18:10 "Are they really alive? Is it really them or is it just copies of their memories?" -Hearthian who is currently on the 167th iteration of getting their memories copied and sent back in time
Man I did the same. Coincidentally I watched the fourth season of True Detective and had that inner monologue going "What are the right questions here?"
I have never seen someone independently solve all three of the forbidden archives via the non-stealth workarounds on their blind playthrough. Impressed!
Doing Shrouded Woodlands first was a game changer for me I think because it fully convinced me that the sneak areas weren’t really sneak areas but puzzles to be solved 😆
@@BeccaBytesmy experience was the opposite which is so cool. The woodlands was the very last one and I was so stumped as to how to get to the fire without getting caught. I was 100% convinced that stealth was the only way
I just watched a video essay on Echoes of the Eye that was all about how the developers would never have intended to force the player to endure the stealth sections, and even in that essay, the creator could only argue for 2 of the 3 sections being do-able without any meaningful stealth. I cannot believe you managed to skip the stealth in all 3 sections on your first playthrough--on your first try--because of your faith in the spirit of the game. It's honestly inspiring. God I love this game.
The way you solved this puzzle was amazing! Your understanding of this game really paid off. Also showing us your thought process is highly appreciated.
Fun fact about the Artifact prototypes: If you ride on top of one of the elevators down into the Forbidden Archives, you can jump off onto an upper floor and find an un-redacted version of the lab testing slide reel.
Considering how scared the Owls were of the Eye when they discovered its purpose, it doesn't stop their approach to science! "Our VR soul-link device didn't work. We added more bits, the next one killed Owl-Bob and blew a hole in the ship! Let's try again with more bits!"
How?!?! HOW?!?! Your solution to the Starlit cove was hilarious since you didn't want to do the sneaking, tho it was a nightmare for you to do the loop each time But this time I knew, I KNEW, you would have to do the sneaking around the house. He he he, you're gonna get scared! Oh, you're making a document to gather ideas? Not gonna help! There's no way out from having to sneak ab- Wait What are you doing No... No way... That's a solution?!?! But the sneaking... The getting scared?!?!?! Damn... Okay you totally deserve this...
I think it's wild that you essentially finished the sneaking section, getting to within a few feet of the bridge activation (and already knowing you could get caught immediately thereafter) and THEN went back to figure out how to skip the sneaking.
That was really cool, and honestly you had more faith in the devs than I did. I remember being so frustrated that the DLC for this game was so stealth heavy when that really wasn't a major part of the base game, but you were 100% right that they wouldn't do that and that there actually was a smarter solution. Serious props for that!
some people discover that final glitch seen at the end of this episode by accident on the first time going into the digital world. while others may only learn about this technique now.
"is it murder? Sure. But it'd make all this so much easier" - Darth Becca Also, excellent editing for the google doc part, The River track is perfect for that =)
29:13 - Wow don't think i've ever seen anyone try an old prototype in the fire and have it explode on them. Not something I ever thought of trying. Loving this playthrough.
Saw a Reddit post by a new player where the prototype was the first artefact they found (somehow) and they thought they were using it wrong. Everyone in the comments was clowning on them because it was the funniest thing they'd heard.
Major prop to you for figuring out how to bypass the stealth sections on both the 2nd and 3rd sections. I totally didn't think that's possible, yet you mentioned about developers leaving such methods possible being absolutely correct.
I can’t believe it’s one of the last episodes either! I’m gonna both want want to celebrate when the last one posts (because I’m proud of myself!) but also might tear up a bit being done with the journey. :’( (ignoring the supercut and my video essay on Outer Wilds)
4:00 This is such a classic, I have seen so many people fall for it. Some of the holes and rotting may seem random, but I imagine this one is very carefully placed.
omg your bit about the trust in the developers was so true! In my playthrough after trying to sneak for 2-3 tries i also immediately thought theres no way a game with such a phenomenal usage of investigative creative thinking in the base game would suddenly require intense mechanical skill in its DLC, the devs wouldnt do that to us!
That was so immensely satisfying. Part way through the video I started thinking “maybe if you lower the elevator you can skip the bridge” and then when you pulled open the Google Doc I realised you 100% were going to come to the same conclusion
This is the coolest way I've seen someone solve this - incredible to know there is a relatively spook free method to solving all of these library room puzzles.
If anyone want to try the normal route and is having issues with the strangers, try focusing on them from afar instead of concealing near. Despite their size, they walk incredibly slowly and never run, unless you're too close! The darkness is the biggest issue, only conceal if you are dead certain where you're going next :)
Andrew Cunningham recently made a great short video essay where he talked about the sneaking and had a very similar thinking ! This made me think of it, i recommend checking it out
I've seen the alternate way of doing the puzzle, to avoid the main sneaky section, only twice before. And only one of them felt legit. If you learn this secret first, you can scout out this area for additional secret routes, as well as making the other two sneaky sections much easier. If you learn the secret of the "band house" first, using another entrance (it's the only way, no alternates), applying that technique here is easier to spot. Since you have the most time here before forced out, many people end up figuring out this one first, but the hard way. And you had the main idea; trick them. And once you learn how you can trick them, also the tower gets much more easier. You just never saw there was two routes into the wakeup bell totem thing.
Part 6, yessss! Been loving your playthrough and while I’m sad it’s coming to an end soon, I’m also excited to see what games you’ll tackle next! EDIT: the way you solved this section was genius! I did it the same way because I also wanted nothing to do with sneaking in the dark. Congratulations!
I am so impressed with how you solved this as a puzzle!! Truly, testing hypotheses because you want to avoid the discomfort of sneaking around is such a smart move
that's insane that you got the "you'll never take me alive" achievement naturally. I was a coward and looked up a walkthrough to avoid the stealth portions of the game and then looked up a walkthrough on how to get to that specific porch to proc the achievement.
42:00 - Alex Beachum said that the key was to shine the light in their eyes, and I guess you could back up into a circle, getting the one guy on the wrong side of the room before booking it, but it always seemed like the wrong play to me, too. I ended up luring him off, but I saw @Gealtthespacepirate had a different, perhaps inadvisable, solution.
Hey, it looks like the description of this video is exactly the same as the last one (Absolutely loving the playthrough btw, finally got around to watching it since I saw you posted the finale)
I had no idea you could solve it that way! The funniest thing about everyones (myself included) difficulty with the "stealth" sectors, is that once you get over your fear and simply bait them, it's trivial. You can keep your light on and looking at them like 95% of the time, walking them around a loop.
I was about to type something about the DLC's theme being about facing your fears even if the unknown scares you, so at some point you have to stealth....and then you found the workaround to completely avoid all the stealth sections lol. Brillz.
Oh how I wish I figured that last one out myself... I hated that stealth section SO much that I ended up spoiling myself the glitch. The no-stealth solution is not really well known even now. Mad respect!
That was amazing. Intellectually, I know that solution for Endless Canyon, since I've read a ton of threads on Reddit, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually do it. And I've watched a lot of playthroughs. I love your confidence that there would be a fun solution, and I'm glad you didn't give up.
Considering you were literally just steps away from completing this using the sneak method (just had to light that bridge on the other side of the bookshelf you kept getting to then get caught for a quick reset to start), I'm surprised you halted attempted that to find a different method. However discovering this alternate method is undoubtedly more satisfying. Impressive!
Your gameplay is so unique. It really shows how well you understand the story and layout of the game. Can’t wait to see your reaction on the last episode!!😆
I'm shocked that there is more than 1 way to get to the last secret archive. You are very good at finding alternative ways to solve problems in games!)
I think "sneaking" is the intended solution (more specifically using your lantern focus to lure the guards away), Andrew Cunningham has a great video dissecting the stealth in the dlc. To me the only one that feels unintended is starlight cove as you only get like two minutes as you've already found out.
I watched his video (it was linked a bunch after the last episode hahaha), and while I love his thoughts on it, my takeaway wasn’t that sneaking was the only intended method… it’s that sneaking AND coming up with other solutions like I did are both intentional. Somebody really aptly put it like solving problems the Feldspar way vs the Riebeck way: both are valid, which is why both work in the game. And it’s a theme we see in many areas of the base game as well, that there’s usually multiple ways to approach a problem. ::) I think the Starlit Cove one, while punishing, was still equally as intended as sneaking. That area overall is just supposed to be the hardest area either way you go. Otherwise why have the owlks die there with enough time to reach the archives? And if you move up farther where I did vs the area Andrew tried waiting out, and don’t panic, you can read 2 slide reels pretty easily. Which gives you a 2/3s chance of getting the one that tells you the death trick. It’s definitely the least elegant solution of the bunch, but given the other two have such blatant methods of bypassing the sneak section, I can’t imagine they unintentionally left this way in when they had to make choices such as literally having the tower falling leading to the owlks death, the distance to reach the archives, how far the slide reels were from the projector, etc.
@@BeccaBytes Totally agree that both paths are completely valid, all's fair in love and time loops after all haha. Looking forward to the conclusion and seeing what you tackle next.
I've seen quite a few playthroughs and yet I didn't know there was a _clever_ solution for this hidden library access. Excuse me for a second, I 've gotta pick up my jaw from the floor.
And then there's the third way: if you already know the glitch secret of the area, and you set down your lantern outside, you can see another invisible bridge which will take you directly from the starting side of the cliffs over to the area with the elevator; allowing you to completely bypass the sneaking whilst also not requiring a bunch of pre-setup and coming into the simulation from another location.
@@sykes1024 Yeah, there's a non-zero chance to discover the lantern rendering sphere by accident, or even intentionally if you just want to find out what happens if you leave it behind.
Finding the other skill would have helped greatly in the vaults section. I accidentally found all of them, I think, but at the Wrong Times, so I was just overall very confused. I stealthed my way through everything, but had I used the “recon” skill, or remembered “this game is A TIME LOOP”, I probably would have found better pseudo-stealth methods.
Lets goooo!!!!!!! Love your playthrough, Becca. Thank you for sharing :) Been trying to get my friends to play this game and not one of them has made it past the 2nd loop :')
MEEE TOO I WAS SO STUCK. It was obvious in hindsight but something about the layout broke my brain a bit, maybe it’s because I had spent a lot of energy on attempting to sneak initially 😆
Yeah, I knew I could probably get the sneak section with a few more tries but tbh it wasn’t feeling as fun or satisfying as I knew figuring out a non-sneak route would be! And I was right, the solving the puzzle high was perfect 😊
Well done! This section is actually the first I did, and I cheesed it just like you because I was scared shitless every. single. time I got caught! I’m glad you did it that way; many people say you can cheese the section by using the invisible bridges (and you can), but *how* is one supposed to know where the invisible bridges are without knowing the lantern trick? This way of doing it is much more intuitive and requires no solution/backseating!
@@Steller_Drifter the third option (the extra secret bridge) can only normally be found _after_ reaching that same Forbidden Archive, though. Becca's way is the only non-sneaking way to reach it that doesn't require either outside knowledge or accidentally discovering Matrix mode beforehand.
@@gabedamien tbh she even mentioned extra invisible bridges in her ramblings. I was really afraid that this untapped genius would deduce that there indeed is another secret bridge.
If you don't mind sugesstions there is a game I think you'll like. Zero Escape: The Nonary Games is a collection of mostly visual novel death games that do a lot with multiple timelines and big questions. It's made by the same people who did Danganronpa. I think the last game in the series (Zero Time Dilemma) is worth it even if you don't play any of the others. It really blew my mind when I played it.
I am so psyched up you figured out the alternate route here. I kept ramming my head against the sneak section till i got through and was just disappointed. Only found out there was an alternate way recently, after id finished the game. On the other hand, i didnt have any trouble in rhe starkit cove cause fir most if my playthrough i thought you *had* to die to go into it. I just fiund it by accident, only used napping later.
Correct me if I'm wrong but in the first simulation section -- the river lowlands or whatever, where the owlks are doing an outdoor pilgrimage between buildings in the dark -- that *cannot* be done purely with stealth, right? You have to arrange to get there after those owlks died to reach the fireplace. Which is the way Becca did it. Well maybe speedrunner types can YOLO across that crowded room into the fireplace but it doesn't feel intentional
This is correct, the first zone requires circumventing the Owlks. The second zone (which Becca had to do in multiple rounds) almost, but not quite (as Becca showed), requires sneaking. And this third zone is kind of in the middle; it has a clean but non-obvious workaround that leaves you enough time to watch all the reels, but most people still solve it the "sneaking" way.
Congrats on avoiding sneaking! There is however an even quicker way to solve this which doesn't need the elevator. I suggest trying your new found skill around this area.
What is your background / training in? I feel like it’s a science, but I have no evidence, other than a proclivity toward choosing the exact decisions I would have made, had I not done a vibey playthrough and actually sat and thought more. And I teach math.
Honestly, it sucks a little that you discovered the unrendered vision bug last. Knowing about it makes a lot of the difficult parts of the DLC way easier, as you can use it to get a good layout of the enemies in the dark. I'm very excited for the next episode.
I’m personally totally fine with it because I think I enjoyed the DLC way more due to figuring out ways to not sneak as a result! I thought I was just solving puzzles to not have to stumble around in the dark which was fun. And how the sneak sections were laid out weren’t my cup of tea personally (if I had to actually sneak through them) in a way I don’t think utilizing that bug would have resolved. :)
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18:10 "Are they really alive? Is it really them or is it just copies of their memories?" -Hearthian who is currently on the 167th iteration of getting their memories copied and sent back in time
well hey, technically we are always the first iteration. only the thoughts get sent back.
"Wouldn't both actions be effectively the same?" - Cassava
@@ReverendTed not for the one who sends the memo ;)
@@Cashman9111 but do they even exist when we change time?
@@feilkate5892 until they die - of course
You know it's a good outer wilds let's play when there's a section of the video that's just writing a google doc to think through your thoughts. lol
Man I did the same. Coincidentally I watched the fourth season of True Detective and had that inner monologue going "What are the right questions here?"
Players like you is why MS Excel got built into EVE Online.
(Not saying that this is a bad thing.)
@@kolelokaram8541 This is precisely why I've been forbidden from playing EVE Online. Pretty sure I'd become a junky if I tried.
I have never seen someone independently solve all three of the forbidden archives via the non-stealth workarounds on their blind playthrough. Impressed!
Doing Shrouded Woodlands first was a game changer for me I think because it fully convinced me that the sneak areas weren’t really sneak areas but puzzles to be solved 😆
@@BeccaBytesmy experience was the opposite which is so cool. The woodlands was the very last one and I was so stumped as to how to get to the fire without getting caught. I was 100% convinced that stealth was the only way
@@flyingnoodle3267 Goes to show that there are multiple ways to solve these. Man I love Outer Wilds
I just watched a video essay on Echoes of the Eye that was all about how the developers would never have intended to force the player to endure the stealth sections, and even in that essay, the creator could only argue for 2 of the 3 sections being do-able without any meaningful stealth.
I cannot believe you managed to skip the stealth in all 3 sections on your first playthrough--on your first try--because of your faith in the spirit of the game. It's honestly inspiring.
God I love this game.
The way you solved this puzzle was amazing! Your understanding of this game really paid off. Also showing us your thought process is highly appreciated.
Fun fact about the Artifact prototypes:
If you ride on top of one of the elevators down into the Forbidden Archives, you can jump off onto an upper floor and find an un-redacted version of the lab testing slide reel.
Woah really?? I never knew that!
Considering how scared the Owls were of the Eye when they discovered its purpose, it doesn't stop their approach to science! "Our VR soul-link device didn't work. We added more bits, the next one killed Owl-Bob and blew a hole in the ship! Let's try again with more bits!"
How?!?!
HOW?!?!
Your solution to the Starlit cove was hilarious since you didn't want to do the sneaking, tho it was a nightmare for you to do the loop each time
But this time I knew, I KNEW, you would have to do the sneaking around the house. He he he, you're gonna get scared! Oh, you're making a document to gather ideas? Not gonna help! There's no way out from having to sneak ab-
Wait
What are you doing
No... No way... That's a solution?!?! But the sneaking... The getting scared?!?!?!
Damn... Okay you totally deserve this...
My reaction exactly. I was so confidently wrong that she couldn't no-sneak it!
I think it's wild that you essentially finished the sneaking section, getting to within a few feet of the bridge activation (and already knowing you could get caught immediately thereafter) and THEN went back to figure out how to skip the sneaking.
That was really cool, and honestly you had more faith in the devs than I did. I remember being so frustrated that the DLC for this game was so stealth heavy when that really wasn't a major part of the base game, but you were 100% right that they wouldn't do that and that there actually was a smarter solution. Serious props for that!
Yesss you worked out the clever solution to that area! most people don't figure that option out (myself included)
Solution to that area opens up a even more easier solution to that area. When you know how to look and where to look
some people discover that final glitch seen at the end of this episode by accident on the first time going into the digital world. while others may only learn about this technique now.
Finally my favorite part and discovery I made when I played the DLC, Simulation distance, So incredibly clever
"is it murder? Sure. But it'd make all this so much easier" - Darth Becca
Also, excellent editing for the google doc part, The River track is perfect for that =)
You're too good at this, the little teaser intro, and your upload timing is impeccable. Legendary.
29:13 - Wow don't think i've ever seen anyone try an old prototype in the fire and have it explode on them. Not something I ever thought of trying. Loving this playthrough.
Saw a Reddit post by a new player where the prototype was the first artefact they found (somehow) and they thought they were using it wrong. Everyone in the comments was clowning on them because it was the funniest thing they'd heard.
There's even an achievement for it!
Congrats on being only the second person I have ever seen figure out how to solve Endless Canyon this way. (The first being Dan Floyd on PlayFrame.)
Becca was COOKING in this one, goddamn! I solved endless canyon in the exact same way, and it felt so rewarding
Major prop to you for figuring out how to bypass the stealth sections on both the 2nd and 3rd sections. I totally didn't think that's possible, yet you mentioned about developers leaving such methods possible being absolutely correct.
29:26 Holy forking shirtballs I literally never knew this was a thing. I am in awe of your dedication to experimental science.
Right on time for breakfast. Can't believe it's also one of the last episodes, it really has been a wild ride so far ::)
I can’t believe it’s one of the last episodes either! I’m gonna both want want to celebrate when the last one posts (because I’m proud of myself!) but also might tear up a bit being done with the journey. :’( (ignoring the supercut and my video essay on Outer Wilds)
@@BeccaBytes video essay? now that i'm excited for
4:00 This is such a classic, I have seen so many people fall for it. Some of the holes and rotting may seem random, but I imagine this one is very carefully placed.
omg your bit about the trust in the developers was so true! In my playthrough after trying to sneak for 2-3 tries i also immediately thought theres no way a game with such a phenomenal usage of investigative creative thinking in the base game would suddenly require intense mechanical skill in its DLC, the devs wouldnt do that to us!
No, the sneaking sections are intended, there are multiple interviews with the lead developer where he says as much
14:21 i was laughing last episode at never noticing the other hole in the floor. glad it was found sooner rather than later
That was so immensely satisfying. Part way through the video I started thinking “maybe if you lower the elevator you can skip the bridge” and then when you pulled open the Google Doc I realised you 100% were going to come to the same conclusion
This is the coolest way I've seen someone solve this - incredible to know there is a relatively spook free method to solving all of these library room puzzles.
12:00 this slide reel almost broke me when I found it, and the complete version totally broke me.
I loved the problem solving this episode to get around the sneak sections! Great work!
If anyone want to try the normal route and is having issues with the strangers, try focusing on them from afar instead of concealing near. Despite their size, they walk incredibly slowly and never run, unless you're too close!
The darkness is the biggest issue, only conceal if you are dead certain where you're going next :)
"It can't involve them dying because unfortunately...our character's not a murderer." 😂
This was amazing. It's the first playthrough I’ve watched that successfully avoided all sneaking through lateral thinking. Great job, lol
Like everyone else, truly impressed by the way you solved that last section - that and your dedication and patience
fun fact in that reel where they show the "signal jammer" you can see the ice planet not being shattered by the seed aka bramble
Andrew Cunningham recently made a great short video essay where he talked about the sneaking and had a very similar thinking ! This made me think of it, i recommend checking it out
It cracks me up how anytime you have an object to carry, you're like, "This is my child."
29:08 - I've watched about a dozen full playthroughs now, and this is the first time I'm seeing that easter egg 😂
I've seen the alternate way of doing the puzzle, to avoid the main sneaky section, only twice before. And only one of them felt legit.
If you learn this secret first, you can scout out this area for additional secret routes, as well as making the other two sneaky sections much easier.
If you learn the secret of the "band house" first, using another entrance (it's the only way, no alternates), applying that technique here is easier to spot.
Since you have the most time here before forced out, many people end up figuring out this one first, but the hard way. And you had the main idea; trick them.
And once you learn how you can trick them, also the tower gets much more easier. You just never saw there was two routes into the wakeup bell totem thing.
Part 6, yessss! Been loving your playthrough and while I’m sad it’s coming to an end soon, I’m also excited to see what games you’ll tackle next!
EDIT: the way you solved this section was genius! I did it the same way because I also wanted nothing to do with sneaking in the dark. Congratulations!
Great work, Becca! I’ve been looking forward to this. Can’t wait for the last episode! I’m sorry for your loss and I hope you feel better soon.
I am so impressed with how you solved this as a puzzle!! Truly, testing hypotheses because you want to avoid the discomfort of sneaking around is such a smart move
that's insane that you got the "you'll never take me alive" achievement naturally. I was a coward and looked up a walkthrough to avoid the stealth portions of the game and then looked up a walkthrough on how to get to that specific porch to proc the achievement.
42:00 - Alex Beachum said that the key was to shine the light in their eyes, and I guess you could back up into a circle, getting the one guy on the wrong side of the room before booking it, but it always seemed like the wrong play to me, too.
I ended up luring him off, but I saw @Gealtthespacepirate had a different, perhaps inadvisable, solution.
Such a great episode! You were so smart. I really liked your approach and i dont consider it cheesing at all. Note taking is worth it
oh hell yeah new becca vid!
i loved your notes!! that’s exactly what i did too! sneaking sucks and it’s not mandatory! woo!
So impressed that you intuited the non-sneak method and figured it out. I definitely just went sneaking and didn't even think about it.
Hey, it looks like the description of this video is exactly the same as the last one (Absolutely loving the playthrough btw, finally got around to watching it since I saw you posted the finale)
Oh shoot, thank you for the heads up! Fixed it 🙌🏻
I had no idea you could solve it that way! The funniest thing about everyones (myself included) difficulty with the "stealth" sectors, is that once you get over your fear and simply bait them, it's trivial. You can keep your light on and looking at them like 95% of the time, walking them around a loop.
I love the music touch during the google docs segment.
28:28 I was actually yelling at my screen lol. Normally you're just about the best Outer Wilds player I've ever watched (maybe tied?) but man... LMAO
Truly amazing thought process, i would've never even considered that there was another way to solve that area
I was about to type something about the DLC's theme being about facing your fears even if the unknown scares you, so at some point you have to stealth....and then you found the workaround to completely avoid all the stealth sections lol. Brillz.
Oh how I wish I figured that last one out myself... I hated that stealth section SO much that I ended up spoiling myself the glitch. The no-stealth solution is not really well known even now. Mad respect!
I agree that Hidden Gorge is the most interesting spot on the Stranger (physically lol), that was def my fave area to explore ::)
That was amazing. Intellectually, I know that solution for Endless Canyon, since I've read a ton of threads on Reddit, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually do it. And I've watched a lot of playthroughs. I love your confidence that there would be a fun solution, and I'm glad you didn't give up.
28:30 My parents finding out I have ADHD
Outstanding puzzle solving!! I don't remember having seen any let's player do it that way. Until today!
36:50 this was hilarious. great episode!
I'm in shock... how she solved it like that??? Omg. It's amazing
She's overthinking 😅
Considering you were literally just steps away from completing this using the sneak method (just had to light that bridge on the other side of the bookshelf you kept getting to then get caught for a quick reset to start), I'm surprised you halted attempted that to find a different method. However discovering this alternate method is undoubtedly more satisfying. Impressive!
Your gameplay is so unique. It really shows how well you understand the story and layout of the game. Can’t wait to see your reaction on the last episode!!😆
I'm shocked that there is more than 1 way to get to the last secret archive. You are very good at finding alternative ways to solve problems in games!)
I think "sneaking" is the intended solution (more specifically using your lantern focus to lure the guards away), Andrew Cunningham has a great video dissecting the stealth in the dlc. To me the only one that feels unintended is starlight cove as you only get like two minutes as you've already found out.
I watched his video (it was linked a bunch after the last episode hahaha), and while I love his thoughts on it, my takeaway wasn’t that sneaking was the only intended method… it’s that sneaking AND coming up with other solutions like I did are both intentional. Somebody really aptly put it like solving problems the Feldspar way vs the Riebeck way: both are valid, which is why both work in the game. And it’s a theme we see in many areas of the base game as well, that there’s usually multiple ways to approach a problem. ::)
I think the Starlit Cove one, while punishing, was still equally as intended as sneaking. That area overall is just supposed to be the hardest area either way you go. Otherwise why have the owlks die there with enough time to reach the archives? And if you move up farther where I did vs the area Andrew tried waiting out, and don’t panic, you can read 2 slide reels pretty easily. Which gives you a 2/3s chance of getting the one that tells you the death trick. It’s definitely the least elegant solution of the bunch, but given the other two have such blatant methods of bypassing the sneak section, I can’t imagine they unintentionally left this way in when they had to make choices such as literally having the tower falling leading to the owlks death, the distance to reach the archives, how far the slide reels were from the projector, etc.
@@BeccaBytes Totally agree that both paths are completely valid, all's fair in love and time loops after all haha. Looking forward to the conclusion and seeing what you tackle next.
I've seen quite a few playthroughs and yet I didn't know there was a _clever_ solution for this hidden library access. Excuse me for a second, I 've gotta pick up my jaw from the floor.
And then there's the third way: if you already know the glitch secret of the area, and you set down your lantern outside, you can see another invisible bridge which will take you directly from the starting side of the cliffs over to the area with the elevator; allowing you to completely bypass the sneaking whilst also not requiring a bunch of pre-setup and coming into the simulation from another location.
@@sykes1024 Yeah, there's a non-zero chance to discover the lantern rendering sphere by accident, or even intentionally if you just want to find out what happens if you leave it behind.
Finding the other skill would have helped greatly in the vaults section. I accidentally found all of them, I think, but at the Wrong Times, so I was just overall very confused. I stealthed my way through everything, but had I used the “recon” skill, or remembered “this game is A TIME LOOP”, I probably would have found better pseudo-stealth methods.
I really have to do what you did when you got stuck, making a document with all the information I have and try to reason out the solution.
Mannnn we’re almost at the end. The ending of the DLC made me cry
laughed out loud after your master plan was coming together and then you randomly trip, fall and die
So close to the end ! You were so brave there !
I love this series!! I can’t wait to see the final episode!!
As someone who did the Endless Canyon first, this thumbnail was also my reaction
Lets goooo!!!!!!! Love your playthrough, Becca. Thank you for sharing :) Been trying to get my friends to play this game and not one of them has made it past the 2nd loop :')
I'm so happy you figured that out!
MEEE TOO I WAS SO STUCK. It was obvious in hindsight but something about the layout broke my brain a bit, maybe it’s because I had spent a lot of energy on attempting to sneak initially 😆
@@BeccaBytes You came so close to success with the sneaking!
Yeah, I knew I could probably get the sneak section with a few more tries but tbh it wasn’t feeling as fun or satisfying as I knew figuring out a non-sneak route would be! And I was right, the solving the puzzle high was perfect 😊
Sometimes you just need to take a leap of faith…
… or two.
22:14 great now you know how to get to the simulation world 🤣
Well done! This section is actually the first I did, and I cheesed it just like you because I was scared shitless every. single. time I got caught! I’m glad you did it that way; many people say you can cheese the section by using the invisible bridges (and you can), but *how* is one supposed to know where the invisible bridges are without knowing the lantern trick? This way of doing it is much more intuitive and requires no solution/backseating!
I'm actually impressed you were able to find a non-sneak way to get the third archive, I thought there was no other way than to sneak in the dark.
There is a third option. A third bridge.
@@Steller_Drifter the third option (the extra secret bridge) can only normally be found _after_ reaching that same Forbidden Archive, though. Becca's way is the only non-sneaking way to reach it that doesn't require either outside knowledge or accidentally discovering Matrix mode beforehand.
@@gabedamien tbh she even mentioned extra invisible bridges in her ramblings. I was really afraid that this untapped genius would deduce that there indeed is another secret bridge.
If you don't mind sugesstions there is a game I think you'll like. Zero Escape: The Nonary Games is a collection of mostly visual novel death games that do a lot with multiple timelines and big questions. It's made by the same people who did Danganronpa. I think the last game in the series (Zero Time Dilemma) is worth it even if you don't play any of the others. It really blew my mind when I played it.
I am so psyched up you figured out the alternate route here. I kept ramming my head against the sneak section till i got through and was just disappointed. Only found out there was an alternate way recently, after id finished the game.
On the other hand, i didnt have any trouble in rhe starkit cove cause fir most if my playthrough i thought you *had* to die to go into it. I just fiund it by accident, only used napping later.
LETS GOOOOOO!!!! Another BeccaBytes video, another GREAT DAY!
I'm ready for the finale!!
bruh i can not wait a week for the next video im gonna implode
Good news, it’s coming out on Friday!! I just had a couple of one video weeks due to a family circumstance and then getting the flu 🫶
I’m so ready
We are so back!
Correct me if I'm wrong but in the first simulation section -- the river lowlands or whatever, where the owlks are doing an outdoor pilgrimage between buildings in the dark -- that *cannot* be done purely with stealth, right? You have to arrange to get there after those owlks died to reach the fireplace. Which is the way Becca did it.
Well maybe speedrunner types can YOLO across that crowded room into the fireplace but it doesn't feel intentional
This is correct, the first zone requires circumventing the Owlks. The second zone (which Becca had to do in multiple rounds) almost, but not quite (as Becca showed), requires sneaking. And this third zone is kind of in the middle; it has a clean but non-obvious workaround that leaves you enough time to watch all the reels, but most people still solve it the "sneaking" way.
Did you get an achievement for blowing yourself up with the prototype lantern? I had no idea you could do that.
Yup! The achievement is called “Early Adopter” 😆
The "Did they kill their kids?" at 1:01:07 took me out. It's a good question but it also hit me like a brick.
Congrats on avoiding sneaking! There is however an even quicker way to solve this which doesn't need the elevator. I suggest trying your new found skill around this area.
I need to see you play Subnautica.
What is your background / training in?
I feel like it’s a science, but I have no evidence, other than a proclivity toward choosing the exact decisions I would have made, had I not done a vibey playthrough and actually sat and thought more.
And I teach math.
I'm sad that this is coming close to an end. Any plans on what game is next?
Edit: Maybe Subnautica?
I'd loooove to see her amazing mystery-solving tackle Return of the Obra Dinn!
@@willmiles7978 ooh, that's a good one too.
Is it murder? Sure.
This game is so poggers
Honestly, it sucks a little that you discovered the unrendered vision bug last. Knowing about it makes a lot of the difficult parts of the DLC way easier, as you can use it to get a good layout of the enemies in the dark. I'm very excited for the next episode.
I’m personally totally fine with it because I think I enjoyed the DLC way more due to figuring out ways to not sneak as a result! I thought I was just solving puzzles to not have to stumble around in the dark which was fun. And how the sneak sections were laid out weren’t my cup of tea personally (if I had to actually sneak through them) in a way I don’t think utilizing that bug would have resolved. :)