Bottling from kegs without a beergun
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2018
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2 Methods for bottling off the keg without a beergun or anything else expensive!
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One of the most useful videos! The picnic idea with a tube is genius! After I went on kegging, I was thinking about bringing a beer to a friends or just a picnics. Your solution is great.
Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video. I’ll be trying this out. 😊
Couple of great tips thanks for sharing.
Very useful, thanks Dude. I'm going to have to try this to bring along some kegged beer to the homebrew club, as I have nothing bottled at all at the moment.
Great how to vid mate , thanks Ivan
Bloody great stuff Richard pal. Some useful tips there. Really like the idea of the 2nd one 👍
cheers pal, its a really handy bit of kit and only a few quid too
Cracking how to video cheers for the vid
Purging each bottle..that's boss!
I might be over thinking this, but you should probably keep purging the bottle with CO2 while you remove your hose + tap setup. That hose takes up a fair volume of the bottle. Withdrawing it will force air in unless there is positive pressure from inside (by keeping the tap on).
Great video
Nice video.. pretty simple process.
Nice bit of info..... fortunately I have the last straw
Cheers dude
Cheap and easy! I have done it straight from the keg tap too mate with a silicone tube attached but it was too fiddly so I ended up getting the blichmann beergun. £99 from brewuk was cheapest I could find. Been so busy this summer though that I have been entirely unable to even give it a first try! I cloned Dino's Velvet Merlin last week and that will probably go into the keg in the next 10 days. Once carbed up I should have around 12 litres in a second keg that I intend on bottling. Then I can finally start returning some beer mails. We went through 5 corny kegs this holiday so the keezer is dry. Perfects opportunity to give it a thorough clean!!!
Cheers Chris yeah I know the feeling I've been struggling to keep the kegs filled for months!
That`s one way to do it. Cheers
Clever! 🍺
If you shorten the plastic pipe from the party tap to 2 inches then clip in a 10 inch long 9mm brass tube with a bung inserted halfway up you've got a counter pressure filler which is exactly what I use and I prime with a Soda stream machine. It works very well even on very carbonated beer
cheers for the tip I will have to try that
I've not got a corny keg,but the way I thought of doing it for me was buying a bottling wand with the tap on,attach it to a pressure barrel full of c02,purge my bottles that way then have a barrel full of beer get some sort of tubing on the tap and then fill it and seal it that way,I wanna give it a go.
I'm hopeful that'd work but I guess it just be an experiment to try and see what happens really.
A ss racking cane fits perfectly into a picnic tap, cut it down and use a bottle sized stopper on it to counter pressure fill. Just give the bottle a little blast of co2 before filling.
I wouldn't mind trying this method,but only have a pressure barrel,great tutorial though.
Cheers
Try a MFL 3/16 or 8mm plastic on/off tap just after your balllock disconect beer line, that way you can increase your PSI pressure if you want more bubbles in your lager and control the flow rate to the tap end with less foaming and they only cost $2 been thinking of trying it myself.
I have questions.
When you applied 2-3 psi on the gas tank, did your keg have any pressure in it?
On the other word, Did you release gas pressure in your keg before pushing 2-3 psi into your keg to start filling?
I use your first method, except I use a cheap Soda Stream machine with a piece of hosing to purge the bottles. I get most of the oxygen out I guess, but I never bottle for long storing anyway.
What's your party tap line consist of? Thin EVA tubing to a DuoTight reducer that connects it to... A 1/4in tube with a picnic tap?
When I've tried it I did pretty much the same as this and got the bottle as full as possible rather than purge and did the 'cap on foam' thing. I didn't have a bloody clue what that meant for ages.
Forums say freeze the bottles and wet them inside to avoid the froth but I wasn't faffed at the time.
Cheers.
yes I was going to mention chilling bottles etc but like you find that a bit too much of a faff!
I tried the carb cap method when bottling a NEIPA the other day after watching your video, very helpful! Although I'm now wondering if I should have reattached the gas line to the carb cap to give it another burst of CO2 before swapping over for the plastic bottle lid? Due to foam I ended up with more headspace than I would usually like and I'm super paranoid about oxygen.
yes this is something I didn't consider at the time when making the video but the headspace left when you remove the cap will inevitably pull some air and oxygen back in to the bottle. You could try and squirt some c02 in but not sure how well that will work. At the moment I try to slightly overfill to reduce headspace and cap over foam, sometimes I squeeze the bottle slightly to bring the foam up to the top of the bottle before capping which seems to work ok
What pressure did you set the Co2 at with the carbonation cap? Just normal serving pressure? 2 psi like you did with the party tap?
Same as serving usually but if its a particularly lively beer bumping up the pressure a bit can help to suppress the fobbing
Thanks. So the P.E.T Bottles can handle 12psi? This is how I plan to package my IPA for a comp
Hi there! Does the beer need to be chilled to transfer it through the carbonation cap? Or is 18-19*C fine?
it doesn't have to be but it will help reduce foaming, cheers
@@DudesBrews thanks :) Three quick questions (regarding the carbonation cap part of the video) :
1. What's Your beer wire size, is it 3/8"?
2. What's the lenght of it? It seems short but working pretty good.
3. What pressure do You purge the bottle with and then fill it with beer?
I'm on my way to start kegging and Your video is very much of a help mate :) TIA.
@@pioterr the beerline that i use between the carb cap and the keg is just a short length of 3/8 about 50cm, when you have the counterpressure in the bottle it reduces foaming so you dont need to step down the diameter or have a long run, I purge and fill the bottle at same pressure as the keg is at (otherwise beer will flow in one direction or the other as soon as you connect due to the differential) so I basically use the gas line off the keg on the bottle then reconnect it to do the transfer. Hope that makes sense! cheers
@@DudesBrews it does and that's a lot of help :) Thanks!
You missed the "put it up to the tap and dribble it in" method 😉. Cheers
haha you only try that method once lol
I don’t bottle all that often, but I was wondering why you needed to purge the bottle with CO2 if you overfilled it to the top? Wouldn’t the beer push out the O2 or is just having That much contact with the oxygen enough to spoil it? Thx!
Purging the bottle prevents dissolved oxygen pickup. Having the the beer foam over prevents oxygen in the headspace keeping the total package oxygen down.
do those bottles hold carbonation good?
they hold pressure ok but you do seem to lose a little carbonation due to the bottle expanding slightly after filling, its a good idea to carb slightly on the high side before going into the plastic bottles to account for this
@@DudesBrews cool I'll keep that in mind. I just picked up 12 of them to bottle off my 1 gallon keg, this seems like the easiest method vs using my beer gun.
JohnnyReverse how did this end up working out for you? How long did your beer stay carbonated for?
I don't believe you need to co2 purge if you're foaming it up like method one... All of that foam must purge o2 just fine. Love to see data to prove me wrong.
it would be great to have some proper data to base these assumptions on but thats beyond my humble means lol! The foaming method will certainly push oxygen present in the bottle out of the top as it fills but that doesn't account for oxygen that might be absorbed as it splashes into the bottle at the start of filling which I believe is the main benefit to doing the purge, how much of a difference that might make is the real question I suppose
You need to use “Pegas” from Russia
I'd rather spend the $30 on the bottling wand lol
Time is money, my friend.
Took you 4.5 minutes to do one bottle. Average 48 bottles to a 5 gallon keg. Thats 3.6 hours to purge and fill 48 bottles...
Maybe you have alot of free time to waste, but unless you REALLY like filling bottles (and most of us hate it), it is way too slow to be practical. A $100 Blickmann Beergun starts to make sense...
This comment misses the point. For myself and I imagine many others, I keep 90% of my beer kegged all the time. Only want a couple (or even a single) bottle every so often, to give away to a friend.
To do a single bottle takes about a minute. He took it slow to demonstrate.
Lol only just saw this comment and yeah you definitely missed the point, if I want to bottle the whole batch I’m not going to keg it first it’ll go straight into bottles and as the other comment states that wasn’t at full speed either so it’s not an issue for me time wise, how long does it take to set up strip down, clean and earn the money to buy a blichmann beer gun anyway??
Dude why post videos when u r a first timer
U r scaring first time brewers
Food for thought
This I find funny but I suspect will confuse u
Co2 is heavier than 02
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DN me when it clicks
After 23 years of brewing I am happy to guide you in the right direction
@@mAdBiLLy275 yeah I'll stick with methods that win me National competitions thanks enjoy your oxidised beer
@Greg R ahh cool can you point in the direction of your channel, I'm always on the lookout for new brewing vids and your expertise sounds just up my street
Do you mean the co2 blanket
The problem is this weird thing called energy which causes gases to move around. Look up the particle model of matter. If it worked how you suggest we’d all be dead, hence air is a mixture and we don’t have layering and stratification of the atmosphere that your suggestion would create.