Karate is officially out of the Olympics after the 2020 games. Every host country has a say in what sports will be allowed at their Olympics. The next Olympics after Japan is in France. France is major powerhouse in WKF competitions around the world and they opted not to have karate back. The Olympics after that will be in the United States, and most likely they won't bring it back either. Regarding what type of contact will be used in kumite bouts, all one really has to do is search for WKF matches to see what it will be like. As for the kata divisions, true the WKF only recognizes the four "main" styles of karate (that Dan showed) and kata from those styles specifically, but you don't have be a black belt in those arts. You can simply learn the approved versions of the kata. Many WKF competitors don't come from the "main four", like Jesse "Karate Nerd" Enkamp or Minako "Mina" Yamasaki. The compete using shito-ryu forms.
I love the level of cheese that is thrown in casually while you are laying out a serious topic. Your delivery is excellent, and this makes me actually want to watch the Olympics this time around
I think this would be good to put karate on the map, but in saying that I do think introducing a full contact competition to compliment the kata and light contact point sparring would be great for attracting fans because some people may not take point sparring seriously where as a full contact comp would show audience that the art is no joke which would attract some older students as a lot of people who do karate from my experience are young kids (which isn’t bad) which makes people think of it as just a sport or hobby as opposed to something more.
I think it's interesting but considering we already have Taekwondo and Judo in the Olympics, yes I know those aren't Karate. But what I mean is what can Karate offer that Taekwondo, Judo, and other martial arts already offer? Full contact striking? Well, there's already Taekwondo and Boxing! Throws and Grappling? That's already Judo and the other Wrestling styles. If Kata is the only thing that separates Karate from the other martial arts, I'd say it's not as visually entertaining. That's just my opinion though.
Wow I had no idea that is pretty awesome definitely appreciate the vids I've been learning a lot watching your vids about the different types of karate and it's pretty cool
It's not really that I have knowledge, it's more so that I like to do a lot of research. I started this channel because there is a lot I don't know and I wanted to discover and share, so I decided to go on a journey in the Martial Arts and just bring all of you along with me :)
Art of One Dojo I really appreciate all that you have to share Sensei. All of my students and I are always looking forward to your videos. Hopefully you will do a history on Hapkido. That would be great. There is a new Hapkido studio within a few miles of where my school is. I’ve welcomed them in to our community with open arms and have been the best of friends ever since. I’ve learned a lot of Hapkido wrist locks and throws thus far. Please do a video on Hapkido.
I"M kind of torn on this one..I mean considering what has happened to fencing...olympic fencing basically looks like two people trying to see who can hit the other persons weapons far enough away to make contact with little or no regard for how the weapon would be used in an actual sword fight. While I am glad to see more martial arts making their way into the olympics, I can also see the potential for olympic competition to become less a contest of actual practical skill and more a dance to see who can execute a technique in a minimally effective way that shows more an ability to follow a strict set of rules rather than any ability to actually use the techniques. Yes, I know that boxing hasn't degenerated into that, although olympic boxers are required to use more safety equipment than their professoinal counterparts, particularly the use of headgear in olympic boxing matches. To my mind the olympic athletes are supposed to represent the epitome of their chosen sport and thus should be able to show the highest levels of skill and endurance. We see this in every other sport, but in combat sports, the opposite seems to be the norm, instead of seeing the skills being used to their fullest and the athletes showing not only that skill, but their defensive skills as well, along with the high level of conditioning necessary to endure the hardships of a fight at that level. To be honest this sort of hist on something I had commented on before about how with every other sport, the EXTREME version is a more dangerous, higher risk version while with martial arts the opposite is the case and the only thing that makes extreme martial arts extreme is the inclusion of a lot of gymnastic flips and tumbling and the exclusion of combat effective fighting techniques, but I digress, sort of. My whole point is that instead of making them hold back and make the contests less interesting and less a real test and demonstration of actual skill than an exercise in unrealistic rules that not only detract from the skills of the competitors and re-inforceing the erroneous belief by so many, including trained, professional fighters, MMA practitioners, law enforcement and military personnel among others, that traditional martial arts are of no real use and have no place outside of the ring and that those that practice traditional martial arts are not effective fighters, they should be promoting the idea that these fighters are capable of the highest levels of skill and encouraging them to show what that level of skill can actually be . And yes I know that a number of MMA practitoiners have trained in traditional martial arts but some of them do still hold to the idea that martial arts aren't useful outside the ring, some ever promoting the idea that one should never try to use their skills to defend themselves because they will always fail. Olympic level martial artists should be able to fight full contact, as that is, outside of actual life and death combat, as true a representation of skill as we are likely to see. Your description of what the rules for Kumite are going to be just seem like it will prevent the fighters from showing not only their level of skill but from sowing that the techniques are usable and viable.
I agree, I was so disappointed the first time I saw Taekwondo at the Olympics. It did not lo0ok like skilled competition, it simply looked like 2 people hopping up and down on one leg throwing very bad kicks most of the time. I've been practicing for 26 years and I don't bother watching it during the Olympics anymore because of that. And I also agree about the power ( or lack thereof) used. Most people think of Taekwondo as being about quick kicks, but there is a lot of power in those kick too. I've been knocked across the room by my teacher's kicks, but those taps used in the Olympics would barely move my 12 year old self. I'm not saying people need to try and hurt each other, but what is shown now it embarrassing.
@@Speculativedude Your mention of the power in your teachers kicks reminds me of an incident that happened to a friend of mine. He decided to add Taekwondo to the things that he already knew so he signed up for on of the local schools. He and I had spend a good deal of time sparring and basically held back just enough to not seriously injure each other, but we went pretty hard up to that limit. At the end of his first week at the school the instructor had him participate in one of the sparring sessions. He was told to hold back and only use about half strength and speed. He did so and after complaints from his opponent was admonished by the instructor for going too hard. He explained that he was only going have strength and was told to hold back even more. After being admonished two more times and each time holding back even more the instructor told him that he obviously lacked the control needed for point sparring and tournament fighting and should sit out the rest of the sparring session. He said that after the sparring the instructor demonstrated the level of power he said was acceptable and it was little more than a light tap, like a leaf falling on a tin roof. Just enough to be felt but having zero effectiveness. When asked about that level of power would be useful in a self defense situation, the instructor said to him, and this is a direct quote, "we don't train for self defense here, only for tournaments. If you want self defense, buy a gun, martial arts don't work outside of a ring anyway, at least not anymore." Needless to say he never went back and more than willingly gave up the month he had prepaid for. I was not surprised when I heard, several months later that the school had closed due to a high drop out rate and lack of new students. If that is what is expected in tournaments, it is no wonder that we don't see proper levels of power in olympic level matches.
@@EVENINGWOLF666 I completely agree. I went to full contact tournaments in the early 2000s and in those even though we were told to hold back the power a bit, there were bloody noses and a few broken noses and jaws with no disqualifications. Those were what taught me to use good power and defense. Not tap someone with your toes.
Howdy! I appreciate the fact that as a Karatedo practitioner, I think it's awesome that it is added to the Olympic games! I was, at first, kinda like why so few styles are represented in Kata, until you explained why! I do agree that too much politics is a terrible thing, in anything, especially Martial Arts, but when it gets too political, it does (in my opinion), cause people to lose focus on what Martial Arts is all about; which is doing our best and improving our selves and our art; the worst thing is that too much politics creates divisions instead of inclusion (and understanding)! I say this because politics hinders us coming together as Martial Artists (no matter what style, or what art)! Thanks for your videos!
Very cool 👍 there are so many different types of martial arts...they should ALL be a part of the Olympics. Would be so cool if Art of One Dojo could cover the martial arts at the Olympics when they compete! Would be great to have commentators like you for the Olympic martial arts division that knew the particulars of what they were covering. 👍
I disagree that every martial art should be in the Olympics. By that I mean, I'm primarily talking about Kung Fu. There's way too many forms of Kung Fu, there couldn't possibly be a single winner. I even read from the book There Are No Secrets by author Wolfe Lowenthal in which it's one of the books in my collection pertaining to the late Tai Chi Quan master Cheng Man-ching. He stated Tai Chi Quan tournaments have become a disaster. The forms are not as they should be (many forms look sloppy) & even some events, contestants are judged by people hired who haven't even been to a class. Too many contests, IMO, actually water down the arts to a sport level rather than maintaining its spiritual side. Even BJJ is not a true martial art in the sense of not having anything to do with the Tao. It's actually just two guys grappling like a pair of Neanderthals. BJJ in the Olympics? I'm all for it because it is what it is, a competition sport.
I am also dissapointed that karate will not be included in 2024. Here in Thailand Muay Thai is considered a more rural and "Lo-So" activity, while Tae Kwon Do is considered a more "Hi-So" activity so it is taught in the more upscale private schools. One exception is the school I work for which doesn't have a Tae Kwon Do class, but instead has Shotokan Karate Do. One of our gym teachers started the program years ago because he is an Instructor and actually competed representing JKA Thailand in the World Championships back in the early 2000's. Karate is very small here in Thailand, which means alummni of my school if they kept up their training would have a chance of representing Thailand in the Olympic games. Here's hoping for 2028, and GANBATEE to all the Olympian Karateka in 2020!
Personally I find the light contact and kyokoshin full contact but no face hitting equally silly, there’s no need for the “superiority” thing. If you go full contact you should be allowed too hit anywhere with only a few obvious exceptions. Personally I really dislike point sparing (non continuous) as it makes people adopt wierd stances and it stops as soon as it gets fun.
I’d like to see a historic “Japanese martial arts ceremony” take place before the matches begin. Since Okinawa/Japan is the birth place of “karate” as we know it today, it’s only fitting that Olympic karate have some tribute to its historic roots.
Scorch1028 I’m not the only one I was thinking like what China did with tai chi and japan will do with the samurai, then karate old school then a new school karate look and then an ending with mordern era technology like there games and anime would be amazing
Good morning Sensei Dan, how are you? Here is hoping that your day is off to an excellent start. First and foremost I am pleased that for next year's, Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games, Karate has been introduced as another martial arts sports, besides the already established ones of Judo, freestyle wrestling, Greco-Roman wrestling, taekwondo and boxing! What is disappointing is that we are always at it again, in this childish back and forth games by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) crowns who are out of touch and like a mafia organisation, acting unreasonably and diplomatically. What I am referring to is that taekwondo had the same problem, it had been introduced at the Seoul, South Korean, Olympic Summer games. Only to be removed and not reappear permanently once again, if my memory serves me correctly at the 2000 Summer Olympic games of Sydney, Australia. If I am not mistaken Wushu had been an introduction martial arts sport, at the Beijing Summer Olympics, only to be axed from it thereafter. These cretins of the IOC need to be dismissed and replaced with more open minded, progressive individuals, who are truly sensible, wise, as well as in touch with reality, giving what us sporting fans truly want. To allow a sport to form part of an Olympic Games event, only to dismiss at other Olympic Games, is idiotic and time consuming in my opinion. The International Olympics Committee needs to be replaced by getting rid of most of its corrupt members, just like FIFA (Federal International Football Association) soccer's global governing body did, when it dismissed the former corrupt president of its organisation, Sapp Blatter and his cronies, for taking bribe money and other corrupt, administrative practices. Now that such people are gone for good, FIFA functions more smoothly, more transparent and soccer fans around the world are more happy, as our voices are heard. Now back to Karate in the Olympics, since there are two types of wrestling, freestyle and Greco-Roman wrestling, with each having their own sets of rules, to cater for the similarities, but most importantly the differences, for its respective competitors, then why should Olympic Karate sort to speak, not have just Kata and point scoring events, but why not its third event variation being full contact Karate? That way everyone has a chance to participate, in terms of their level of ability, physical athleticism, conditioning, as well as their own personal level of comfort in whichever type of rules they would feel comfortable and safe to do so. The IOC needs to realise that people will participate in full contact sports, whether they deem it safe or unsafe. At the end of the day those who participate in such sports, do so out of their own free will and are highly trained, as well as physically and psychologically well prepared and conditioned to do so. These Olympic Committee morons are seriously out of touch and I can see why Brazilian jiu-jitsu governing federations, refuse to have the IOC get involved and become their overall governing and sanctioning organisation, given that they will become watered down sports, as has been the case with both Olympic style Judo and Olympic Style taekwondo. The irony of this Sensei Dan, is that the Olympics having its origins in Ancient Greece, in those ancient times wrestling and the ancient hybrid mixed martial art of Pankration or Pankrase, were part of the ancient Greek and original Olympic games, where in both sports at times participants could and did die. We do not need that in modern times as you said, however also not a childish, watered down and ridiculous version of combat sports either. The Olympic Committee hides behind the excuse of making them children and family friendly events. Children these days play video games or watch films with far more graphically depicted violence, not to mention the inappropriate materials that they search, or share amongst themselves on the internet, through social media. Now point scoring or light contact Karate is not so bad entirely, after all. I can see its merits and also validity in a martial artist's journey when it comes to refined and precise skill, as well as technique. Your fellow American Kenpo Karate, taekwondo and kickboxing exponent, former K-1 World Grand and Glory Kickboxing fighter and current Bellator MMA world kickboxing champion, as well former Karate world champion, Sensei Raymond Daniels said the following. Point scoring and light contact Karate made him work to fine tune his speed, footwork, timing, reflex reactions, accuracy and technique, delivery precision, as well as intelligent strategy against his opponents, given that he could not strike them full power, to end the fights in knockouts. Once Sensei Raymond Daniels transitioned into full contact Karate as well as kickboxing and mixed martial, he said that his reflexes, technique, footwork, speed, evasion and reactions made him unpredictable, as well as hard to hit by his opponents, often making them miss and capitalise for a knockout counterattack in response. His only adjustment needed in full contact fighting, was doing lots of full contact conditioning drills, to get used to the physical demands punishment of full contact fighting. So overall everything is important and beneficial in martial arts. As for Kata I disagree with limiting it to a number of styles. I do not need to be an expert in Chinese Kung Fu/Wushu, taekwondo, Tang Soo Do, Hapkido, Hwa Rang Do, Capoeira, etc to know what to look for in terms of the forms/katas at tournaments. You yourself Sensei Dan I am sure have been able to see for yourself, irrelevant of your background in American Kenpo, watching the awful forms/katas, of the unfortunate individuals attending McDojos. To put it simply our good friend and fellow bonafide martial artist, Sensei Ichi and two of his students, were invited to compete at a Shotokan Karate tournament. The three of them did extremely well with their katas/forms, against the other Shotokan Karate exponents, coming with two third place trophies in the kata division and one fourth place trophy! The point is that they competed at a Shotokan Karate tournament, using their Tang Soo Do (Pomse) katas/forms. So obviously the Shotokan Karate judges irrelevant of these three individuals using a Korean martial art's form in a Japanese martial art's forms/katas competition, was not a problem for the judging criteria. At Kyokushin Karate tournaments though not a frequent occurrence, from time to time we have had Kung Fu stylists compete in our katas competitions and successfully doing. You and I would agree Sensei Dan, that if we were judging a kata/forms competition from say Hapkido or Kung Fu for example, that although we do not know those forms or katas from those styles, that we would be looking for criteria aspects such as power, speed, posture, balance, stances, timing, the right pauses in between each technique, instead of washing machine style, where one technique is mixed right into another, win without clear distinction of where one movement ends or begins from another one. So again limiting even kata event at the Olympics, to participants of only a selected number of Karate styles, seems to me ludicrous. Now then there is ambiguity of katas themselves. While mostly the same not only amongst my fellow Kyokushin Karate practitioners, I have noticed that some Shotokan, Goju-Ryu or Wado Ryu Karate practitioners for example, even amongst themselves there is at times, slight different movements in some of the same katas that they practice. So based on that logic or analogy, given Kyokushinkaikan finds its origins in both Shotokan and Goju-Ryu Karate, both of which form part of the styles recognised for the Olympic Karate Kata event. Would I then theoretically be able to argue my case, against the clowns of the Olympic Committee and tell them that in Kyokushin Karate, we have our katas from both Goju-Ryu and Shotokan Karate, emanate both styles, thus be allowed compete in the katas competitions? In my opinion any style of Karate should allowed enter kata event. Since as I said they should be judged on the performance factors, such adequate power, speed, posture, timing, balance and also credibility of the performer exhibiting the katas. Lastly I sincerely hope that Karate will become a permanent fixture at the Olympic Games, along with other combat sports such boxing, wrestling, judo and taekwondo, however with the added, alternative inclusion, as an added possibility full contact Karate. So glad that you decided to highlight Karate as an Olympic event, outstanding job as always Sensei Dan, Osu!🥋🇲🇽🇦🇺✌👍😊
I agree with most of this except the part about the Kata. I would not be a fair judge for any Shotokan or Tang Soo do Kata because while it might look good in my eyes...there are details I'm not aware of. Just like someone judging a Kenpo competition without knowing Kenpo, they would not know the small details that makes a Kata good or not. Certain beats, minuscule angles, and tiny details. I don't know if I agree with the specific choices in the Olympics, but I can understand why it would be limited.
Artur Soczawa-Stronczyk. They should really bring MMA or kickboxing in to the Olympics to allow more people from different backgrounds to compete. Because there’s no giant paychecks involved it shouldn’t be as homogeneous as the professional leagues
I was wondering if you would be willing to make a video about Shorin Ryu Shorinkan. I recently started taking my sons to a class at the ymca and just wanted to learn more about it from other sources than the instructor.
I can't believe it's not even 2020 yet, and it's already been decided to not have karate at the 2024 olympics. Now, I do not like competitive karate practices (I think both styles of kumite you mentioned are stupid, and competitive kata practices are empty to me), but the rules do support a sustainable sport version of the art, and it's completely Olympics appropriate. I have seen competition Judo throws that I felt were more dangerous.
As far as I know, punches to the head are not allow to touch. Punches to the body only marking points. No excessive force ( whatever does that mean), front kicks doesn't score points, front kicks to the face aren't allow...
I know people would favor Kyokushin for the Olympics but Why not they put Kickboxing in the Olympics? Since boxing is already in there. I know in The World Games event they have Jujitsu and Kickboxing with K-1 rules.
Hello m.r Dan i personally study in kempo karate and am at orange belt level almost purple but I’ve been working hard practicing almost every day and have hit my own sort of road block and would like some advice to deal with my impatience.
Hi Heather! I hope I can help. What kind of road block are you hitting? What part of it are you becoming impatient with? I can understand this as Kenpo can be a lot of material and it's easy to want to get through it quickly but there is a lot to digest. What part of it do you feel is dragging? I sometimes find when I am getting stuck or I feel like I'm getting stale, I try to see another perspective of it. If it's a Kata or technique, I try to read about it in outside sources, or ask someone new to show it to me, or watch others do it on RUclips and talk about it, or take it apart and try to find tiny details you didn't notice before. Stuff like that helps give me "AH HA!" moments when I discover something new, or realize there was part of the system I hadn't taken into account before. Even after 26 years I still get these "Ah ha!" moments all the time. Sometimes just hearing or watching another person describe or do it unlocks new information. What part of it are you getting blocked up on. Is this Ed Parker American Kempo?
So when they have karate in Olympics will they still have Taekwondo and judo or will they alternate between them or does it depend on where the Olympics are held or is karate going to replace one of those, should any other martial art be included in the Olympics in the future
Karate will not replace TKD or Judo, they still have those events, however, Karate is currently ONLY in the 2020 Olympics. It has not been approved for any future events yet.
I think that the Olympic approach to Karate is a huge improvement over Olympic TKD. It seems that they've learned from TKD's weaknesses. For instance, the electronic scoring system and the ridiculous e-Hogu's of TKD will not be present in Karate. Also, finally having a forms competition in the Olympics is amazing, I never understood why that was left out of TKD. Personally, the light-contact point-sparring version of Kumite is what we practice in our Tang Soo Do-based school, and I believe it's the best form of sport combat, so I'm happy to see it and I wish that the Kukkiwon would learn from this. I was at one of the Team USA TKD qualifiers earlier this year, and I just couldn't believe how many teens and twenty-somethings were being carried out on stretchers and into the line of waiting ambulances. That's just unnecessary. All of that combination protective/e-scoring gear just restricts movement and changes the art, while doing little to actually protect someone in full contact. For those who believe that all sport combat should be full contact, I'd wager that most of them have never been struck with a full contact side-kick. I have (by a new student who didn't have control of power or distance), and I had 2.5 months of nursing my broken ribs. That to me is where I draw the line at sport versus idiocy. If an MMA fighter wants to earn half a million bucks in the octagon, have fun with it, but that's not sport combat for the rest of us.
A great man, or at the very least his voice is great (ramsey dewy) said that you should never take a fight you’re not getting payed for. I fully agree with this. Personally I feel they should just allow punching to the face in WTF TKD. It completely changes the approach and would stop people doing stupid stuff that ends with them getting seriously hurt, like never having your hands up to protect thier head.
I don’t have anything against MMA fights, but yes I agree that light combat is still good. Also the people in Olympic Karate are good Martial Artist because they are light on their feet. I think that’s something MMA lost over time and I’m glad it’s coming back.
@@edrichlouw1790 Ya even in MMA training, they have to go somewhat easy on each other. Otherwise they'd be recovering from injury constantly and would never make it into the octagon. So the only time they let it all hang out is when the big money is in the house. Icy Mike says it better than I ever could: ruclips.net/video/1MbMT3Oa3gU/видео.html
What is the consensus of karate practitioners on karate in the Olympics? Bjj is really split in the topic. On one hand it is a great way to boost the art. However on the other it can water down the art. Focusing on the sport more than the art. Also it can face the issue of Judo with cumbersome rules to distinguish itself from other sports.
I think that BJJ would be a great Olympic sport honestly. So much skill and tactics to it I think it would be a great event and a very clear winner when you can submit your opponent.
Art of One Dojo I’d tend to agree but the IOC would want a fast pace/viewer friendly version of the sport. Especially if it was going to be televised. Karate point sparring is easy to watch because it makes sense to the average viewer. Because to the average viewer they can see the end result quickly. Someone getting punched or kicked. Kata also can be easy to watch because it would be close to a gymnastic floor routine. People can see crisp and athletic movements. Now of course I’m sure kumite must have some gnarly meta games what with using distance management and timing to execute techniques that us martial arts nerds would love to watch. But bjj suffers from not looking as pretty. Our ground work, while trying for submissions, often doesn’t lead to one because the other bjj player is keen to defend it. Now I absolutely love the meta games. Watching a great guard passer vs a great guard player is awesome but unfortunately most people would find it boring. This is why Greco was put on the chopping block by the IOC. Because the layperson didn’t tune in to watch it. Of course wrestling got overturned but the IOC wants sports that people can easily consume on tv that they can put sponsors on. I love the videos by the way! This is a super cool platform to learn about martial arts and to interact with other martial artists.
Hey aod, will you ever do a video on fake martial artists, I ask because recently at my bjj school we had a fake black belt show up. I wanted to hear your own anecdotes and historical ones.
Hmmm I don't know...I don't think I really want to go that route only because I like to promote positive sides of the Martial arts and encourage others to learn. Maybe one day, and if I ever did this topic I wouldn't be trying to expose others, but maybe rather try to teach the tools to help recognize people like that. Too many channels do the Martial Arts Frauds videos, I don't want to just become another one of them.
Probably French Olympic Committee. They Have In Mind Savate Instead Traditional Karate. Exactly What Happened 1924 Summer Olympics In Paris France. The Way Is Going Because COVID-19 Pandemic. Thinking About Postponed Tokyo 2020 Olympics For Next Year 2021. 🤷♂️
Not all martial artists are athletes or train like one so it is hard fore to picture them in the Olympics. Still alot of Martial artists rely only on their training and kinda slack off on sparring, physical conditioning and endurance. That is why we see alot of wanna be fighters and noodle arm warriors.
The weight classes seem really bad, does everyone in karate have to be a lightweight? Imagine an 80kg male fighter going up against someone who is 100kg, massive difference that you could only see in kyokushin! Luckily it's point fighting, which I don't support because it's presenting a fake kumite to the public, but atleast it's showing karate to the public.
Yes, this is from the Tokyo Olympics Requirement Page: - Be born on or before 8 May 2004 for the Kata events and on or before 8 May 2002 for the Kumite events. You can find more info here: www.wkf.net/pdf/final-tokyo2020-qualificationsystem-karate.pdf
I don't have a school myself. I taught part time for a local Kenpo school for their children's classes until just recently (needed to devote more time to my actual job of video production, my own training, and of course this channel). I get together with fellow local Kenpo friends and we spar and workout together, as well as I'm taking regular classes in JuJutsu/Judo at a school in Boca Raton, Florida.
Really sucks that Wushu isn't in the current Olympics considering how different it is and it's scale. Happy for karate having got in even though at first I felt it was pointless with the fact that Taekwondo is in it, though thats the 'only kicks' WT version right? So I can accept karate's addition.
I think more arts should be represented, especially Wushu I agree!!! Wushu is AWESOME to watch and every bit as a skill as figure skating or gymastics.
@@dakentaijutsu2010 ur looking at it too shallowly. Its sport. Imagine if they did full contact knockdown style for the Olympics? Do u know how many matches those ppl have to have to get to the finals? Most competitors would have serious damage before they even made it that far. Its not healthy.
"Surprisingly however, except for a handful of arts, the martial arts have largely been missing from the Olympic games. Namely Karate and Kung Fu...." Love the videos, but this sentence and idea seems conflicted to me. I don't mean to split hairs, but I felt I should make a note. Boxing, Greco-roman and freestyle Wrestling, Judo, Taekwondo and fencing are only a handful? Karate and Kung Fu make up the balance? I might have noted that some of the most popular martial arts have been missing. Keep up the great work, best wishes!
You do bring up a good point, but to answer your question, yes Judo, TKD, Boxing, Fencing, Freestyle and Greco-Roman Wrestling, and Fencing are a handful when you consider they are 6 out of hundreds of different arts. Karate and Kung Fu may not make up the rest...but they are the highest profile and a very significant chunk of the arts out there. Many styles of Karate and hundreds of styles in the Chinese arts. That is why I made that statement. But I do agree there is a LOT missing. I would love to see Muay Thai represented, or BJJ or other JuJutsu styles, and even Kalaripayattu would be great to see in a forms and weapons division.
I just wanted to say that Moses T Collier Jr brings up a good point, it got me thinking what about Escrime (Philippine Fighting Art), I think that would be a good addition to the Olympics. I also think Kendo (or other Japanese Sword arts) would be an awesome addition! If anybody has any thoughts on this, I'd like to hear them!
That’s awesome, I think once they allow a sport they shouldn’t take it out unless it’s absolutely necessary, why won’t it be allowed in France 2024, will they have team competition, breaking, weapons, so it’s more like continuous sparring than point sparring, so any karate styles can compete in sparring but not in forms, i think they could allow any styles to do any kata, just like they do in open martial arts competition where any martial arts can compete together (Karate, TKD, Kungfu, Kajukenbo, Tukong, Tang Soo do, kickboxing, Hwa Rang Do and so on) they focus more on the power, flexibility, agility, confidence, skills, speed and since the basics are similar in the arts like the kicks punches and blocks then they judge on is the punch powerful, is it a good kick, is it a proper block, does it look like it could work, they need to include kickboxing or Capoeira
Currently no team compeitions in terms of group forms, no breaking, or weapons as far as I understand. Just solo point sparring and single kata competitions.
Yeah but hasn’t the Olympics been in other countries that had their own martial arts or sport that wasn’t Taekwondo or Judo or maybe that country didn’t have a basketball team or track team and they still competed in the other sports but I don’t think they didn’t allow judo or taekwondo or skiing just cause they didn’t have that as their main sport or didn’t have competitors for that event
I study TKD, so I'm not as familiar with Karate as most of you. Lately, I've been seeing a lot of videos like this one: ruclips.net/video/Ei3VYp1kqdI/видео.html . The people who post them claim that this is what the 2020 games are going to look like. Please tell me that's not true.
I seriously doubt it will be like that. TKD isn't like this in the Olympics. This seems odd but most WKF fights don't have NO HITS. This video is ridiculous though.
The Olympic Games is a danger for Karate as a martial art. If karate wants to be on the Olympic, it must be point-based, otherwise it becomes dangerous. Now, for a contact sport, karate will be water downed and that is why, karate will become a sport and cease to be a martial art. The only part of karate that may be used for Olympic is kata and that is because in kata, the spirit of karate remains. Kata is very subjective but as the video mention, there are aspects that can be evaluated. It is impossible to have all styles included but regardless of your style, the core of most of katas is the same so learning a variation is totally possible.
Karate is officially out of the Olympics after the 2020 games. Every host country has a say in what sports will be allowed at their Olympics. The next Olympics after Japan is in France. France is major powerhouse in WKF competitions around the world and they opted not to have karate back. The Olympics after that will be in the United States, and most likely they won't bring it back either.
Regarding what type of contact will be used in kumite bouts, all one really has to do is search for WKF matches to see what it will be like. As for the kata divisions, true the WKF only recognizes the four "main" styles of karate (that Dan showed) and kata from those styles specifically, but you don't have be a black belt in those arts. You can simply learn the approved versions of the kata. Many WKF competitors don't come from the "main four", like Jesse "Karate Nerd" Enkamp or Minako "Mina" Yamasaki. The compete using shito-ryu forms.
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Imo it would be more interesting for them to do kyokushin rules. Control is demonstrated in Kata, power is demonstrated with kumite.
I love the level of cheese that is thrown in casually while you are laying out a serious topic. Your delivery is excellent, and this makes me actually want to watch the Olympics this time around
I'm so excited that they are doing Katas along with sparring!
Thank you for this episode on the 2020 Olympics! Well done and please give us more of this kind of news. Good going Mr. Dan.
I think this would be good to put karate on the map, but in saying that I do think introducing a full contact competition to compliment the kata and light contact point sparring would be great for attracting fans because some people may not take point sparring seriously where as a full contact comp would show audience that the art is no joke which would attract some older students as a lot of people who do karate from my experience are young kids (which isn’t bad) which makes people think of it as just a sport or hobby as opposed to something more.
Watching this in 2024. I hope the channel is still going strong !!!
We're still going! We're having scheduling issues getting as many out as we did but we're still going! :)
I think it's interesting but considering we already have Taekwondo and Judo in the Olympics, yes I know those aren't Karate. But what I mean is what can Karate offer that Taekwondo, Judo, and other martial arts already offer? Full contact striking? Well, there's already Taekwondo and Boxing! Throws and Grappling? That's already Judo and the other Wrestling styles. If Kata is the only thing that separates Karate from the other martial arts, I'd say it's not as visually entertaining. That's just my opinion though.
Great idea for a video! I hope this becomes the #1 search result for karate in the Olympics.
Thank you so much! I appreciate this comment!
Wow I had no idea that is pretty awesome definitely appreciate the vids I've been learning a lot watching your vids about the different types of karate and it's pretty cool
You have a lot of knowledge Sensei Dan. Sensei can you please do a video on the history of Hapkido? Thank you Sensei.
It's not really that I have knowledge, it's more so that I like to do a lot of research. I started this channel because there is a lot I don't know and I wanted to discover and share, so I decided to go on a journey in the Martial Arts and just bring all of you along with me :)
Art of One Dojo I really appreciate all that you have to share Sensei. All of my students and I are always looking forward to your videos. Hopefully you will do a history on Hapkido. That would be great.
There is a new Hapkido studio within a few miles of where my school is. I’ve welcomed them in to our community with open arms and have been the best of friends ever since.
I’ve learned a lot of Hapkido wrist locks and throws thus far. Please do a video on Hapkido.
I"M kind of torn on this one..I mean considering what has happened to fencing...olympic fencing basically looks like two people trying to see who can hit the other persons weapons far enough away to make contact with little or no regard for how the weapon would be used in an actual sword fight. While I am glad to see more martial arts making their way into the olympics, I can also see the potential for olympic competition to become less a contest of actual practical skill and more a dance to see who can execute a technique in a minimally effective way that shows more an ability to follow a strict set of rules rather than any ability to actually use the techniques. Yes, I know that boxing hasn't degenerated into that, although olympic boxers are required to use more safety equipment than their professoinal counterparts, particularly the use of headgear in olympic boxing matches. To my mind the olympic athletes are supposed to represent the epitome of their chosen sport and thus should be able to show the highest levels of skill and endurance. We see this in every other sport, but in combat sports, the opposite seems to be the norm, instead of seeing the skills being used to their fullest and the athletes showing not only that skill, but their defensive skills as well, along with the high level of conditioning necessary to endure the hardships of a fight at that level. To be honest this sort of hist on something I had commented on before about how with every other sport, the EXTREME version is a more dangerous, higher risk version while with martial arts the opposite is the case and the only thing that makes extreme martial arts extreme is the inclusion of a lot of gymnastic flips and tumbling and the exclusion of combat effective fighting techniques, but I digress, sort of. My whole point is that instead of making them hold back and make the contests less interesting and less a real test and demonstration of actual skill than an exercise in unrealistic rules that not only detract from the skills of the competitors and re-inforceing the erroneous belief by so many, including trained, professional fighters, MMA practitioners, law enforcement and military personnel among others, that traditional martial arts are of no real use and have no place outside of the ring and that those that practice traditional martial arts are not effective fighters, they should be promoting the idea that these fighters are capable of the highest levels of skill and encouraging them to show what that level of skill can actually be
. And yes I know that a number of MMA practitoiners have trained in traditional martial arts but some of them do still hold to the idea that martial arts aren't useful outside the ring, some ever promoting the idea that one should never try to use their skills to defend themselves because they will always fail.
Olympic level martial artists should be able to fight full contact, as that is, outside of actual life and death combat, as true a representation of skill as we are likely to see. Your description of what the rules for Kumite are going to be just seem like it will prevent the fighters from showing not only their level of skill but from sowing that the techniques are usable and viable.
I agree, I was so disappointed the first time I saw Taekwondo at the Olympics. It did not lo0ok like skilled competition, it simply looked like 2 people hopping up and down on one leg throwing very bad kicks most of the time. I've been practicing for 26 years and I don't bother watching it during the Olympics anymore because of that. And I also agree about the power ( or lack thereof) used. Most people think of Taekwondo as being about quick kicks, but there is a lot of power in those kick too. I've been knocked across the room by my teacher's kicks, but those taps used in the Olympics would barely move my 12 year old self. I'm not saying people need to try and hurt each other, but what is shown now it embarrassing.
@@Speculativedude Your mention of the power in your teachers kicks reminds me of an incident that happened to a friend of mine. He decided to add Taekwondo to the things that he already knew so he signed up for on of the local schools. He and I had spend a good deal of time sparring and basically held back just enough to not seriously injure each other, but we went pretty hard up to that limit. At the end of his first week at the school the instructor had him participate in one of the sparring sessions. He was told to hold back and only use about half strength and speed. He did so and after complaints from his opponent was admonished by the instructor for going too hard. He explained that he was only going have strength and was told to hold back even more. After being admonished two more times and each time holding back even more the instructor told him that he obviously lacked the control needed for point sparring and tournament fighting and should sit out the rest of the sparring session. He said that after the sparring the instructor demonstrated the level of power he said was acceptable and it was little more than a light tap, like a leaf falling on a tin roof. Just enough to be felt but having zero effectiveness. When asked about that level of power would be useful in a self defense situation, the instructor said to him, and this is a direct quote, "we don't train for self defense here, only for tournaments. If you want self defense, buy a gun, martial arts don't work outside of a ring anyway, at least not anymore." Needless to say he never went back and more than willingly gave up the month he had prepaid for. I was not surprised when I heard, several months later that the school had closed due to a high drop out rate and lack of new students. If that is what is expected in tournaments, it is no wonder that we don't see proper levels of power in olympic level matches.
@@EVENINGWOLF666 I completely agree. I went to full contact tournaments in the early 2000s and in those even though we were told to hold back the power a bit, there were bloody noses and a few broken noses and jaws with no disqualifications. Those were what taught me to use good power and defense. Not tap someone with your toes.
Thanks for sharing, Sensei Dan! I appreciate your videos! Keep up the good work!
Howdy! I appreciate the fact that as a Karatedo practitioner, I think it's awesome that it is added to the Olympic games! I was, at first, kinda like why so few styles are represented in Kata, until you explained why! I do agree that too much politics is a terrible thing, in anything, especially Martial Arts, but when it gets too political, it does (in my opinion), cause people to lose focus on what Martial Arts is all about; which is doing our best and improving our selves and our art; the worst thing is that too much politics creates divisions instead of inclusion (and understanding)! I say this because politics hinders us coming together as Martial Artists (no matter what style, or what art)! Thanks for your videos!
Very cool 👍 there are so many different types of martial arts...they should ALL be a part of the Olympics. Would be so cool if Art of One Dojo could cover the martial arts at the Olympics when they compete! Would be great to have commentators like you for the Olympic martial arts division that knew the particulars of what they were covering. 👍
William W I agree 100%.
I disagree that every martial art should be in the Olympics. By that I mean, I'm primarily talking about Kung Fu. There's way too many forms of Kung Fu, there couldn't possibly be a single winner. I even read from the book There Are No Secrets by author Wolfe Lowenthal in which it's one of the books in my collection pertaining to the late Tai Chi Quan master Cheng Man-ching. He stated Tai Chi Quan tournaments have become a disaster. The forms are not as they should be (many forms look sloppy) & even some events, contestants are judged by people hired who haven't even been to a class. Too many contests, IMO, actually water down the arts to a sport level rather than maintaining its spiritual side. Even BJJ is not a true martial art in the sense of not having anything to do with the Tao. It's actually just two guys grappling like a pair of Neanderthals. BJJ in the Olympics? I'm all for it because it is what it is, a competition sport.
It about time the put karate in the Olympics 💪💯💯💪
Cool work sir 👏👍
I can wait to watch it! It's just a shame that they won't be doing it in the 2024 Olympics 😔
Can't wait
I am also dissapointed that karate will not be included in 2024. Here in Thailand Muay Thai is considered a more rural and "Lo-So" activity, while Tae Kwon Do is considered a more "Hi-So" activity so it is taught in the more upscale private schools. One exception is the school I work for which doesn't have a Tae Kwon Do class, but instead has Shotokan Karate Do. One of our gym teachers started the program years ago because he is an Instructor and actually competed representing JKA Thailand in the World Championships back in the early 2000's. Karate is very small here in Thailand, which means alummni of my school if they kept up their training would have a chance of representing Thailand in the Olympic games. Here's hoping for 2028, and GANBATEE to all the Olympian Karateka in 2020!
thanks for the video sensei it is a shame it's only going to be the one year
Personally I find the light contact and kyokoshin full contact but no face hitting equally silly, there’s no need for the “superiority” thing. If you go full contact you should be allowed too hit anywhere with only a few obvious exceptions. Personally I really dislike point sparing (non continuous) as it makes people adopt wierd stances and it stops as soon as it gets fun.
I’ve read the rules, it looks like stomping the groin/nut shots are 4 points, is that right?
1Slayer6661 unfortunately not. We are pushing hard but Ameridote still isn’t recognized by the wkf even though it’s obviously far superior.
I’d like to see a historic “Japanese martial arts ceremony” take place before the matches begin. Since Okinawa/Japan is the birth place of “karate” as we know it today, it’s only fitting that Olympic karate have some tribute to its historic roots.
At least it's cool that it's in Japan. That seems very appropriate for the first year of Karate in the Olympics.
Scorch1028 I’m not the only one I was thinking like what China did with tai chi and japan will do with the samurai, then karate old school then a new school karate look and then an ending with mordern era technology like there games and anime would be amazing
@@carllubrin8518 True, South Korea also did the same kind of demo with Taekwondo when they hosted the games.
Good morning Sensei Dan, how are you? Here is hoping that your day is off to an excellent start. First and foremost I am pleased that for next year's, Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games, Karate has been introduced as another martial arts sports, besides the already established ones of Judo, freestyle wrestling, Greco-Roman wrestling, taekwondo and boxing!
What is disappointing is that we are always at it again, in this childish back and forth games by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) crowns who are out of touch and like a mafia organisation, acting unreasonably and diplomatically. What I am referring to is that taekwondo had the same problem, it had been introduced at the Seoul, South Korean, Olympic Summer games. Only to be removed and not reappear permanently once again, if my memory serves me correctly at the 2000 Summer Olympic games of Sydney, Australia. If I am not mistaken Wushu had been an introduction martial arts sport, at the Beijing Summer Olympics, only to be axed from it thereafter. These cretins of the IOC need to be dismissed and replaced with more open minded, progressive individuals, who are truly sensible, wise, as well as in touch with reality, giving what us sporting fans truly want.
To allow a sport to form part of an Olympic Games event, only to dismiss at other Olympic Games, is idiotic and time consuming in my opinion. The International Olympics Committee needs to be replaced by getting rid of most of its corrupt members, just like FIFA (Federal International Football Association) soccer's global governing body did, when it dismissed the former corrupt president of its organisation, Sapp Blatter and his cronies, for taking bribe money and other corrupt, administrative practices. Now that such people are gone for good, FIFA functions more smoothly, more transparent and soccer fans around the world are more happy, as our voices are heard.
Now back to Karate in the Olympics, since there are two types of wrestling, freestyle and Greco-Roman wrestling, with each having their own sets of rules, to cater for the similarities, but most importantly the differences, for its respective competitors, then why should Olympic Karate sort to speak, not have just Kata and point scoring events, but why not its third event variation being full contact Karate?
That way everyone has a chance to participate, in terms of their level of ability, physical athleticism, conditioning, as well as their own personal level of comfort in whichever type of rules they would feel comfortable and safe to do so. The IOC needs to realise that people will participate in full contact sports, whether they deem it safe or unsafe. At the end of the day those who participate in such sports, do so out of their own free will and are highly trained, as well as physically and psychologically well prepared and conditioned to do so. These Olympic Committee morons are seriously out of touch and I can see why Brazilian jiu-jitsu governing federations, refuse to have the IOC get involved and become their overall governing and sanctioning organisation, given that they will become watered down sports, as has been the case with both Olympic style Judo and Olympic Style taekwondo. The irony of this Sensei Dan, is that the Olympics having its origins in Ancient Greece, in those ancient times wrestling and the ancient hybrid mixed martial art of Pankration or Pankrase, were part of the ancient Greek and original Olympic games, where in both sports at times participants could and did die.
We do not need that in modern times as you said, however also not a childish, watered down and ridiculous version of combat sports either. The Olympic Committee hides behind the excuse of making them children and family friendly events. Children these days play video games or watch films with far more graphically depicted violence, not to mention the inappropriate materials that they search, or share amongst themselves on the internet, through social media.
Now point scoring or light contact Karate is not so bad entirely, after all. I can see its merits and also validity in a martial artist's journey when it comes to refined and precise skill, as well as technique. Your fellow American Kenpo Karate, taekwondo and kickboxing exponent, former K-1 World Grand and Glory Kickboxing fighter and current Bellator MMA world kickboxing champion, as well former Karate world champion, Sensei Raymond Daniels said the following. Point scoring and light contact Karate made him work to fine tune his speed, footwork, timing, reflex reactions, accuracy and technique, delivery precision, as well as intelligent strategy against his opponents, given that he could not strike them full power, to end the fights in knockouts.
Once Sensei Raymond Daniels transitioned into full contact Karate as well as kickboxing and mixed martial, he said that his reflexes, technique, footwork, speed, evasion and reactions made him unpredictable, as well as hard to hit by his opponents, often making them miss and capitalise for a knockout counterattack in response. His only adjustment needed in full contact fighting, was doing lots of full contact conditioning drills, to get used to the physical demands punishment of full contact fighting. So overall everything is important and beneficial in martial arts.
As for Kata I disagree with limiting it to a number of styles. I do not need to be an expert in Chinese Kung Fu/Wushu, taekwondo, Tang Soo Do, Hapkido, Hwa Rang Do, Capoeira, etc to know what to look for in terms of the forms/katas at tournaments. You yourself Sensei Dan I am sure have been able to see for yourself, irrelevant of your background in American Kenpo, watching the awful forms/katas, of the unfortunate individuals attending McDojos. To put it simply our good friend and fellow bonafide martial artist, Sensei Ichi and two of his students, were invited to compete at a Shotokan Karate tournament. The three of them did extremely well with their katas/forms, against the other Shotokan Karate exponents, coming with two third place trophies in the kata division and one fourth place trophy! The point is that they competed at a Shotokan Karate tournament, using their Tang Soo Do (Pomse) katas/forms. So obviously the Shotokan Karate judges irrelevant of these three individuals using a Korean martial art's form in a Japanese martial art's forms/katas competition, was not a problem for the judging criteria.
At Kyokushin Karate tournaments though not a frequent occurrence, from time to time we have had Kung Fu stylists compete in our katas competitions and successfully doing. You and I would agree Sensei Dan, that if we were judging a kata/forms competition from say Hapkido or Kung Fu for example, that although we do not know those forms or katas from those styles, that we would be looking for criteria aspects such as power, speed, posture, balance, stances, timing, the right pauses in between each technique, instead of washing machine style, where one technique is mixed right into another, win without clear distinction of where one movement ends or begins from another one.
So again limiting even kata event at the Olympics, to participants of only a selected number of Karate styles, seems to me ludicrous. Now then there is ambiguity of katas themselves. While mostly the same not only amongst my fellow Kyokushin Karate practitioners, I have noticed that some Shotokan, Goju-Ryu or Wado Ryu Karate practitioners for example, even amongst themselves there is at times, slight different movements in some of the same katas that they practice.
So based on that logic or analogy, given Kyokushinkaikan finds its origins in both Shotokan and Goju-Ryu Karate, both of which form part of the styles recognised for the Olympic Karate Kata event. Would I then theoretically be able to argue my case, against the clowns of the Olympic Committee and tell them that in Kyokushin Karate, we have our katas from both Goju-Ryu and Shotokan Karate, emanate both styles, thus be allowed compete in the katas competitions? In my opinion any style of Karate should allowed enter kata event. Since as I said they should be judged on the performance factors, such adequate power, speed, posture, timing, balance and also credibility of the performer exhibiting the katas. Lastly I sincerely hope that Karate will become a permanent fixture at the Olympic Games, along with other combat sports such boxing, wrestling, judo and taekwondo, however with the added, alternative inclusion, as an added possibility full contact Karate. So glad that you decided to highlight Karate as an Olympic event, outstanding job as always Sensei Dan, Osu!🥋🇲🇽🇦🇺✌👍😊
I agree with most of this except the part about the Kata. I would not be a fair judge for any Shotokan or Tang Soo do Kata because while it might look good in my eyes...there are details I'm not aware of. Just like someone judging a Kenpo competition without knowing Kenpo, they would not know the small details that makes a Kata good or not. Certain beats, minuscule angles, and tiny details. I don't know if I agree with the specific choices in the Olympics, but I can understand why it would be limited.
This sounds both awesome and controversial at the same time!
Yay karate gets to be in the Olympics!
...But there are some interesting rules!
shame there's no full contact rules
Artur Soczawa-Stronczyk. They should really bring MMA or kickboxing in to the Olympics to allow more people from different backgrounds to compete. Because there’s no giant paychecks involved it shouldn’t be as homogeneous as the professional leagues
@@edrichlouw1790 that makes sense! It's a very good idea and very cool way of inclusion!
@@edrichlouw1790 The World Games event got Kickboxing with K-1 rules. I would definitely see it on the Olympics. Since they already have boxing.
I was wondering if you would be willing to make a video about Shorin Ryu Shorinkan. I recently started taking my sons to a class at the ymca and just wanted to learn more about it from other sources than the instructor.
Shorin Ryu is definitely one I'd like to do.
I can't believe it's not even 2020 yet, and it's already been decided to not have karate at the 2024 olympics. Now, I do not like competitive karate practices (I think both styles of kumite you mentioned are stupid, and competitive kata practices are empty to me), but the rules do support a sustainable sport version of the art, and it's completely Olympics appropriate. I have seen competition Judo throws that I felt were more dangerous.
As far as I know, punches to the head are not allow to touch. Punches to the body only marking points. No excessive force ( whatever does that mean), front kicks doesn't score points, front kicks to the face aren't allow...
You don't get score without touching the face
@@MindTrix123 in point kumite. You can get close to the face, but any blows that hit the face will count as a foul...
Hard hits aren't allowed but skin touch is necessary
WTF? What a pathetic joke
Is there any information on of the kata’s are restricted to just empty handed or are weapon katas included?
I will confirm this but I'm pretty sure it's empty hand only.
Only individual kata. Not team or weapons kata.
same
I know people would favor Kyokushin for the Olympics but Why not they put Kickboxing in the Olympics? Since boxing is already in there. I know in The World Games event they have Jujitsu and Kickboxing with K-1 rules.
I wouldn't mind that. I don't see why we can't have both point and knockdown, satisfy everyone.
I honestly believe that kickboxing and Muay Thai should be in the Olympics. What are your thoughts Sensei?
I definitely wouldn't mind seeing it :)
So Muay Thai can get watered down? Bad idea, Muay Thai is a combat art, not an Olympic one, it's bad enough Karate is going to the olympics!
Hello m.r Dan i personally study in kempo karate and am at orange belt level almost purple but I’ve been working hard practicing almost every day and have hit my own sort of road block and would like some advice to deal with my impatience.
Hi Heather! I hope I can help. What kind of road block are you hitting? What part of it are you becoming impatient with? I can understand this as Kenpo can be a lot of material and it's easy to want to get through it quickly but there is a lot to digest. What part of it do you feel is dragging?
I sometimes find when I am getting stuck or I feel like I'm getting stale, I try to see another perspective of it. If it's a Kata or technique, I try to read about it in outside sources, or ask someone new to show it to me, or watch others do it on RUclips and talk about it, or take it apart and try to find tiny details you didn't notice before. Stuff like that helps give me "AH HA!" moments when I discover something new, or realize there was part of the system I hadn't taken into account before. Even after 26 years I still get these "Ah ha!" moments all the time. Sometimes just hearing or watching another person describe or do it unlocks new information.
What part of it are you getting blocked up on. Is this Ed Parker American Kempo?
So when they have karate in Olympics will they still have Taekwondo and judo or will they alternate between them or does it depend on where the Olympics are held or is karate going to replace one of those, should any other martial art be included in the Olympics in the future
Karate will not replace TKD or Judo, they still have those events, however, Karate is currently ONLY in the 2020 Olympics. It has not been approved for any future events yet.
I think that the Olympic approach to Karate is a huge improvement over Olympic TKD. It seems that they've learned from TKD's weaknesses. For instance, the electronic scoring system and the ridiculous e-Hogu's of TKD will not be present in Karate. Also, finally having a forms competition in the Olympics is amazing, I never understood why that was left out of TKD. Personally, the light-contact point-sparring version of Kumite is what we practice in our Tang Soo Do-based school, and I believe it's the best form of sport combat, so I'm happy to see it and I wish that the Kukkiwon would learn from this. I was at one of the Team USA TKD qualifiers earlier this year, and I just couldn't believe how many teens and twenty-somethings were being carried out on stretchers and into the line of waiting ambulances. That's just unnecessary. All of that combination protective/e-scoring gear just restricts movement and changes the art, while doing little to actually protect someone in full contact.
For those who believe that all sport combat should be full contact, I'd wager that most of them have never been struck with a full contact side-kick. I have (by a new student who didn't have control of power or distance), and I had 2.5 months of nursing my broken ribs. That to me is where I draw the line at sport versus idiocy. If an MMA fighter wants to earn half a million bucks in the octagon, have fun with it, but that's not sport combat for the rest of us.
you'd wager wrong, just sayin'.
A great man, or at the very least his voice is great (ramsey dewy) said that you should never take a fight you’re not getting payed for. I fully agree with this. Personally I feel they should just allow punching to the face in WTF TKD. It completely changes the approach and would stop people doing stupid stuff that ends with them getting seriously hurt, like never having your hands up to protect thier head.
I don’t have anything against MMA fights, but yes I agree that light combat is still good. Also the people in Olympic Karate are good Martial Artist because they are light on their feet. I think that’s something MMA lost over time and I’m glad it’s coming back.
@@edrichlouw1790 Ya even in MMA training, they have to go somewhat easy on each other. Otherwise they'd be recovering from injury constantly and would never make it into the octagon. So the only time they let it all hang out is when the big money is in the house. Icy Mike says it better than I ever could: ruclips.net/video/1MbMT3Oa3gU/видео.html
What is the consensus of karate practitioners on karate in the Olympics? Bjj is really split in the topic. On one hand it is a great way to boost the art. However on the other it can water down the art. Focusing on the sport more than the art. Also it can face the issue of Judo with cumbersome rules to distinguish itself from other sports.
I think that BJJ would be a great Olympic sport honestly. So much skill and tactics to it I think it would be a great event and a very clear winner when you can submit your opponent.
Art of One Dojo I’d tend to agree but the IOC would want a fast pace/viewer friendly version of the sport. Especially if it was going to be televised. Karate point sparring is easy to watch because it makes sense to the average viewer. Because to the average viewer they can see the end result quickly. Someone getting punched or kicked. Kata also can be easy to watch because it would be close to a gymnastic floor routine. People can see crisp and athletic movements. Now of course I’m sure kumite must have some gnarly meta games what with using distance management and timing to execute techniques that us martial arts nerds would love to watch. But bjj suffers from not looking as pretty. Our ground work, while trying for submissions, often doesn’t lead to one because the other bjj player is keen to defend it. Now I absolutely love the meta games. Watching a great guard passer vs a great guard player is awesome but unfortunately most people would find it boring. This is why Greco was put on the chopping block by the IOC. Because the layperson didn’t tune in to watch it. Of course wrestling got overturned but the IOC wants sports that people can easily consume on tv that they can put sponsors on.
I love the videos by the way! This is a super cool platform to learn about martial arts and to interact with other martial artists.
Kind of joke the olympics merged the kumite weight classes and only 4 karate styles are allowed in the WKF. Kempo not being one of them.
Can you do make a video about Jeet Kuen Do
Definitely at some point.
Hey aod, will you ever do a video on fake martial artists, I ask because recently at my bjj school we had a fake black belt show up. I wanted to hear your own anecdotes and historical ones.
Hmmm I don't know...I don't think I really want to go that route only because I like to promote positive sides of the Martial arts and encourage others to learn. Maybe one day, and if I ever did this topic I wouldn't be trying to expose others, but maybe rather try to teach the tools to help recognize people like that. Too many channels do the Martial Arts Frauds videos, I don't want to just become another one of them.
@@ArtofOneDojo I agree with you on the recognizing part
Probably French Olympic Committee. They Have In Mind Savate Instead Traditional Karate. Exactly What Happened 1924 Summer Olympics In Paris France. The Way Is Going Because COVID-19 Pandemic. Thinking About Postponed Tokyo 2020 Olympics For Next Year 2021. 🤷♂️
Karate was used only for self defense not for competition. Mr.Miyagi said if karate used to protect life and not a plastic trophy it means something
Olympic event I’ll actually care about
Not all martial artists are athletes or train like one so it is hard fore to picture them in the Olympics. Still alot of Martial artists rely only on their training and kinda slack off on sparring, physical conditioning and endurance.
That is why we see alot of wanna be fighters and noodle arm warriors.
The weight classes seem really bad, does everyone in karate have to be a lightweight? Imagine an 80kg male fighter going up against someone who is 100kg, massive difference that you could only see in kyokushin! Luckily it's point fighting, which I don't support because it's presenting a fake kumite to the public, but atleast it's showing karate to the public.
Age limit for participation?
Yes, this is from the Tokyo Olympics Requirement Page:
- Be born on or before 8 May 2004 for the Kata events and on or before 8 May 2002 for the Kumite
events.
You can find more info here: www.wkf.net/pdf/final-tokyo2020-qualificationsystem-karate.pdf
"It's too dangerous"....so is boxing point system in the Olympics? C'mon.
Do you have Art of one dojo underbritches?
That is specific knowledge that has to be earned ;)
Can you do a video on kalaripayattu plz.😇
Yes, it is an art I am looking at :)
Where are you guys located at? I would love to visit your school Sensei.
I don't have a school myself. I taught part time for a local Kenpo school for their children's classes until just recently (needed to devote more time to my actual job of video production, my own training, and of course this channel).
I get together with fellow local Kenpo friends and we spar and workout together, as well as I'm taking regular classes in JuJutsu/Judo at a school in Boca Raton, Florida.
Art of One Dojo That’s great Sensei. It is important to know BOTH stand up and ground fighting. You have to be well rounded.
Should Sumo or other martial arts be in the Olympics
They are trying to get Sumo in. It's not easy to get an art to become an olympic sport but I would personally like to see more ofthem.
Really sucks that Wushu isn't in the current Olympics considering how different it is and it's scale.
Happy for karate having got in even though at first I felt it was pointless with the fact that Taekwondo is in it, though thats the 'only kicks' WT version right? So I can accept karate's addition.
I think more arts should be represented, especially Wushu I agree!!! Wushu is AWESOME to watch and every bit as a skill as figure skating or gymastics.
Its generally controlled contact. U cant score without contact
And that's the trouble with point kumite in my opinion, it's why I went to Kyokushin!
@@dakentaijutsu2010 ur looking at it too shallowly. Its sport. Imagine if they did full contact knockdown style for the Olympics? Do u know how many matches those ppl have to have to get to the finals? Most competitors would have serious damage before they even made it that far. Its not healthy.
@@sliderx1897 that's how wrestling and boxing do...
@@sliderx1897 and what about Boxing? It's in the olympics, and I'm sure they don't pull their punches
@@sliderx1897 neither is Boxing, and yet that's in the olympics!
You've got the warnings wrong
What is wrong about them?
"Surprisingly however, except for a handful of arts, the martial arts have largely been missing from the Olympic games. Namely Karate and Kung Fu...." Love the videos, but this sentence and idea seems conflicted to me. I don't mean to split hairs, but I felt I should make a note. Boxing, Greco-roman and freestyle Wrestling, Judo, Taekwondo and fencing are only a handful? Karate and Kung Fu make up the balance? I might have noted that some of the most popular martial arts have been missing. Keep up the great work, best wishes!
You do bring up a good point, but to answer your question, yes Judo, TKD, Boxing, Fencing, Freestyle and Greco-Roman Wrestling, and Fencing are a handful when you consider they are 6 out of hundreds of different arts. Karate and Kung Fu may not make up the rest...but they are the highest profile and a very significant chunk of the arts out there. Many styles of Karate and hundreds of styles in the Chinese arts. That is why I made that statement.
But I do agree there is a LOT missing. I would love to see Muay Thai represented, or BJJ or other JuJutsu styles, and even Kalaripayattu would be great to see in a forms and weapons division.
I just wanted to say that Moses T Collier Jr brings up a good point, it got me thinking what about Escrime (Philippine Fighting Art), I think that would be a good addition to the Olympics. I also think Kendo (or other Japanese Sword arts) would be an awesome addition! If anybody has any thoughts on this, I'd like to hear them!
That’s awesome, I think once they allow a sport they shouldn’t take it out unless it’s absolutely necessary, why won’t it be allowed in France 2024, will they have team competition, breaking, weapons, so it’s more like continuous sparring than point sparring, so any karate styles can compete in sparring but not in forms, i think they could allow any styles to do any kata, just like they do in open martial arts competition where any martial arts can compete together (Karate, TKD, Kungfu, Kajukenbo, Tukong, Tang Soo do, kickboxing, Hwa Rang Do and so on) they focus more on the power, flexibility, agility, confidence, skills, speed and since the basics are similar in the arts like the kicks punches and blocks then they judge on is the punch powerful, is it a good kick, is it a proper block, does it look like it could work, they need to include kickboxing or Capoeira
I bet it's because the country's martial art is SAVATE...
Currently no team compeitions in terms of group forms, no breaking, or weapons as far as I understand. Just solo point sparring and single kata competitions.
Yeah but hasn’t the Olympics been in other countries that had their own martial arts or sport that wasn’t Taekwondo or Judo or maybe that country didn’t have a basketball team or track team and they still competed in the other sports but I don’t think they didn’t allow judo or taekwondo or skiing just cause they didn’t have that as their main sport or didn’t have competitors for that event
So if the Olympics ever go to Thai Land would they not allow Taekwondo or karate cause their sport is kickboxing
I study TKD, so I'm not as familiar with Karate as most of you. Lately, I've been seeing a lot of videos like this one: ruclips.net/video/Ei3VYp1kqdI/видео.html . The people who post them claim that this is what the 2020 games are going to look like. Please tell me that's not true.
I seriously doubt it will be like that. TKD isn't like this in the Olympics. This seems odd but most WKF fights don't have NO HITS. This video is ridiculous though.
You're a RUclips McDojo
That doesn't even make sense.
@@ArtofOneDojo just messing with you,. You have a great channel bud.
Well fine, then you can have the Happy meal...but I'm keeping the toy!!!
French are judo
The Olympic Games is a danger for Karate as a martial art. If karate wants to be on the Olympic, it must be point-based, otherwise it becomes dangerous. Now, for a contact sport, karate will be water downed and that is why, karate will become a sport and cease to be a martial art. The only part of karate that may be used for Olympic is kata and that is because in kata, the spirit of karate remains. Kata is very subjective but as the video mention, there are aspects that can be evaluated. It is impossible to have all styles included but regardless of your style, the core of most of katas is the same so learning a variation is totally possible.
I study ufc, much better that karati
Oh Karati is terrible. Karate is MUCH better!
What the hell is Karati? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Boycott this NonSense. Boycott the garbage wkf