Your assessment is brilliant as always! My son and i fish mainly with Shimano rods and find their price here in South Africa very competative and value for money. I know there are many good rods out there but i really love the Shimano.
Great video. Thanks.. Why aren't these rods in 2 piece? I don't have a boat and fish from the bank. I have a Explorer with a grandson in a car seat coming along. Hard to carry a 1 piece.
Awesome video Lots of great information to your channel I love watching it. I just wanted to let you know that you forgot to mention the forward tilted Guides on the new rod you mentioned the change in color but did not mention that the new guides are tilted forward which is a new tangle free system.
7:27 carbon tape (x-wrap) thinner? It could be thinner and wider density compare to your own old model which is tighter and thicker since the power is different. Your new Zodias is ML which is more flex than your previous one with harder power M and H. 10:55 I can see another cosmetic addition i/e a hook keeper on butt section area just below the Eva grip Other points I'm agree with your opinion.
Should I get the 2020 excence DC or the 2021 scorpion DC? They are both around 300 dollars and I can’t decide. I have a metanium DC and I feel that maybe I shouldn’t get the scorpion dc because it might be too similar.
Although I do love my gen 2 it's my first rod over the $200 I thought I would be more sensitive I'm from pa so I throw a ned rig Neko rig alot for smallmouth and I wanted a good rod so I bought it but I have noticed that the sensitivity ain't quite there like I thought it would
Was about to buy one from sportsman’s. Till the employee pulled one from the side that was broken and we both inspected where it broke and confirmed it broke on a fish. I then asked him what the customer bought after and he pointed at the rod I was buying a phoenix feather lol. Safe to say I don’t think I’ll be buying it and if I do it’s ONLY in 6’10 since it’s a bit stiffer
Spent over double the price of this rod on importing a 168ml poison glorious about a year later stumbled upon a zodias in a local tackle shop picked it up and to my surprise i didnt notice a huge difference even being two tiers ahead of the zodias i tried to find a list of the different features between the higher end rods like zodias, adrena, poison glorious and ultima and found it to be a little confusing... i love shimano rods though
The length of the handles depends on the length of the spinning rod. This dependence in both old and new Zodias, Exprides, Adren ... Длина рукоятей зависит от длины спиннинга. Эта зависимость как у старых, так и у новых Зодиасов, Экспрайдов, Адрен ...
I'm looking at getting a zodias spinning rod on black Friday. I'm a bank fisherman and I throw ned rigs and drop shots from 1/8oz to 3/8 oz. What rod would you recommend the 7ft medium light or the 7ft 6inch medium. I'm looking for long casting and sensitive tip. Thanks
I have only one of these but I still think my St Croix Legends Bass Tournament is a little better, and my 10 year old Shimano Cumara are still my favorite.
Are these rods better than the dobyns rods they have bfs rods too 1/16 - 5/16 7’0” cork handle that’s what I like about a rod $200 for a rubber handle I don’t think so
So is anyone else having issues with these rods breaking??? I’m on my third one that just broke on me. The first one broke at the tip at that time my boy was working at BP so took it back. The second time I just got it back from warranty exchange two months ago or less. Fished with it around 3 times and I baby the damn thing. It broke a quarter of the way from the top while casting. This last time it broke in half while casting. All I use it for is throwing dead shrimp on a 1/16 jig head. It’s the 7’ MH so it should be more than enough rod for that. They travel with rod warrior neoprene covers and neoprene reel covers. All rods ride up in the cab of my truck so no slapping around in bed of truck. I have custom rods by fish stix, J&H and H&H that have never broke once. They treated great as well however not babied like this Zodias. I bought it for the fact that it looked great paired with the vanford. Which by the way is basically a brand new reel cause it spends more time sitting on the sidelines. This is a sad rod!!!
I've got the new Zodias for $200 and a Megabass for $500. Almost identical in length but the Megabass has a lure rating of 1/4-1.25oz whereas the Zodias has 1/4-3/4oz I believe. Don't have the rods on hand. Honestly after fishing the Zodias I'm kicking myself for spending $500 on the Megabass. Neither is the greatest rod I've ever used but I'd take the Zodias over the Megabass Destroyer P5 all day.
Wow that sucks about the Megabass. I can say the same thing about my 1st Gen Poison Glorious that I imported at great cost, only to be severely underwhelmed by it
@@THEREELTEST that's why I like watching these reviews. You've helped me settle on an Aldebaran for my 1st bfs reel now I just need to find a rod for that.
Loved the old version. New version the butt of the rod is to light and makes it Feel awkward overall when casting and using in general. the original version with a split grip feels 10x better imo and better balanced.
So the new ones feel more tip heavy? I'm obsessed with rod balance and was considering trying the new Zodias' but I remember trying the Zodias and Expride in tackle shops a few years back and both felt tip heavy even with the regular grips. I've found Daiwa and Dobyns rods to be much better balanced, especially Dobyns. Really want the Zodias 7'2" medium moderate fast though
@@Jon-nz3dm I really like the Expride B I’m super picky on rod balance myself. I use the 7’2” MH Expride B paired with a Diawa Zillion for frogging for snakehead. Super light and balanced imo.
@@rainzer0 fair enough if you’re fishing heavy for big fish. But what about finesse fishermen? What’s the point of a 10” long handle that just fouls with your forearm on the cast?
@@vin18m rod handles has never gotten in my way when I cast unless I am wearing a heavy jacket or raincoat with big loose sleeves. They do make short postal grip style grips and handles. I'm sure there's a small market for short handles but Shimano is a big company geared for the majority.
@@rainzer0 completely agree, it’s just so hard to find a short handled baitcaster off the shelf these days. I ended up going custom built just so I could get what I wanted. Shimano also cater to the bigger US market, and I know you guys like the longer handles.
@@vin18m don't get me wrong. One of my custom rod was literally 1" too long and it drives me insane sometimes. I might just saw 1" off the butt. The handle length should be different depending on the action/power and length of the rod. Light finesse should be short I agree with that. 10" on 8ft heavy/xfast is not enough for example.
Appreciate the new content. You have been using the same annoying (to me) back ground music for years! Do you have any plans to eliminate the music. Listening to you talk over it has become unbearable. 😵💫
I bought 2, paired with my DC reels, wow what a difference , of course my wife found out and I have to listen to that
No you won’t a giveaway 😉 😂😂
Meanwhile they buy a 2,500 purse and use it a couple times...our fishing gear lasts a lifetime.
@@harrydick3300 I hear you! Man will never win. But I can’t hear her bitching on the lake, thank god spring is here
I feel you 😅
Your assessment is brilliant as always! My son and i fish mainly with Shimano rods and find their price here in South Africa very competative and value for money. I know there are many good rods out there but i really love the Shimano.
Thanks brother!
Just got the new model and I'm super satisfied with it!
The second generation Shimano Zodias is one of my favorites right now. Good luck!
These rods are super slick and have an amazing styling and finish
I just bought a Poison Adrena 7’3” and I’m completely in love! Pretty much selling my MegaBass rods to obtain the full lineup of the Poison Adrena
megabass isn't about the fishing, that's about the design! :)
they just need to expand the line up here
@@Alex6636 there just super technique specific. There new P5 MegaBass lineup is unreal but not worth the $500 price tag by any means.
Great video. Thanks.. Why aren't these rods in 2 piece? I don't have a boat and fish from the bank. I have a Explorer with a grandson in a car seat coming along. Hard to carry a 1 piece.
I bought the 7'5" MH. It's a good rod. If you can afford it, step up to the Expride line. Best rods for the money.
I got the 7’5” MH paired with new Scorpion DC . Perfect match!!!! I love it!!!
Awesome video
Lots of great information to your channel I love watching it.
I just wanted to let you know that you forgot to mention the forward tilted Guides on the new rod you mentioned the change in color but did not mention that the new guides are tilted forward which is a new tangle free system.
good afternoon, please tell me how do you think shimano zodias 270ml-2 cope with wobblers or jerkbait in size 110??
7:27 carbon tape (x-wrap) thinner? It could be thinner and wider density compare to your own old model which is tighter and thicker since the power is different. Your new Zodias is ML which is more flex than your previous one with harder power M and H.
10:55 I can see another cosmetic addition i/e a hook keeper on butt section area just below the Eva grip
Other points I'm agree with your opinion.
the width of the tape itself looks a hair thinner on the new one
Well, it's been 2 years. What are your general thoughts on it? Thank you
Should I get the 2020 excence DC or the 2021 scorpion DC? They are both around 300 dollars and I can’t decide. I have a metanium DC and I feel that maybe I shouldn’t get the scorpion dc because it might be too similar.
My ancient shimano Cumara is the best. Haven't found any other rod that is better when it comes to feel and sensitivity.
Although I do love my gen 2 it's my first rod over the $200 I thought I would be more sensitive I'm from pa so I throw a ned rig Neko rig alot for smallmouth and I wanted a good rod so I bought it but I have noticed that the sensitivity ain't quite there like I thought it would
Just bought the 7.2 medium on sale for 119.00 hope it performs as goods it looks.
Was about to buy one from sportsman’s. Till the employee pulled one from the side that was broken and we both inspected where it broke and confirmed it broke on a fish. I then asked him what the customer bought after and he pointed at the rod I was buying a phoenix feather lol. Safe to say I don’t think I’ll be buying it and if I do it’s ONLY in 6’10 since it’s a bit stiffer
You forgot the bait keeper.
@@andersriksson100 Right behind the grip bro.
There is a hook keeper on the new one just below the grip. You can see it in the vid at the 10:00 mark
I thought it calls "hook keeper" :)
yeah I noticed it as I was editing the video lol
The best addition to the rod wasn’t even mentioned. I love my Expride but it’s annoying not having a hook keeper on a $250 rod
Are these durable for bank fishing? I've heard that they have a very breakable tip.
these break like twigs, beware… I babied this rod and it snapped while jerking a finesse lure. People overrate this rod egregiously
Okay I just brought scorpion 🦂 mgl I need to pair it with a all purpose rod
Spent over double the price of this rod on importing a 168ml poison glorious about a year later stumbled upon a zodias in a local tackle shop picked it up and to my surprise i didnt notice a huge difference even being two tiers ahead of the zodias i tried to find a list of the different features between the higher end rods like zodias, adrena, poison glorious and ultima and found it to be a little confusing... i love shimano rods though
I had both new and old Zodiases. There are also Adrenas. The differences are very subtle, but they are there.
my 1st gen Poison Glorious Vanquish that costed over $500 to import didnt feel as sensitive as my $150 ish Jackal BPMs
Bass Pro Shops has a new baitcaster definitely the best-looking under $100
The length of the handles depends on the length of the spinning rod. This dependence in both old and new Zodias, Exprides, Adren ...
Длина рукоятей зависит от длины спиннинга. Эта зависимость как у старых, так и у новых Зодиасов, Экспрайдов, Адрен ...
Really good value
I'm looking at getting a zodias spinning rod on black Friday. I'm a bank fisherman and I throw ned rigs and drop shots from 1/8oz to 3/8 oz. What rod would you recommend the 7ft medium light or the 7ft 6inch medium. I'm looking for long casting and sensitive tip. Thanks
Hows this compare to the poison adrena?
I have only one of these but I still think my St Croix Legends Bass Tournament is a little better, and my 10 year old Shimano Cumara are still my favorite.
Would u put it up against the old 18 outfitters suppersor iv got see this to see how good the rod really is
I have both generation…the second generation was better in my opinion. Very sensitive n got the best control
Thats good to hear, Maybe they did use a newer better blank
If you are going to do a rod review would you please weigh the rods
I usually do but the scale I use for that is in storage
Any on the water results yet ?
Are these rods better than the dobyns rods they have bfs rods too 1/16 - 5/16 7’0” cork handle that’s what I like about a rod $200 for a rubber handle I don’t think so
Ive never had a dobyns
Have this rod in 7'2 medium fun as a zoom super fluke rod
Would you be so kind to review the 2021 daiwa blazon rod.
Waiting for my 7.6 7-21 for zander from ali...
I am interested ❤
Any updates?
Have you done a review on the SHIMANO 18 ANTARES DC MD XG? You do great work. Thanks.
no but 1rod did
Thanks. Keep up the good work
So is anyone else having issues with these rods breaking??? I’m on my third one that just broke on me. The first one broke at the tip at that time my boy was working at BP so took it back. The second time I just got it back from warranty exchange two months ago or less. Fished with it around 3 times and I baby the damn thing. It broke a quarter of the way from the top while casting. This last time it broke in half while casting. All I use it for is throwing dead shrimp on a 1/16 jig head. It’s the 7’ MH so it should be more than enough rod for that.
They travel with rod warrior neoprene covers and neoprene reel covers. All rods ride up in the cab of my truck so no slapping around in bed of truck. I have custom rods by fish stix, J&H and H&H that have never broke once. They treated great as well however not babied like this Zodias.
I bought it for the fact that it looked great paired with the vanford. Which by the way is basically a brand new reel cause it spends more time sitting on the sidelines. This is a sad rod!!!
I've got the new Zodias for $200 and a Megabass for $500. Almost identical in length but the Megabass has a lure rating of 1/4-1.25oz whereas the Zodias has 1/4-3/4oz I believe. Don't have the rods on hand. Honestly after fishing the Zodias I'm kicking myself for spending $500 on the Megabass. Neither is the greatest rod I've ever used but I'd take the Zodias over the Megabass Destroyer P5 all day.
Wow that sucks about the Megabass. I can say the same thing about my 1st Gen Poison Glorious that I imported at great cost, only to be severely underwhelmed by it
@@THEREELTEST that's why I like watching these reviews. You've helped me settle on an Aldebaran for my 1st bfs reel now I just need to find a rod for that.
Make an review of the St.Croix Victory plss
if they send me one
@@THEREELTEST LMAO 🤣
Cant change the music that’s our jam!
Don’t waste your money on that rod. For that rod you’re just paying for warranty. Overall that rod is trash
Loved the old version. New version the butt of the rod is to light and makes it Feel awkward overall when casting and using in general. the original version with a split grip feels 10x better imo and better balanced.
So the new ones feel more tip heavy? I'm obsessed with rod balance and was considering trying the new Zodias' but I remember trying the Zodias and Expride in tackle shops a few years back and both felt tip heavy even with the regular grips. I've found Daiwa and Dobyns rods to be much better balanced, especially Dobyns. Really want the Zodias 7'2" medium moderate fast though
@@Jon-nz3dm I really like the Expride B I’m super picky on rod balance myself. I use the 7’2” MH Expride B paired with a Diawa Zillion for frogging for snakehead. Super light and balanced imo.
@@zmrcfishingvideos Really wish they made the 7'2 medium moderate fast in Expride line of rods. The search continues
No rod weights !
I still can’t understand why we need long split grips on a baitcaster when you only use 4-6” of the handle.
When you load up on a bait to cast it's nice to have some leverage. And also for fighting big fish.
@@rainzer0 fair enough if you’re fishing heavy for big fish. But what about finesse fishermen? What’s the point of a 10” long handle that just fouls with your forearm on the cast?
@@vin18m rod handles has never gotten in my way when I cast unless I am wearing a heavy jacket or raincoat with big loose sleeves.
They do make short postal grip style grips and handles. I'm sure there's a small market for short handles but Shimano is a big company geared for the majority.
@@rainzer0 completely agree, it’s just so hard to find a short handled baitcaster off the shelf these days. I ended up going custom built just so I could get what I wanted. Shimano also cater to the bigger US market, and I know you guys like the longer handles.
@@vin18m don't get me wrong. One of my custom rod was literally 1" too long and it drives me insane sometimes. I might just saw 1" off the butt. The handle length should be different depending on the action/power and length of the rod. Light finesse should be short I agree with that. 10" on 8ft heavy/xfast is not enough for example.
Wow I like Zodias dream rod no afford
Appreciate the new content. You have been using the same annoying (to me) back ground music for years! Do you have any plans to eliminate the music. Listening to you talk over it has become unbearable. 😵💫
I plan on raising the volume of the music
@@THEREELTEST 😂😂😂😂🤘🏼🤙🏼
Seems suit to pair with your clamber hyper micro.. Haha
My 1st gen ml is more sensitive than 2nd gen
I have 6 of other original series
IMO, the Zodias are overrated. I miss the older Shimano Crucials and Cumaras
Those Cumaras were the best rods. Luckily I still have them. My favorite rods to this day.
I hear a ton about both of those old models, still hunt for them in old local shops...
I’ve managed to pick up 2 gen. 1 Shimano crucials on eBay over the past few years. Incredible rods.
у меня одного катушка хлябает при твиче? )) 1610м2
Наверно. У меня на новом 1610М-2, как и на 166ML-2, а также старом 166М-2 катушки сидят как влитые.
OLD VERSION IS BETTER
how so, genuinely curious
The forms are the same, but the new ones are more pleasant to use.
@@staryi5119 yes I own the new version too and would agree, just don't see a reason why someone would think the old ones are better
Lost me at the intro.
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