KTM 1090 1190 1290 Rottweiler SAS Stage 3 Delete | Back in the Garage
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2022
- In this video, I show you how to delete the Secondary Air System (SAS) on a KTM 1090 1190 or 1290 Adventure Bike. We use the Rottweiler SAS Stage 3 Delete kit in this video (linked below). The SAS delete will reduce the weight of the bike by 2.5 lbs, free up storage space for tools and clean up engine space, specifically making it easier to access the front cylinder.
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Mario, I just finished the stage 3 delete, Rotwiller air box replacement and the fuel filter rebuild on my 2016 Super Adventure. The bike fired up first time and is running fine. I absolutely could not have done the work without your videos!!! Thanks so much for posting them.
Glad the videos helped! Enjoy all the new power!
Thanks so much for the great videos! The instruction links on the Rottweiler site were down this weekend, so you saved my bacon. Much better than printed instructions anyway - very complete and put together in a logical manner.
Great install vid… will being doing both Stage 3 intake and SAS delete kits on my bike this weekend… this vid was very helpful
How did it turn out? What are the benefits?
Great job, I enjoy your vids and content!
Love seeing you pumping videos out again!
Thanks man! Can't promise 2 week every week but think I have something like 7 more already scheduled, 4 shot, and another 3 or 4 to get shot over the coming weeks; not counting all the BITG videos I'll be shooting soon.
must have been fun getting the hoses connected to the throttle bods...
The rear throttle body is a bit tougher as you can't see as well but honestly, it was a whole lot easier than it looks.
Hi any ideas, my gear indicator light has gone, and big cuts out with kick stand down, will only start with clutch in 1050 adventure 2016.....thanks
I really need to do this to my bike. The stock air box is a pain and I really want that extra storage🤙
Takes some time but if you're getting into it to do the plugs of valve checks, won't add a lot of time.
Let's make sure we give this video tons of likes so we can see the 1290R back in the garage with more updates!! 😂 Always willing to do the tough job of giving you plenty of BITG content 😂
OMG I'm doing the stage 3 install on my 2016 Super Adventure. Just let me say that the nipple on the front cylendar throttle body is IMPOSSIBLE to get to. I can barely see it much less get the new hose on it. Back to the frustration again this morning. 🤣
Please help me locate my ignition switch line , I’m trying to switch it to be able to use a key or fix the issue with it keeps losing connection to the fob can someone please describe it to me or something I’m missing I’ve been at this for weeks
You make it look easy ! Lol
I have a question for you and Brian, I am thinking of adding a skid plate on my 18 1290 SAR any brand suggestions?
I’ve really enjoyed the Black Dog Cycle Works. I like that it relocated the kick stand outside the side of the engine. With that though,
it added an additional
Complexity for install. I personally like the look and the coverage it has. Mario probably has a different opinion based on his experience.
KTM PP aluminum skid plate. The BDCW is overkill and the kick stand relocation is a solution to a problem for 99% of people doesn’t exist…but will now have a problem because the kick stand kill switch is disabled with the relocation.
I have a 2016 Super Adventure just like yours. How similar to this video is the SAS removal process on the T model bike to the one shown in the video? I'd really like to do the Stage 3 mod, but just want all the info I can get before diving in. Thanks!
Same
Just picked up a 2015 1190 with only 700 miles on it.... looking to the stage 3 intake system and the SAS Stage 3 delete in the near future.
Whats your option on the stock air box setup? Should i go ahead and swap it out right away or is it decent enough for dusty off road conditions ?
The stock air filter works fine but if you're going to be riding in dusty conditions it needs to be checked/changed more often than the recommended interval.
@@2WR last question… lol
Have you deleted the cat.
Seen a video where a guy takes the stock system off, cuts a square, scrapes out the honeycomb and welds it closed.
Says it also reduced heat coming off the pipes.
What are your thoughts on that?
Can you do a video on how to change rhe rear signal light. Thanks
Perhaps at some point but it's a pretty easy job. Remove the small screw in the front corner of the signal housing, carefully remove the turn signal glass (tab opposite the screw), remove old bulb, press in new bulb while turning clockwise, reassemble.
Hey Mario. About to do this and wondering if I should go full hog and do the Rottweiler intake while I’m in there. Still happy with it after all these miles? Not too loud?
Many years later, I'm still happy with it on my bike. Actually have the Rottweiler intakes on my 1290, 990 and now 890.
@@2WR
Thanks, guess I’ll just go for it. I was also considering one for my 990 too. Just didn’t know if I needed to remap since I loaded the EU tune on the 990 to smooth out fueling.
Love watching your „back in the garage today“ videos even though I have no intention to install this kit any time soon 😉 do you know if this will have any impact on the emissions? My understanding is that this just burns excess fuel from the vent lines. The air filter upgrade and a different fuel would have an impact on emissions I would think. We have to her our bikes checked for emissions every 2 years in Germany which makes such modifications a bit risky as we the bike may no longer pass the test. Somehow I got way with it on a 2006 Harley with open air filter and modified fuel map but i am not sure this would work with modern bikes. Thank you- Oliver
Oliver, yes they do have an impact on the emissions. The SAS along with the evap canister (and arguable the O2 sensors) make up the entire emissions system on the bike. "Technically" this is only legal in the US for competition and off-road purposes but in most (if not all) jurisdictions motorcycles are exempt from annual emissions testing. The new airbox will allow the bike to intake more air which can push more fuel (aka more power) while the fuel dongles we installed override the ECU to provide a richer air/fuel mixture. I can't say for sure if it these modifications would lead to a failure of the emissions test in your country but I do know it will emit more emissions that the stock setup.
@@2WR Thank you for the quick reply 😎 i wished they didn’t test the bikes here either - would make life a lot easier 😂 keep up the great videos!
I have watched probably all your back in the garage videos and i thank you for showing all the details they are very helpfull! I have a 2017 SAR and sometimes it shows "Air temp failure " message on the screen but then it goes away. I think there is a short or the sensor is bad but is there a way you can show us where the sensor is and how to get to it? Thanks so much and yake care!
It’s 30 seconds into this video.
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@@2WR does "air temp failure " mean its the sensor that you show there on the air box? I think mine is more the outside air temperature the one that reads the weather because when i move the handlebar to the left it pops up do you know how to replace that sensor? I think is somewhere behind the head lamp but i am not sure. Thanks for answering so quick though you're the best!
great video, thank you for sharing !
Quick question, why do you need to run hoses from the throttle bodies ? instead of just some block of nipples ?
You don’t. They’re there to make it easy to do a throttle body sync in the future.
@@2WR thanks
So do I need an appointment to have you do this to my bike or can I just show up anytime. Probably better not to answer that or you may wake up one morning with a driveway full of bikes waiting to get worked on.
I mean...I'm not opposed to it.
I have a 2015 rc8r and I just installed stage 2 kit and I'm stuck on 1 part. There was a line on left side of tank that ran to ground and on right side there's a line from gas tank to canister. What do I do with that line ?
Both now vent to atmosphere assuming you deleted the canister
I had secondary air valve fault on 1190 .Is it same process?
To get to the system, yes.
For such tuning is not necessary to buy expensive Rottweiler kit.
My mechanic did the same SAS tuning by himself. He cut 2 plates from 2mm flat aluminium sheet (like these black plates), took off original tubes and to avoid any errors, without dongle connection, he just simply kept solenoid connected to the wiring (now it technically works, but does nothing, because no tubes are connected to it).
True. You can also buy inexpensive block off plates from eBay. It's also possible to make your own dongles and save even more money. That said, I don't understand keeping the solenoid connected especially if you're talking about the one over the front cylinder as it's just something else to work around or move out of the way when you need to work on things.
Would be interested to know how much you paid the mechanic for the work
I live in Moldova, and here working hour cost much cheaper than in US. Valves check + Oil change + Tires change + SAS removal cost to me about 125 $.
We kept solenoid due to we had no such connector to put resistor inside. I think it will not add some difficult to access front cylinder, because it is connected using only soft wires, but not hard tubes. For me it is not critical because he will be working on maintain of my Super Adventure, but not me;)
@@2WR also getting rid of the solenoid helps with airflow
Wonder if this is same for 2022 SAS
Considering it’s basically the same since the 990 debuted, I doubt it will be much different.
What kind of MPG are you getting with this kit installed?
Varies greatly depending on the type of riding.
@@2WR What’s a good midpipe for the cat-delete? I did see the arrow but expensive just for a mid pipe
Arrow…
is it the same thing for gen3??
Buddy just picked up a 2022 R yesterday but I don’t know. I’d check Rottweiler’s website or reach out to them.
Hello, I have uninstalled SAS. can I save the Lambda Sensor in place? or should it also be removed after SAS is removed? I just don’t have anything to turn off Lambda senses, so I wanted to know if it’s possible to save it in place.