Yes, I know, but the original poster asked if that was a "MIDI pickup" on Paddy's guitar, and I was explaining as far what a "MIDI pickup" does, it's basically the same thing as the hex pickup that were on pre-MIDI pitch-to-voltage guitar synths that existed in the 70's and early 80's.
@sonicalsonics Well, actually, there's no such thing as a "MIDI pickup". What you're talking about is the hex pickup, which is used to give each guitar string it's own signal, which then allows the guitarist to play synths with more than one string at a time. It looks like Paddy is using an ARP Avatar guitar synth (which oddly, is monophonic, though it still requires the hex pickup). All a "MIDI pickup" does is take the hexaphonic outputs and converts them to MIDI.
Why isn't Delia Derbyshire ever mentioned during the reel to reel tape machine part? They keep playing the Dr. Who song but never mention that she helped make it.
The catalogue of her recordings, at least what has been found so far, is massive and incredible. She was a true innovator. She was making the most incredible sounds back then, sounds that would be challenging to reproduce even with the convenience of digital sampling.
I'm sure everyone knows this by now, but it's interesting that the presenter doesn't tell you abou the Doctor Who theme bassline was actually played by striking piano strings with a mallet. Only the upper melody line was playing with oscillators, and as I understand it, Delia had to record each note individually, then cut the tape together to get the piece as we know it.
Actually, you would need to feed the guitar into a pitch to voltage converter before you could feed the signal into a synth. On the other hand, a lot of analog synths had external inputs for processing sounds through whatever onboard processors the synth had, eg filters, ring modulator, etc. That's actually how Pete Townshend got the keyboard sound on Won't Get Fooled Again, by running an electric organ through his EMS VCS-3. Brian Eno did a lot of that on other people's records, too.
@@jessihawkins9116 I'm not particular familiar with any of the digital synths, so I'm not sure what kind of sound processing features they had. Did things like the DX-7 or whatever have filters, ring modulators, etc to process sounds with?
...and it opened up making music from 'found sounds' limitless to the many and the few. Ten years or so forward from the £30,000 Fairlight, better quality results could be achieved with £2000 Akai rack mounting samplers., and now you can download DAWs for nothing that will do the same job ...and more :-)
Multi track recorder? 4 mains leads of 4 tape recorders wired to 4 leaver switches on a peice of wood! Creativity in action. More money doesn’t mean creativity. Hence the holding of breath as Dr Who gets Disney funding for its 60th. Hmmm expensive bland suit crap.
yes dr Bob Moog... but as a proper Brit you can't show anything other than something british of course hence dr Moog's example should be shown on an EMS... pfff
My 12 year old head would have been blown apart by this programme. 'Tis a pity that I missed it at the time. My Mum threw my Moog - that I found in a cheap second hand shop - in a skip as it eventually needed a new part, and I kept it at her house for safety... D'oh!
this is a very amusing documentary to watch while high. its looks like they had a lot of fun making this.
best visual explanation that I have seen on analog synthesizer generated sounds, fantastic!
Delia Derbyshire's green lampshade, Elizabeth Parker making loops, Paddy Kingsland demonstrating Frippatronics, all in one programme! Nice one!
This doc is fascinating today, it must have been mind bending in it's day.
This video is great tutorial for electronic music begynner produceres.. To know what is what ... omg luv this video with all it's parts
I love how he talks about Robert Moog and then plays an EMS synth rather than a Moog synth.
Hey, at least he pronounced his surname correctly!
The ARP Avatar had both a hex-fuzz circuit and the monophonic synthesizer. In this case, he's using only the hex-fuzz.
As I understand it, the bass line was both-tape-sampled piano notes for transients, and then layered with with sine wave oscillators.
this is a gold mine of edm vocal samples :3
Paddy Kingsland's tape delay machine is like a huge version of the Watkins Copicat!
You done good, Jeffrey Plaide. Thank you so much for sharing these!
The song at 2:36 is Choice by John Baker, from the BBC Radiophonic Workshop - 21 album. Really cool to see how the piece was made!
Yes, I know, but the original poster asked if that was a "MIDI pickup" on Paddy's guitar, and I was explaining as far what a "MIDI pickup" does, it's basically the same thing as the hex pickup that were on pre-MIDI pitch-to-voltage guitar synths that existed in the 70's and early 80's.
8:04 note to self: looks easy to build a re-issue
Thanks for uploading this :)
He said "Moog" right. Bravo.
What a great doco!!
@astrophonix
Frippatronics and the BBC Radiophonic workshop, is there anything better in life?
@sonicalsonics Well, actually, there's no such thing as a "MIDI pickup". What you're talking about is the hex pickup, which is used to give each guitar string it's own signal, which then allows the guitarist to play synths with more than one string at a time. It looks like Paddy is using an ARP Avatar guitar synth (which oddly, is monophonic, though it still requires the hex pickup). All a "MIDI pickup" does is take the hexaphonic outputs and converts them to MIDI.
this is great stuff
Aside from its use in generating hex fuzz, you gotta admit, having each note string separated allows for better pitch-to-voltage conversion... :P
Why isn't Delia Derbyshire ever mentioned during the reel to reel tape machine part? They keep playing the Dr. Who song but never mention that she helped make it.
The catalogue of her recordings, at least what has been found so far, is massive and incredible. She was a true innovator. She was making the most incredible sounds back then, sounds that would be challenging to reproduce even with the convenience of digital sampling.
The answer is in the title of the programme. It isn't about the people, but the production of sound/noise. I love it.
I'm sure everyone knows this by now, but it's interesting that the presenter doesn't tell you abou the Doctor Who theme bassline was actually played by striking piano strings with a mallet. Only the upper melody line was playing with oscillators, and as I understand it, Delia had to record each note individually, then cut the tape together to get the piece as we know it.
that’s dumb. i could’ve done all that in fruity loops 🥱
Cuando las ideas van mas adelante que el hardware, las cosas se ponen buenas.
Actually, you would need to feed the guitar into a pitch to voltage converter before you could feed the signal into a synth. On the other hand, a lot of analog synths had external inputs for processing sounds through whatever onboard processors the synth had, eg filters, ring modulator, etc. That's actually how Pete Townshend got the keyboard sound on Won't Get Fooled Again, by running an electric organ through his EMS VCS-3. Brian Eno did a lot of that on other people's records, too.
they should’ve put external inputs on the digital ones too. The only one I have that does this is the Korg MS2000R
@@jessihawkins9116 I'm not particular familiar with any of the digital synths, so I'm not sure what kind of sound processing features they had. Did things like the DX-7 or whatever have filters, ring modulators, etc to process sounds with?
@@Kohntarkosz yeah but you needed to go through menus or get an external programmer to make the patches.
@@Kohntarkosz the Behringer K2 has external input
@sonicalsonics that would be too early, midi protocol was defined in 1982.
Gawd almighty, that bottle piece must have taken ages to put together :-O
3:50 what mixer is that ?
Did nobody ever mention the cash register clanging to the tune of "Adeste Fideles / O Come All Ye Faithful"?
Dr Moog himself said that it's similar to how you pronounce the word "rogue."
If you hear the moog Version of the 10th anniversary dr who theme you can here all the hearts in UK breaking as did Delias.
Old steel factory lampshades are rare
nice
I understand now!
Is that an early synth pickup on Kingsland's Tele? Looks like an ARP Avatar
I was thinking more Chris Morris.
Hi Jeffrey, I'd really like to know what the oscillators name is and who invented it! Surley that's the only thing engineers could use before to VCO
And just some 4 years later the Fairlight CMI and other sampling systems were all over the place.
The very first Fairlight CMI went on sale the year this documentary was made/broadcast.
...and it opened up making music from 'found sounds' limitless to the many and the few.
Ten years or so forward from the £30,000 Fairlight, better quality results could be achieved with £2000 Akai rack mounting samplers., and now you can download DAWs for nothing that will do the same job ...and more :-)
The Williams Copycat....!!
BaddaBigBoom That's incredible Badda..... genuinely incredible....!!
Crypto currency will be next.....
An example of Frippertronics at 4:30.
This guy is Alan Partridge
1:07 The origin of Complextro.
4:19 funny how guitar synths either sound like guitars or synthesizers but never both
It sounds like an Art of Noise demo tape
Indeed. \m/
el inicio de los efectos de loop.
That first guitar clip sounds like it's using the Avatar's hex fuzz.
This guy knows a cracking owl sanctuary.
9:20 that's a B
Something tells me that mysteryguitarman has seen this.
song at 8:15 ? in dyer need
Dyer maker?
Doctor who theme
Pink Floyd was made this things years ago.
and bear in mind that MIDI hadn't been invented in 1979 :-) 1982 was the first agreed standard.
10:19 Lol! :^D
6:15 - so close to making harsh noise
Harsh Noise is just the noisiest and most random side of noise music.
Yes it was, now we have X Factor & Strictly Come Dancing to replace it.
it is an Avatar. Wish I'd kept mine..
It wasn't an E but never mind.
0:32 No we don't.
Paaaaarrrrrttttrrriiiiddddgggge!
Ahaaaaa!
Yes...but so many people, including so-called "synth enthusiasts", pronounce it like "moo". Drives me bonkers.
Damn...The part at the beginning was annoying...
And now you can do that and much more on your phone!
I once found a Toad and named him Dippy Dinghead, but he's dead now because i killed him.
he secretly hated his production assistant and was always making life difficult
I cannot tell a lie, I mispronounced it for years.
that's nowhere near an E....more like an A#. great doc though.
01:00 to 02:00 horror movie
Multi track recorder? 4 mains leads of 4 tape recorders wired to 4 leaver switches on a peice of wood! Creativity in action. More money doesn’t mean creativity. Hence the holding of breath as Dr Who gets Disney funding for its 60th. Hmmm expensive bland suit crap.
yes dr Bob Moog... but as a proper Brit you can't show anything other than something british of course hence dr Moog's example should be shown on an EMS... pfff
My 12 year old head would have been blown apart by this programme. 'Tis a pity that I missed it at the time. My Mum threw my Moog - that I found in a cheap second hand shop - in a skip as it eventually needed a new part, and I kept it at her house for safety... D'oh!