I got this, (hit josh, throw him in traits, do a kamehameha on him, slice him up, and beat him up till next Christmas.) there I teach him a lesson or two.
d good (References TriDasie) I'm the Princess of Friendship. I'm the Princess of Friendship. I'm the Princess of Friendship. I'm the Princess of Friendship.
This turned out pretty well. I didn't expect to collab with you one day, but here we are, tackling on an episode that... well we kind of echoed each other off of. I wasn't sure what to pick though, so that's that. The only real complaint was the odd uneven sizing of each other's OC's. At least there wasn't flashy text like Death Note had. Now to find a way out of that portal.
Sorry typo, you used a teleporting spell, is that a new trick you can do now? Where are you right now when Firebrand open a portal and you sent you somewhere, are you going to be ok?
Um, if spike was born at the same time twilight was accepted into magic kindergarten, which if it ran by real world standards, generally accept children once they turn 5, and around now, twilight would be a graduate that has been out of college for at least a year, wouldn’t spike technically be somewhere in his early 20’s or late teens depending on how old twilight was when she graduated?
Dragons age much slower than ponies, also I'm pretty sure that the Mane 6 are teenagers, equestria just works differently. Especially in its educational department
Personally, I think that the mane 6 are 18 to 22 years of age, maybe older. People probably think they’re teens because A: they way they act and behave, B: the fact that the exact lifespans of equestrians are unknown(though we do know that even the “average” earth pony could live for centuries, and that dragons live far longer), and C: the portal to the human world(no fan-rage please) turns fully grown ponies into teenagers, and the thousands of years old celestia into a 30-40 year old.
Personally, I think Spike has to be somewhere around eleven or twelve, considering three years later in season 8, he goes through essentially dragon puberty and gains wings. In which case, it was wrong to ship him with Rarity back in season 1 and it's still wrong now. I have no issue with Spike and Rarity being different species, it's just that they're an adult and a child, and that's never okay! Ever!
About Twilight not freaking out; she's gone through the situation twice already and they wanted to avert the "Rule of Three" gag. But my head cannon; and I have to paraphrase this TFS joke; Twilight on the inside was probably:- Twilight: "It doesn't bother me; It doesn't bother me; It Bothers Me; It Bothers A Lot; AND WHAT THE HAY IS UP WITH THE ORANGE!" (Didn't want to swear.)
Actually darkflame's line and my line came from the same joke; type TFS Cell's Arena and you will find it. But do watch the entire series if you love DBZ.
Ise no Kami I found that episode just before the season 7 finale so boring and predictable (not to mention the lesson hitting a little too close to home for me to be comfortable) I actually left to do some dishes instead.
Yeah since we're getting on Discord's case, I'll just pull a quote from DWK. "Discord is a lonely, insecure manchild who acts like he's the smartest guy in the room and that he's the puppetmaster who's pulling all the strings until his transparent attempts at manipulating people backfire and he ends up sulking in a corner or forcing out apologies if he has to. He only feels bad when everyone gets so sick of his shit that the only choice is between fucking off or saying he's sorry."
I didn’t have any real problems with this episode except for the immediate jumps in conclusion especially considering how twilight included discord when terek took over
I have to relate with both Twilight and Goldenfox. This episode personally pisses me off. Twilight made some mistakes in this episode, but the rest of the mane 6 were complete assholes for continually not telling her what happened when she away. And Discord, even if he's a troll, this seemed to me, out of character for him. I would think he would be more considerate for Twilight's feelings after she fricken saved him from Tirek
There is irritated-jealousy and then there's sad-lonely-jealousy. One can be played for comedy and can't. This was the latter and feeling that way sucks so hard. Making someone feel that way on purpose is not cool at all.
I mean, in the season 2 premiere, discord showed twilight an image of the past... can't he just do the same now? No, because Discord is an absolute troll.
Hey I want to be a Brony and I'm planning to make my OC to be part pokemon, pony, dragon, and changling After I get through the cruel sitcom called school
12:00... Hey Firebrand, GoldenFox... are you familiar with the concept of anthesis? The opposing force? Thor Vs. Jourmangandr, Hiemdale Vs. Loki, Odin Vs. Fenir, Freyr Vs. Sultr? Good V. Evil, Order Vs. Chaos, Harmony Vs. ... oh my celestia, Discord.
12:15 ...Well...he _would_ later free four supervillains as a "test" for Twilight, so...yeah, jeopardising his friendships is something he's unfortunately quite good at.
@@jasonramirez1064 It is in either Season 8 or 9. Also the ending for this series is...controversial, to say the least. Not everyone's happy with it, since it doesn't quite line up with Twilight's personality or character growth much at all, or the theme of the show ("friendship" and "keep friends close so you can tackle things together"). That's all I'll say about the ending.
12:06 OK guys stop right there. Need I remind you that Twilight had every reason to push Discord away?! After all this he did to her and her friends, you EXPECT her to accept him like the others?! He manipulated her more than once, let plunder seeds rip her home apart without any help, and sold out Equestria to Tirek just to be his evil, chaotic self again!! Twilight had no reason to treat him as a friend!
Right yes Twi needed to learn that lesson but Discord has always treated her like crap why are they friends again right so he doesn't destroy the world.
Look here. Discord is a trickster by nature & personality and some of those manipulations had some "lesson" behind it. The incident with the Plunderseeds was a plan that was supposed to have taken affect years ago but took so long of a time that Discord reformed too late (also being a lesson to Twilight). As for the betrayal, the review explicitly stated that Discord regretted what he did after he himself gets betrayed by Tirek and since then is at least trying to learn better, meaning Twilight had no reason to think he would turn back again and use a spell on her friends. Did you also forget that Twilight had Discord released despite such betrayal?
Everybody else has talked about Discord and opinions and stuff, so I'm just going to point out that from 3:58 to 4:01 Twilight covers Spike with her wing. A little detail showing she DOES care about Spike, it's just that a lot of the writers don't.
When I originally saw this episode I kind of hated everyone but Twilight. While yes she was being idiotic she seemed hurt and to see her friends not give a shit abd have discord Mock her in a way just made me mad. I agree with Golden Fox that the other ponies should of been called out to.thks was just a really bad episode.
I have to disagree with 11:37. Yes, Twilight was jealous, but some of her suspicions are understandable. Discord had them under his control in his first episode. Discord has routinely betrayed and lied to them in the past and continued to do so in the future. Forgiveness doesn’t mean trust. Forgiveness is something you choose to give. Trust Hass to be earned.
I agree with you two, though what angered me most was Discord's dickishness. Especially post season 4 finale where Twilight showed him COMPLETE COMPASSION, yet he still acts like a jerk here. It REALLY angered me. WORST MLP EPISODE EVER.
I feel Discord was in the wrong in this episode moreso than Twilight. Discord was the villain of The Return of Harmony. He messed with Twilight and the girls first. He ought to be kind first. As far as I'm concerned, Twilight and Discord still aren't friends, and I see Three's a Crowd and What About Discord as missed opportunities.
I really feel like this episode just smacked the ending to Twilight's kingdom in the face. Thank god Twilight and Discord have better interactions later. Discord still likes messing with her but does treat her like a friend as well, and Twilight isn't as put off by his personaility as she was here.
Yeah, the whole "manipulate Twilight into learning a lesson" bit was great in Princess Twilight Sparkle, but it feels wrong in a post Twilight's Kingdom episode. I like what they did better in Celestial Advice, where Discord is simply communicating badly.
Doctor Eggnog yeah, I hate how everything I see forgiveness is like just "stop doing bad things" rather than make up for what you've done, it's like locking someone in a room for ages then letting them out and saying "i saved your life". People need to realise if they caused something, especially on purpose, they need to make up for it if they want to be viewed as good, you can't just stop doing a bad thing and be amazing for doing that.
16:06 just caught that reference to greek mythology where hades kidnapped phesphroane (can't spell name) and when she was supposed to come back he tricked her into eating the sacred food so she has to spend one third of the year with hades which is why we have seasons
This is why I love critics like these guys. They point out certain flaws that doesn't seem right while I however, never notice how the episode goes. Probably the best part they point out was 11:34 . It's unexpected to be honest and doesn't seem right for Twilight to assume Discord is "still" evil after all the previous episodes she had with him including Discord's mistake in betraying his friends. He learned his lesson the hard way though and was later forgiven. So after watching this scene, I feel like the writer didn't thought about it, but went along with this script episode anyway. Note: I know it's just a TV show and nothing serious about it, but it's always interesting how we don't notice something is off until someone points them out.
Kid Danger: *wearing his purple scarf on his neck wearing his mighty pup movie outfit looking annoyed* Discard is freaking annoying! And what the hell?! Disrespectful!
The five that were in the know that keep saying "Oh you had to be there." ...I think that's just an assumption from them that Twilight would be alright with just missing one event with discord. ......But Twilight a bit more...obsessive of these things than most give her credit for. She spent 3 days organizing her books, and knowing her she has to organize them in different ways.. by the dewy decimal system, by color, by title alphabetically, by size, or by genre. Bottom line.. this episode is just adding fuel to the flame on how obsessive Twilight could get, but in a very serious and unfunny way than Lesson Zero, where it was more scary and funny. And as the Horse from Ren and Stimpy said. "Hmmmm.........No sir, I didn't like it."
One of the theories is kinda a mix of both. He _started_ with a lesson in mind, but got too much of a kick out of getting under Twilight's skin so it became more of a cruel joke, which is why everyone else at the end weren't happy with him.
Not gonna lie, this episode wasn't all that great. I felt annoyed and agitated and I felt sorry for Twilight, for the most part. What really annoyed me was how forgetful the mane 5 were when Twilight asked them how the day went. And it annoyed me how they always said 'you had to be there' as an excuse to dodge the explanation. It's wrong. Bottom line, this episode is an F for me.
GamerGodLink I personally am of the belief that the mane 6 are In their mid 20s and spike is somewhere from 13-15. Also keep in mind age differences are much more creepy at the younger end of the spectrum. A 13 and 18 year old couple is super creepy, and people would say the 18 year old is a pedophile. With just a 5 year gap. And yet put that same 5 year gap between a 40 and 45 year old and then there's no problem from anyone.
I wil admit that the difference is odd, but considering that Dragons can nap for a century, it begs the question of how old must a dragon be to not be called a 'baby' anymore.
Cosmo the Seedrian X Tails the Fox. One a plant and one a fox and yet people ship it. Which is fine. I actually really like the ship. Interspecies relationships aren't bad. Unless the age gap is too fricken big! Then it’s a problem and bad!
Pinkie Pie: You mean time travel?! Me: "Looking through comments" So nopony's going to mention the fact that Pinkie Pie made a Back to the Future reference.
How much you wanna bet that if Twilight acted like herself from Lesson Zero these guys would be complaining about Twilight taking a leap back in her character development lol Love you both, big fan
I took it as he didn't want to interrupt her during her booksortcation he said as much. Then when he realized how much it bothered her at the point he was having fun watching her squirm and figured he could teach a lesson to her about jealousy at the same time.
Okay, your math is just bugging me. Yes, if you put that as one second for the placement of each book, you get 5.56 hours. BUT, that only applies if she already knows exactly where each book is going in the first place. That x factor makes this impossible to quantify for, besides the minimum. Which even that is a stretch since she was shown levitating three book at once at the start. Now that's "taking it too seriously," and good day. Other than that, pretty funny except for one crack that would start a flame war if I brought it up. And nice work to you GoldenFox.
About three years back, Mr. Enter did an Admirable Animation episode on the works of the poems by Shane Koyczan, depicting the world of trolls. A lot of people called him out saying that he was misinterpreting the concept of "trolling". I think their reasoning was pretty piss-poor, but if what this video described the original concept of "trolling", that does make a bit more sense. If that's the case, however, they should have put more thought into their responses.
That fertilizer line I thought it was a reference to drugs. If it is, it would provide a subtle way of promoting awareness of what some drugs can do to you (if in a watered down way, knowing me I am most likely projecting here but still.)
i can't stop laughing when you said Math Time, honestly, i love it when you go all suto-math geek in a matter of seconds like this. with your reviews and taking too seriously when you add any math into it, i love it just as much as matpat's videos
10:00 it's even deeper foreshadowing to the season finale win right after that scene of twilight chastising pinkie in a bush behind the others you can just barely see the top of starlight's head and a pair of binoculars. Meaning that conversation is what gave for the idea for the finale
After which she snuck into the library, stole the spell, mastered it to the point she could change it, altered it to include some very specific trapping clauses, and mastered THAT spell. All in how many days, together with the time it took her to learn all the other new spells she used? I don't care how 'gifted at magic' she's supposed to be, I call Shenanigans. Oh yeah, and there's the part where she says she experimented with the Map to see if she could actually use the trap-spell on it. When and how, without being detected by anyone? Especially by Discord, who has been proven to be able to detect imbalances in magic. Magic that could tear the spacetime continuum apart seems like a pretty big imbalance to me.
Honestly I need to ask. Are there any good rewrites on what about discord where discord not only apologizes to Twilight but feels guilty himself for making her sad? Because if so! Please send me links to those! ASAP!
if you pause the video and press the . key, it moves the video forward by 1 frame allowing you to easily catch the message with in a few dozen presses. it's a little annoying, but better then getting lucky by spamming the spacebar. hope this helps!
Oh the look on your face at 11:39. Classic. Btw, I typically respond to a bad pun in at least one of two ways: 1) Wuh wuh wuhhhh. 2) drum-roll-and-cymbal sound effect. Also, I wonder if Discord has ever tried slapstick? If not, here's a stick to slap him with. *Hands you a slapping stick*
Sorry, Golden. I got a little sad when you mention Discord being a bit like The Genie from Aladdin. (sniff) Rest in Peace, Robin Williams. Your body may be gone but your soul and legacy is immortal.
Time travel is not the answer, but discord has shown that he's capable of taking you back in time to witness something, and zecora has that potion. Twilight should've done one of those
I guess she should trust Discord more by this time. But given their history, I wasn't too surprised at the distrust. Hmm. Maybe is was a slip up for the creative team. Guess I didn't think much about that before. A little. But not much.
actually, the uv rays from the sun can dull the color of fur, of which horses have, and staying inside without sunlight will actually darken the colors of fur, so what rarity said might actually make sense
Oh I LOVE puns personally. Mostly because I love to see the reactions of people who hate them. (evil grin) Also discord antics are funny, as well as twilight and her crazy conspiracies. I'm probably just WAY too easy to please, but this is actually one of my favourite episodes of.....whatever season this is from :3 I hope you had a good thanksgiving weekend, Josh. You too GoldenFox, if you see this.
I mistook this for the season 5 episode with Fluttershy and the gala for some reason when I read the title.. Also GoldenFox has some... rather curious art work of his OC on deviantart.. interesting pieces I may or may not have favorited for.. reasons.
I thought maybe that "Flutterbomb!" gag at the end was meant as foreshadowing for a future video... but then I remembered that Josh already did Taking Brotherhooves Social Too Seriously.
Honestly, I think Discord has the same motivation behind his actions as the Joker (well, I´ve seen a theory on what´s wrong with the Joker, and I´ll use that for this comment because it´s awesome): He knows he is a fictional character, and also not the main character, so he does whatever he feels like because so long as he doesn´t permanently remove any important characters from the story, it´s fine. Also, Discord knows what the show he is in is about, so he works with that whenever he can. After all, we´ve seen Discord break the 4th wall on several occasions, so it´s not that hard to assume that he knows he´s a cartoon character and at the end of the day, all his antics are effectivel meaningless if the writers, a higher force he can´t control in any capacity, disagree with him. Man, imagine being one of the most powerful beings in your world, but that power coming at the cost of knowing that you´re just that product of the imagination of a group of being who could cause you to disappear into nothingness with a stroke of a pen. I say he´s taking it very well.
Holy Crap! Discord gone Plaid! Guess he hit that Ludicrous speed... Wouldn't that mean he's faster then RD considering Ludicrous speed is a thousand times faster then light speed or even warp speed since you can easily blast by someone at warp speed going ludicrous speed? Either way fastest RD ever went is Speed of sound... Discord is the Flash Confirmed. Or, maybe I'm Taking this to ridiculously
Firebrand, if Golden Fox becomes stuck in Tartarus for all eternity Keyframe is going to kill you, painfully.
And By Painfully, We mean..."Torture You Kindly But Likely You'll Be In Pain" Painfully.
Right?
@@BrandonSilverFoxBishop
I think it would more like a slow painful death without the death.
@@goldenwitherphoenix1389 Right.
@arya heisler
That is just painful.
The real question is, will Aramau help Key or defend her fiancee?
1:37, *NOPONY SAID THERE'D BE MATH!!*
Max Harter MATH IS AWESOME IT HELPS YOUR BRAIN
(Insert "so zetta slow" joke here.)
Max Harter I BLAME OUR SCHOOLS!
16:15, KA-*BOOOOOOOOOM!!*
I got this, (hit josh, throw him in traits, do a kamehameha on him, slice him up, and beat him up till next Christmas.) there I teach him a lesson or two.
Ironically, casting a spell that would make everybody think they had a good time is the sort of thing Starlight would do.
Tyrant-Den Sunset? Wouldn't that be a Starlight reaction?
Zéphyr Fields Yeah.. ~ Mintstar
"I'm the Princess of Friendship, I don't get jealous.", What a load of horseapples Twi.
d good (References TriDasie) I'm the Princess of Friendship. I'm the Princess of Friendship. I'm the Princess of Friendship. I'm the Princess of Friendship.
This turned out pretty well. I didn't expect to collab with you one day, but here we are, tackling on an episode that... well we kind of echoed each other off of. I wasn't sure what to pick though, so that's that. The only real complaint was the odd uneven sizing of each other's OC's. At least there wasn't flashy text like Death Note had. Now to find a way out of that portal.
Wait a minute... 8:16 You sons of... aaaagh!!!
GoldenFox I don't get it
Can you specify, please?
Sorry typo, you used a teleporting spell, is that a new trick you can do now? Where are you right now when Firebrand open a portal and you sent you somewhere, are you going to be ok?
GoldenFox Join the club, we got broken mouse and keyboards.
Seriously, I don’t really like flashy text.
Josh: Math Time!
Me: **highschool memories kick in**
Me: Oh hell no *jumps out the window*
Me: Math!?! Nooooooo!!!!!! *Jumps off cliff into a portal that leads into Discords demention*
Um, if spike was born at the same time twilight was accepted into magic kindergarten, which if it ran by real world standards, generally accept children once they turn 5, and around now, twilight would be a graduate that has been out of college for at least a year, wouldn’t spike technically be somewhere in his early 20’s or late teens depending on how old twilight was when she graduated?
Dragons age much slower than ponies, also I'm pretty sure that the Mane 6 are teenagers, equestria just works differently. Especially in its educational department
Toontastic Gaming I think the mane 6 are like late 20s since they own their own homes and have jobs
@@brandonb4742 I think of them as 18-20 years olds
Personally, I think that the mane 6 are 18 to 22 years of age, maybe older. People probably think they’re teens because A: they way they act and behave, B: the fact that the exact lifespans of equestrians are unknown(though we do know that even the “average” earth pony could live for centuries, and that dragons live far longer), and C: the portal to the human world(no fan-rage please) turns fully grown ponies into teenagers, and the thousands of years old celestia into a 30-40 year old.
Personally, I think Spike has to be somewhere around eleven or twelve, considering three years later in season 8, he goes through essentially dragon puberty and gains wings.
In which case, it was wrong to ship him with Rarity back in season 1 and it's still wrong now. I have no issue with Spike and Rarity being different species, it's just that they're an adult and a child, and that's never okay! Ever!
For the last time;
NOBODY
SAID
THERE WOULD BE
*MAAAATH!!*
wolfclaw719 what you expect from a Navy guy who like my Little pony
I thought he was a Marine?
wolfclaw719 I hate you,csusakaba
I thought the line was "FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME, NOBODY SAID THERE'D BE MATH! IIII BLAAAAME OOOOUR SCHOOOOLS!"
Yeah but Josh cuts out the swears in his videos so what can you do?
11:38 The literal pin drop sound effect killed me.
Christine S up yours!
*_YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES, AND THEN I WANT TO HEAR A PIN_*
*_DROP!_*
About Twilight not freaking out; she's gone through the situation twice already and they wanted to avert
the "Rule of Three" gag.
But my head cannon; and I have to paraphrase this TFS joke; Twilight on the inside was probably:-
Twilight: "It doesn't bother me; It doesn't bother me; It Bothers Me; It Bothers A Lot;
AND WHAT THE HAY IS UP WITH THE ORANGE!" (Didn't want to swear.)
Jazzer995 Congratulations, I totally read that in twilight's voice. Complete with echo-y thought effects.
HOW DID ALL THESE SQUARES MAKE A CIRCLE?!
darkflame728 ??? Where is this one from? cause I kinda wanna see it
Jazzer995 NEEEEEEERDS!!!!
Actually darkflame's line and my line came from the same joke; type TFS Cell's Arena and you will find it.
But do watch the entire series if you love DBZ.
11:36 BEHOLD, THE PRINCESS OF FRIENDSHIP IN ALL HER GLORIOUS GLORY!
(orchestral rendition of 'Star Spangled Banner' plays at full volume)
"I wanna stop watching this episode because of this!"
I DID stop watching this episode because of this.
Ise no Kami I found that episode just before the season 7 finale so boring and predictable (not to mention the lesson hitting a little too close to home for me to be comfortable) I actually left to do some dishes instead.
Ise no Kami now I stopped watching it cuz you realize that you're feeling kind of dumb for looking at it.
This was a good episode, why would anyone stop watching it??
the "FLUTTERBOMB!!!!!!!!!" was the best!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So, the moral of this episode is, “Continuity is not a polite suggestion.”
Yeah since we're getting on Discord's case, I'll just pull a quote from DWK.
"Discord is a lonely, insecure manchild who acts like he's the smartest guy in the room and that he's the puppetmaster who's pulling all the strings until his transparent attempts at manipulating people backfire and he ends up sulking in a corner or forcing out apologies if he has to. He only feels bad when everyone gets so sick of his shit that the only choice is between fucking off or saying he's sorry."
@Night Shade
Yeah but it's a kids show so trying still counts. Wouldn't want them to know the truth.
I didn’t have any real problems with this episode except for the immediate jumps in conclusion especially considering how twilight included discord when terek took over
I have to relate with both Twilight and Goldenfox. This episode personally pisses me off. Twilight made some mistakes in this episode, but the rest of the mane 6 were complete assholes for continually not telling her what happened when she away. And Discord, even if he's a troll, this seemed to me, out of character for him. I would think he would be more considerate for Twilight's feelings after she fricken saved him from Tirek
There is irritated-jealousy and then there's sad-lonely-jealousy. One can be played for comedy and can't. This was the latter and feeling that way sucks so hard. Making someone feel that way on purpose is not cool at all.
Patronofdragons Fary tales are your dreams that's why I'm always in them catch you later babe
And that's one of many reasons why "What About Discord?" is the worst episode in the entire series for me.
@@ants7279
What?
@TexasBr0 Why?
I mean, in the season 2 premiere, discord showed twilight an image of the past...
can't he just do the same now?
No, because Discord is an absolute troll.
Maybe it exceeded the upload file size limit. In other words... Discord couldn't display the image. 😉
Ah, the return of the Flutter Bomb. *_WITH A VENGEANCE_*
Ah, so THAT's a Flutter Bomb.
...
She exploded.
How does pony explode?
And how many of those does Firebrand have?
I always did want more of those
too many
A link for those who don't recall where the original Flutterbomb came from: ruclips.net/video/ePuVnHMgHog/видео.htmlm27s
Nicely done, defiently liked the perspectives here ^^
Lightning Bliss I never knew golden fox is a fan of Harry Potter and that explains the gem
Lightning Bliss What did you think of the math, Blissy?
Hey I want to be a Brony and I'm planning to make my OC to be part pokemon, pony, dragon, and changling
After I get through the cruel sitcom called school
9:42. I keep re watching that part it's so funny!! I'm doing this
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And firebrand at the last part spun in the backround
12:00... Hey Firebrand, GoldenFox... are you familiar with the concept of anthesis? The opposing force? Thor Vs. Jourmangandr, Hiemdale Vs. Loki, Odin Vs. Fenir, Freyr Vs. Sultr? Good V. Evil, Order Vs. Chaos, Harmony Vs. ... oh my celestia, Discord.
Two videos within a week? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?!
8:38 *_“OH MY GOD!”_*
Yeah, I’m with you Golden... that face was pure nightmare fuel! 😖
4:44 Hahahahahaha. Of course. Discord can’t resist making a Looney Toons reference.
12:15 ...Well...he _would_ later free four supervillains as a "test" for Twilight, so...yeah, jeopardising his friendships is something he's unfortunately quite good at.
Huh? I'm assuming it happens in either season 8 or 9, don't tell me cause I wanna find out what he exactly does on my own
@@jasonramirez1064 It is in either Season 8 or 9.
Also the ending for this series is...controversial, to say the least. Not everyone's happy with it, since it doesn't quite line up with Twilight's personality or character growth much at all, or the theme of the show ("friendship" and "keep friends close so you can tackle things together").
That's all I'll say about the ending.
You can put any and everything on a resume. It's not what you did, it's how you phrase it.
12:06 OK guys stop right there. Need I remind you that Twilight had every reason to push Discord away?! After all this he did to her and her friends, you EXPECT her to accept him like the others?! He manipulated her more than once, let plunder seeds rip her home apart without any help, and sold out Equestria to Tirek just to be his evil, chaotic self again!! Twilight had no reason to treat him as a friend!
Right yes Twi needed to learn that lesson but Discord has always treated her like crap why are they friends again right so he doesn't destroy the world.
Look here. Discord is a trickster by nature & personality and some of those manipulations had some "lesson" behind it. The incident with the Plunderseeds was a plan that was supposed to have taken affect years ago but took so long of a time that Discord reformed too late (also being a lesson to Twilight). As for the betrayal, the review explicitly stated that Discord regretted what he did after he himself gets betrayed by Tirek and since then is at least trying to learn better, meaning Twilight had no reason to think he would turn back again and use a spell on her friends.
Did you also forget that Twilight had Discord released despite such betrayal?
Looking at the comments about the horse star (diamond), seems a lot of you haven't been paying attention to my channel.
GoldenFox
Hi Golden! I love your new design and I can't wait to see what kind of trouble your new powers get yourself (or somepony else) into!
I haven't cuz I found u not long ago.
Everybody else has talked about Discord and opinions and stuff, so I'm just going to point out that from 3:58 to 4:01 Twilight covers Spike with her wing. A little detail showing she DOES care about Spike, it's just that a lot of the writers don't.
When I originally saw this episode I kind of hated everyone but Twilight. While yes she was being idiotic she seemed hurt and to see her friends not give a shit abd have discord Mock her in a way just made me mad. I agree with Golden Fox that the other ponies should of been called out to.thks was just a really bad episode.
This is the episode you make your enemy watch
"Twilight is... pretty neurotic."
YOU DON'T SAY. (insert meme face here)
I have to disagree with 11:37. Yes, Twilight was jealous, but some of her suspicions are understandable. Discord had them under his control in his first episode. Discord has routinely betrayed and lied to them in the past and continued to do so in the future. Forgiveness doesn’t mean trust. Forgiveness is something you choose to give. Trust Hass to be earned.
6:38 Exactly! You're seeing the world through Twilight's perspective.
And look! It's WORKING!
I agree with you two, though what angered me most was Discord's dickishness. Especially post season 4 finale where Twilight showed him COMPLETE COMPASSION, yet he still acts like a jerk here. It REALLY angered me. WORST MLP EPISODE EVER.
12:10 "Atended the grand galloping gala with the Schmooze" PFFFTGoldenfox, you Schmooze, you loseeeee
2:33 it's just an innocent crush. Little kids get them all the time.
Exactly. Spike, the kid in this situation, has romantic feelings for Rarity, the adult. That's not really that strange.
And yet people still ship them
@@rebekahchristie2833 and we don't talk about those people.
In all honesty, the references in this episode had me chuckling.
I feel Discord was in the wrong in this episode moreso than Twilight. Discord was the villain of The Return of Harmony. He messed with Twilight and the girls first. He ought to be kind first. As far as I'm concerned, Twilight and Discord still aren't friends, and I see Three's a Crowd and What About Discord as missed opportunities.
I really feel like this episode just smacked the ending to Twilight's kingdom in the face. Thank god Twilight and Discord have better interactions later. Discord still likes messing with her but does treat her like a friend as well, and Twilight isn't as put off by his personaility as she was here.
Yeah, the whole "manipulate Twilight into learning a lesson" bit was great in Princess Twilight Sparkle, but it feels wrong in a post Twilight's Kingdom episode. I like what they did better in Celestial Advice, where Discord is simply communicating badly.
Doctor Eggnog yeah, I hate how everything I see forgiveness is like just "stop doing bad things" rather than make up for what you've done, it's like locking someone in a room for ages then letting them out and saying "i saved your life". People need to realise if they caused something, especially on purpose, they need to make up for it if they want to be viewed as good, you can't just stop doing a bad thing and be amazing for doing that.
Actually Discord never was a villain.
9:11 I couldnt hold my laughter in after this!
4:43 that's one of the best Discord edits I've ever seen
16:06 just caught that reference to greek mythology where hades kidnapped phesphroane (can't spell name) and when she was supposed to come back he tricked her into eating the sacred food so she has to spend one third of the year with hades which is why we have seasons
This is why I love critics like these guys. They point out certain flaws that doesn't seem right while I however, never notice how the episode goes. Probably the best part they point out was 11:34 . It's unexpected to be honest and doesn't seem right for Twilight to assume Discord is "still" evil after all the previous episodes she had with him including Discord's mistake in betraying his friends.
He learned his lesson the hard way though and was later forgiven. So after watching this scene, I feel like the writer didn't thought about it, but went along with this script episode anyway.
Note: I know it's just a TV show and nothing serious about it, but it's always interesting how we don't notice something is off until someone points them out.
"Wait, both? is he saying that..?" "MOVING ON!!"
(10:00) Best joke/reference in the whole video! 😂😂😂
9:20 to 9:25 best part
-I love Voltron okay?! And that was a really iconic scene!-
Kid Danger: *wearing his purple scarf on his neck wearing his mighty pup movie outfit looking annoyed* Discard is freaking annoying! And what the hell?! Disrespectful!
3:56
Ya know what's funny to me? The fact that Discord's speed trail is basically just plaid.
Hears "fallout equestria" 👍
The five that were in the know that keep saying "Oh you had to be there." ...I think that's just an assumption from them that Twilight would be alright with just missing one event with discord. ......But Twilight a bit more...obsessive of these things than most give her credit for. She spent 3 days organizing her books, and knowing her she has to organize them in different ways.. by the dewy decimal system, by color, by title alphabetically, by size, or by genre.
Bottom line.. this episode is just adding fuel to the flame on how obsessive Twilight could get, but in a very serious and unfunny way than Lesson Zero, where it was more scary and funny. And as the Horse from Ren and Stimpy said. "Hmmmm.........No sir, I didn't like it."
Fun fact, I actually put dnd on my resume as the description Firebrand uses.
One of the theories is kinda a mix of both.
He _started_ with a lesson in mind, but got too much of a kick out of getting under Twilight's skin so it became more of a cruel joke, which is why everyone else at the end weren't happy with him.
Not gonna lie, this episode wasn't all that great. I felt annoyed and agitated and I felt sorry for Twilight, for the most part. What really annoyed me was how forgetful the mane 5 were when Twilight asked them how the day went. And it annoyed me how they always said 'you had to be there' as an excuse to dodge the explanation. It's wrong. Bottom line, this episode is an F for me.
2:35 oh come on golden Fox Interspecies couples isn't Not that bad but I have to agree about the age difference that's kind of creepy
GamerGodLink I personally am of the belief that the mane 6 are In their mid 20s and spike is somewhere from 13-15. Also keep in mind age differences are much more creepy at the younger end of the spectrum.
A 13 and 18 year old couple is super creepy, and people would say the 18 year old is a pedophile. With just a 5 year gap.
And yet put that same 5 year gap between a 40 and 45 year old and then there's no problem from anyone.
yoshifan30 Your show sucks ass
I wil admit that the difference is odd, but considering that Dragons can nap for a century, it begs the question of how old must a dragon be to not be called a 'baby' anymore.
prince cooler huh, didn't know that, you learn something new everyday.
Cosmo the Seedrian X Tails the Fox. One a plant and one a fox and yet people ship it. Which is fine. I actually really like the ship. Interspecies relationships aren't bad. Unless the age gap is too fricken big! Then it’s a problem and bad!
Oh my gosh, your points about Discord at the end. I just realized…he’s like Cloud Guy 😱😫. I hate that guy
Yup.
Pinkie Pie: You mean time travel?!
Me: "Looking through comments" So nopony's going to mention the fact that Pinkie Pie made a Back to the Future reference.
Was that a Voltron reference? Hell yeah!
How much you wanna bet that if Twilight acted like herself from Lesson Zero these guys would be complaining about Twilight taking a leap back in her character development lol
Love you both, big fan
Flutterbomb came back
I laughed so hard at that part
Lord Prototype dude I swear to God if I ever see anybody as annoying as you jump 10 feet in the air and kick you square in the sack
@@ants7279 stop it. Your scaring me 😰
@@mishalashfaq580 2 years ago?Get over it loser Mlp is dead.
@@ants7279 oof that’s one way to say not to comment. :/
@@mishalashfaq580 And bring in the "kiss"
You didn't mention the Starlight easter egg, that could have been on the script
When you were going NONONONONONO I was screaming YES because of the BTTF theme. I can't help it.
I took it as he didn't want to interrupt her during her booksortcation he said as much. Then when he realized how much it bothered her at the point he was having fun watching her squirm and figured he could teach a lesson to her about jealousy at the same time.
2:46:THE SUN IS A DEADLY LASER 🌡☀️🌝🌞🔥
Did anyone see starlight when twilight said that
XD I dying of laughter of you guys saying "no" over and over about Pinkie's idea of time travel. And Goldie's reaction to that face Discord made
Okay, your math is just bugging me. Yes, if you put that as one second for the placement of each book, you get 5.56 hours. BUT, that only applies if she already knows exactly where each book is going in the first place. That x factor makes this impossible to quantify for, besides the minimum. Which even that is a stretch since she was shown levitating three book at once at the start. Now that's "taking it too seriously," and good day.
Other than that, pretty funny except for one crack that would start a flame war if I brought it up. And nice work to you GoldenFox.
HiddenMistEnforcer Im the guy hu shit on your door step ladt weej.
About three years back, Mr. Enter did an Admirable Animation episode on the works of the poems by Shane Koyczan, depicting the world of trolls. A lot of people called him out saying that he was misinterpreting the concept of "trolling". I think their reasoning was pretty piss-poor, but if what this video described the original concept of "trolling", that does make a bit more sense. If that's the case, however, they should have put more thought into their responses.
Maybe in this strange horse-based universe the sun bleaches your coat so staying inside keeps your colours vibrant.
8:16 - 8:17 "Dis face ...Too cute¡" You´r welcome
That fertilizer line I thought it was a reference to drugs. If it is, it would provide a subtle way of promoting awareness of what some drugs can do to you (if in a watered down way, knowing me I am most likely projecting here but still.)
Great work guys! Also props for the Voltron clip (that show needs more recognition seriously).
i can't stop laughing when you said Math Time, honestly, i love it when you go all suto-math geek in a matter of seconds like this. with your reviews and taking too seriously when you add any math into it, i love it just as much as matpat's videos
10:00 it's even deeper foreshadowing to the season finale win right after that scene of twilight chastising pinkie in a bush behind the others you can just barely see the top of starlight's head and a pair of binoculars. Meaning that conversation is what gave for the idea for the finale
After which she snuck into the library, stole the spell, mastered it to the point she could change it, altered it to include some very specific trapping clauses, and mastered THAT spell. All in how many days, together with the time it took her to learn all the other new spells she used? I don't care how 'gifted at magic' she's supposed to be, I call Shenanigans.
Oh yeah, and there's the part where she says she experimented with the Map to see if she could actually use the trap-spell on it. When and how, without being detected by anyone? Especially by Discord, who has been proven to be able to detect imbalances in magic. Magic that could tear the spacetime continuum apart seems like a pretty big imbalance to me.
Firebrand just sent Goldenfox to hell.
That's just funny
7:06 - 7:39 I'm glad we agree with that! One of my all-time favourite video games.
4:43 Did Discord just do Sonic the Hedgehog's Super Peel Out?!
1:10 well, it IS a Discord episode. Not making sense... makes sense
I was mad at Discord for making Twilight feel left out even though it was never his intention to. I still find his statements completely bullshit.
Honestly I need to ask. Are there any good rewrites on what about discord where discord not only apologizes to Twilight but feels guilty himself for making her sad? Because if so! Please send me links to those! ASAP!
8:16 Josh, who's your editor? I'm going to punch them for those "Blink-and-you'll-miss-it" word flashes.
Dakota Metzgar penis
The message is "Dis face... Too cute!"
I'm aware Gregory. Finally got it after fifteen tries.
if you pause the video and press the . key, it moves the video forward by 1 frame allowing you to easily catch the message with in a few dozen presses. it's a little annoying, but better then getting lucky by spamming the spacebar. hope this helps!
*taps shoulder*
That'd be me... by the way, my name is ALSO Dakota!
Oh the look on your face at 11:39. Classic. Btw, I typically respond to a bad pun in at least one of two ways: 1) Wuh wuh wuhhhh. 2) drum-roll-and-cymbal sound effect. Also, I wonder if Discord has ever tried slapstick? If not, here's a stick to slap him with. *Hands you a slapping stick*
Sorry, Golden. I got a little sad when you mention Discord being a bit like The Genie from Aladdin. (sniff) Rest in Peace, Robin Williams. Your body may be gone but your soul and legacy is immortal.
Time travel is not the answer, but discord has shown that he's capable of taking you back in time to witness something, and zecora has that potion. Twilight should've done one of those
I guess she should trust Discord more by this time. But given their history, I wasn't too surprised at the distrust. Hmm. Maybe is was a slip up for the creative team. Guess I didn't think much about that before. A little. But not much.
actually, the uv rays from the sun can dull the color of fur, of which horses have, and staying inside without sunlight will actually darken the colors of fur, so what rarity said might actually make sense
Mata Nui that was awesome! Really amazing job, Josh. Again, can't wait for the next video. Have a good one!
8:38 I paused at the exact right and well.... that'll be in my dreams tonight
Oh I LOVE puns personally. Mostly because I love to see the reactions of people who hate them. (evil grin) Also discord antics are funny, as well as twilight and her crazy conspiracies. I'm probably just WAY too easy to please, but this is actually one of my favourite episodes of.....whatever season this is from :3 I hope you had a good thanksgiving weekend, Josh. You too GoldenFox, if you see this.
this entire episode felt off to me.
Only reason why I completed this episode when I saw it is because Discord was a main character and he's very funny to me
I mistook this for the season 5 episode with Fluttershy and the gala for some reason when I read the title..
Also GoldenFox has some... rather curious art work of his OC on deviantart.. interesting pieces I may or may not have favorited for.. reasons.
Wishing Star and I have no shame in it. :p
JOSH! HOW COULD YOU?!? The Flutterbomb is outlawed under the international articles of Equestrian Warfare!
I thought maybe that "Flutterbomb!" gag at the end was meant as foreshadowing for a future video... but then I remembered that Josh already did Taking Brotherhooves Social Too Seriously.
Ahhh the floo powder meme ..... Never gets old ....
Did anyone notice that the Smooze was in this episode? Cause I just realized that it was on this episode.
Props for bringing up Spec Ops The Line, that game was frigging art
Math
Nononononononono
lol
You should have to say yesyesyesyesyesyes
Honestly, I think Discord has the same motivation behind his actions as the Joker (well, I´ve seen a theory on what´s wrong with the Joker, and I´ll use that for this comment because it´s awesome): He knows he is a fictional character, and also not the main character, so he does whatever he feels like because so long as he doesn´t permanently remove any important characters from the story, it´s fine. Also, Discord knows what the show he is in is about, so he works with that whenever he can.
After all, we´ve seen Discord break the 4th wall on several occasions, so it´s not that hard to assume that he knows he´s a cartoon character and at the end of the day, all his antics are effectivel meaningless if the writers, a higher force he can´t control in any capacity, disagree with him.
Man, imagine being one of the most powerful beings in your world, but that power coming at the cost of knowing that you´re just that product of the imagination of a group of being who could cause you to disappear into nothingness with a stroke of a pen.
I say he´s taking it very well.
Holy Crap! Discord gone Plaid! Guess he hit that Ludicrous speed... Wouldn't that mean he's faster then RD considering Ludicrous speed is a thousand times faster then light speed or even warp speed since you can easily blast by someone at warp speed going ludicrous speed? Either way fastest RD ever went is Speed of sound... Discord is the Flash Confirmed. Or, maybe I'm Taking this to ridiculously
I like puns. What About Discord's puns were the worst