Fall of Eagles: Lenin and Trotsky in London
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Excerpt from "Absolute Beginners"; the sixth episode of the 1974 British television program Fall of Eagles.
Trotsky arrives in London and discusses the revolution with Lenin.
There is just something about Patrick Stewart's voice saying "welcome comrade" that warms the heart.
I'm a staunch anti-communist. And yet, even I would feel welcomed and relaxed if Patrick Stewart said to me "welcome comrade".
As I understand it, Patrick Stewart is an atheist.
I just started reading State and Revolution, and I can't stop reading it in Stewart's voice.
Same!
Retard degenerates. How pathetic does a person have to be to be taken in by Marxism? It clearly explains how it manipulates you and still you love it 😂😂
The entire ideology revolves around theft and diminishing yhe individual.
I am an actual communist theorist, and I find myself referring people back to this little clip over and over, to explain the point that Jean-Luc Lenin explains to ol' Lev here. This was such a good series.
So Trotsky had a 1980's Liverpool footballer curly mullet. Did not know that, did not know that.
He was excellent at keeping order at party meetings. Forever yelling 'Calm down, calm down Comrades'.
its where all the militant members got the look from
What a strange choice to play Trotsky, especially next to Stewart's portrayal of Lenin. It's so weird to see a pitch-perfect recreation of Lenin standing next to a dude in a cheap store-bought Trotsky costume.
In fairness, damn near anyone who had to share a scene with Sir Patrick Stewart would be playing second fiddle.
Trotsky and all were like kids in front of Lenin. Kids!
@@Diwana71 Trotsky was viewed highly favourably by Lenin AND Trotsky led the Petrograd Soviet at the start of the revolution.
@@Diwana71 Lenin was their god .
@@brianalonsoojeda Not true, comrade. Lenin and Trotsky had serious disagreements; the biggest being “socialism in one country” vs. “permanent revolution”. Stalin is generally regarded as being a more faithful pupil of Lenin.
"So shall we take the winter palace?"
"Make it so!"
"Ensign, lay in a course for Communism. Maximum Warp...Engage."
Star Trek was communism
@@ianhartman3877 no not really, more like federalism at a near galtictic view.
Ki Jj it has no need to work to live tho
Ki Jj in the federation the free development of each= the free development of all
9 years ago you missed the epic pun of marximum warp, smh
WARP SPEED MR. TROTSKY!
Don't rainbow read me
"And then we sell newspapers! And nothing else!" - modern trots
The USSR Enterprise, NCC-1917
USS Russian Federation, NCC-1991
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Comrade Computer, freeze programme!
meanwhile Stalin is off playin GTA: Tsarist Russia
Stalin was fighting on the ground in Russia against the Czarist secret police. He was the leader of the Black Bolsheviks. Like the armed wing of Ira.
@@Diwana71 Well said! Some people like the guy you answered don’t know much
Stalin was good as an enforcer for the revolution. As head of state, not so much.
@@user1138As a former Soviet Union citizen. Stalin was a great head of state too. His mistake was that he destroyed international movement and tried to build a socialistic state not a communist state.
@@Fair-minded.Trotskyite revisionist menshevik.
MY GOD! He looks just like him.
An Earth's history lesson for Data, played by Picard on the holodeck.
this looks like a high school theater production I was in when I was 15 but like, then patrick stewart is randomly in it.
Michael Kitchen and Patrick Stewart! What a combination!
Trotsky is played by a young Micheal Kitchen.
Really? Everybody recognizes Picard, nobody recognizes Foyle.
Interesting. So this actually came out quite a bit before Star Trek the Next Generation, in which Patrick Steward played Jean Luc Picard.
Also before Dune, which probably inspired the producers to take him on.
Long before. This was when Patrick Stewart was doing BBC historicals. The Fall Of Eagles aired two years before I, Claudius in which Stewart played Lucius Aelius Sejanus.
@NancyHey *Stewart
Workers Of All Nations Unite!!
Workers of all galaxies also.
3:54 "Have you shown it to Picard?"
You ARE Picard dude!
make it so number 1
Perfect for the role. Great likeness.
But I kept expecting romulans to burst in and bust up the place!
1:57 Earl Grey perhaps???
Glorious comrade Lenin
Oh, indeed, yes!
Communism? Make it so
I knew I could remember seeing this as a teenager! I recollect seeing 'Lenin' doing pushups to keep himself fit and focused.Is the rest of this online?
Lenin, of course, was exactly right. He almost always was.
@TheCharacterActor Stalin offered to resign twice when the "Lenin testament" came out (even though there is a lot of reasons to discredit those letters). Everyone, including Trotsky, refused his resignation.
They fucked up big time.
Proffesor X as Lenin ?
It's Picard
One can evaluate better this meeting by reading about it in en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky . He and Lenin were allies at first, fierce adversaries in the party later and allies again in 1917-23, but never close friends. There were too many disagreements between them, as Trotsky was never an unconditional follower of Lenin as some others were.
Sorry, I can't resist: "Энгеиж!"
Lenin-McCartney...wrote some good songs in their day...
what the factions of soviet socialism don't understan when debating the issue of the 1920's and the continuation of the revolution is that Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin work on the same socialist organization for more than 15 years without major contradictions, always debating with respect; then in the transition to post Lenin's leadership, the organization lost balance and lost the democratic element of 'democratic centralism' , Stalin can be blame for that, but Trostky neither was an angel...
socialism and democracy can never exist in the same goverment at the same time.
@@captrodgers4273 troll.
capt Rodgers What the fuck are you on about you twat
> Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin work on the same socialist organization for more than 15 years without major contradictions
Blatantly false, Trotsky had not become a Bolshevik until August 1917, when he was purged it had hardly been 10 years.
And lack of contradiction? Lenin stated both "Trotsky has never yet held a firm opinion on any important question of Marxism. He always contrives to worm his way into the cracks of any given difference of opinion and desert one side for the other. At the present moment he is in the company of the Bundists and the liquidators. And these gentlemen do not stand on ceremony where the Party is concerned." and "The obliging Trotsky is more dangerous than an enemy! Trotsky could produce no proof, except "private conversations" (i.e., simply gossip, on which Trotsky always subsists), ........ . How obliging Trotsky is! "
Is this not a contradiction between Lenin and Trotsky? To think that there were little contradictions when Trotsky had opposed the Bolshevik line in an attempt of unity with the right-opportunist Mensheviks for years is a massive misrepresentation of history.
Striking personalities
Comrade Charles Xavier...
Who is the person who plays the role of Trotsky? I recognize Patrick Stewart who plays the role of Lenin.
+SagesseNoir Michael Kitchen (Foyles War).
@StimulatedMindz Thank you stimulatedmindz. I never claim to know far more than everyone else.
1:58 Earl Grey, hot
Thanks for the upload. Could you upload more excerpts, please?
Oh that desired history that could not be...
Someone more skillful than myself could this into an entertaining video on TikTok to serve the Cultural Revolution.
I always though Picard was a Commie at heart.
Really? Because nowadays I see everyone killing each other for oil, resources, currency, capital, money.
Only the British can play being Europeans. Couldn't they?
The above title, it should be 'Trotzky' not the name in the above title.
could you please upload complete absolute beginners, thanks
Couldn't someone upload all Trevor Griffiths' stuff for TV??
@StimulatedMindz Lenin actually came up with NEP similar ideas were proposed by Trotsky, Zinoviev, Bukharin, etc. So is that your great homage to Trotsky? That he came up with NEP? So I guess Khrushchev, Deng, and Raul Castro are all trots right now. lol
that relies on the ideas that Revolutions can be crushed by invasion. Repression, maybe, but invasion by foreign entities? The people would resent that greatly.
Twerkers of the world untie!
Cool ! Patrick Stewart is lenin! :D
Is it true Lenin is supposed to have spoken English with an Irish accent?
Yeah and he apparently would have spoken in an accent that would have been considered posh, i wish we had more recordings of comrade Lenin
Engage! Number One, in my ready room!
Comrade Lenin
@StimulatedMindz And actually, considering that Trotsky was not even on the central committee in October he took orders from people like Lenin, Stalin, Zinoviev, etc. anyways. I think you need to try doing your research better. This is not to discount the role Trotsky played in that time period and some other things he did well, but he was hardly special. In fact he spent more time trying to discredit Lenin than working with him.
Picard using the hollodeck to play V.I. LENIN. HEHEY
@TheCharacterActor You are wrong, What history books are you reading? Have you ever even read anything by Stalin or Trotsky?
"the enemy is he who impedes the cause of revolution" - in practise, everyone who has different opinion
Дмитрий Аверьянов no, those who actively oppose the revolution. Within the Bolshevik party itself there were disagreements but when one side presented a course of action that no argument could refute, the entire party went about its execution. There is a difference between opinions and the sabotage of a worker's revolution
@andresc13193 Either my history teachers were wrong or I was not fully informed. You tell me what you know about the revolution and Stalin and I WILL listen to you.
@TheCharacterActor Stalin didn't "steal" anything, he was simply supported by the majority of the party including Trotsky. Read history before you say such stupid things.
not so fast, comrade!
What piece is Trotsky reading from?
www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1901/xx/20thcent.htm
On Optimism and Pessimism
@TheCharacterActor , , , , , ,I rest my case.
@marcelthemaoist I said I was willing to listen to anyone who can prove me wrong.
This is bombastic caricature has little to do with reality
I don’t see how Stewart plays Lenin as a ‘bombastic’ caricature. For a 70’s miniseries, Stewart does not overact, and they did good on his appearance (he looks like Vladimir). The problem is Trotsky, his actor is good and his characterization but he just looks like he’s wearing a Halloween costume.
Lensky of pushkin
Is this a holodeck
The chick who plays Tasha Yar would of been a better choice to play Trotsky 😁 or peter dorn.
@andresc13193 I rest my case.
lol learn something about marxism-leninism
@Moskau43 Fuck, so much for me being the first.
@andresc13193 OY!!!!!!!
@TheCharacterActor lulz. you obviously dont know anything about the October revolution or Stalin
@TheCharacterActor Ha ha.
Live long and prosper..
But only under a private (USS) Enterprise bourgeois capatalist ideology.. comrade..
these people were all mad
debating murder again insted of class politics, come on!
Pro communist propaganda
I mean they are Lenin and Trotsky
everything is propaganda, you are not immune to propaganda
It’s a show portraying Lenin and Trotsky. Any scene with them will be communist. Especially since it doesn’t portray them in a ‘cartoonish’ villain way. It focuses much more on portraying the last heads of dynasties, such as Tsar Nicholas II.
Sorry, let me rephrase what I said ealier. Stalin had photographs of himself altered to his means and orchestrated propaganda. I am now trying to be more precise about what I have read and what I've learned in school. Now you tell me everthing you know and I WILL LISTEN!!!.
One of the best communists and one of the worst.
ahh trotsky, the man who invented the word racism.
roguedrones Check with Webster's dictionary and you will find that word "racism" comes from the French (racism) and first appears around about 1865--1870. Leon Trotsky was born in 1879.
+Comrade Horsefucker I find it remarkable how contemporary right wingers or conservatives simply make things up and then simply assume (or assert) that stuff they make up are simply facts. For Trotsky to have invented the word "racism" he would have had to have done so BEFORE he was born!
that may indeed be true, but he's the one who pushed it though.
rd Knightmarez What you talking about? Who pushed what through?
cultrual marxism is a dogma, look it up yourself. Racism is a 'magic word'. It is not good enough, and it is being used to make the white races genocide themselves.
The revolution, Make it so.
Patrick Stewart would have made a great Ming the Merciless.