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As the Grandson of a Nazi child soldier who thankfully surrendered to the Dutch, and a Nazi child slave/servant who courageously fled into the woods - I have spent, and will spend, my entire life reflecting on the horrors of WW2, war in general, history, geopolitics, and the human condition. As always, thank you for your insights!
Were the refugees on the plane being targeted because they are Jewish or because they are Israeli. THE DIFFERENCE IS HUGE!! The PALESTINIAN flag is not anti-semitic! This is absurd. You have made the word "anti-semitic" have no value when you use it to defend the rights of Israel to steal land and commit genocide, ethnic cleansing, create apartheid and genocide. You are claiming that anyone who speaks out against the actions of 🇮🇱 or Zionist propaganda is anti-semitic. That is insane. Sorry Vlad, but this is absurd! I can imagine how desperate those fleeing Israelis on the plane must have been quite desperate to seek refuge in Russia. Obviously I don't condone the aggressive Russians choosing that way to protest - but you claim that the 🇵🇸 flag is anti-semitic. That is false. The Russians were upset that the Israeli settlers/colonists were fleeing when the 🇵🇸 were being genocided, ethnically cleansed, massacred and weren't allowed to flee. There is nothing anti-semitic about any of that. Now the horrific terrorist actions of the apartheid fascist 🇮🇱 regime and zionist propaganda is no excuse to resort to racist slurs against Jewish ppl. Judaism is not about war crimes, genocide or this fascist ZIONISM or apartheid. Many Jewish are in fact against the zionist propaganda and against 🇮🇱. Here 🇺🇲 they are the most active protesters and getting arrested for pro-🇵🇸 protesting.
YOU JUST CALLED SASCHA BARON COHEN ANTI-SEMITIC. Yeah, sorry Vlad, I am out. Best of luck on getting yourself deprogrammed from all that 🇮🇱 zionist propaganda. SASCHA calls out prejudices with his work. His work on Who Is America with portraying a MOSAD(sp?) agent was very powerful. Apparently you don't get it. His work actually exposes the prejudices and ridiculousness of people.
I am of Eastern European Jewish heritage. Just before I was born, my father changed our surname. When, in my teens, I asked him why, he said 'To protect you'. I didn't understand at the time. I do now.
kinda same, i was given my mother's non jewish, eastern european surname instead of my dad's jewish one to protect me. And just today my dad told me not to tell people about my jewish heritage as a precaution given what's going on
@@sceptic39 I completely understand. Once, for my father, it became about protecting his daughter, he knew he had to change his name, as he knew that danger was still very real. 🧡
Glad you brought up the point about Russia repeatedly threatening violence and death against the entire world unless everyone backs down to them and gives them whatever they want - aside from everything else, that alone says everything you need to know about not only Putin’s Russia, but everyone who still supports them.
When has russia done this, the warning has always been clear. If russia is threatened she will not fear using her large nuclear arsenal That is a warning any potential aggressor its not a threat to the world. Western powers on the other hand repeatedly threaten countries around the world if they dont fall in line with the status quo, first economic bullying then military action.
I totally mentioned Borat this morning this morning in regards to this. Like if someone phoned me and said, "Let's get the Jews at the airport," I would think it was a bad Eastern European comedy skit.
Dagestan is peculiar in that none of its 81 distinct "nationalities" is dominant. These nationalities speak many mutually incomprehensible languages, so Russian is the de facto language of government, though ethnic Russians are only 3.3% of the population. Outside of the small capital city, where ethnicities mix, each ethnic group inhabits some particular mountain valley and has nothing to do with the next door mountain valleys. The total population is a bit more than 3.1 million. About 83% are Muslims, with Sunni Islam of the Shafi'i school being the largest group. There was once a substantial community of Jews, including the culturally distinct "Mountain Jews" who had been there for more than two and a half thousand years, but almost all of them migrated to Israel when the Soviet Union dissolved. There are a handful left. Dagestan is among the poorest and most corrupt republics in the Russian Federation, and it is one of the biggest sources of "meat" for Putin's Grinder. The black market has always been larger than the "regular" economy. With no real cultural cohesion and plenty of rivalries and grievances, Moscow has been able to keep control of this fractious republic by the simple expedient of divide and conquer. The situation is quite different from that of Chechnya.
>> so Russian is the de facto language of government Besides Russian, there is another communication language -- Avarian. Almost anybody in Daghestan understands it.
@@РусланЗаурбеков-з6е Thanks for that valuable information. I did not know that Avar has so many speakers who have it as a second language. I did know that it is the only one of the Daghestani languages with a substantial published literature.
Lets address your 1st lie Relative to other regions using the HDI they are poorer however international their HDI is comparable to the average of Brunei so the place isnt poor. Poor is a very broad term, somebody who lives a simple life like the old believers would be counted as a poor person even though the individual has chosen that life themselves. 2nd lie Majority of russian forces are ethnic russians, very few are the minorities in the military forcer operating in ukriane. 3rd lie moscow has maneged to keep control over the region by simply being clever and allowing the locals to have a wide degree of autonomy and the locals themselves know that is 1000 times more beneficial to be in russia than to be a small insignificant unstable state same for the other republics in the region.
Hi Vlad, I really enjoy your channel! You have such a calm and articulate demeanour that I can better understand some extremely heavy topics listening to you with the sense of sitting in a cosy, safe lecture hall. For someone trying to balance staying informed with her mental health, you are a godsend.
To me what feels really disturbing, in addition to the pogrom itself, is that this was allowed to happen inside the secure area of the airport.. I've worked at an airport and security is always at the front of everyone's mind. An international airport like this can not allow a riot to break onto the tarmac. The secure zone around the airport has been totally compromised. Just think about dangerous things someone could get up to while sneaking in with the riots. So in my mind the authorities must have actively made the choice to compromise critical infrastructure to let the pogrom take place. They weren't just passively letting it happen, they are paying a significant cost to support it.
It would seem that the Dagestan local government turned more or less a blind eye to this and Moscow had to intervene after the international shitstorm was already rolling. And yes, I will not travel to Dagestan anytime soon, even though I'm not a Jew.
I’m suspicious that Putler intentionally provoked this extremism…so he could arrest them all and put them on the front, as cannon fodder in Ukraine. There were a lot of fit-looking men in those videos, and many have been arrested.
There's National Guard and FSB everywhere. There's half a million of national guard ready for action spread among the regions, right. Of course the pogrom reeks of an officially sanctioned form of expression, potentially even astroturfing. Even when authorities did clear the tarmac, they haven't threatened the mob unlike Navalny protests, they apparently just guided it out.
@@GreatgoatonFire What reputable carriers do you have in mind? Most international airlines no longer serve Russia at all. I doubt the airport is used by anyone but domestic airlines - which as you might remember fly a fleet largely stolen from Irish leasing companies and don't even get access to genuine replacement parts. Reputable Russian air travel had long sailed.
The Holocaust is taught in some depth in UK secondary schools, but I believe the Russian pogroms and the wider Nazi holocaust on the Eastern Front are generally not widely understood in the UK
@@ricardorodriguez5549 “In DeSantis’ Florida” It’s delusional to believe that a governor who has been in power for 3 years single handedly controls everything taught in the education system of Florida. Do you believe DeSantis somehow removed the pogroms from the curriculum? Without anyone hearing about it? Also, DeSantis is one of the most pro Israel politicians in America. I guess he is secretly an anti-semitic revisionist?
@@sumiland6445 I would be willing to wager, considering that Dennis Prager is Jewish and advocates against antisemitism, that he would not feel favorably about the pogroms. Just a WILD guess though. Haha!
This Pogrom was especially bone chilling if you know the history of Russian anti-semitism. The flavor of Russian anti-semitism has also amplified the horrors of the Holocaust despite soviet fight against the nazis. this type of conspiratorial blood libel anti-semitism is why so many collaborators from all over eastern Europe were the most violent, sadistic and efficent killers employed by the Nazis, Ukraine's own history of anti-semitism has it's deepest roots not from the nazis, but from Russia. and I find it ironic that this is the excuse that Putin used to invade Ukraine- to fight "Nazis". If the Molotov Ribbentrop pact was kept- you can be sure the Soviets would have enacted the final solutions themselves from Poland to Siberia.
I think of two literary references that compliment one another. "Before we are forgotten, we will be turned into kitsch. Kitsch is the stopover between being and oblivion" -Milan Kundera. And without a specific quote, I think of the characters in Ellie Wiesels Night. None of them thought the same thing of their suffering. None would agree on a single message that comes from it. To make the Holocaust into a single message is to turn it into kitsch, which would be more anachronistic than forgetting it entirely.
It amused me on Russian Media Monitor to see Dimitri Kiselyov describing Islam as a "native" religion to Russia, as opposed to an "implanted" religion in the West. Thus claiming Russia's religions and minorities are at peace. It seems like he was helping to whitewash this event. Russia's muslim populations are in Russia because they were conquered. And that legacy may see more events like this, which may well turn on the Russian state. It does raise an interesting aspect to the mentality of Russian Imperialism though; do they honestly see all their subject peoples and religions as "native" to Russia?
In the Russian language, there is a clear distinction between ethnic Russians ("Muscovites"/Slavs) and Russian citizens. Russky / Rossiaynin Some animals are more equal than others.
@@svr5423 interesting. A very subtle difference in language and terminology that allows for a hierarchy, as well as abuse and repression whenever Moscow deems it necessary. No wonder anti-semitic pogroms in Russia were possible in the 19th century, and no wonder they can claim with a straight face that Ukrainians are an "invented" or "made up" people.
I strongly agree with your shared sentiment about the shallowness of historical lessons. There are two references to this that immediately come to mind for me, and maybe not accidentally both from geman-jewish exile authors: the first is the fragment "Kunst zu erzählen" (Art to tell a story) by Walter Benjamin, where he talks about how, by interpreting a story, it is lost from being told, and disappears as shallow "information"; and the second one is Günther Anders' observation, that we "can produce that what we cant understand/represent" (dass wir herstellen können, was wir uns nicht vorstellen können), from his magnum opus "die Antiquiertheit des Menschen", and which he wrote in the 50s against the background of his exile in the US and the rising nuclear threat. - I think this is an important element of dealing with history - to not interpret it, make it into information, but in the opposite to tell the story and represent, picture it ("vorstellen" in the way Anders meant it - a kind of Heideggerianism against Heidegger). And obviously this can create many ways of looking at the world. For me, it created a kind of outlook I could describe as "melancholic realism" - not pessimism, but also not optimism, but most of all not cynicism, instead an understanding of the weight of decisions, and of the inertia, and the powerlessness against the inertia of forces that already started to move, and a kind of responsibility that stems from that, instead of the kind of utopianism present at both the beginning and the end of last century, that still persists in so many ways today in its moralistic expression.
Have you heatd of the political philosopher John Gray? What you said here, reminds me of a passage in an essay he wrote. He characterised the idealistic, almost religious ideology on both sides of the aisle as being utopian, because they ignore existant and constant qualities in human nature, that pre-empt any opportunity for their visions to become reality. In the meantime, we have to use the imperfect civil tools we have as politics, to tackle the unavoidable messiness of managing our polity, and strive against those, motivated by the worst angels of our nature, who would bulldoze its best elements for social and political capital. He believes that this struggle is eternal, and I'm inclined to agree. We will go back and forth, until bad ideas die their deserved death. It may be a symptom of the death throws of the old hierarchies, feeling threatened, and wsnting to turn the clock back. Of course, they will fail, but after their time, the ideas worth pursuing will be those that unite us rather than divide us. It's in his collection entitled "Gray's Anatomy: collected writings."
Indeed, your main point about history, it should be about facts, or lack of in some cases, not an interpretation or story or as often seen "a drama /story based on facts". This must always be the starting position when teaching or writing about history.
It's interesting for me to see how Vlad's analysis regarding the unscrupulous categorization of criticism towards Israel's actions as antisemitic aligns with Slavoj Zizek's recent speech at the Frankfurt Book Fair. To quote him, after being interrupted by a few German hecklers: „The moment you accept that it is not possible to fight for both sides at the same time, you have lost your soul.“
Distinguishing between anti-Zionism, anti-Israelism, and anti-semitism is crucial... and often difficult. The nuances of these consideration are utterly lost on the mob. These are niceties that can be debated in rarified circles of intelligent people, but translating that to the street is nearly impossible. It requires immense leadership, statesmanship even. When we have "leaders" like the current Secretary General of the U.N., the task seems impossible.
P'stine irredentism needs to be faced. The remnants of lost wars. Trouble where ever they go. The Hamas Charter and its Koran quote will give you a better sense. The Muslim Brotherhood allied with Hitler. Hamas is an offshoot of The Muslim Brotherhood. When faced with Nazis........... a nuanced discussion is very difficult.
Your idea about having an adequate relationship with the holocaust is fascinating, and important. Thank you. I realized it has been a background to my understanding of the world my whole life, and definitely a cornerstone of my thought about the Middle East, Israel, Arab anti-semitism (and American antisemitism). I am in Southern Europe at the moment, having a rather depressing experience in the many political conversations i'm having with old friends. It all seems to be a combination of spent leftism, surprising repressed colonial aspirations, and a shocking sympathy for Russia (??!), a disgusting lack of sympathy for Ukraine, generic self-centeredness, and a miasmic outpouring of fresh excuses for Hamas... Sigh. What is wrong with these people? So grateful that you sent some clarity on the contours of the very deep historic experience we mostly share.
There is no such thing as "Arab antisemitism" The Arabs act anti-semitic because they perceive the Jews as attacking the broader Muslim identity, which is why Dagestanis, who are not Arab in the slightest, think it's a good idea to go "hUnTiNg FoR tHe JeW" in Dagestan because of something happening in the middle east. It's not Arab anti-semitism, it's Islamic anti-semitism.
My experience in Italy has also been an unpleasant mix of Why don't those difficult Ukrainians just give them what they want already / it's all Nato's fault / Russia should not be provoked... all from the comfort of their country which is protected thanks to NATO and which they would never be willing to hand over a piece of to pacify russia (not that it would stop them from doing what they do for long). It is very disheartening to see how much of Europe really does not care. This comment section (other than the trolls) is a welcome assurance that I am not alone.
@@christinamuzzu6414nato protects them from who ? No really from who is nato protecting germany, france, italy, spain,etc. Almost all of europe has no reason to fear russia and to fight russia, now states like Poland thar have a historical Vendetta and cant just bury the hatchet like they did with the germans (guess you need to give them a few billions and they would shut up) or countries that have a boot up their a*s like the baltics and ukraine.
We are NOT pro Hamas no matter how many times you repeat that lie!!! We are PRO Palestinians NOT being slaughtered just like we are PRO Israelis NOT being slaughtered!!! This horrible “leftist” has been supporting Ukraine with monthly donations to specific soldiers that I’ve come to know via this horrific war!!! Anyone who doesn’t support Ukraine shouldn’t have a thing to say regarding Israel/Palestine!!! Do you consider all the Jewish people including families of Oct 7th victims who are calling for an end to this war insane and wrong as well??? Do you call them pro Hamas or antisemitic self hating Jews as many (maybe you) call anyone who supports the end of the slaughtering of innocent human beings???
I remember watching the Holocaust episode of The World at War and crying when I was a teenager. For a time, I'm ashamed to admit, I hated Germans because of it. I think what turned me around from that blind alley was the thought that it wasn't a problem of Germans. It wasn't even specifically fascism. It was human, the bit we don't like to recognise in ourselves. I'm trying to hold onto that thought as I read about the aftermath of the Hamas rampage, the pictures and stories of IDF bombings in Gaza. The history and cultures involved are highly relevant to why this keeps happening but at the root it's our humanity that causes horrors, not the lack thereof, as we so often say. It's so easy to write things off as evil but I'm not sure I even believe in the concept anymore.
This is is exactly correct and a big reason why I refuse to have children. The history will keep repeating itself over and over as lomg as there are humans.
@@AmberyTear We live in the least violent age in human history. More people are obese than starving. Life expectancy is at an all-time high. What has improved, improved because people strove for their ideals rather than curling up and giving in.
@@paulgibbon5991 Demonstrably true. Perhaps mass media can do good as well as ill. I know Vlad gave a warning on learning lessons from something as vast as the Holocaust, but maybe just knowing it happened is a lesson in-of itself.
Thank you for your perspective on the pogroms and the anti-semitism. Frankly my mind has been in chaos about it all and after dipping too many toes into the political chaos lately the life force went down. "A man's got to know his limitations" (Dirty Harry) It's been so very much to navigate. Really looking forward to tomorrow's (if the fates allow) "Integration" video. 🌻(An activist at heart I find it necessary to come here for course correction)
As for relationships with the holocaust, my gradmothers brother liberated Dachau camp in the war. He told me about it when I was a boy, before he died. It happened. And that is that.
Not only are Russia's pogroms barely taught in the Western World, but Russia's collaboration with Nazi Germany in the beginning of WW2 is barely taught. Most people don't know that Russia was best friends with Nazi Germany for the first 2 years of WW2 and that they BOTH invaded Poland together to start WW2.
Oh, the Molotov-Ribbentrop-Pact is well known, at least in Germany. Pro-Russian right wingers always dream of it being reinstated and dividing Eastern Europe between Germany and Russia.
The region of Poland that the USSR partitioned 1939 is modern day Belarus and Ukraine. The land was occupied by Poland in 1918 during Polish-Ukrainian War, so USSR took it back to protect Ukrainians and Belorussians from the Nazis as it didn't trust them.
@@bogdankondriuk5732wrong wrong wrong. That is factually incorrect and disingenuous of you to write The partition of Poland in 1939 was for the USSR part of their expansionist policy. The secret protocols of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact also included the definition of zones of influence, which lead to the USSR annexing the Baltic states. Remember also that the USSR also took parts of northern Romania. The Romanian government also shared the bizarre Judeo-Bolshevik theory, which lead to the largely ignored massacre of 40,000 - 50,000 Jews by Romanian forces BEFORE the einzatsgruppe started their holocaust by bullets in 1941.
"but Russia's collaboration with Nazi Germany in the beginning of WW2 is barely taught." Personally I think that is well known to anyone with the slightest interest in WWII, and I would be surprised if you or anyone can nominate any forum which teaches about WWII, which somehow obscures that.
I had a real shock a few years ago when chatting to a man in my gym ... he made it clear that he didn't believe it had happened. I had heard of holocaust deniers but never expected to meet one. I didn't feel ready to deal with such ignorance. After my shock lessened I managed to talk about lots of people I know whose families were affected by it. Personal testimonials. I hope this did some good. Be prepared is my advice.
You know, we Germans thought we found a few lessons from the Holocaust which are easy to memorize and don’t sound too stupid as a rough orientation, or point to start to think from. (But I’m too intimidated now to give you an elevator pitch.) They made it into the collective consciousness of at least western Germany and were poured into law, bureaucracy and education system. Everything was thoroughly therapeutically processed and memorized, it became a core part of the German state and identity.
Now today we suspect that it could be possible that we were left with slogans.
Germany learned a bunch from the holocaust, that's true. But the lessons are not all good. They also learned how to facilitate and legitimize Israel's occupation and apartheid in the Westbank, and its mass murder in Gaza. Don't think the world isn't aware of how the German people are now trying to wash off the sins of their fathers by using Palestinian blood.
@@feylezofriza There is no mass murder in Gaza caused by Israel. Have a look at what's going on in the Middle East. And go on crying about the golan heights. Maybe Syria shouldn't have started and lost that war.
We created a social environment in which it was not ok to spew racism & nazi views. People didn't refrain from it because they were changed, but because the tide had turned against them. I at least mistook this for actual change. The internet gave all those isolated & socially scorned far right people possibilities to connect, and so it was ok again to be a fascist, first among like-minded people, but more & more out in the open. There are some lessons there as well but I'm not sure I want to learn them.
@@feylezofrizamass murder??? Population of Gaza more than doubles in last 20 years! Kids are being used as hostages of their own parents to worship that bloody cult called Islam.. Brainwashed since childhood to hate Jews, infidels, gays.. Muslims hate and kill each other too. Much more than Israelis killing Palestinians! Where is the outrage of everyday honour killing in Pakistan, Afghanistan etc? Does Palestinian life with more than other murdered muslims, because it was done by Jews? It's insane! Israelis don't kill for fun, they kill for survival! Where have you seen raped and burnt 9 year old girls by Jews or any other religion except of Islam!?
Thanks to you I went out and bought a book by Avishai Margalit - I wouldn't have thought it possible that I would like books about philosophy but I am enjoying reading it and learning lots. Thanks
My impression of the lessons of the Holocaust is that those lessons have to include striving never to let a polity become polarized in a way analogous to how the Weimar Republic was in its last days, when the parties of the center lost most of their support. Our own polarization is even more worrisome in light of history than it would be just on a direct examination.
The end of Weimar was brought about by the conservative forces thinking they can utilise the nazis in their favour without sacrificing their power structure to them (very famously, von Papen said we will have Hitler pushed into a corner that he will squeak). They took a gamble and lost control. So, any time conservative forces are courting far-right ideology, it's a warning sign.
I have listened to this stuff for decades and it has become pathetically predictable...occupation, apartheid, genocide and now war crimes. I didn't even have to watch the news to know what trajectory this situation would take. What happened at this Russian airport doesn't surprise me. I just wonder what took so long. I read an article that said Russia was blaming Ukraine for the incident. Russia has a long history of antisemitism; it certainly doesn't need Ukraine's help. I'm so exhausted with all of this. These are real-life events with real-life consequences which we have lived with for decades. You handle analytical and philosophical aspects, I'm ready to get to the point.
What is also infuriating is that there has been this moderately successful attempt at driving the narrative that Israelis are settler colonialists on the left, and thus “white capitalists” and deserving to be “decolonized”. Which also no one will explain what that exactly means even though we know what that means. As an African-American person, I’m infuriated, because this fundamental misunderstanding of both one’s own history (referring to Black extremists) along with that of an entire different ethnic group’s history has yielded to a false history that has been a way for propagandists to get its way into the community and manipulate it to its own ends. The long and the short I would say Hamas has infiltrated the African-American community to a certain extent, and is using our collective trauma as a way to dehumanize Jewish people through otherizing. The link to Putin is here I suspect lies in the new narrative. I am hearing essentially instructing people of color to stay home instead of voting for Biden. Obviously, this would have a net negative affect to the community.
@@automaticjoe1that's because many Israelies are settler coloniolists in the most literal sense. I'm not gonna pretend anything excuses what happened on October 7th, but Israel by in large created the situation which created Hamas, i.e kicking people out of there land, abusing them, kiling them, not giving them the same rights as Israelies, and thwarting attempts at a permant solution either one or two state; they even deliberately favored Hamas over the PAO to that end. And in the same way what hamas did wasn't justified, what Israel has done and is doing isn't justified. Also where have you seen anyone, in US circles at least, actually supporting Hamas. Literally every piece I've seen reported as that has been just people condeming the actions of Israel.
I am German. The first thing I learned about the holocaust is about the millions being murdered in an industrially optimized way. Next: It's impossible to learn something from it, because it is incomparable worse than anything else ever happening. How can one use what one learned if there is nothing similar? But then against the odds I learned something useful. I learned, that there are people among us, whose families were mostly wiped out. I learned about their fear, them feeling insecure, where I have to fear nothing. And above everything else their speakers showed me how to deal with that situation without projecting hate, but by reminding us of what most of us want: Creating a society in which everyone may live according to one's own values in dignity. Fighting some evil does not yield something good, although being sometimes necessary. It's respecting the other's dignity which contributes to goodness. This is a point I missed concerning antisemitism. I think antisemitism is, among many other similarly destructive human concepts, a loss of the ability to perceive human dignity. I think Israel is destroying the foundations on which it's built, if it becomes something no longer able to perceive the dignity of Palestinians. And there will be no Palestinian state, if the Palestinians do not learn to respect the dignity of Israeli.
Deeply offended you didn't get the game in Dagestan right, Vlad. This was Borat's unpublished sequel, "The Running of the Jew." Putin hosted Hamas only last week. This is was part of Putin and the Kremlin's extended Hamas celebration.
With regard to our relationship to the holocaust I am reminded of this: “One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. The latter procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular.” Carl Jung
You've mentioned frequently how Putin likes to model himself after Tsar Alexander III, does this now also include mimicking Alexander III's infamous support of pogroms and anti-semitism?
Do you have any evidence that Alexander III supported pogroms?? I hear many people claim that he and Nicholas II supported them, but never any proof... And the more I read about them, their personality, the less I believe it.
@@hermanessences It's not hard to prove. He made many openly anti-Semitic comments, passed the 1882 May laws that restricted the rights of where Jews could live and work, and in 1891 almost all the Jews of Moscow were systematically deported. Given that he was an absolute monarch, having every Jew in his own city deported couldn't have possibly happened without his approval.
@@MoonThuli Are you serious?? The fact that he made "anti-semitic statements", whatever the hell that means, and instituted laws which temporarily limited Jews to certain sections of the empire obviously doesn't mean that he supported indiscriminate murder of Jewish people! This is the worst non sequitur I've ever seen, and it's a great example of how weak the anti-Romanov arguments tend to be.
I just saw a video clip of this at that airport and was HORRIFIED. It made me rethink my entire stance on the Israel/Gaza “conflict”. One can support the Israelis and the hostages and not support a far right government, and not be an antisemite. At the same time one can also support the Palestinians and not be sympathetic to Hamas and the horrible atrocities they committed and keep committing. It seems like saying ANYTHING about the Israeli government gets you called an anti semite, and then saying anything about Palestinians to certain groups of people gets you called a sympathizer to terrorists. It’s just so wrong.
Plenty of Israelis say things about government, even now. And while supporting Palestinians is all well and good, the people in the rallies waving Palestinian flags around while chanting "gas the Jews" and the tens of thousands of Muslims across the world who were celebrating the massacre on October 7th, are undoubtedly antisemites.
The normalization of violence is one of the factors in conflict escalation. And, it is what frightens the average person as they watch world events take on a life of their own, spiraling out of control. When animal instincts prevail, chaos ensues. Why is it that so often instability in the world can be traced back to Islam? Not always, but disproportionally so. And why, oh why, are we now seeing this worldwide convulsion of anti-semitism? There's a lot of piling on, once the floodgates of hate and violence were opened by Hamas.
Consider how the Islamic world got the way it is. Here's a clue; it was mostly the West screwing with them in the age of empires. Russia and England played the Great Game in Afghanistan, the UK and US deposed Iran's democratic movement to install a pliant Shah, the Partition meant that Pakistan was born in blood and religious hatred, and everyone dived in to help carve up the Ottoman Empire.
@@paulgibbon5991 You have to think how it was a few centuries before. Islam was a threat to Europe, they even conquered Spain. Later, they displaced Christians and Jews from their countries. Christianity is a religion that is originally native to the middle east. Abrahamic religions are bad in itself, but (political) islam simply is the worst. It produces unhappy people prone to violence that don't integrate well into open societies. And among the countries with the worst performance indicators on earth, political islam as a form of government is dominant.
This little chain of Rocky isles in the North Sea, those folks got around. Some say they made a bit of a mess of things here and there while building an empire whose reverberations occasionally pop up in global conflict these days 😉 But nah, definitely tribal nomads in the desert have been spoiling the general tranquility...
I'm sorry, but "the floodgates of hate and violence" were not opened by Hamas, but by Israel. Listen to what Moshe Dayan said in his 1956 eulogy to an Israeli settler who was murdered by a Palestinian refugee: "Let us not cast the blame on the murderers today. Why should we [decry] their burning hatred for us? For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate."
Mentioning Borat, I'm seeing both sides singing their own songs. "Throw the Jew down the well" and "Throw the Palestinian down the well." The sides are like the Hatfields and the McCoys, engaged like scorpions in a blood feud. My grandparents were Holocaust Survivors. This was because they didn't live in Europe and weren't Jewish. There is another phenomenon, postjudice, not liking a person after meeting them. Both sides are irritating because all they talk about is their feud. Great Britain put two cats in a bag and sailed away.
Is there an organization somewhere that works for a long-term peace in the Middle East that respects the human rights of all the civilians involved? I live in Berlin and I'm just so tired of this conflict flaring up again and again and spilling over into our streets. I don't want to demonstrate with Hamas sympathizers or with the "Carte blanche for Israel" troupe, but I do want to put pressure on governments to finally work towards a solution. This just can't go on.
This is thoughtful. I think the southern Caucuses are more relevant to finding solutions for us than the N Caucuses. And i think we need to do something to guarantee Armenia and improve relations with Turkey. And theres a crisis in Kurdish Iraq and Syria thats developing .
"river to the sea" has very forceful proponents who assert there is no implication that the state of Israel need be abolished. I have seen it used in an extremely anti-semetic way though. Not only does that mean I cannot use the phrase in any space without cumbersome clarifying statements, I worry that it will entrench people into positions that misidentify their opponents as enemies.
"Free Palestine" is a war cry to establish a state in the western part of the former Palestinian mandate and exterminate or at least displace jews to achieve this. It's a "sloganification" of the goals stated by the Hamas Covenant (1988) and Charter (2017) and was carefully chosen because "Kill the Jews" has some negative historic connotations. Yes, even Palestinians nowadays are politically correct to some extent.
I'm one of those proponents, but I also feel the same way about using that and a couple other slogans. At this point, too many people are convinced it means something dreadful to be able to use it easily in most public spaces. If we want to communicate effectively, we have to consider how our words will fall on people's ears. It is what it is.
(potentialy state supported) Pogromes had been ugly common ocurances at the end of the tsarist rule. Therefore i asume this one is a further sign of further destabilisation of the current Regime.
I am at min 20 now and you are talking about the difference between psychological/personal and political antisemitism (if I got you right) what is shining a light on what we both disagree on (disagree as an labour hypothesis anyway): While it is very possible to "fight" personal antisemitism with (therapeutical) talking (at a table) it is impossible to fight political antisemitism (the person won't listen).
You have the most relaxing voice Vlad! I love listening to your opinions about philosophy. You always have me rapt with attention!! Well done as always! ❤
Thank you Vlad for you thoughtful, careful, balanced and deliberate navigation of what is surely one of the most complex social and political situations in the world today.
I appreciate these short chats focused on processing these anxious times. All the moving parts seem random,but somehow connected. Looking forward to your upcoming video drop.Love and appreciation. ♥🌍🤔
Vlad, you see, that's why I love you ❤. You must be one of few (that I see) supporters of Israel that allow criticism. I don't discuss Israel-Palestine because even statements containing the 'State of Israel' are very suddenly antisemitic. I am not an antisemite. You'll have to trust me, but I'm not. I'm not fond of being called one. And in certain conversations, Israeli and Jewish..... have shifting meanings that suit one side of the conversation and leave me baffled. Keep on keeping on 👍
Have you ever thought that one of the real main causes of antisemitism is envy. 1 - envy for a people that achieved so much not just economically, but intellectually, scientif8cally and etc, even been a persecuted minority and against all odds? 2 - envy for constructing a country completely different from the rest of the middle east 3 - envy for the love of life and not death 4 - envy for the cultural influence in the west
I think you might be onto something there. My mum worked for a family of orthodox jews in London, they ate what was christmas food to us, pickled herring, my favorite thing by far, every day, for breakfast, the bastards!
Thanks Vlad,looking forward to your new video.. I think I know what your saying here,but im too tired to try and explain more.. I remember once when very young my dad was watching a history programme on in the background, I glanced up from my comics or something that I was laying on floor reading to see old pictures of the concentration camps just liberated by the British ..utterly perplexed, what were they doing to us?! .. just for being people! , I then looked at my dad, my expression on my small childs face must have said it all.. omnipotent parents face looked back at me and I remember because he didn't look omnipotent anymore, frozen ashen faced he looked liked he wanted to explain but couldn't to a small child,and involuntarily gave a small shrug with an expression of great sadness .. how do you explain without the segration of this group and that group of people and so on.. we didn't discuss let the programme finish and I went back to my childish preoccupations.. but it stayed with me it was beyond me and I think for my dad too..
'He who save one life saves the world entire.' The compassion illustrated in that film is a powerful one. It is a historical lesson, that applied not only to what Jews were once subjected to, but to all human life - Muslim, Jew, or Gentile alike. The barbarism we see in the world must end.
I live in Australia and have always found the Israel/Jewish issue difficult to traverse. I love Jews. I have Jewish friends and they are the salt of the earth. Many years ago, I said something negative about the position of Israel in relation to a conflict in Gaza, or maybe something which was happening in the West Bank. My neighbour was Jewish but I didn't know this. He said to me,''I thought you were a good guy''. Later, when I found he was Jewish, I felt terrible for my , I thought , rather mild remark. It is a fine and difficult line to tread between talking about an issue and being perceived as anti-semitic.
The Hamas Charter and its Koran quote will give you a better sense. The Muslim Brotherhood allied with Hitler. Hamas is an offshoot of The Muslim Brotherhood.
@@accesscrimeaI disagree - any statement that expresses genuine love for any group (or individual) can never be “cringe.” Now - emotionally distanced irony or inauthentic expressions - THAT’S cringe…
Great video. Had to stop a couple of times to absorb your comments, you always have food for toughts, but in this ocassion, I may need to revisit it. Loads of personal experiences and people and places and long political discussions came to mind. Looking forward to you video tomorrow.
The problem with the discussion around the Holocaust is whether it was about Jews or about the ethical limits to state violence during war. If it was about Jews, then it becomes subjective, it goes down the rabbit hole of how do we apportion blame to Jews or exonerate them, and furthermore what is a Jew anyways, and eventually you have pure subjective value judgments based on one's own feelings, and are standing on air instead of solid ground. Everything that's wrong with the Holocaust narrative can be traced to that problem. Only by universalizing the entire issue to make it apply to the fundamental inhumanity of man to his fellow man, and the mystification of state violence by irrational means, do we begin to see the depths of its evil and perpetual recurrence.
I’ve been spat at, harassed, and called “Jew pig” here in Seattle multiple times since this thing kicked off. I’m very nervous when I leave the house. I don’t hate anyone. I don’t hate anyone for their faith or gender or anything. I hate being hated.
Would like to see a video with your thoughts on the Israeli delegation at the UN pinning Holocaust camp stars on their chests to try and brush aside criticism of Israel.
They cry Holocaust at every turn. It may be understandable, there is great trauma there, but I think it is detrimental to Israeli society to build so much on that. Trauma is not a good raison d'etre.
The one thing that pisses me off about Israel is they say everyone who critisises their state policy makes that person anti-semetic. Rubbish. Critisism of state policy does NOT make anyone some kind of religious bigot. I don't agree with their political decisions but how does that make me hate my Jewish friends? Bollox.
Israel has enormously dedicated political opposition inside the country expressed in months of protests. Unfortunately the Israeli right is against taking criticism from anyone with any sense, even when they're other jews. That said, the I have Jewish Friends argument isn't going to get you very far.
You cannot explain it. I live in a place where religious freedoms exist. I grew up in north London. Golders Green had their shops open Sunday and their shops shut Saturday. So what? Who is bothered? Not me sunshine.@@theearthadorned
So much for the "Russians hunting Nazis in Ukraine" narrative, right?😏... I mean, that narrative was doomed from day one, given the sheer brutality of the Russian forces and Wagner... Besides: Naming your band of mercenaries after Wagner actually makes certain things pretty clear anyways, so🤷♂...
I am intrigued by the notion that Russia has any sort of (good) reputation anywhere, anyhow, any way. Though surely Russian anti-semitism plays very well in Iran.
It's not a 1-to-1 comparison which works directly, however, for its entire existence, Northern Ireland has been plagued by the question of whether its existence is legitimate. Peace was achieved by blurring the question.
Thanks for making me laugh Vlad. And some interesting analysis. I do find it bizarre that when Asad slaughtered civilians in Syria in an attempt to destroy ISIS the international community generally rightly condemned it. I am not sure this is ethically different even if the history might make it seem so.
Thank you very much, Vlad. Looking forward to the video, but not sure, if you can top the overcooked rigatoni. Take good care of yourself - lots of love, listen to you tomorrow. 🇺🇦 Заради життя кожного українця! 🇺🇦
Lessons from the Holocaust need not be only universal. There are very particular ones. For Jews. Never let your security be dependent on others. Come to think of it, that's also quite universal...
Thank you for caring about us. I don't feel disoriented by recent events. I feel fine, and I have been feeling fine for the better part of last year - and you deserve a great deal of credit for that. Even though you focus on political philosophy, I find that I can apply a lot of what I learn from you to my personal life, to great effect.
Sorry Vlad on the contrary we never stop talking about the holocaust, UK children go in plane loads to Poland and visit Auzwitz.. what we don't talk about or deal with is the 2 state solution.. Getting the US and EU to force Israel to a settlement.. The same as the US forced the UK to settle the Good Friday agreement and still give the UK government notice if it doesn't keep it.
i said this in reply to my other comment but i'll say this separately too because i think this is important: the river to the sea thing, despite being kind of poor communication, is widely misunderstood. what it means is, palestinians, especially young ones, dream of being able to stand on and live in the land from the river of the sea, without threat of being shot and killed. it actually has nothing to do with some sort of ethnic palestinian state as some seem to believe. but based on how israel views the conflict and how most people seem to view that stance as valid, that slogan has a very different meaning to most.
Have you looked at the textbooks used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip? They talk about driving the Jews into the sea. That is what the young people are being taught.
@@shannonjane7373 well, if you look at the textbooks and rhetoric people in israel learn and disseminate, they’re incredibly genocidal towards palestinians. there’s simply no debate over that. and there’s also a pretty big cultural divide between the west bank and gaza. but just because people feel genocidal, it doesn’t mean genocide actually needs to happen. if forced to, even through peaceful means such as civil legislation, people can change over time. people changed in south africa, did they not? their problems there are more economic than anything, even with whatever ethnic strife there is. the fact is, this isn’t an impossible problem to solve. it’s just one that has only ever had a military and apartheid solution applied. no alternative has ever even been attempted. you can’t just say it’s impossible.
@@shannonjane7373 another example: nazi germany. is germany run by nazis today? have there been massive ethnic cleansing campaigns carried out by their state recently? no, because people can change. nazi society gave way to modern german society.
It’s a massive, disgusting projection on the Zionist side to spin “Free Palestine from the river to the sea” as something remotely anti-semitic or even worse as a call for a genocide.
We should not talk about the holocaust more or differently than other comparable acts of genocide, eg Armenia, Assyria, Cambodia, the Holdomor, the cultural revolution, etc.... Also we should not talk about the holocaust as if the European jews were the only or the worst victims of it, the Sindi gypsy community were, and other targeted groups including red army political officers were killed in greater proportions. The Holocaust is in no way an excuse for the wholesale muder and robbery commited against the Palestinian people.
Like all people forced to live under the russian yoke, i used to have a lot of sympathy for the dagestani people. But if this is a ssmple of the type of people that lives there, they deserve to live under the russian regime, under putin's empire. This kind of barbararism is utterly unacceptable.
"Highlanders" by Yo'av Karny is an interesting examination of the region, including its little known Jewish population history. Many years since I read it...
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As the Grandson of a Nazi child soldier who thankfully surrendered to the Dutch, and a Nazi child slave/servant who courageously fled into the woods - I have spent, and will spend, my entire life reflecting on the horrors of WW2, war in general, history, geopolitics, and the human condition.
As always, thank you for your insights!
Much love for our beautiful community.
Were the refugees on the plane being targeted because they are Jewish or because they are Israeli. THE DIFFERENCE IS HUGE!! The PALESTINIAN flag is not anti-semitic! This is absurd. You have made the word "anti-semitic" have no value when you use it to defend the rights of Israel to steal land and commit genocide, ethnic cleansing, create apartheid and genocide. You are claiming that anyone who speaks out against the actions of 🇮🇱 or Zionist propaganda is anti-semitic. That is insane. Sorry Vlad, but this is absurd!
I can imagine how desperate those fleeing Israelis on the plane must have been quite desperate to seek refuge in Russia. Obviously I don't condone the aggressive Russians choosing that way to protest - but you claim that the 🇵🇸 flag is anti-semitic. That is false. The Russians were upset that the Israeli settlers/colonists were fleeing when the 🇵🇸 were being genocided, ethnically cleansed, massacred and weren't allowed to flee. There is nothing anti-semitic about any of that.
Now the horrific terrorist actions of the apartheid fascist 🇮🇱 regime and zionist propaganda is no excuse to resort to racist slurs against Jewish ppl. Judaism is not about war crimes, genocide or this fascist ZIONISM or apartheid. Many Jewish are in fact against the zionist propaganda and against 🇮🇱. Here 🇺🇲 they are the most active protesters and getting arrested for pro-🇵🇸 protesting.
YOU JUST CALLED SASCHA BARON COHEN ANTI-SEMITIC. Yeah, sorry Vlad, I am out. Best of luck on getting yourself deprogrammed from all that 🇮🇱 zionist propaganda. SASCHA calls out prejudices with his work. His work on Who Is America with portraying a MOSAD(sp?) agent was very powerful. Apparently you don't get it. His work actually exposes the prejudices and ridiculousness of people.
I am of Eastern European Jewish heritage. Just before I was born, my father changed our surname. When, in my teens, I asked him why, he said 'To protect you'. I didn't understand at the time. I do now.
Same
@@jewelianwest2324 🧡
kinda same, i was given my mother's non jewish, eastern european surname instead of my dad's jewish one to protect me. And just today my dad told me not to tell people about my jewish heritage as a precaution given what's going on
@@sceptic39 I completely understand. Once, for my father, it became about protecting his daughter, he knew he had to change his name, as he knew that danger was still very real. 🧡
I am so sorry. It's crazy. I don't know what to say.
Glad you brought up the point about Russia repeatedly threatening violence and death against the entire world unless everyone backs down to them and gives them whatever they want - aside from everything else, that alone says everything you need to know about not only Putin’s Russia, but everyone who still supports them.
"repeatedly" for example?
@@EvgeniyYakushev-m2u Watch Rossija 1. Especially Solovyov.
Is he important ? I dont think so not really.
When has russia done this, the warning has always been clear.
If russia is threatened she will not fear using her large nuclear arsenal
That is a warning any potential aggressor its not a threat to the world. Western powers on the other hand repeatedly threaten countries around the world if they dont fall in line with the status quo, first economic bullying then military action.
Russianity is a mental disorder far more advanced and disruptive than say, Americanity or perhaps even than Israelity.
I totally mentioned Borat this morning this morning in regards to this. Like if someone phoned me and said, "Let's get the Jews at the airport," I would think it was a bad Eastern European comedy skit.
It was that bad yes! I had to work hard to hold back my Borat impression!
Dagestan ain't Kazakhstan, moron.
Dagestan is peculiar in that none of its 81 distinct "nationalities" is dominant. These nationalities speak many mutually incomprehensible languages, so Russian is the de facto language of government, though ethnic Russians are only 3.3% of the population. Outside of the small capital city, where ethnicities mix, each ethnic group inhabits some particular mountain valley and has nothing to do with the next door mountain valleys. The total population is a bit more than 3.1 million. About 83% are Muslims, with Sunni Islam of the Shafi'i school being the largest group. There was once a substantial community of Jews, including the culturally distinct "Mountain Jews" who had been there for more than two and a half thousand years, but almost all of them migrated to Israel when the Soviet Union dissolved. There are a handful left. Dagestan is among the poorest and most corrupt republics in the Russian Federation, and it is one of the biggest sources of "meat" for Putin's Grinder. The black market has always been larger than the "regular" economy. With no real cultural cohesion and plenty of rivalries and grievances, Moscow has been able to keep control of this fractious republic by the simple expedient of divide and conquer. The situation is quite different from that of Chechnya.
>> so Russian is the de facto language of government
Besides Russian, there is another communication language -- Avarian.
Almost anybody in Daghestan understands it.
@@РусланЗаурбеков-з6е Thanks for that valuable information. I did not know that Avar has so many speakers who have it as a second language. I did know that it is the only one of the Daghestani languages with a substantial published literature.
I have to admit I know little of this Russian republic, but it was interesting reading that brief synopsis. Thank you
Thank you. Didn't know this.
Lets address your 1st lie
Relative to other regions using the HDI they are poorer however international their HDI is comparable to the average of Brunei so the place isnt poor. Poor is a very broad term, somebody who lives a simple life like the old believers would be counted as a poor person even though the individual has chosen that life themselves.
2nd lie
Majority of russian forces are ethnic russians, very few are the minorities in the military forcer operating in ukriane.
3rd lie moscow has maneged to keep control over the region by simply being clever and allowing the locals to have a wide degree of autonomy and the locals themselves know that is 1000 times more beneficial to be in russia than to be a small insignificant unstable state same for the other republics in the region.
Bless you, Vlad for bringing up Borat. Glad to know that I was not alone in thinking that when I read this news.
Bless you back!
@@VladVexlerChatGreat success!
Yep, when I saw the footage Borat sprang immediately to mind. Thankfully it seems there were no wells in the vicinity.
@@Cocoisagordonsetter Very like the people he portrayed.
@@Cocoisagordonsetter I think he was holding up a mirror and it wasn't always comfortable to look in that mirror.
Hi Vlad, I really enjoy your channel! You have such a calm and articulate demeanour that I can better understand some extremely heavy topics listening to you with the sense of sitting in a cosy, safe lecture hall. For someone trying to balance staying informed with her mental health, you are a godsend.
Thank you so much for being here!
To me what feels really disturbing, in addition to the pogrom itself, is that this was allowed to happen inside the secure area of the airport..
I've worked at an airport and security is always at the front of everyone's mind.
An international airport like this can not allow a riot to break onto the tarmac.
The secure zone around the airport has been totally compromised. Just think about dangerous things someone could get up to while sneaking in with the riots.
So in my mind the authorities must have actively made the choice to compromise critical infrastructure to let the pogrom take place.
They weren't just passively letting it happen, they are paying a significant cost to support it.
It would seem that the Dagestan local government turned more or less a blind eye to this and Moscow had to intervene after the international shitstorm was already rolling.
And yes, I will not travel to Dagestan anytime soon, even though I'm not a Jew.
@@svr5423 Any reputable airline should stop using that airport full stop. Even just refuelling.
I’m suspicious that Putler intentionally provoked this extremism…so he could arrest them all and put them on the front, as cannon fodder in Ukraine. There were a lot of fit-looking men in those videos, and many have been arrested.
There's National Guard and FSB everywhere. There's half a million of national guard ready for action spread among the regions, right. Of course the pogrom reeks of an officially sanctioned form of expression, potentially even astroturfing. Even when authorities did clear the tarmac, they haven't threatened the mob unlike Navalny protests, they apparently just guided it out.
@@GreatgoatonFire What reputable carriers do you have in mind? Most international airlines no longer serve Russia at all. I doubt the airport is used by anyone but domestic airlines - which as you might remember fly a fleet largely stolen from Irish leasing companies and don't even get access to genuine replacement parts. Reputable Russian air travel had long sailed.
The Holocaust is taught in some depth in UK secondary schools, but I believe the Russian pogroms and the wider Nazi holocaust on the Eastern Front are generally not widely understood in the UK
It’s barely taught at all in DeSantis’ Florida
@@ricardorodriguez5549i bet! What does PragerU say about it? 😖
@@ricardorodriguez5549 “In DeSantis’ Florida” It’s delusional to believe that a governor who has been in power for 3 years single handedly controls everything taught in the education system of Florida. Do you believe DeSantis somehow removed the pogroms from the curriculum? Without anyone hearing about it? Also, DeSantis is one of the most pro Israel politicians in America. I guess he is secretly an anti-semitic revisionist?
Russia history is not really taught at all.. or is it? So how and when would they cover the Pogroms in the Russian Empire?!?
@@sumiland6445 I would be willing to wager, considering that Dennis Prager is Jewish and advocates against antisemitism, that he would not feel favorably about the pogroms. Just a WILD guess though. Haha!
I think its worth noting that Egypt and other Arab countries refused Palistinians entry.
Well if we are talking about the holocaust then European refugees were refused by the US in the 1930s. Does that mean they were inferior?
... and if you asked why and if there's a history to that, you'll be accused of all sorts of things.
This Pogrom was especially bone chilling if you know the history of Russian anti-semitism. The flavor of Russian anti-semitism has also amplified the horrors of the Holocaust despite soviet fight against the nazis. this type of conspiratorial blood libel anti-semitism is why so many collaborators from all over eastern Europe were the most violent, sadistic and efficent killers employed by the Nazis, Ukraine's own history of anti-semitism has it's deepest roots not from the nazis, but from Russia. and I find it ironic that this is the excuse that Putin used to invade Ukraine- to fight "Nazis". If the Molotov Ribbentrop pact was kept- you can be sure the Soviets would have enacted the final solutions themselves from Poland to Siberia.
Name the cities in which the so-called “Russian” pogroms took place.
You are so sweet Vlad for sharing the pride you feel for the community. So much empathy coming through the screen. Thank you and do take care
I think of two literary references that compliment one another. "Before we are forgotten, we will be turned into kitsch. Kitsch is the stopover between being and oblivion" -Milan Kundera. And without a specific quote, I think of the characters in Ellie Wiesels Night. None of them thought the same thing of their suffering. None would agree on a single message that comes from it. To make the Holocaust into a single message is to turn it into kitsch, which would be more anachronistic than forgetting it entirely.
Fascinating idea I'd never heard it framed in such a way but I agree.
It amused me on Russian Media Monitor to see Dimitri Kiselyov describing Islam as a "native" religion to Russia, as opposed to an "implanted" religion in the West. Thus claiming Russia's religions and minorities are at peace.
It seems like he was helping to whitewash this event. Russia's muslim populations are in Russia because they were conquered. And that legacy may see more events like this, which may well turn on the Russian state.
It does raise an interesting aspect to the mentality of Russian Imperialism though; do they honestly see all their subject peoples and religions as "native" to Russia?
In the Russian language, there is a clear distinction between ethnic Russians ("Muscovites"/Slavs) and Russian citizens.
Russky / Rossiaynin
Some animals are more equal than others.
@@svr5423 interesting. A very subtle difference in language and terminology that allows for a hierarchy, as well as abuse and repression whenever Moscow deems it necessary. No wonder anti-semitic pogroms in Russia were possible in the 19th century, and no wonder they can claim with a straight face that Ukrainians are an "invented" or "made up" people.
I strongly agree with your shared sentiment about the shallowness of historical lessons. There are two references to this that immediately come to mind for me, and maybe not accidentally both from geman-jewish exile authors: the first is the fragment "Kunst zu erzählen" (Art to tell a story) by Walter Benjamin, where he talks about how, by interpreting a story, it is lost from being told, and disappears as shallow "information"; and the second one is Günther Anders' observation, that we "can produce that what we cant understand/represent" (dass wir herstellen können, was wir uns nicht vorstellen können), from his magnum opus "die Antiquiertheit des Menschen", and which he wrote in the 50s against the background of his exile in the US and the rising nuclear threat. - I think this is an important element of dealing with history - to not interpret it, make it into information, but in the opposite to tell the story and represent, picture it ("vorstellen" in the way Anders meant it - a kind of Heideggerianism against Heidegger). And obviously this can create many ways of looking at the world. For me, it created a kind of outlook I could describe as "melancholic realism" - not pessimism, but also not optimism, but most of all not cynicism, instead an understanding of the weight of decisions, and of the inertia, and the powerlessness against the inertia of forces that already started to move, and a kind of responsibility that stems from that, instead of the kind of utopianism present at both the beginning and the end of last century, that still persists in so many ways today in its moralistic expression.
Have you heatd of the political philosopher John Gray? What you said here, reminds me of a passage in an essay he wrote. He characterised the idealistic, almost religious ideology on both sides of the aisle as being utopian, because they ignore existant and constant qualities in human nature, that pre-empt any opportunity for their visions to become reality. In the meantime, we have to use the imperfect civil tools we have as politics, to tackle the unavoidable messiness of managing our polity, and strive against those, motivated by the worst angels of our nature, who would bulldoze its best elements for social and political capital. He believes that this struggle is eternal, and I'm inclined to agree. We will go back and forth, until bad ideas die their deserved death. It may be a symptom of the death throws of the old hierarchies, feeling threatened, and wsnting to turn the clock back. Of course, they will fail, but after their time, the ideas worth pursuing will be those that unite us rather than divide us. It's in his collection entitled "Gray's Anatomy: collected writings."
Indeed, your main point about history, it should be about facts, or lack of in some cases, not an interpretation or story or as often seen "a drama /story based on facts". This must always be the starting position when teaching or writing about history.
It's interesting for me to see how Vlad's analysis regarding the unscrupulous categorization of criticism towards Israel's actions as antisemitic aligns with Slavoj Zizek's recent speech at the Frankfurt Book Fair. To quote him, after being interrupted by a few German hecklers: „The moment you accept that it is not possible to fight for both sides at the same time, you have lost your soul.“
Read the Hamas Charter quotes from the Koran and then tell me who needs the criticism more desperately? We are in desperate times.
My heart is bleeding.
Much love, looking forward to tomorrow’s video.
Distinguishing between anti-Zionism, anti-Israelism, and anti-semitism is crucial... and often difficult. The nuances of these consideration are utterly lost on the mob. These are niceties that can be debated in rarified circles of intelligent people, but translating that to the street is nearly impossible. It requires immense leadership, statesmanship even. When we have "leaders" like the current Secretary General of the U.N., the task seems impossible.
P'stine irredentism needs to be faced. The remnants of lost wars. Trouble where ever they go.
The Hamas Charter and its Koran quote will give you a better sense.
The Muslim Brotherhood allied with Hitler.
Hamas is an offshoot of The Muslim Brotherhood.
When faced with Nazis........... a nuanced discussion is very difficult.
Your idea about having an adequate relationship with the holocaust is fascinating, and important. Thank you. I realized it has been a background to my understanding of the world my whole life, and definitely a cornerstone of my thought about the Middle East, Israel, Arab anti-semitism (and American antisemitism). I am in Southern Europe at the moment, having a rather depressing experience in the many political conversations i'm having with old friends. It all seems to be a combination of spent leftism, surprising repressed colonial aspirations, and a shocking sympathy for Russia (??!), a disgusting lack of sympathy for Ukraine, generic self-centeredness, and a miasmic outpouring of fresh excuses for Hamas... Sigh. What is wrong with these people? So grateful that you sent some clarity on the contours of the very deep historic experience we mostly share.
There is no such thing as "Arab antisemitism"
The Arabs act anti-semitic because they perceive the Jews as attacking the broader Muslim identity, which is why Dagestanis, who are not Arab in the slightest, think it's a good idea to go "hUnTiNg FoR tHe JeW" in Dagestan because of something happening in the middle east.
It's not Arab anti-semitism, it's Islamic anti-semitism.
My experience in Italy has also been an unpleasant mix of Why don't those difficult Ukrainians just give them what they want already / it's all Nato's fault / Russia should not be provoked...
all from the comfort of their country which is protected thanks to NATO and which they would never be willing to hand over a piece of to pacify russia (not that it would stop them from doing what they do for long).
It is very disheartening to see how much of Europe really does not care.
This comment section (other than the trolls) is a welcome assurance that I am not alone.
Lack of sympathy for ukraine ohhh man cant imagine why that is.
@@christinamuzzu6414nato protects them from who ? No really from who is nato protecting germany, france, italy, spain,etc. Almost all of europe has no reason to fear russia and to fight russia, now states like Poland thar have a historical Vendetta and cant just bury the hatchet like they did with the germans (guess you need to give them a few billions and they would shut up) or countries that have a boot up their a*s like the baltics and ukraine.
We are NOT pro Hamas no matter how many times you repeat that lie!!! We are PRO Palestinians NOT being slaughtered just like we are PRO Israelis NOT being slaughtered!!! This horrible “leftist” has been supporting Ukraine with monthly donations to specific soldiers that I’ve come to know via this horrific war!!! Anyone who doesn’t support Ukraine shouldn’t have a thing to say regarding Israel/Palestine!!! Do you consider all the Jewish people including families of Oct 7th victims who are calling for an end to this war insane and wrong as well??? Do you call them pro Hamas or antisemitic self hating Jews as many (maybe you) call anyone who supports the end of the slaughtering of innocent human beings???
I remember watching the Holocaust episode of The World at War and crying when I was a teenager. For a time, I'm ashamed to admit, I hated Germans because of it.
I think what turned me around from that blind alley was the thought that it wasn't a problem of Germans. It wasn't even specifically fascism. It was human, the bit we don't like to recognise in ourselves. I'm trying to hold onto that thought as I read about the aftermath of the Hamas rampage, the pictures and stories of IDF bombings in Gaza.
The history and cultures involved are highly relevant to why this keeps happening but at the root it's our humanity that causes horrors, not the lack thereof, as we so often say. It's so easy to write things off as evil but I'm not sure I even believe in the concept anymore.
This is is exactly correct and a big reason why I refuse to have children. The history will keep repeating itself over and over as lomg as there are humans.
@@AmberyTear We live in the least violent age in human history. More people are obese than starving. Life expectancy is at an all-time high. What has improved, improved because people strove for their ideals rather than curling up and giving in.
@@paulgibbon5991 Demonstrably true. Perhaps mass media can do good as well as ill.
I know Vlad gave a warning on learning lessons from something as vast as the Holocaust, but maybe just knowing it happened is a lesson in-of itself.
The Hamas Charter quotes from the Koran. Read it and then tell me the calls for murder and mass murder are not evil.
German here. Yeah, we're just ordinary folk. And did what we did. That's the really scary lesson to be learned.
Thank you for your perspective on the pogroms and the anti-semitism. Frankly my mind has been in chaos about it all and after dipping too many toes into the political chaos lately the life force went down. "A man's got to know his limitations" (Dirty Harry) It's been so very much to navigate. Really looking forward to tomorrow's (if the fates allow) "Integration" video. 🌻(An activist at heart I find it necessary to come here for course correction)
The world is blessed to have you in it.🙏🏻
Thank you!
As for relationships with the holocaust, my gradmothers brother liberated Dachau camp in the war. He told me about it when I was a boy, before he died. It happened. And that is that.
Not only are Russia's pogroms barely taught in the Western World, but Russia's collaboration with Nazi Germany in the beginning of WW2 is barely taught. Most people don't know that Russia was best friends with Nazi Germany for the first 2 years of WW2 and that they BOTH invaded Poland together to start WW2.
Oh, the Molotov-Ribbentrop-Pact is well known, at least in Germany. Pro-Russian right wingers always dream of it being reinstated and dividing Eastern Europe between Germany and Russia.
*USSR
The region of Poland that the USSR partitioned 1939 is modern day Belarus and Ukraine. The land was occupied by Poland in 1918 during Polish-Ukrainian War, so USSR took it back to protect Ukrainians and Belorussians from the Nazis as it didn't trust them.
@@bogdankondriuk5732wrong wrong wrong. That is factually incorrect and disingenuous of you to write
The partition of Poland in 1939 was for the USSR part of their expansionist policy. The secret protocols of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact also included the definition of zones of influence, which lead to the USSR annexing the Baltic states.
Remember also that the USSR also took parts of northern Romania. The Romanian government also shared the bizarre Judeo-Bolshevik theory, which lead to the largely ignored massacre of 40,000 - 50,000 Jews by Romanian forces BEFORE the einzatsgruppe started their holocaust by bullets in 1941.
"but Russia's collaboration with Nazi Germany in the beginning of WW2 is barely taught."
Personally I think that is well known to anyone with the slightest interest in WWII, and I would be surprised if you or anyone can nominate any forum which teaches about WWII, which somehow obscures that.
I had a real shock a few years ago when chatting to a man in my gym ... he made it clear that he didn't believe it had happened. I had heard of holocaust deniers but never expected to meet one. I didn't feel ready to deal with such ignorance. After my shock lessened I managed to talk about lots of people I know whose families were affected by it. Personal testimonials. I hope this did some good. Be prepared is my advice.
I feel like everyday it gets worse somehow
You know, we Germans thought we found a few lessons from the Holocaust which are easy to memorize and don’t sound too stupid as a rough orientation, or point to start to think from. (But I’m too intimidated now to give you an elevator pitch.)
They made it into the collective consciousness of at least western Germany and were poured into law, bureaucracy and education system. Everything was thoroughly therapeutically processed and memorized, it became a core part of the German state and identity.
Now today we suspect that it could be possible that we were left with slogans.
Germany learned a bunch from the holocaust, that's true. But the lessons are not all good. They also learned how to facilitate and legitimize Israel's occupation and apartheid in the Westbank, and its mass murder in Gaza. Don't think the world isn't aware of how the German people are now trying to wash off the sins of their fathers by using Palestinian blood.
Harsh but true.
@@feylezofriza There is no mass murder in Gaza caused by Israel.
Have a look at what's going on in the Middle East.
And go on crying about the golan heights. Maybe Syria shouldn't have started and lost that war.
We created a social environment in which it was not ok to spew racism & nazi views. People didn't refrain from it because they were changed, but because the tide had turned against them. I at least mistook this for actual change. The internet gave all those isolated & socially scorned far right people possibilities to connect, and so it was ok again to be a fascist, first among like-minded people, but more & more out in the open.
There are some lessons there as well but I'm not sure I want to learn them.
@@feylezofrizamass murder??? Population of Gaza more than doubles in last 20 years! Kids are being used as hostages of their own parents to worship that bloody cult called Islam.. Brainwashed since childhood to hate Jews, infidels, gays.. Muslims hate and kill each other too. Much more than Israelis killing Palestinians! Where is the outrage of everyday honour killing in Pakistan, Afghanistan etc? Does Palestinian life with more than other murdered muslims, because it was done by Jews? It's insane! Israelis don't kill for fun, they kill for survival! Where have you seen raped and burnt 9 year old girls by Jews or any other religion except of Islam!?
Thanks to you I went out and bought a book by Avishai Margalit - I wouldn't have thought it possible that I would like books about philosophy but I am enjoying reading it and learning lots. Thanks
Ah, here you are, missed you. 💙
My impression of the lessons of the Holocaust is that those lessons have to include striving never to let a polity become polarized in a way analogous to how the Weimar Republic was in its last days, when the parties of the center lost most of their support. Our own polarization is even more worrisome in light of history than it would be just on a direct examination.
The end of Weimar was brought about by the conservative forces thinking they can utilise the nazis in their favour without sacrificing their power structure to them (very famously, von Papen said we will have Hitler pushed into a corner that he will squeak). They took a gamble and lost control. So, any time conservative forces are courting far-right ideology, it's a warning sign.
I have listened to this stuff for decades and it has become pathetically predictable...occupation, apartheid, genocide and now war crimes. I didn't even have to watch the news to know what trajectory this situation would take. What happened at this Russian airport doesn't surprise me. I just wonder what took so long. I read an article that said Russia was blaming Ukraine for the incident. Russia has a long history of antisemitism; it certainly doesn't need Ukraine's help. I'm so exhausted with all of this. These are real-life events with real-life consequences which we have lived with for decades. You handle analytical and philosophical aspects, I'm ready to get to the point.
What is also infuriating is that there has been this moderately successful attempt at driving the narrative that Israelis are settler colonialists on the left, and thus “white capitalists” and deserving to be “decolonized”. Which also no one will explain what that exactly means even though we know what that means. As an African-American person, I’m infuriated, because this fundamental misunderstanding of both one’s own history (referring to Black extremists) along with that of an entire different ethnic group’s history has yielded to a false history that has been a way for propagandists to get its way into the community and manipulate it to its own ends. The long and the short I would say Hamas has infiltrated the African-American community to a certain extent, and is using our collective trauma as a way to dehumanize Jewish people through otherizing. The link to Putin is here I suspect lies in the new narrative. I am hearing essentially instructing people of color to stay home instead of voting for Biden. Obviously, this would have a net negative affect to the community.
@@automaticjoe1that's because many Israelies are settler coloniolists in the most literal sense. I'm not gonna pretend anything excuses what happened on October 7th, but Israel by in large created the situation which created Hamas, i.e kicking people out of there land, abusing them, kiling them, not giving them the same rights as Israelies, and thwarting attempts at a permant solution either one or two state; they even deliberately favored Hamas over the PAO to that end. And in the same way what hamas did wasn't justified, what Israel has done and is doing isn't justified.
Also where have you seen anyone, in US circles at least, actually supporting Hamas. Literally every piece I've seen reported as that has been just people condeming the actions of Israel.
Looking forward to the video on the main channel tomorrow 😀
As one born in the USSR, I can confirm that antisemitism was always present, overt, and even considered comic in nature, with songs and jokes.
Love your Mick Jagger impression when explaining the lessons of the holocaust.
I am German. The first thing I learned about the holocaust is about the millions being murdered in an industrially optimized way. Next: It's impossible to learn something from it, because it is incomparable worse than anything else ever happening. How can one use what one learned if there is nothing similar?
But then against the odds I learned something useful. I learned, that there are people among us, whose families were mostly wiped out. I learned about their fear, them feeling insecure, where I have to fear nothing. And above everything else their speakers showed me how to deal with that situation without projecting hate, but by reminding us of what most of us want: Creating a society in which everyone may live according to one's own values in dignity. Fighting some evil does not yield something good, although being sometimes necessary. It's respecting the other's dignity which contributes to goodness.
This is a point I missed concerning antisemitism. I think antisemitism is, among many other similarly destructive human concepts, a loss of the ability to perceive human dignity.
I think Israel is destroying the foundations on which it's built, if it becomes something no longer able to perceive the dignity of Palestinians. And there will be no Palestinian state, if the Palestinians do not learn to respect the dignity of Israeli.
What a beautifully stated and wise message - thank you
Deeply offended you didn't get the game in Dagestan right, Vlad. This was Borat's unpublished sequel, "The Running of the Jew."
Putin hosted Hamas only last week. This is was part of Putin and the Kremlin's extended Hamas celebration.
So soon people like you will come to the conclusion that Putin personally created Hamas.
With regard to our relationship to the holocaust I am reminded of this: “One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. The latter procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular.” Carl Jung
You've mentioned frequently how Putin likes to model himself after Tsar Alexander III, does this now also include mimicking Alexander III's infamous support of pogroms and anti-semitism?
Do you have any evidence that Alexander III supported pogroms?? I hear many people claim that he and Nicholas II supported them, but never any proof... And the more I read about them, their personality, the less I believe it.
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It's not hard to prove. He made many openly anti-Semitic comments, passed the 1882 May laws that restricted the rights of where Jews could live and work, and in 1891 almost all the Jews of Moscow were systematically deported. Given that he was an absolute monarch, having every Jew in his own city deported couldn't have possibly happened without his approval.
@@MoonThuli Are you serious?? The fact that he made "anti-semitic statements", whatever the hell that means, and instituted laws which temporarily limited Jews to certain sections of the empire obviously doesn't mean that he supported indiscriminate murder of Jewish people! This is the worst non sequitur I've ever seen, and it's a great example of how weak the anti-Romanov arguments tend to be.
I just saw a video clip of this at that airport and was HORRIFIED. It made me rethink my entire stance on the Israel/Gaza “conflict”. One can support the Israelis and the hostages and not support a far right government, and not be an antisemite. At the same time one can also support the Palestinians and not be sympathetic to Hamas and the horrible atrocities they committed and keep committing. It seems like saying ANYTHING about the Israeli government gets you called an anti semite, and then saying anything about Palestinians to certain groups of people gets you called a sympathizer to terrorists. It’s just so wrong.
Plenty of Israelis say things about government, even now. And while supporting Palestinians is all well and good, the people in the rallies waving Palestinian flags around while chanting "gas the Jews" and the tens of thousands of Muslims across the world who were celebrating the massacre on October 7th, are undoubtedly antisemites.
Dagestan is 90% Muslim. But this has nothing to do with it, obvs.
The normalization of violence is one of the factors in conflict escalation. And, it is what frightens the average person as they watch world events take on a life of their own, spiraling out of control. When animal instincts prevail, chaos ensues.
Why is it that so often instability in the world can be traced back to Islam? Not always, but disproportionally so. And why, oh why, are we now seeing this worldwide convulsion of anti-semitism? There's a lot of piling on, once the floodgates of hate and violence were opened by Hamas.
Consider how the Islamic world got the way it is. Here's a clue; it was mostly the West screwing with them in the age of empires. Russia and England played the Great Game in Afghanistan, the UK and US deposed Iran's democratic movement to install a pliant Shah, the Partition meant that Pakistan was born in blood and religious hatred, and everyone dived in to help carve up the Ottoman Empire.
@@paulgibbon5991 You have to think how it was a few centuries before. Islam was a threat to Europe, they even conquered Spain. Later, they displaced Christians and Jews from their countries. Christianity is a religion that is originally native to the middle east.
Abrahamic religions are bad in itself, but (political) islam simply is the worst. It produces unhappy people prone to violence that don't integrate well into open societies. And among the countries with the worst performance indicators on earth, political islam as a form of government is dominant.
This little chain of Rocky isles in the North Sea, those folks got around. Some say they made a bit of a mess of things here and there while building an empire whose reverberations occasionally pop up in global conflict these days 😉
But nah, definitely tribal nomads in the desert have been spoiling the general tranquility...
@@Romana6794 Look up the greatest extent of Islam in Europe. Has nothing to do with the Brits.
I'm sorry, but "the floodgates of hate and violence" were not opened by Hamas, but by Israel. Listen to what Moshe Dayan said in his 1956 eulogy to an Israeli settler who was murdered by a Palestinian refugee:
"Let us not cast the blame on the murderers today. Why should we [decry] their burning hatred for us? For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate."
Mentioning Borat, I'm seeing both sides singing their own songs. "Throw the Jew down the well" and "Throw the Palestinian down the well." The sides are like the Hatfields and the McCoys, engaged like scorpions in a blood feud.
My grandparents were Holocaust Survivors. This was because they didn't live in Europe and weren't Jewish.
There is another phenomenon, postjudice, not liking a person after meeting them. Both sides are irritating because all they talk about is their feud. Great Britain put two cats in a bag and sailed away.
A warm thank you Vlad. I always tune in and I always come away more informed. Very grateful. ❤😊
As someone who has not been following this closely, & had never heard much about Dagestan til now, I confirm “Borat” was my first thought 😆
Is there an organization somewhere that works for a long-term peace in the Middle East that respects the human rights of all the civilians involved? I live in Berlin and I'm just so tired of this conflict flaring up again and again and spilling over into our streets. I don't want to demonstrate with Hamas sympathizers or with the "Carte blanche for Israel" troupe, but I do want to put pressure on governments to finally work towards a solution. This just can't go on.
This is thoughtful. I think the southern Caucuses are more relevant to finding solutions for us than the N Caucuses. And i think we need to do something to guarantee Armenia and improve relations with Turkey. And theres a crisis in Kurdish Iraq and Syria thats developing .
islam uber alles is not a viable theology.
Can we conclude that humanity as a whole is fundamentally tribal?
It has layers. One of them is tribal.
"river to the sea" has very forceful proponents who assert there is no implication that the state of Israel need be abolished. I have seen it used in an extremely anti-semetic way though. Not only does that mean I cannot use the phrase in any space without cumbersome clarifying statements, I worry that it will entrench people into positions that misidentify their opponents as enemies.
"Free Palestine" is a war cry to establish a state in the western part of the former Palestinian mandate and exterminate or at least displace jews to achieve this. It's a "sloganification" of the goals stated by the Hamas Covenant (1988) and Charter (2017) and was carefully chosen because "Kill the Jews" has some negative historic connotations. Yes, even Palestinians nowadays are politically correct to some extent.
I'm one of those proponents, but I also feel the same way about using that and a couple other slogans. At this point, too many people are convinced it means something dreadful to be able to use it easily in most public spaces. If we want to communicate effectively, we have to consider how our words will fall on people's ears. It is what it is.
(potentialy state supported) Pogromes had been ugly common ocurances at the end of the tsarist rule.
Therefore i asume this one is a further sign of further destabilisation of the current Regime.
After viewing Inside Russia with Mr K, I waited with anticipation for your views concerning this awful predicament. ☹️
❤ to Vlad.
I am at min 20 now and you are talking about the difference between psychological/personal and political antisemitism (if I got you right) what is shining a light on what we both disagree on (disagree as an labour hypothesis anyway): While it is very possible to "fight" personal antisemitism with (therapeutical) talking (at a table) it is impossible to fight political antisemitism (the person won't listen).
For me the political concept of anti-semitism would need to be responsive to basic and constructive political aims.
@@VladVexlerChatYes. It's not. Like so many others.
You have the most relaxing voice Vlad! I love listening to your opinions about philosophy. You always have me rapt with attention!! Well done as always! ❤
Thank you Vlad for you thoughtful, careful, balanced and deliberate navigation of what is surely one of the most complex social and political situations in the world today.
Always listen to your support of democracy ❤👍
I prefer a Republic where citizens have rights.
@@msimon6808 in islamic states people have rights too
Really excited for your main channel video, thank you Vlad
I appreciate these short chats focused on processing these anxious times. All the moving parts seem random,but somehow connected. Looking forward to your upcoming video drop.Love and appreciation.
♥🌍🤔
This is scary, not only because we stand with our Jewish brothers and sisters, but also because history suggests we are probably next.
For me,a really very illuminating chat. Many thanks.
Vlad, you see, that's why I love you ❤. You must be one of few (that I see) supporters of Israel that allow criticism. I don't discuss Israel-Palestine because even statements containing the 'State of Israel' are very suddenly antisemitic. I am not an antisemite. You'll have to trust me, but I'm not. I'm not fond of being called one. And in certain conversations, Israeli and Jewish..... have shifting meanings that suit one side of the conversation and leave me baffled.
Keep on keeping on 👍
Have you ever thought that one of the real main causes of antisemitism is envy.
1 - envy for a people that achieved so much not just economically, but intellectually, scientif8cally and etc, even been a persecuted minority and against all odds?
2 - envy for constructing a country completely different from the rest of the middle east
3 - envy for the love of life and not death
4 - envy for the cultural influence in the west
I think you might be onto something there. My mum worked for a family of orthodox jews in London, they ate what was christmas food to us, pickled herring, my favorite thing by far, every day, for breakfast, the bastards!
@5:35 i burst out laughing, with that impression. oh theyre playing catch the jew. what a perspective,, very good i needed a chuckle thanks vlad
Thanks Vlad,looking forward to your new video.. I think I know what your saying here,but im too tired to try and explain more.. I remember once when very young my dad was watching a history programme on in the background, I glanced up from my comics or something that I was laying on floor reading to see old pictures of the concentration camps just liberated by the British ..utterly perplexed, what were they doing to us?! .. just for being people! , I then looked at my dad, my expression on my small childs face must have said it all.. omnipotent parents face looked back at me and I remember because he didn't look omnipotent anymore, frozen ashen faced he looked liked he wanted to explain but couldn't to a small child,and involuntarily gave a small shrug with an expression of great sadness .. how do you explain without the segration of this group and that group of people and so on.. we didn't discuss let the programme finish and I went back to my childish preoccupations.. but it stayed with me it was beyond me and I think for my dad too..
Thank you for these reflections, in particular your thoughts about antisemitism and the holocaust. I can not wait for your "best video ever"
We have a saying in Turkish: Who saw wind harvests storm.
'He who save one life saves the world entire.'
The compassion illustrated in that film is a powerful one. It is a historical lesson, that applied not only to what Jews were once subjected to, but to all human life - Muslim, Jew, or Gentile alike. The barbarism we see in the world must end.
I live in Australia and have always found the Israel/Jewish issue difficult to traverse.
I love Jews. I have Jewish friends and they are the salt of the earth.
Many years ago, I said something negative about the position of Israel in relation to a conflict in Gaza, or maybe something which was happening in the West Bank. My neighbour was Jewish but I didn't know this. He said to me,''I thought you were a good guy''. Later, when I found he was Jewish, I felt terrible for my , I thought , rather mild remark.
It is a fine and difficult line to tread between talking about an issue and being perceived as anti-semitic.
"I love Jews".. cringe statement!
The Hamas Charter and its Koran quote will give you a better sense.
The Muslim Brotherhood allied with Hitler.
Hamas is an offshoot of The Muslim Brotherhood.
@@accesscrimeaI disagree - any statement that expresses genuine love for any group (or individual) can never be “cringe.” Now - emotionally distanced irony or inauthentic expressions - THAT’S cringe…
Great video.
Had to stop a couple of times to absorb your comments, you always have food for toughts, but in this ocassion, I may need to revisit it. Loads of personal experiences and people and places and long political discussions came to mind. Looking forward to you video tomorrow.
Brilliant, thank you!
The problem with the discussion around the Holocaust is whether it was about Jews or about the ethical limits to state violence during war. If it was about Jews, then it becomes subjective, it goes down the rabbit hole of how do we apportion blame to Jews or exonerate them, and furthermore what is a Jew anyways, and eventually you have pure subjective value judgments based on one's own feelings, and are standing on air instead of solid ground. Everything that's wrong with the Holocaust narrative can be traced to that problem. Only by universalizing the entire issue to make it apply to the fundamental inhumanity of man to his fellow man, and the mystification of state violence by irrational means, do we begin to see the depths of its evil and perpetual recurrence.
Thanks Vlad. I was revising Britisch, French and German geostrategic policies in the Region .
Deep, wise and touching as always. Peace to all concerned. 🙏
I’ve been spat at, harassed, and called “Jew pig” here in Seattle multiple times since this thing kicked off. I’m very nervous when I leave the house. I don’t hate anyone. I don’t hate anyone for their faith or gender or anything. I hate being hated.
Thanks!
Would like to see a video with your thoughts on the Israeli delegation at the UN pinning Holocaust camp stars on their chests to try and brush aside criticism of Israel.
When I first saw that picture I thought it had to be photoshopped - I didn't think that Israel would stoop so low as this.
@@vonVince I know, right?
They cry Holocaust at every turn. It may be understandable, there is great trauma there, but I think it is detrimental to Israeli society to build so much on that. Trauma is not a good raison d'etre.
It was a repugnant insult to the memory of those who were exterminated. To use their suffering as an excuse for genocide is as sickening as it gets.
I came here to understand, how antisemitism in Russia 'works'. Didn't hear a thing about it.
The one thing that pisses me off about Israel is they say everyone who critisises their state policy makes that person anti-semetic. Rubbish. Critisism of state policy does NOT make anyone some kind of religious bigot. I don't agree with their political decisions but how does that make me hate my Jewish friends? Bollox.
Criticising the state of Israel is not antisemitic.
Crying "Free Palestine" is.
Israel has enormously dedicated political opposition inside the country expressed in months of protests. Unfortunately the Israeli right is against taking criticism from anyone with any sense, even when they're other jews.
That said, the I have Jewish Friends argument isn't going to get you very far.
I never said that. Dont put words in my mouth mate.
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Oh yeah. Why so? Explain it to me, the stupid.@@theearthadorned
You cannot explain it. I live in a place where religious freedoms exist. I grew up in north London. Golders Green had their shops open Sunday and their shops shut Saturday. So what? Who is bothered? Not me sunshine.@@theearthadorned
~glad you’re healthy, and able to continue your work.
Appreciate what you offer.
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Vlad the more I listen the more enriched I feel. Thanks.
So much for the "Russians hunting Nazis in Ukraine" narrative, right?😏... I mean, that narrative was doomed from day one, given the sheer brutality of the Russian forces and Wagner... Besides: Naming your band of mercenaries after Wagner actually makes certain things pretty clear anyways, so🤷♂...
Moscow's chief Rabbi, Pinchas Goldschmidt, was more or less forced to leave last year already.
Yeah, they don't really like jews.
How does one cancel the other? Google where the so-called pogroms took place in Russia.
I am intrigued by the notion that Russia has any sort of (good) reputation anywhere, anyhow, any way. Though surely Russian anti-semitism plays very well in Iran.
Glad you're no longer in Russia.
Thank you Vlad. I always learn from you...and also from the beautiful community.
Looking forward for your video
Lots of love
My deepest thanks again, Vlad. I can't do without your calm reason and deep historical perspective.❤
It's not a 1-to-1 comparison which works directly, however, for its entire existence, Northern Ireland has been plagued by the question of whether its existence is legitimate. Peace was achieved by blurring the question.
The plantation of Ulster was in effect, the 17 century ethnic cleansing of Ulster.
Thanks for making me laugh Vlad.
And some interesting analysis.
I do find it bizarre that when Asad slaughtered civilians in Syria in an attempt to destroy ISIS the international community generally rightly condemned it.
I am not sure this is ethically different even if the history might make it seem so.
Thank you very much, Vlad. Looking forward to the video, but not sure, if you can top the overcooked rigatoni. Take good care of yourself - lots of love, listen to you tomorrow.
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Lessons from the Holocaust need not be only universal. There are very particular ones. For Jews. Never let your security be dependent on others. Come to think of it, that's also quite universal...
Thank you for caring about us. I don't feel disoriented by recent events. I feel fine, and I have been feeling fine for the better part of last year - and you deserve a great deal of credit for that. Even though you focus on political philosophy, I find that I can apply a lot of what I learn from you to my personal life, to great effect.
Sorry Vlad on the contrary we never stop talking about the holocaust, UK children go in plane loads to Poland and visit Auzwitz.. what we don't talk about or deal with is the 2 state solution.. Getting the US and EU to force Israel to a settlement.. The same as the US forced the UK to settle the Good Friday agreement and still give the UK government notice if it doesn't keep it.
i said this in reply to my other comment but i'll say this separately too because i think this is important: the river to the sea thing, despite being kind of poor communication, is widely misunderstood. what it means is, palestinians, especially young ones, dream of being able to stand on and live in the land from the river of the sea, without threat of being shot and killed. it actually has nothing to do with some sort of ethnic palestinian state as some seem to believe. but based on how israel views the conflict and how most people seem to view that stance as valid, that slogan has a very different meaning to most.
Have you looked at the textbooks used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip? They talk about driving the Jews into the sea. That is what the young people are being taught.
@@shannonjane7373 well, if you look at the textbooks and rhetoric people in israel learn and disseminate, they’re incredibly genocidal towards palestinians. there’s simply no debate over that. and there’s also a pretty big cultural divide between the west bank and gaza. but just because people feel genocidal, it doesn’t mean genocide actually needs to happen. if forced to, even through peaceful means such as civil legislation, people can change over time. people changed in south africa, did they not? their problems there are more economic than anything, even with whatever ethnic strife there is.
the fact is, this isn’t an impossible problem to solve. it’s just one that has only ever had a military and apartheid solution applied. no alternative has ever even been attempted. you can’t just say it’s impossible.
@@shannonjane7373 another example: nazi germany. is germany run by nazis today? have there been massive ethnic cleansing campaigns carried out by their state recently?
no, because people can change. nazi society gave way to modern german society.
It’s a massive, disgusting projection on the Zionist side to spin “Free Palestine from the river to the sea” as something remotely anti-semitic or even worse as a call for a genocide.
@@octagonPerfectionistWhere can I read those genocidal textbooks? And could you elaborate on your claim that "nothing else has ever been attempted?"
We're living through Fiddler on the Roof again. Its 2 steps forward 3 steps back.
Thoughtful chilled philosophy, taking a breath and reflecting with empathy, on these turbulent times.
Thanks for some cool, and occasionally funny, clarification of the situation in Isreal & Gaza. Will need to listen again.
We should not talk about the holocaust more or differently than other comparable acts of genocide, eg Armenia, Assyria, Cambodia, the Holdomor, the cultural revolution, etc....
Also we should not talk about the holocaust as if the European jews were the only or the worst victims of it, the Sindi gypsy community were, and other targeted groups including red army political officers were killed in greater proportions.
The Holocaust is in no way an excuse for the wholesale muder and robbery commited against the Palestinian people.
Like all people forced to live under the russian yoke, i used to have a lot of sympathy for the dagestani people. But if this is a ssmple of the type of people that lives there, they deserve to live under the russian regime, under putin's empire. This kind of barbararism is utterly unacceptable.
Practising mindfullness is very important in this informational storm.
"Highlanders" by Yo'av Karny is an interesting examination of the region, including its little known Jewish population history. Many years since I read it...
The difference between belief and images I call the difference between thinking and feeling.