Project Valhalla is Here! - Windows 11 Emulation & Guide / GameCube, Wii, PSP, PS1, RetroArch
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Project Valhalla is a Windows 11 firmware package made for the Odin and the Odin Pro handhelds. This firmware allows you to install Windows 11 on a Snapdragon 845 processor. In this video, we look at emulation performance on Windows 11 with the Odin Pro, as well as go over the installation process.
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I am currently testing an ARM build of PCSX2 for Windows 11. I'll put some clips up on Taki II when I get a chance.
Legendary
hey taki, you can sideload android apks on windows 11, since windows 11 has android app support
or if you can find the emulator in the amazon app store which windows 11 uses for apps
Has that anything to do with project renegade ?
Shouldn't the best performance be given by a ARM Linux distro? Like those emulation OSes that run on Raspberry PIs. Windows ARM seems slow and chunky.
@@vhateg its the support of games id say
I would still like to see a video on the Odin lite both internals and power, I'm not expecting to see an extensive video but just a brief one, I think a lot of people would be interested in such video.
Very nice 👍 Thanks and good job Taki 👋
Now we're talking nice to see it improves
Nice, I love the design
I would like to provide a video about the problems that the team is experiencing in support of modern processors
We are really close to a windows handheld, which plays ps2 games in 2~3x resolution in a psvita formfactor. I am thrilled
I hope that one day we can play the entire Ratchet and Clank Trilogy emulated without it slowing down even on the best hardware. I totally get it because that game is literally using most of the ps2's power as a showcase of what it can do, a staple of the first Ratchet and Clank games on new systems.
@@lotion5238 honestly on the ps Vita it's actually not bad, I've beat the first one with only small issues but they aren't too noticabl. I'd recommend getting a handgrip and triggers for the back pad touch since all 3 games use it.
@@seriousstevegaming2090 how did you play the first RAC on psvita, I've never actually owned one.
@@lotion5238 they have the trilogy in the store for 20$
I think you can just run windows on a steam deck
Bro hope you doing well and God bless you always nice video but your voice sounded a little bit heavy wosh you good health always take care 😊👍
WOW , I cant wait to see that on the Odin 2 PRO😀
2 years later, still no development 😔😔
Just wondering if the arm64 Win11 runs Windows subsystem for android(WSA), if so what would be the performance like because WSA is said to be running natively on arm64 chips.
That would be native support for Android emulators on this devices, that would be great!
I believe TJ (the dev) said that he got it working but can't redistribute the modded binaries due to licensing or something so it's not in the release. Maybe in future he can release a guide for us to modify it ourselves.
yeas
Dual boot would be the best solution, I think
Awesome thank you! I was psyched to put windows on this but since I only got the base and there's no dual boot option, I think I'll keep my Odin on Android and just game stream any games which the Odin can't handle.
Do you know how to root the odin on Android? I know it's pretty simple using ADB but wondering if magisk can be installed or something.
Great vid!
Hoping for dual boot option later on. But if not I hope it's easy to set least put Android back on it in case I don't want windows on it anymore
i really like my win 2, but i kinda wish i'd waited on this instead, even if it is less powerful. the cooling mod fan on my win 2 gets so loud if i play any PC game past 2006
how does the app store work on windows 11 on odin, because I know you can install it
Performance looks bad though understandable due to the translation from arm to x86.
1. Does x64 emulations work?
2. How does it work on the odin base with only 4gb ram?
3. Any chance to dual boot?
4. does the controller appears as an xinput device to pc software?
5. Does the device uses direct power from charger (passthrough) when it is 100% charged? Or does it continue to drain the battery with the charger continuing to charge the battery? Any difference to this question if its android or windows?
I wish it was able to dual boot.
Did the L1/R1 button issues get fixed?
Crash Team Racing has a fan widescreen hack that can fix the UI elements appearing in the wrong place. Using a normal widescreen hack will misalign text and images.
I recently received my odin pro and am really wanting to install this to try out for myself but dont want to do so unless i can find a way to revert back to android if i dont like it is there any way to do so or find download for the odins version of android?
Looks awesome, but my non pro model probably would run into some slowdown. If they come out with a dual-boot option, I'll probably consider installing it for shits and giggles.
Man, I have such an irrational irk to buy this now, even though I absolutely don't need it as my phone is better for emulation and already set up perfectly with controllers and all, and for PC games my notebook runs circles around the Odin. It's just the curiosity to see Windows on ARM and have a decent performance. We've been waiting several decades for this.
Buy an old SD 845 device and follow renegade project
@@SaimSelim I have a S855 LG phone, would that work?
@@SaimSelim Honestly, not as good of a solution as the Odin has active cooling that helps it maintain max performance for longer. Not to mention the complete shell feels more satisfying than some of these addon controllers. Speaking as someone who has a Razer Kishi for my old SD845 phone. Sure, you can do just fine, but getting a dedicated device with newer support and quality buttons is completely different and worth it to a lot of people.
@@johnbuscher with that much money he can just buy the deck
My odin is now 1.0.1.7 why did ayn say it was supposed to be 1.0.1.2 and did they add xbox ps4 bluetooth support or just usb
Hello! Please tell, after the updates, did the dock start working with Windows?
Sorry to necro a thread but I was loading this video in prep for when my Pro comes next week. How will the installation process change with their in-house custom boot loader? Will I just boot to their alternate screen and install from the flash drive? I assume Valhalla still needs to be installed also. Hopefully you’ll do a video on this, the alt loading update drops on Weds, so you’ll be able to keep both Windows and Android and they have a Linus seed coming too.
what's the usb stick at 6:08 ? it looks nice and small for a dual connector
Now that you can dual boot the system Will you be making a video about how to install the windows on the dual boot because it's a little confusing.
How would these PC games run on an Odin Base?
How capable would this machine on windows be in regard to work related stuff. Could this replace my laptop and do some (light) dev work?
Way off topic but do you have any info on the N+ Digi Dock V2? Thanks.
welp, Odin is stuck on a black screen after simply putting into edl boot and windows is not recognizing any Qualcomm device or drivers. no optional drivers from updater either. tried downloading Qualcomm drivers manual and still nothing.
can't wait for the next odin revision tbh
i just want dual boot now. or to be able to boot windows from a sd card or something. can somebody say if either of this is possible and if yes when we get it?
Its has been done :)
Seeing you using this device with Win11 makes me so tempted to order one but then again, with an AyaNeo and soon Steam Deck in my collection there's no point.
Unless this Odin magically lasts a lot longer perhaps.
As someone with an Odin and still thinking about the Steam Deck, the main thing I wasn't expecting was the amazing battery life of the Odin. I have the base model and I usually only charge it every 3-4 days. That's with PSP and PS1 emulation going for 1-2 hours a day. I could easily get away with only charging it once a week, but I've always been paranoid with devices when they get down to about 30%.
@@RappleJackson Wow.
That is really unexpected 👀
How lightweight is it in your hands?
@@MegaManNeo Very! It's very much like the Switch Lite. Most of my playtime is spent playing in bed and it's super comfortable.
@@RappleJackson That doesn't sounds too bad.
Granted, I always put my arms on my legs or the table when playing with either the Switch or AyaNeo but especially the later one is nothing I would play while holding in the air.
@@RappleJackson That 6600mAh battery pulling it’s weight, haha. I’d totally get one if I didn’t know my habits of completely disregarding tech in a relatively short amount of time. I have a Steam Deck on reserve, I don’t really use my laptops, and I don’t really use my phone for games as-is. But still, this brings me back to my GP2X days, and I used to play that every day when I was younger.
How abou the regular android phone is there a way to install win11 emulation on in
hi taki first of all , thnx for all the great reviews and tutorials.
i guess you ot this question allot , if i order mij odin pro now how long do you think more less its gone take befor i get my consolle .
i pre orderd my steamdeck on sept 2021, for a long time it whas planed for q2. afther the 2 month delay it should be shiped afther q2 but yesterday i looked and it whas now at afther q3 , so thats a long way to wait.
becouse of my held probs im more and more in the hospital , so that wy im asking
keep up the great work , i realy like al youre content
ps sorry for my poor english , im from holland
cheers loed
Before Shenzhen went on a one week quarantine, I think they were 1-2 months away from being caught up to an order that happens today.
We will have to wait to see what happens at the end of this week.
@@TakiUdon thnx m8
well 2 or even 3 months waiting is better then afther q3
keep up the great work , cant wait to see more steam deck , odin or any other videos coming from youre chanel.
where can I find an tutorial for flashing back to android?
Also, Great work!
I’m torn on getting the Odin or the GPD Win3. I keep seeing your videos on the Odin and it’s amazing but I want higher emulation than ps2.
Is there a way to get the fan working while in windows?
My Odin is currently in the drawer not being used because L 1 and R1 buttons are still broken and the repair kit is stuck in china
because devices with the same processor running games on Windows ARM have worse performance?
Could you install this on an old android phone? As you said it's a Snapdragon 845 and works fine. Would this be the same for a phone with the same or high SD
This is amazing. Maybe 5 to 10 more years the handheld devices will dominate the home console and PC.
Qualcomm drivers are like Nvidia, technically they could port drivers to other devices... Yet, it would be difficult and probably ilegal... But I think a actively cooled Snapdragon 8G1 or even the 888 and the 888+ will be able to play a lot of PC games at low settings with not much issue (when drivers get better) sadly that is in the realm of when a company would be able to buy those chips devkit for a windows 11 arm project...
By that time, the PC and game consoles will probably become even more powerful.
@@aaronyamato2230 ¿Consoles?, Dunno... PC of course, but this device is a proof of concept of you can do on ARM devices.
Portable devices or handheld devices will dominate in the future i guess. Just think what happen to the camera video recorder, watch, even calendar they put in one device and thats our phone now maybe the next step is to add a triple a gaming since gaming on the phone is popular. Well that's only my opinion.
@@soragranda x86 emulation built in on Windows 11 for ARM is already impressive. Just by adding TSO (total store ordering) to these CPUs, like the M1 from Apple, would give them a massive performance boost. Microsoft and Qualcomm could release a Steam Deck killer if they want, which is exciting and frightening at the same time.
Is there a way to use a og xbox emulator on odin running windows?
so.. can we install windows on the odin lite?
The developer is a genius
Still waiting for my Odin to arrive. And I ordered back in January.
Where you life
@@wanzhelsing Singapore. i got a response that it'll be in the second batch which accdg to them will ship April-May. Crazy things are happening in the world rn so I'm not too angry about it.
Does anyone know if you can run Batocera on this machine? I really like this frontend.
I think there is/was an android version in the making?
Can ARM64 Win11 run anything unique (that Android can't) emulator-wise like RPCS3, Cemu, or yuzu/Ryujinx?
I don't understand the difference from the other Odin?
Great work! I wonder how long until a version of Linux will become available to be installed on Odin. I know someone has managed to do it, but I wonder when regular users can. 🤔
I've been waiting for this myself, you say someone already has? Is it an official project or someone just tinkering for themselves?
@@ratphynqer Just someone tinkering for themselves.
@@RGGeek 👍
would love to see a steamos port on it
I am wondering how it wil perform with snapdragon zen 1 chips
Where can I purchase one at link please?
Yuzu, CEMU, Xenia and RPCS3 are possible right?
😎👍
I intend to use android, but it's still interesting to see these videos. Is it possible to emulate Windows within android with any degree of performance?
You can emulate earlier versions of Windows, but it's not a good time.
There's a subscription app called shadow that runs a cloud gaming PC on windows 10 so you can run PC games and PC apps . I run it on my zfold in landscape mode and cast it through Samsung Dex to my samsung monitor and the app is available for smart tvs as well .
@@kdubspencer3390 With all of that you get over 100ms of input latency as well lmao!
@@Flyingboots1 actually no. try not 2 assume lol. Ppl are playing GTA 5 and other games on it with no issues . I play Xbox game pass on my phone and PS5 more so I'll probably cancel the service
@@kdubspencer3390 it's streaming, there's latency.
Taki why dont you have a steam dekc
Can you please show how to download android oc back on odin?
I tried to install, it fails the download in ofil, fix this.
Can it run Serato, Ableton or any other DAWs?
I wish there's more Steam games test. I hope Ayn Odin upgrades to SD888 or SD8G1
Cool
I'd suggest 'Show Switch Emulation too!', but the Nintendo ninjas would have this video down within the hour
They won't take action if it's not showcasing first party games.
so...this isnt cloud streaming at all for steam?its legit the official steam titles?
Taki. Your content is always very informative and thorough, and I've been a subscriber for years. But please, could you try varying your tone of voice? Every sentence sounds exactly the same, with a high-pitched monotone from the beginning until almost the end, at which point the pitch drops an octave. This is the pattern for every sentence regardless of the subject matter. It almost sounds like text to speech AI and it can make listening to the video hard work to the point where I often take a break after a video or two and watch something else. If you could vary the tone a little in order to sound less artificial, it would make a big difference. Thanks.
Does someone know wether the Odin is powerful enough to play Wii U games??
Hey Taki,
You said that you could re-flash you Odin with Android firmware if you wanted to go back. Where do you get the firmware from? I interested in trying Windows on my Odin Pro, but want to make sure I can go back afterwards.
Thor (one of the people on this GitHub repo) made a firmware backup for QFIL.
@@TakiUdon Awesome, thank you. Great video.
Can it run Sega model 2 & 3 emulators?
Can u emulate CEMU on this device?
can we please get more steam games running? i think black ops 1 or world at war are perfect to check out
Can you try this on Redmagic 7?
Will this work on odin 2
Where to buy this
I'm wondering if it's possible to get Minecraft to work in this
Does connection to external monitor (forexample HDMI out) work?
DP works, but not HDMI out currently
Any chance of dual boot for this yet?
I wanna play tekken 7 on this thing 😅 is it possible ? Will you show us please 🤗❤
Wonder if Steam OS will be able to run on this device whenever that gets released. Would be another great option imo.
It could, but note that SteamOS was originally built for TV Box/Console using an Intel processor (x86 architecture). The latest SteamOS version which runs on the Valve SteamDeck is using an AMD APU (also x86).
So it is possible (we have Windows 11 running on a QSD 845+), but I wouldn't hold my breath for an ARM port. If anything, you can boot the AYN Odin Pro into Windows 11, run the Steam Executible, and put it into Big Screen Mode with the hack to make it look like a VSD.
You know valve has an Arm version of Steam OS in the works. AMD has already acknowledged they’re willing to make Arm chips, it would definitely allow steam to completely rid itself of the bulk of windows, and the battery efficiency would be great for the Steam Deck. My guess is that more games need to natively support Arm
@@xpeterson
AMD actually has already made ARM chips in the past. But that division is long gone.
As for an ARM port of SteamOS, remember even when that comes out it won't work on the AYN Odin Pro until someone ports it over properly which takes some time. But I doubt ARM-SteamOS is actively being worked on now. Remember that Steam for ChromeOS which has been announced ages ago also only supports x86 Chromebooks. In short, do not wait for it you will be disappointed.
@@ekinteko Not sure what division that was, but AMD recently stated, with the whole apple moving away from intel, that they are ready to produce Arm chips if any customer has the demand.
Im sure it has been tried in the past. Steam OS was tried in the past with the Steam machines. I imagine it had a lot of similar issues, namely very few games would work. That doesn’t mean it wont work in the future and it certainly doesn’t mean valve doesn’t have a team working out the best possible version for an Arm Steam OS if it ever needed it. Heck, how long did it take before steam came out on the M1 chips?
@@xpeterson
When the first 64bit Server chips was released to license holders from ARM, it was AMD who was the first to develop and sell it. I don't know if anyone bought any of those old 32nm (?) Cortex-A57 server chips from AMD which was better than their ageing Bulldozer Architecture at the time. Anyways, that division was eventually terminated.
Steam doesn't have an ARM build for Apple M1. The sandbox runs in Rosetta2 translation through Apples API. There's not many games through Steam that ran on macOS, but the majority of them also run within this hybrid-translation layer. Steam did update their sandbox, so that any games which already had an ARM build, would be able to run out of their sandbox like a native Mac App.
Again, do not wait for ARM and Steam. It is more accurate to say it won't happen, since the majority of games on that platform were coded for x86. Even a relatively simple port from Windows to Linux is showing lots of issues. That a major port from x86 to ARM is going to be simply too much.
can it run CRT royale?
Double emulation is a hit or miss..
Interesting video, hopefully there's some adjustments that bring windows gaming in line with android.
That said, I'm happy to just see continued development and steps forward with these new emulation devices, the changes in the last 2 years alone have been staggering!
woah, we need a 8 gen 1 soc in a newer handheld
I hope i have this odin
Yall think we will ever get dual bootability? There are a few older games on steam I want to be able to play. Like the FF4 remake i think would be better to play the steam version than emulating DS for example.
Isn't it also on Android?
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 thanks for the info! Ill just play it on the android version
I’m not too well versed on this but does the ability to run windows 11 mean that the Odin can play rpg maker games like Pokémon insurgence?
I would have to check
Can you test xemu?
Any word on ota update
For those interested, that design is a 'valknut' or 'warrior's knot' in Norse tradition.
I am just looking for a device to run my indi steam library.
How does Fallout 3 or New Vegas run? That's honestly gonna be the selling point for me
Do you think fallout 3 and new Vegas would be playable on windows with the Odin pro?
I wasn't able to get New Vegas to run. If you have other games that you want to know about, there are a lot of people with this installed and you can send out a request in the 845-Windows channel in my Discord server.
Frannie got it running
You mentioned that this completely replaces the Android firmware... does this mean this device can't double boot?
Not with this package
@@TakiUdon so there's a possibility for later models to do it? (or is this referring to the build of valhalla idk im not the most tech savvy person a)
This is the handled I wanted 2 years ago.
i need a dual boot 😍
I honestly just want to see if assassin's Creed Odyssey would run on low potato settings. Prob not but I wanna try it lol
According to others in Taki's discord it won't boot, probably due to lack of 32-bit support. (64-bit has issues with directx)
@@xomm I saw that. I'm in that discord as well.
Hopefully, windows 11 can be run on Odin 2.
Can x64 applications run on windows on arm yet?
Yes
Can you play halo infinite on odin?
No, no way it has enough power from such a demanding game.
Still trying to choose between Odin and Steam Deck
Steam Deck
Since the gaming performance on Ondin was great running Windows 11 on ARM.
I will go ahed to get the Galaxy Book2 with the Snapdragon 850 which is the overclocked version of Snapdragon 845 which Odin was currently using.....