guests distorting. Nobody was in a condition to fight, even the claw guy said that upfront to Roland. But they still held their own against an arbiter and claw despite already being severely fatigued.
All we had is severely weakened Orlando, Binah and Geburah, no passives, no abno pages, no ego pages, no deckbuilding
But still if they were weakened from post ensemble and black silence and again ensemble and the only people that were able to fight against the arbiter and claw were binah roland and gebura then how would they even stand a chance against the head
@@aisir3725 I think it makes sense though. As angela put it earlier, she was letting go of a lot of things, as in her abilities. And we lost the keypages because we let them go. So we wouldn't have any cards to use... Kinda.
so yeah, we still have the distortion bullshit but we have the E.G.O users to deal with them, so basically the entire city became a L.Corp normal day, the next game will be fun, we willl probably be the new 13 association
@@KIRILLAND man, warp trains are an absolute ticking time bomb for distortions to start popping up, aren’t they?
And I don’t mean the weaklings, I mean high WAWs, like the Pianist, and ALEPHs. The City has never seen an Aleph, I wonder what their first will be?
@@15stargamer98 if the city's first ALEPH is something like WhiteKnight or Apoc bird then they're fucked.
@@15stargamer98 a warp train with an ALEPH-level distortion is going to be trouble for the cleaning team and it's not like they can hire R corp anymore
@@PWLfr well... Uh so do you remember what Angela said around the end before the final reception? She Did say that all who were turned into a book would be returned to the city... Or the outskirts. Which could result in... various problems. Such as ... Finn with an EGO,.P H I L I P, the blue bitch and... Wait. WAIT. The library has the book of the red mist. ! THE LIBRARY HAD THE BOOK OF THE RED MIST! SHIT! AND XIAO! AND YAN! AND ALL THE OTHER BOSSES! OH GOD!!!!!!
@@alexcollins9954 Philip died again after coming back. Basically the entire ensemble got killed during the fight to protect the light.
떡밥 다 풀릴려면 10년 기다려야하나? ㅋㅋㅋ
Frankly, despite how strong the Arbiter and the Claw was they were not invulnerable. I'm sure with the right setup we could defeat them with our current strength. The problem is that we returned all of the light back. Therefore, this battle is unrealistic to win. But I am sure we will meet with these guys again and then the fight will not be so one-sided.
I have only one question, are we going to play again as Angela and Roland? Or will we will play as the organization that the Purple Tear creates?
who knows?
but even if we did win against the one Arbiter and Claw... Head is just going to be like "send more lol"
PM have said they want to move on from the sephira and do other things in the world. Not a garauntee, artists change their mind all the time but I would suspect future games handle a world with light and the people dealing with it.
@@GrimoireOfAlice I hope that the tweet saying sephira doesn't include Angela and Roland.
@@GrimoireOfAlice Sounds interesting. I think I will be happy to play any game that will continue the story of this world.
True, but we need to recognise that the Head are opportunists. They only came for us at our weakest and it's unlikely that we can have at them while we're strong, cause they'll just Serum W away or something.
이 브금을 배경으로 이벤트가 아니라 진짜 접대 한번 나오고 다음에 이벤트 들어갔으면.. 좋았을텐데
노래도 노랜데 썸네일이 진짜 잘 뽑힌듯!
바랄은 뭔가 진짜 힘순찐같이 보이고 제나는 팔짱끼고 썸네일 속 눈빛이 마치
"ㅋ ㅈ밥들"처럼 멸시하는 듯한 특유의 조율자 포스가 나서 진짜 킹받음
And you thought Kokichi was robophobic
this sound like a more cheery version of binah's battle theme
It’s cheery because they know they can’t be beaten
@@lastaeon174 Or in their eyes, they're the protagonist.
Perhaps it is actually true that in a sense they were the protagonist, and the Head actually originated from a bright and idealistic group of people, but eventually devolved into this.
I mean they did have a whole speech about how Angela, becoming the person that she is, is what an ideal human should be, but since she's a machine, they have to send her to Brazil
Still can't beat how cheery Distorted Ensemble's theme is.
It has a much more complex emotion than that. It's arrogance. They have a total advantage over the Library at this moment; and trying to push the message that you aren't going to win against them.
lo-fi beats to get evicted to
You may have come to strike us down at the most conveniently opportune moment when we are most exhausted of resources... But don't think for a second that our determination to protect the library and it's inhabitant librarians and ALL the books worth of knowledge resigning in it will falter! We'll face you all head on and survive for a happy ending towards this conclusion!! Your move, Mr.Claw and Mrs.Arbiter!!!
We would rather die standing then live kneeling!!!
Big mistake for someone named the head cause we're coming for yours
*Proceeds to get yeeted through reality by the Claw*
>proceeds to get nuked from orbit
しかしこれでもまだ頭の戦力の氷山の一角に過ぎないだろうし…まさにAll…
頭「ロボットだけどほぼ人間になってる？ヨシ！、原型保ってないけど元人間？ヨシ！ロボットっぽいけど元人間？ヨシ！、ロボットから変身して人間になってたけどロボットに戻った？アウト！」と結構ガバガバな頭
me: I think we can take on head now, give us the head fight pm
PM: Okay have it
Me: Cool, I wonder how cool their rewards are
PM: Rewards?
PM: Ah, "Rewards"! Title Screen with "Game Over" on Outskirt background is OK?
>Implying that the Head is going to allow us have the rewards.
"Lol" *teleports out the Claw and The Arbiter* said the Head *Teleports the entire wing outside* -"Lmao"
"your reward? gtfo the city."
Love that Hugo Boss Coat on Baral.
아트북 보니까 이게 비나3페 브금 후보 중 하나였다가 제나가 더 어울릴거 같아서 바꾼거라던데 현비나 3페를 이거로 바꾸면 ㅈㄴ 현란할거같다
POV: You are going to Brazil
Head eye Cake
아쉬웠지만 연출만은 대단했다
Ten years i hope in 10 years they come back
This theme is amazing, but...the fact that it only plays for literally 1 Scene (as Baral will seem to always push Roland to the threshold for Gebura to show up on Scene 1 because Serum W go brrrrrrrrr) kinda sucks.
There isn't a treshold. In the past it used to play for 2 scene because Gebura was scripted to come on the start of turn 3.
Now she is scripted to be here at the start of the second scene. So the theme get pushed for just 1 turn.
And to be honest the theme switch make no sense. It's trying to show you, that you can push though this. But in truth I think making the head team stay it would show that even with The Black Silence, The Red mist and An old arbiter. You are no match and you are just holding on to stop them from killing angela before the library is moved out.
2개의 유료겜 스토리를 이해해야 플레이가능한 게임은 뉴비들이 유입할 수 없음 프문도 인지한다면 후속작은 완전 먼 미래에 나오거나 퀄이 떨어져서 나올수도 있음 ....이게 맞나싶다 진짜...
+)L사랑 연구소이야기 끝이라고 하니까
아마 세계관만 이어지고 롭톱이랑 도서관 안해도 스토리 이해할수있게 만들것 같음
이걸 IP 삼아서 미디어믹스가 나오지않으면 뉴비유입은... 힘들지도 모르겠습니다.
플러스 소설까지 .......
원더랩 뒤탐 다 연결되는 세계관이면 ㅅㅂ 그냥 안봄
@@user-pv8wr4tq4f 오히려 지금 만화나 소설같은게 더 나와야하지 않음?
@@user-pv8wr4tq4f 다 연결됨
뽕 100%
90%
80%......
아쉽지만 그만큼 연출은 대박이였다
적 조율자 맘에들엇는데 후속작에서 죽을려나
아니 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 목소리는 그럼 도대체 뭐였지 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 나도 좀 들어보고 싶다 그 목소리
@스페 아니 잔향이가 말하던 존나게 아름다운 목소리 말하는거
@@Gaju_Reuu 그래서 총류 완개 업뎃되면서 목소리 정체 풀어냄
zena looks charming, help me
Your not the only one
She do looks, maybe Company A picks arbiters whose appearance are attractive XD
@@daylight0547 it's probably part of the plan to get people's attention...
제나 눈나 헤으응...
믿습니다......프문.....
Beautiful music, just like the game itself
이 채널도 프문 신작이 나올 때까지는 정적일텐데 옛날 로보토미 브금 올리시는건 어떠세요?
로보토미 시작화면 브금 듣고 싶당
고마웠다 라오루!
Hardest shit ive ever had while listening to this
This sounds a lot like Binah phase 2 and three. Fitting since Binah was once an arbiter too.
....i just realized that deporting us out of the city didnt solve anything for the head...as the invitations can still be sent because they will always be sent to the person it is intended towards, so not only the head didnt change anything...we might get that veangence train chugging someday
Their main goal was to get rid of Angela. Now she’s out of the city I’m sure they don’t mind much. If they do then they’ll definitely pull something more drastic later
@@Stormimi i guess you are right
considering how even carmen’s plan actually working wasn’t important enough to be considered a threat, I don’t think the head care if a few people die to some dumb library in the middle of nowhere
@@TruKave well the main plan of action for the librarians is to return to the city and wreck the head...so feeding it anything would basically be a bad idea eventually and im pretty sure the library got plenty of time for sure, unless the head counter plans that
@@ilikethebluesky101 we've already seen that even when the library was left to grow for as long as it could in angela's ending, it still just wasn't even close to enough to actually harm the city or the head
what's even more scary is Roland and Gebura weren't at full strength zena and baral would have gotten clapped hard since they are monsters even among the colors Roland being one of the legendary 12 fixers and Gebura being the strongest fixer ever known in terms of physical strength.
Also considering that former Kali killed two of those claws back in the old L corp
@@w0g258 what's more scarey is baral is much much stronger than the standard issued claws and claws are no joke it took a small ego wielding army just to take down 1 standard issued claw that should show how much of a dam monster kali was in her prime.
also the 12 fixers were said to be on par with claws and were even invited to under go the surgery to become one so i'm wondering if in limbus company we'll find out if any of them accepted the offer since what happened to the 12 fixers after the smoke war and the purge of L.corp is still a mystery.
@@Clivetdoom where's the source for this claim about the twelve fixers being offered the Claw-surgery procedure??
@@Clivetdoom you are joking baral is just one of the claw that's all. and also director never said about the 12 fixers they're just member of Charles' Office
Baral my beloved
in all seriousness, this has a striking resemblance to Binah battle 2
It was actually a draft for Binah's third theme, but this sounds much more like Zena than it does Binah.
불순물 들어오고 나서부터 급전개 된 느낌이 있엇지만 후속작이 3개나 있으니 존버해볼랍니다...
후속작이...3개라고요?
@@leesohun_40 예전 영상에서 각 후속작이 어떤 게임인지 설명해주는 영상이 있었는데 지금은 안보이네요...
@@내앞에고양이 아...진짜 한국의 fate가 되겠다는게 그냥 빈말이 아니었네요
그래서 롭토 직원들은 저런놈들을 무빙치면서 개패듯 잡았다는거지?
아 ㅋㅋ 사실 A가 제작한 대본으로 만든 열화판이라고요
@@leesohun_40 그래도 직원들은 특색 그 이상인걸로
황혼종이 발톱급이라고 들음 대충 특색급은 맞긴한데 딱 롤랑수준의 스펙임 황혼종이
@@모형탑훈련11m 특색들이 딱 바브급이라고 들었는디 붉은안개 제외하고
@@방지민-s5o 롤랑 경우 특색들 중에서도 상위권 실력자임 붉안 경우 발톱 2명을 조져버리잖슴 발톱이 알레프급인데 롤랑은 지친 상태에서도 버티잖슴
This was the fight that really showed the difference in strength between not only the librarians and the head, but also the difference between EVERYTHING we've seen so far and gebura, as well as the nuggets and abnormalities.
A current color fixer, a weakened color fixer, and a weakened arbiter couldn't do anything but delay a claw and arbiter.
The ALEPH nuggets (despite being untrained) could deathball a claw and arbiter, as well as being able to deathball ALEPH Abnormalities (while they're weakened by the qliphoth deterrence).
Gebura could solo two claws, an arbiter, and every (still deterred) abnormality breaching at the same time (which MUST include nothing there since she wields mimicry).
So all in all: ALEPH EGO is insanely powerful, Gebura really is "The Strongest", and the undeterred abnormalities must be even stronger.
Roland isn't exactly a current color fixer, he lost his original body when he his body got wrecked by Angela in the beginning, so we don't know if he retained his augments or not, ALSO he just finished fighting off Argalia as well. Roland was also stripped of his Colour status before the events of the game. There's no way he's in any condition to take them on even with a weakened Gebura and Binah.
The Claw was only a conjured one and apparently not an Executioner Claw like Baral, so lower ranked. Mind you, it took the entire force of L.Corps pretty much BEST AGENTS to take them on. Not sure what you mean by untrained as I'm pretty sure that a lot of the best E.G.O. Gear had stat requirements.
Gebura had Mimicry ever since it was given to her by Carmen after they managed to extract it from Nothing There. Gebura did take down two Claws and every Abnormality but actually lost to Garion. She only won because Garion got cocky when Gebura asked for a honourable death and surprise attacked her when she got close.
@@anri8986 Yeah, but what I meant was that since she was wielding mimicry then Nothing There had to already exist
@@anri8986 Sorry, as a reply to your edit: Roland being as strong as a colour fixer is assumed owing to the fact that he can fight Blue Reverberation one on one. He also said in the story quite early on that he didn't actually have any augments if I remember correctly. He is weakened owing to the fact that he was just in a fight, but that was limited only to his health: His attacks were the same strength as always, and they weren't strong enough to deflect most attacks. Even if Roland was at the strongest we see him as the Black Silence, he wouldn't have been able to win one on one against Baral.
The Claw being a conjured one, as it was an ordeal, actually means it was probably stronger than Baral, being an abnormality that's unaffected by Qliptoth deterrence. Agents being untrained is actually just what it says on the tin: They literally have no combat training, according to the manual.
Gebura did lose, killing Garion only because she never shuts up, which if Zena is anything to go by might be a trait most arbiters have, so it'd probably work twice :P
@@TehCoopaTroopa Considering how the Red Mist and Arbiter are weaker during their boss fights in Lobotomy, it doesn't make any real sense to say that the Claw would somehow be stronger. Not to mention, it's a lower grade Claw to begin with.
And sure, the Agents are untrained. I don't think you can really say they have no combat experience by the time their stats are leveled up to 5 or so and they're wielding EGOs. They're pretty much battle hardened veterans that had to survive being thrown into the deep end at that point.
@@generic120 Text in-game describes all of the ordeals as abnormalities that cannot be controlled, that only appear when the qliphoth deterrence fails. Following that logic, and by the fact that the qliphoth deterrence failing coincides with their appearance, it would make sense to assume that the fixers and the claw from the ordeals of white aren't actually humans sent by the head, but instead an abnormality like the rest of the ordeals. If this is true, and they are actually abnormalities without qliphoth deterrence, they would almost certainly be stronger than their original counterpart.
The agents being battle hardened stats wise is true except for one exception: they never actually get stronger. While their health, sanity, and speed increase, their actual damage does not: a level 5 agent with the default weapon would deal the same amount of damage as a brand new agent, who has never had any form of combat experience. On top of that, actual combat in LC doesn't offer any growth to any stats, so while they're experienced at interacting with abnormalities and grow to prove it, their experience doesn't go any further than that. Both LC and LoR point out as well that when using EGO the wielder isn't consciously acting, its the EGO controlling them. In reality instead of giving them EGO to fight with, we've given the EGO people to puppet.