I Tried To Hyper-Mile A Hybrid Corolla - Here's What Happened...

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @drippyfool
    @drippyfool 24 дня назад +79

    As soon as I heard "cruise control" i knew he messed up. I drive a 2022 camry hybrid for road trips, and average above 60 mpg with AC on and nothing taken out for weight savings.
    The trick is: get up higher than the speed you want to go with the gas engine, let off the accelerator all the way to shut off the engine, and then lightly press the accelerator to keep it in the "double green" gauge. This uses the electric motors to power the car at highway speeds while keeping the engine off, and it allows you to cruise for a good 1-2 minutes before the engine switches back on. When it does, keep it in the "single green" to charge the battery and power the wheels with the engine.

  • @matthewfuller1129
    @matthewfuller1129 Месяц назад +792

    Do the same trip with a new Honda Civic Hybrid. Should be an interesting comparison.

    • @vinn283
      @vinn283 Месяц назад +8

      Yes!

    • @ChoPi-Eww
      @ChoPi-Eww Месяц назад +6

      THAT would be taking one for the team

    • @Ichibuns
      @Ichibuns Месяц назад +18

      I doubt it'll be anywhere near enough to make up the $6k-$7k price difference. I don't understand how they're even considered the same class

    • @TheOtherKine
      @TheOtherKine Месяц назад +9

      I can do it for you. I have the Sport Touring. Driven the same way, you'll get about 45mpg. In order to hyper mile the Civic, you have to drive it so carefully without ever accelerating off the line, and make sure that you are on flat roads. Any little hills you have to climb, it's over. The Civic is heavy. I can hyper mile Toyota all day, because it's a different system

    • @InvestWithAlex
      @InvestWithAlex Месяц назад +3

      @@Ichibunsdefinitely not the same class anymore. Price tag is close to an entry level luxury vehicle. It has way more power now too

  • @EpicfaceMcepic
    @EpicfaceMcepic Месяц назад +474

    Now do it with Altima energy (going 90, windows down, AC blasting, music blaring) and see what you get

    • @AH-bm4ts
      @AH-bm4ts Месяц назад +6

      that's the StateBoyzz channel :)

    • @TheOtherKine
      @TheOtherKine Месяц назад +20

      Still get 30mpg LMAO

    • @colin-nekritz
      @colin-nekritz Месяц назад +47

      Behind four payments, paying 42% interest on a 144 month loan.

    • @wigletron2846
      @wigletron2846 Месяц назад +5

      He's just running away from the repo man's tow truck

    • @LezeilGaudite
      @LezeilGaudite Месяц назад +2

      A speeding ticket 😂😂

  • @kurtfehlman8403
    @kurtfehlman8403 Месяц назад +674

    AC is one thing I am not willing to sacrifice.

    • @SouthsideKidd550
      @SouthsideKidd550 Месяц назад +3

      @@kurtfehlman8403 Im right there with you because I refuse to burn up.

    • @MicahB98
      @MicahB98 Месяц назад +18

      Yah in the summer but the fall and winter, AC is off and windows down for months

    • @Jumalten001
      @Jumalten001 Месяц назад +15

      Yep, I have a 2016 Prius and get around 55-60MPG with no AC and normal driving, But i'll take the 42-48 MPG with AC cause its soo nice.

    • @matty1053
      @matty1053 Месяц назад +24

      @@MicahB98 That causes more drag. It's more efficient having the A/C on at that point

    • @SouthsideKidd550
      @SouthsideKidd550 Месяц назад +1

      @@matty1053 Exactly. In the fall, if the car has auto a/c, I just normally set it on 70-73 and thats usually comfy for me.

  • @humanbot3531
    @humanbot3531 Месяц назад +144

    There was one dude who did 90+ mpg with his prius. I pray for the people that were driving behind him.

    • @MiahV007
      @MiahV007 Месяц назад +7

      Thats literally impossible in New Jersey/ PA area. Speed limit was 55, and I was doing almost 65 and people were on my bumper, like INCHES away.
      I just succumbed and go the speed of traffic and forget about the MPGs

    • @Defianthuman
      @Defianthuman Месяц назад +3

      @@MiahV007 Yeah it really is im in South Jersey as well and its crazy here. The slow lane be going like 10-15 over and the fast lane can get over 20+. I have been one to sit at a constant 70 and just let people go around, to get 50mpg.

    • @lachyak
      @lachyak Месяц назад

      i have gotten to 90mpg before on a 1.4 mile trip that was flat or downhill when my hybrid corolla's battery was already charged

    • @MonkeyPunchZPoker
      @MonkeyPunchZPoker 18 дней назад

      I believe he accomplished that mostly by tailgating big rigs for the draft... I actually forget what it's called but doing that drastically cuts down on wind resistance and increased MPG.

  • @hsinsher8650
    @hsinsher8650 Месяц назад +329

    You can do AC full blast and still get decent mileage with that thing

    • @anequallygoodchannel.2761
      @anequallygoodchannel.2761 Месяц назад +39

      The point was to hyper mile though.

    • @masonchase085
      @masonchase085 Месяц назад +10

      @@anequallygoodchannel.2761it’s still good mpg when a human wants to be human & cool down but maybe you won’t need the ac cause you not sweatin bout gas money💀

    • @averyalexander2303
      @averyalexander2303 Месяц назад +8

      But with the AC on full blast, he very likely wouldn't have even gotten 50 MPG. The AC compressor takes a lot of power to run, especially on very hot days. When I'm hypermiling in the summer, a good compromise for me is to roll the windows down a couple inches. At hypermiling speeds, slightly open windows make almost zero difference to efficiency, but any airflow helps comfort a lot.
      Running just the fan on fresh air mode is another option, but on a lot of cars, I find that the vents tend to blow significantly warmer than ambient air because of the engine heat and heater core. Besides, on full blast, the blower motor on most smaller cars uses around 200 watts. Factoring in alternator inefficiencies, that's around 350 watts of extra load on the engine- nearly 1/2 a horsepower. At a 50 MPH cruise when you only need perhaps 10HP, an extra 5% load isn't insignificant. Still much better than 2-3+ HP running an AC compressor though.

    • @matty1053
      @matty1053 Месяц назад +1

      @@averyalexander2303 Not really. Once the compressor is on the compressor is on. A/C doesn't make that much of a noticeable difference.

    • @averyalexander2303
      @averyalexander2303 Месяц назад +1

      @@matty1053 Perhaps not to the average driver and/or on cooler days, but it's definitely noticeable to hardcore hypermilers like myself, especially on hot days and at lower speeds (where hypermilers spend most of their time).
      The more efficient a vehicle is and the more efficient its driver is, the more noticeable things like that are.

  • @panoscoach310
    @panoscoach310 Месяц назад +186

    For viewers outside the USA, Liberia, Myanmar and the UK the result is 4,34lt/100km.

    • @bikeman123
      @bikeman123 Месяц назад +22

      65 mpg in uk

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss Месяц назад +3

      We could do some serious weight reduction on this bad unit if yoy didnt mind throwing away all tohr money just to see how high thr mpg can go. No seats no window motors 😂

    • @walkingguy6409
      @walkingguy6409 Месяц назад

      @@bikeman1234.4l/62mi in scotland

    • @sczygiel
      @sczygiel Месяц назад +8

      The interesting bit is that 2006 auris d4d - diesel does 4.5l/100km with no effort. Thats almost 20 year old car. Diesel. Yes. But still similar to this new one.

    • @AfonsoBucco
      @AfonsoBucco Месяц назад +5

      in Brazil we would say 24 Km/L
      for comparison a normal Corolla with old 2.0 L engine would do 12 Km/L

  • @bbkmm1
    @bbkmm1 Месяц назад +109

    I drove my 98 Corolla conservatively in 2005 due to Hurricane Katrina causing the gas price to go from $1.80 to $3.00. I got around 47MPG

    • @high-octane-stunts86
      @high-octane-stunts86 Месяц назад

      Bro what , my 2007 Subaru only got 26 mpg

    • @AyAy008
      @AyAy008 Месяц назад +2

      Based

    • @louisbarningham
      @louisbarningham Месяц назад

      @@AyAy008based? What do you mean?

    • @LiljamezZz
      @LiljamezZz Месяц назад

      @@louisbarninghamu knoooo 😋😚

    • @louisbarningham
      @louisbarningham Месяц назад +1

      @@LiljamezZz are you sure you got the right word? Relying “Based” makes no sense

  • @SouthsideKidd550
    @SouthsideKidd550 Месяц назад +47

    I own a 2024 Toyota Corolla Hybrid LE. The SE Hybrid gets slight lower MPGs than the LE due to the wheel and tire size. I'm currently in St. Louis, MO on a business trip. I drove the 8.5 hours from Atlanta, GA to St. Louis, MO via I-75 North to I-24 (Chattanooga, TN), I-57 (Paducah, KY) to I-64 (Mt. Vernon, IL) and I-70 (Bridgeton, Earth City, St. Charles, MO). Going through the Tennessee Mountains, I averaged out 47.8 MPG @ 72 MPH on cruise control. On flat land, averaged out 58.2 @ 72 MPH on cruise control. So yes, Toyota is correct on the 53-55 MPG Avg for the Corolla Hybrid LE. I can't speak for the SE and XSE Hybrid models because I dont own either one.😊

    • @seanh2390
      @seanh2390 Месяц назад +2

      appreciate the info

    • @SouthsideKidd550
      @SouthsideKidd550 Месяц назад +2

      @@seanh2390 I left Atlanta with a full tank. I made it to Mt. Vernon, IL on that single tank and filled back up. $32.70 is what it took to fill back up using 89 octane.

    • @colin-nekritz
      @colin-nekritz Месяц назад +2

      What’s crazy is I had a 1996 Dodge Neon with the 2.0 DOHC with NO AC because it was gifted to me for well below cost ($7K brand new for a $10.5K MSRP in 96) by my ex’s father who owned a Dodge stealership that couldn’t sell it (due to no AC). Granted, different era and cars were lighter but I consistently hit 40 MPG driving back and forth from Atlanta to New York despite hills and stuff, and I lost a lot of weight sweating it off in Hotlanta not having AC.

    • @SouthsideKidd550
      @SouthsideKidd550 Месяц назад +1

      @@colin-nekritz Oh, I believe you. I also own a 2007 Honda Fit with 292,000 miles on it. Before this St. Louis trip, I drove my Honda Fit up to Columbus, OH to see a family member (I drove it instead of my Corolla because I wanted to see if the old girl still had it, which she did excellent.) in the hospital. On that trip, I got a little over 40 MPGs. No cruise control (because it doesnt have it), doing average speeds of 73-77 MPH. Same rating going through the mountains with the A/C on.

    • @thibault7490
      @thibault7490 19 дней назад +1

      This video proves that driving a hybrid makes no difference in mpg than a conventional car when only driving on the highway. There is a crazy difference in city driving though! :)

  • @bryanvlogs1421
    @bryanvlogs1421 Месяц назад +103

    54 mpg when my Tahoe gets 15 mpg lol

  • @deadfishparty
    @deadfishparty Месяц назад +27

    The base hybrid in Canada comes with 15” tires. Wouldn’t be surprised if you could get 60mpg with it. This reminded me of the Seinfeld episode when Kramer test drives a new car and sees how gar he can go with the low fuel light on.

  • @Spacedog_42
    @Spacedog_42 Месяц назад +13

    Those 18” wheels on the spec you drove are what kept you from hitting 60mpg. If you had the base LE trim with smaller wheels, I’m sure you’d make it.

  • @FantasticAncho
    @FantasticAncho Месяц назад +31

    This is the characteristic stuff you do so well! The music build up that shows you slowly going crazy and a hyper-mile record attempt that was spontaneous! Keep up all the great work you do!

  • @girthycucumber4274
    @girthycucumber4274 Месяц назад +41

    The M20A is such a great engine, I've been to achieve 47mpg in my non hybrid Corolla and consistently average about 40 and I'm never able to get less than 28, not to mention it's quiet and powerful for what it is. I love the Dynamic Force engines because they're not just impressive on paper they deliver good real world performance as well.

    • @therealboofighter
      @therealboofighter Месяц назад +10

      There were 4273 girthy cucumbers before you?

    • @masonchase085
      @masonchase085 Месяц назад +1

      The regular non hybrid can take flex fuel I did not know Toyota dabbled in that

    • @lupe2947
      @lupe2947 Месяц назад +2

      Agreed! I get 51 regularly on longer highway trips in mine. I average 40-41 in mixed driving; I’ be been so impressed with it

    • @SouthsideKidd550
      @SouthsideKidd550 Месяц назад +5

      @@lupe2947 The hybrid system is really designed for fuel saving for city driving. On stretch, its just a regular car.

    • @ryanb5189
      @ryanb5189 Месяц назад

      The 2.0 engine is actually a little more efficient than the 1.8 in the hybrid. I can get over 60 mpg in my 2023 gas only Corolla.

  • @QuickshotGaming
    @QuickshotGaming 25 дней назад +3

    It’s an electric ac compressor, it’s not ran by the engine directly. It’s essentially the same power plant from the 16-22 Prius.

  • @PenguTT44-sh2oe
    @PenguTT44-sh2oe Месяц назад +8

    I have a 2015 L with a 6 speed manual and 52 is the best I’ve ever gotten in 1 gas tank. It was a long highway drive and we lost 700 feet of elevation.

  • @jeffer1101
    @jeffer1101 Месяц назад +2

    don't be disappointed. hybrids excel in the city, not the highway. it's not that they are not good on the highway, it's that everything is good on the highway. i've driven around town in my Venza (4000 lb AWD hybrid crossover) and got 50 mpg with relative ease. a regular gas vehicle would likely get 20 mpg.

  • @pius_xiv
    @pius_xiv Месяц назад +18

    I’m so glad you did this. 54 MPG is great for this car. Maybe the next gen Corolla with the updated hybrid system will be better. I don’t hyper-mile, but I have driven 5 hours averaging 60 MPH with little A/C usage, and my MPG for that trip I has been exactly 50 MPG. And I have the AWD Nightshade Edition with the 225 width tires. Part of me wishes I would have waited for the next gen but, who knows. The price might increase and maybe reliability will decrease. I’d like to think that this generation Corolla and this generation hybrid system is tried and true.

    • @TheOtherKine
      @TheOtherKine Месяц назад +1

      I owned the 2nd Gen Prius from 2008, and the best I managed to do with that one with normal driving was 55mpg before they changed the firmware at 50K

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 Месяц назад

      The 225 tires don't help with fuel efficiency .

  • @gustavokennedy213
    @gustavokennedy213 Месяц назад +5

    2016 Toyota Corolla SE stock from factory. 30 miles one commute from home to work one. Cruse set to 65 i average 40 mpg and that’s when AC full blast and radio up.

  • @jacobrzeszewski6527
    @jacobrzeszewski6527 Месяц назад +1

    A couple tips for hypermiling. Cracked windows have verry little drag. And the pressure difference from opening the window means just turning on the HVAC with the AC off and dial on full cold you can get a nice breeze. I saw a 0.5 MPG drop doing this in a controled test. Also, sunroofs are terrible for efficiency cracked or open. a 1.5 MPG drop. Biggest hit was AC on full cold, about 4 MPG. This was in a Chevy Spark, BTW.

  • @superlight47
    @superlight47 Месяц назад +30

    You will not get 60s doing highway driving. you need local street driving with little to no traffic to get 60mps or higher. In my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid, I get up 50 mpg to 60+mpg and on one occasion 70+mpg. I was just recently on a trip from NY to Montreal QC almost 400 miles. I was getting 45+ to 50mpg. On my trip back to NY I was averaging less, but still better then 41 mpg because I wanted to make it back home in 6h, 30min. I made it back in 6h and 40min.

    • @kevinW826
      @kevinW826 Месяц назад +1

      In a hybrid, true. Sadly no diesel currently sold in North America can get that number. Of course the old VW diesels could.

    • @PatrickFugate
      @PatrickFugate Месяц назад

      I regularly get 60+ mpg with nonSE corolla hybrids, have had three LE and now an XLE, 38psig in the tires, a/c on. Had a SE Hybrid too but rarely got over 45mpg. A/C compressor is not driven by the engine it is electric.

    • @PatrickFugate
      @PatrickFugate Месяц назад

      That is at hyw speeds doing the speed limit, city driving does help increase mileage

    • @jobinkuriakose7289
      @jobinkuriakose7289 Месяц назад

      Imagine what a 1ltr turbo diesel engine + plug in hybrid with at least 50 miles EV only range could do in mpg terms. Sadly, there is only Mercedes suv, which has a diesel hybrid.

  • @jbar_85
    @jbar_85 Месяц назад +16

    The LE and LE convenience package versions get higher MPGs due to smaller rims.

    • @PatrickFugate
      @PatrickFugate Месяц назад +2

      Lower rolling resistance tires, not smaller rims. I see similar mileage results between 15" LE mpg and 16" XLE tires as both are Yokohama low prolong resistance tires, I briefly had a SE and with the factory performance tires it was hard to break 45mpg

    • @PatrickFugate
      @PatrickFugate Месяц назад +2

      Profile

    • @jbar_85
      @jbar_85 Месяц назад

      @@PatrickFugate so smaller rims with low profile is good!

    • @PatrickFugate
      @PatrickFugate Месяц назад +1

      Low rolling resistance tires are helpful, versus the performance tires on the SE he was driving. Size of the wheel itself has little effect, overall diameter of the tires are the same

  • @divery4eyes
    @divery4eyes 15 дней назад

    corolla le owner here.
    try cross flow ventilation
    open the front drivers side window, a slight bit, less than 1/8 inch
    open the rear passengers side window, a slight bit, less than 1/8 inch.
    you will be amazed with the airflow that crosses over you.
    i do this and still get over 50 mpg with the cruise set to 55

  • @huhjustafox
    @huhjustafox Месяц назад +1

    One of the ways I fight sleep during late night road trips is just by hypermiling something that wasn't meant for efficiency, namely my Civic Type R. Managed to touch 40MPG rolling through the Appalachians in the summer, which was the dumbest things I could've been doing with a car like that but it but it sure kept me awake without resorting to feloniously speeding

  • @zakducharme7192
    @zakducharme7192 Месяц назад +11

    I feel like if you have the LE front wheel drive, you’d be a lot closer

  • @MohdAzylee
    @MohdAzylee Месяц назад +1

    They have eletric ac compressor, which runes from the hybrid battery, which gets charges from kinetic energy or from the engine generator.

  • @Moutarde_Chou
    @Moutarde_Chou Месяц назад +3

    I looked a lot at mpg numbers with the corolla hybrid on the internet and what i've found is that there is a big hit in mpg with the 18" wheels and awd. I've seen some LE fwd with the 16" (usa) or 15" (canada) hit like 68 mpg. The fwd with 18" or the the LE 16" with awd around 58 mpg and if you have it all like an XLE awd 18" on the highway, sometimes as low as 46 mpg. It would be interesting if you could find a base one fwd with small wheels to see what kind of numbers you could get!

  • @DrPeppa
    @DrPeppa Месяц назад +1

    The thing with maximizing fuel economy is it gets to a point where you have diminishing savings the more efficient you get. So in my mind, mid twenties to mid thirties for MPG is generally where you'll get the most bang for your buck in terms of how much the vehicle costs you, particularly on the used market.

  • @fasttracklap8480
    @fasttracklap8480 Месяц назад

    First of all, kudos to you for doing this experiment, having fallen in love with eco-driving, it makes everyday comutes actually fun, you get the same “fun” like racing perfect rqce lines around the nurburgring, it’s the same with managing thé accelerator, “reading” the road to anticipate oncoming stops so you won’t accelerate uselessly, pulse and glide, it’s fun and rewarding at the end, i get excited when i see that a made a day and the fuel gauge is still up, i feel proud 😂… and secondly: you did a great job and a great result because these hybrids are better in town, on the highway at a constant speed, they tend to be less efficient than a comparable engine without the battery, but in town, that’s where they really shine. That being said, it’s still a good result 3,9 liters per 100km, i manage to get 3.0 to 3.5 liters per 100 km in an old 1.3 na toyota (i think you got it in the usa it was called the echo and it had a 1.5L 1nz-fe, here it’s called the yaris and it has 1.3L 2nz-fe, and the sporty version had the 1.5)
    Other thing is that in the usa you only get the corolla as the smallest toyota, whereas everywhere else in the world (for example i’m Algerian, and here we have access to toyota yaris, 1.5, it’s smaller, lighter, and it certainly better for the consumption) and also that corolla you have is available in europe with a 1.6, in the us they always pit big engines lol.
    Again nice video, and i agree with one of the comments above that said do the same test with a a civic, i mean yes ! Not only that, make it like a series where you test the fuel economy of various cars, there are some chanels here in europe, where they test cars we have, but i would love to add you amongst the few chanels that does that, it’s a topic of interest for me and i think for many others. Take care 👍

  • @mikemichaud5048
    @mikemichaud5048 Месяц назад +8

    I feel that I can get better gas mileage not using my cruise control....Great video Zack!👍

    • @azizkizbayev439
      @azizkizbayev439 Месяц назад +3

      Its a ecvt, wont be a huge difference 1-1.5 mpg max. Its a flat out road no difference, mountains yes

    • @superlight47
      @superlight47 Месяц назад +1

      I will agree with you. base on my own observation on a trip to Canada and using cruise control. but I do love how cruise control hander the delivery of power when going up a hill, and I love up it accelerate once you change lane from behind a slower vehicle.

    • @gparyani
      @gparyani Месяц назад

      I love Ford's eco cruise control feature. That said, I do override it when accelerating after passing a slow car and accelerate smoothly myself.

  • @jone30rw
    @jone30rw Месяц назад +1

    to give a little bit of context: it is SE AWD (MPG: 47 city /41 highway), and the road was mostly flat (i guess). for hills it should be around 43.

  • @realilty
    @realilty Месяц назад

    You're on the money with this idea. Not enough hypermiling videos made. Great video.

  • @Roger-my5in
    @Roger-my5in Месяц назад

    Good choice of music! I averaged about 32 in my 6spd Sentra on a 4500 mile round trip from coast to gulf and back over about 6 days…doin 80-90 with AC. Night driving is where it’s at for mpg.

  • @senseicorey9979
    @senseicorey9979 Месяц назад +6

    Zack I'm not mad about this content

  • @FATBOY2222
    @FATBOY2222 Месяц назад +6

    I have a 2015 Toyota Corolla LE , 1.8L 4 cylinder and I get 39 mpg consistently.

    • @xavigc5642
      @xavigc5642 15 дней назад

      2015? Is it hybrid or is actually giving you that just with the motor, and how is the car now compared to new?

  • @scott8919
    @scott8919 Месяц назад +19

    Veing mindful of your driving habits to reduce fuel use is not hypermiling. Driving a foot behind an 18 wheeler to take advantage of lack of air resistance, that's hypermiling.

    • @enriqueb4412
      @enriqueb4412 Месяц назад +9

      That’s also risking your windshield and putting your life in danger. Not worth it.

    • @Nathan_Jay
      @Nathan_Jay Месяц назад

      ​@@enriqueb4412that's hypermiling.

    • @ForTheLongCon
      @ForTheLongCon Месяц назад

      Who cares?

    • @kb9knd
      @kb9knd 19 дней назад

      Good way to piss off the truck driver.

  • @gparyani
    @gparyani Месяц назад

    I drive a Ford Fusion Energi. One long drive, I didn't charge the PHEV battery and drove the car as a hybrid. I kept the cabin at a comfortable temperature and used the radio too. I stuck to a 62 MPH speed limit on the highway. Just by doing that simple step, along with smooth acceleration and braking on the city portions of the trip, I was able to get 49 MPG out of the car which is EPA-rated at 42 MPG when running purely on gasoline.

  • @ravd883
    @ravd883 14 дней назад

    I have a 21 Lexus ES300H F -Sport. Highway 50-55 mpg all day every day with everything turned on. Absolutely love it.

  • @otakudjr
    @otakudjr 24 дня назад +1

    Remember in old cars without super auto AC where you could just turn on "vent" and get some highway air without using the fan motor? Pepperidge farm might remember

    • @misham6547
      @misham6547 18 дней назад

      It works the same way on most piston planes (well because they have the same technology as a LADA inside

  • @Wqghfxz
    @Wqghfxz Месяц назад

    I am an owner of a 2019 Corolla hybrid euro market in Easter Europe. My car gets around 3.5 - 4 liters/100km, or 65 mpg - 60 mpg. The best I have done is 80 mpg. You must go at 80km/h or 50mph. Soft braking and soft take offs. The temperature outside should be around 20 - 25 C, or about 68-80 F. Also don't hesitate to buy best fuel. I would always get shell fuel close by my home and get good fuel consumption. Two weeks ago, I went for BP, and for some reason I started getting even better fuel consumption, even though I thought shell was better. At shell, my fuel gauge would always show 1000 km or like 1030 km, but in reality it would be enough for 850 km. At BP last year time, it showed 930 km, and still have 200 km left today, which seem like it'll get to 860-900 mile mark which is unbelievable.

  • @GXKid06
    @GXKid06 Месяц назад +7

    If you had a LE with the small wheels you would have had a chance

  • @Grafyte
    @Grafyte Месяц назад +2

    Dog, Toyota Hybrids have been using electrically driven AC compressors since 2005. Any time the engine is off, the AC is still as ice cold as ever.

  • @miteco1
    @miteco1 Месяц назад

    We got 62 for the trip below all the way to Sacramento but after we hit Sacramento we drove faster afterwards.
    We got 58 mpg over the entire trip to Sacramento and beyond, it was a 600+ mile break-in drive over 3 days with AC on the entire trip. We drove from Southern California to Northern California then tooled around the Bay Area. Our route was from the San Diego/Orange County border all the way up Interstate 5 freeway to Sacramento then from there to Walnut, CA then to Oakland, then to Pleasanton then to Tracy then to Davis.
    I put a big "student driver" sign in the rear window and we kept it at 55 to 60 on the way up following lumbering semi trucks. Mostly we were around 59mph on the way up but tooli g around we drove normal freeway speeds but not over 65 and we varied our speed and rpm the entire break in period per mfg. recommendations.
    I think you could have gotten similar mileage to what you got even with the AC on.

  • @ottolinden371
    @ottolinden371 Месяц назад +4

    Love this style of video, very relatable.

  • @djplonghead5403
    @djplonghead5403 Месяц назад +11

    Did you put your flashers on because of the speed you were going?

    • @Defianthuman
      @Defianthuman Месяц назад +1

      Because he was going less than the speed limit and it was really dark. In the light, if I was doing 55 I would not have but he said it was pitch black. He probably wanted people to see him before they run into his bumper.

  • @Twominutedevotions
    @Twominutedevotions Месяц назад +5

    In my Camry the ac runs off the electric motor. I didn’t know the Corolla had a different system

    • @kc9scott
      @kc9scott Месяц назад +1

      Wikipedia says starting with 2004 Prius, Toyota’s hybrid synergy drive always uses an electric A/C comperssor. However, I’m sure the compressor would have its own separate electric motor; it wouldn’t be one of the car’s drive motors.

  • @jimkanellakos4699
    @jimkanellakos4699 Месяц назад +8

    I could sense the disappointment you felt when you calculated the mpg at the Marathon. 54.18 is still awesome. Thanks Zack!

    • @DaWok666
      @DaWok666 Месяц назад +2

      whyd you spoil it

    • @JustYoujin
      @JustYoujin Месяц назад

      Womp womp ​@@DaWok666

    • @mutated__donkey5840
      @mutated__donkey5840 24 дня назад

      @@DaWok666why are you reading comments before finishing the video if you didn’t want spoilers.

    • @DaWok666
      @DaWok666 24 дня назад

      @@mutated__donkey5840 why are you replying after a month

  • @davidp2888
    @davidp2888 Месяц назад +3

    I used to have a 2023 Corolla (non-hybrid) and averaged 38mpg without hyper-miling. Very boring, very slow but damned efficient.

  • @invader703
    @invader703 Месяц назад +1

    I second doing this with the new civic hybrid, I'm thinking of getting one but have reservation about how good the mpg really is on the highway!
    Also you are a stronger man than I, being from Texas, no A/C is not an option for me LOL

    • @pi.actual
      @pi.actual Месяц назад

      I got one a month ago. I get 50 mpg all the time driving it like a normal person, city, highway, mountains, you name it. I do 75-80 on highway just like everybody else.

  • @motomatt4266
    @motomatt4266 Месяц назад

    My best recent trip in my 2022 corolla hybrid resulted in an indicated 74mpg on a 25 mile trip. A big part is the 15 inch wheels with low resistance tires. The newer ones have normal tires, and that kills it.

  • @robertbruce2182
    @robertbruce2182 Месяц назад +2

    This is so interesting, in Australia with my Corolla Hybrid Hatch with the 5th gen hybrid system, I average 3.5l/100km (67mi/gal)

    • @kevinW826
      @kevinW826 Месяц назад

      City or highway?

    • @robertbruce2182
      @robertbruce2182 Месяц назад

      @@kevinW826 both, about 10km city 20km highway one way

    • @pi.actual
      @pi.actual Месяц назад +1

      You're talkin Imperial gallons right? American gallon is only 3.79 liters.

    • @robertbruce2182
      @robertbruce2182 Месяц назад

      @@pi.actual I didn’t know there were two types, I just used my iPhones conversion

    • @pi.actual
      @pi.actual Месяц назад

      @@robertbruce2182 Well just eyeballing it 100 km is about 62 miles and 3.5 liters is less than a US gallon so looks like you got it right.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 Месяц назад +20

    Zack, You can add 1.5 mpg to offset the effects of all the bugs that accumulated on the front of the car on a summer nighttime drive. 🦟🦗 The oversized wheels on that Corolla SE are certainly not helping mpg, the base 16" rims would be much better.

    • @azizkizbayev439
      @azizkizbayev439 Месяц назад

      True, but these 225/40/18 better on the highway. I had 16inch and 18inch. 3-4mpg difference. Car is stable, more contact surface patch with the road

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 Месяц назад +7

      @@azizkizbayev439 Stable? Contact patch?? It is a 139 hp Corolla for crying out loud! 😱

    • @azizkizbayev439
      @azizkizbayev439 Месяц назад +1

      @@rightlanehog3151 i agree but once you get to 70-90mph, tires rims do Make a huge difference. I had the same corolla with both sets of wheels. Basically 18inch 3-4kg heavier per axle

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 Месяц назад

      @@azizkizbayev439 90 mph???

    • @handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem
      @handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem 19 дней назад

      ​@@azizkizbayev439more stable for changing lanes how its so ez

  • @aaronsorspomar96
    @aaronsorspomar96 Месяц назад

    Mi brother did once 62 MPG with our Opel Astra (Chevy Cruze in the USA) in a 50-55mph trip, with the 1.6L TDCi, same engine that the Chevy Cruze you reviewed a few time ago. The MPG righ now with 100% city driving is about 40MPG

  • @heatherschandera8403
    @heatherschandera8403 Месяц назад +4

    you forget hybrids get worse fuel mpg on the highway then in the city when they can drive long stretch’s on ev only on the highway the gas engine can’t run in ev at all still go but next time try city only

  • @bruceclough1539
    @bruceclough1539 Месяц назад +3

    My non hybrid base 2023 gets 43 with me just driving, not being reserved at all

  • @erek2075
    @erek2075 Месяц назад +2

    The display is showing Average MPG not MPG per trip. Its algorithm will favor the most recent instantaneous MPG over what you had at the start of the trip. Also, use your phone GPS to confirm the speedometer is calibrated.

    • @RustyZipper
      @RustyZipper Месяц назад +2

      Absolutely 👍 my ‘24 Sienna is fast 2 mph to boost the average MPG, in my opinion.

    • @erek2075
      @erek2075 Месяц назад +1

      @@RustyZipper Yes, very common the spedo/odometer is calibrated high. It results in higher MPG -and- more importantly the warrantee expires sooner.

  • @eddiefalcon8316
    @eddiefalcon8316 Месяц назад +17

    Hey Zack. Is it still hyper-milling if you go 70 with the AC on? I ask because 55 and no AC is not a typical scenario.

    • @victorbaird8220
      @victorbaird8220 Месяц назад +6

      No 60-65 mph with A/C on is more realistic 😊

    • @Cade55
      @Cade55 Месяц назад +2

      hyper miling would be max 65, and using the ac sparingly. Like activating it only when the car gets warm. So if it's cold outside you may not even need to use it.

    • @eddiefalcon8316
      @eddiefalcon8316 Месяц назад +2

      @@Cade55 im in Miami so even in winter I need AC 😂

    • @Cade55
      @Cade55 Месяц назад +1

      @@eddiefalcon8316 well look at it this way, gas prices in miami are probably high anyways so it may not make a difference. But I'm pretty sure in places where it gets cold in the winter, the fuel is less efficient. So yeah you need to use your ac, but it may get canceled out by you not having to deal with the colder fuel.

    • @jdslyman1720
      @jdslyman1720 Месяц назад

      ​@Cade55 I don't know if the fuel is less efficient in the cold per se, but I know the gas engine will run more in a hybrid when it is cold out, because it is trying to keep itself at operating temperature, and it needs to be at temp for emission controls to work properly and for the heater to work. The AC compressor is another story. It is electric, so I can't see it pulling much from the engine, unlike a traditional clutch driven compressor. It pulls from the traction battery, and that is recharged by regen breaking mostly and a bit by the engine.

  • @andrew48376
    @andrew48376 Месяц назад

    Did a road trip with my family in the corolla hybrid awd, for the whole trip of 1300+ miles we averaged 56mpg. Another factor to take into consideration is the fuel pumps pressure and the angel of the car. My car stopes filling up early at a gas station with a higher pressure.

    • @andrew48376
      @andrew48376 Месяц назад

      4 adults, with mixed drivers from casual to slightly led foot, normal speeds 55-70 mph

    • @andrew48376
      @andrew48376 Месяц назад

      Also the AC was on because it was summer and 90 degrees out. Hybrids do the best in 70 plus degree weather.

  • @Dankcatvacs
    @Dankcatvacs Месяц назад +2

    Not bad at all Zack .add a few more miles to your route and you could have easily gotten 60

  • @j-bird1778
    @j-bird1778 Месяц назад +1

    My old Mercury gets 26 mpg under perfect conditions. My drive is completely urban and I can ink out 18 mpg if I do everything I possibly can to maximize mpg.

  • @paulmcdonald9592
    @paulmcdonald9592 Месяц назад +1

    Love your site. Please keep up your good work.

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 22 дня назад

    Hybrids can be a double edged swords, they can make the average driver much more efficient, but they can also fight you when trying to hypermile.
    I have one of those rare hybrids that is actually bad at making the average driver efficient
    However, because i have a CVT i can use simple driving techniques that work the same in non hybrids.
    My CRZ though rated for a crappy 35MPG for this tiny 2 seat 1.5L hybrid, can get between 500 and 600 miles on this 10 gallon tank on my ~24 mile daily round trip commute in the summer
    This car really likes 40-50MPH and thankfully, until i get into town, thats actually the speed limit for the stopless hill-free route i take
    With the CVT i can baby the throttle to keep my acceperation under 1500RPM and keep it as close to 1100 as possible while still gaining speed.
    Both of my cars(2013 CRZ and 1996 fleetwood limo) like ambient temperatures above 90F windows cracked, AC off
    The only mods i've made to either is disabling the antenna on the cadillac(i dont have issues recieving AM/FM and if i need it i can always plug the motor back in) and then covering the back greenhouse glass on the CRZ with a reflective film cutting down on light by ~98% while not getting hot like black tints tend to. This was for my sanity at all times as the AC is not powerful enough to overcome this in the summer, its like running a 1500w space heater in the car, with this mirrored finish, i don find myself using the AC/venting until maybe 95f with high humidity, or 110 when dry. The greenhouse glass is not of practical use for me because of my seating position.

  • @gogutzy
    @gogutzy Месяц назад

    my auris 2015 with the 136 hp 1.8 hybrid achieved 71.93107 mpg at the pump. i have about 10k miles at 65.3374 mpg.
    all achieved at high outside temperatures >86F, in a dry climate, without AC, alone in the car. that's when you can charge the battery at the best instant consumption of gas.
    use only the top half of the battery for EV driving (at 30 mph or more preferably). once the top half is gone, start the gas engine and charge it at a constant speed, with the rev needle at half or 66% of the first eco section, you'll be surprised.

  • @kevinlian1406
    @kevinlian1406 Месяц назад

    I used to own a 2023 Corolla Hybrid too but it was the LE trim and I drove 60-65 MPH with AC on and I used to get 64.2 MPG.

  • @DoorisJ
    @DoorisJ Месяц назад +1

    Turning the AC on (like 73-74 degrees) at cruising speed wouldn't have a huge impact on MPG... But it's city driving, as well as when the temperature is set super low, that the system is truly being pushed.

    • @PatrickFugate
      @PatrickFugate Месяц назад

      This car typically gets better fuel economy around town, the stress on the BATTERY DRIVEN a/c is no different in town or on the highway

  • @billsanders3604
    @billsanders3604 Месяц назад +1

    I watched a TFL video on mileage for two F150s with a 3.3 and 3.73 rear end. The 3.73 did better in mileage. Even though the RPMs were higher, the 3.73 put the engine in the max power spot.

    • @gschaaf713
      @gschaaf713 Месяц назад

      max power is not max efficiency in any engine im pretty sure.

  • @kimochi33
    @kimochi33 Месяц назад +4

    I think little Rolla could reach 60mpg in stop and go traffic

  • @BobboNaught-YT
    @BobboNaught-YT Месяц назад

    Good news, the AC compressor runs off the high voltage system, not off the engine directly. Sure, that is still a tiny bit more engine run time to produce the electricity, but it’s not even noticeable MPG on these Toyota hybrids unless it’s 90F or more out

  • @jamesgonzales6086
    @jamesgonzales6086 Месяц назад

    That's excellent! Hwy mpg is usually less than city with hybrid

  • @VSV659
    @VSV659 Месяц назад

    I drove my daughter’s 2014 VW Jetta with a 1.8 Turbo engine all the way from Miami to NJ. Had the ac on all the time - averaged 45 mpg. Good enough for me.

  • @RideswithChuck
    @RideswithChuck Месяц назад

    Next time do his on a cool, not cold fall day. The air will be thicker for better combustion and neither the AC nor the heat will be needed. Nice work.

  • @nightflash96
    @nightflash96 Месяц назад +1

    Guys wait till he finds out what a european VW Passat diesel 1.9TDI can do on one tank

  • @alanclarkeau
    @alanclarkeau 4 дня назад

    I'm fairly sure that the A/C doesn't run off the engine - I had a Gen4 PRIUS with, more-or-less the same Hybrid Synergy powertrain - it's an electric compressor. And, yes, partly indirectly driven by power created by the ICE, it's also powered by regenerative braking.
    Hypermiling my PRIUS, I'd keep an eye on battery level, and if full, flick the A/C on for a while.

  • @r5LgxTbQ
    @r5LgxTbQ Месяц назад +2

    I wonder how much high efficiency comes from lower engine load vs lower average vehicle speed. I always thought that slowly accelerating for efficiency was a load of pish posh because engines produce the most power per unit of gas at a moderate RPM

  • @mrndnjn
    @mrndnjn Месяц назад

    Love the editing that added to the theatrics.

  • @PaulSuquet
    @PaulSuquet 27 дней назад

    Without any sacrifices (i.e. no AC), I get anywhere from 38-42 mpg on the same car you own; the 4th gen Mazda3. Love that car.

  • @raymond_sycamore
    @raymond_sycamore Месяц назад +1

    It's a nice car. Okay, see, I can be positive too. Great video, thanks Mr. Shooting Cars

  • @Zambranos.Sonidazo
    @Zambranos.Sonidazo Месяц назад

    Cruise control helps a lot on mpgs, that’s what I would use on road trips on my truck

  • @pi.actual
    @pi.actual Месяц назад

    I got 72 mpg with my new Civic hybrid on the way back from Lake Tahoe. Of course it's mostly downhill, I got 31 mpg on the way up so still came out to 51 mpg average and I drove just like a normal guy.

  • @SamVance
    @SamVance 22 дня назад

    You could have cranked the AC, put it on recirculate, then slowly backed off the fan speed & it wouldn’t have made that much of a difference to the MPG. Also, you should try getting behind a semi to reduce wind resistance, which may be even more effective.
    I have a 2021 Hyundai Sonata SEL with a naturally aspirated 2.5L GDI engine & on a rolling restart of my MPG, I can get mid-upper 30’s on the highway going 70-80 with full AC.

  • @A_Gooberman
    @A_Gooberman 10 дней назад

    red lights in the hybrid should be less of a problem for reasons that are clear. I would be interested to see this with the standard edition of the Corolla.

  • @drdorito9083
    @drdorito9083 Месяц назад +1

    That’s pretty impressive, I want to hypermile my Chevy spark, I get around 33mpg with windows down 70mph at 3k rpm

  • @BrettO-Pig
    @BrettO-Pig Месяц назад

    Fun video Zack! I wonder how Toyota feels that you drove a new manufacture plated Corolla in full public view with the hazards on for 3 hours. Lol

  • @truthserum5310
    @truthserum5310 Месяц назад

    Should have done it during the day, not using exterior lighting. The draw of the headlights/lighting places extra load on the car decreasing efficiency. I recently got 52.03 MPG in 480 miles of mixed highway and city driving in a 2025 Camry SE AWD I rented for a week. This was at the end of July when I took a trip to Chicago/Wisconsin. Myself and one passenger the whole time w/AC on. I was incredibly impressed with the Camry.

  • @Buy-n-large
    @Buy-n-large Месяц назад +1

    the AC compressor in toyota hybrids actually is electric and runs off the traction battery

  • @seiser42
    @seiser42 Месяц назад +8

    "they'll run a thinner oil"
    *that Corolla already running 0W16* 🌊

    • @jesusm653
      @jesusm653 21 день назад +2

      Ow-8

    • @divery4eyes
      @divery4eyes 15 дней назад

      @@jesusm653 talked to my mechanic and he is working on a car that needs 0w5

  • @liv6646
    @liv6646 24 дня назад +1

    I get 4.5l/100km (~53 mpg) with AC city traffic/ 60mph highway on my 25 year old french diesel. Why didn't they invest more on diesel engines, being so efficient.

  • @colink4710
    @colink4710 Месяц назад +1

    5:12 casually speeding in a work zone lol

  • @adrianpadilla2155
    @adrianpadilla2155 Месяц назад

    I’ve gotten 72 mpg on a 120 mile trip up and down San Diego in the same exact car USING my AC and lights and all that in ECO. Not sure I would sacrifice AC for worse MPG. Key to the Corolla hybrid is using Eco and Cruise control EVERYWHERE.

  • @spro_halver8553
    @spro_halver8553 12 дней назад

    In my 2020 hyundai Ionic hybrid se i get 61.7mpg over 650 miles.thats with 70-80% highway and 20-30 city driving. Thing has had no issues and is so cheap to drive. picked up for 23k out the door in the beginning of 2021 with 26k miles on it. now nearing 70k miles. no issues. No maintenance other than oil changes and 1 tire rotation. I don't run AC but crack the windows and its alright.

  • @WereCatStudio
    @WereCatStudio 15 дней назад

    I've had my MY23 HEV Corolla for about 6 weeks. Best I've done is 3.3l/100km or around 70mpg on my commute to work which is around 55km (was between 5-10C outside and also winter tires). Typically I'm at between 3.7l to 3.9l though.

  • @dahwheels7105
    @dahwheels7105 Месяц назад +3

    Decontaminate the exterior and apply the car wax that is as slick as possible, this could reduce drag.
    A recommended tire pressure and wheels to be torqued to the recommended specification could keep the wheels as balanced as possible.

    • @rickkern5785
      @rickkern5785 8 дней назад

      Dimple the car like a golf ball, you might get better mileage. If you try this let me know how it works, grin.

  • @rickyALH
    @rickyALH Месяц назад

    You'd love hypermiling in a mk4 tdi; easily hit 60mpg while going 65mph and the ac going too. Wonderful car for long distance driving!

  • @JogieGlenMait16
    @JogieGlenMait16 20 дней назад

    it didn't catch on fire, that's good to see.

  • @livinglastweek
    @livinglastweek Месяц назад

    After using several tanks of gas in my 2017 Elantra I've found that accelerating up to 3.4k rpm then letting it shift is the most fuel efficient way to accelerate, I'm generally not too concerned with mileage but i get about 38mpg without really trying and have gotten up to 52

  • @extralock1045
    @extralock1045 Месяц назад +2

    Hey Zack! Thank you for making this hypermiling video! I found it very interesting!
    Try to hypermile a 2014 to 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage, although it's rated for a lower MPG, I've gotten 59 to 63 MPG out of mine without the AC at 55 MPH, and that happens regularly.

  • @new_nonsense
    @new_nonsense Месяц назад

    I own a Pacifica Hybrid and decided to track the real mpg recently and did a 35 mile trip in Hybrid mode (not phev) and it managed to get 40 mpg with mixed speeds of 70 to 35. Who would've imagined a boat could get 40 mpg lol

  • @raymond_sycamore
    @raymond_sycamore Месяц назад +3

    YOU ARE WEARING A DIFFERENT SHIRT

  • @SoreTv
    @SoreTv 18 дней назад

    I just wish a company would make a diesel-electric hybrid. A small 1.8-3L diesel engine only acting as a generator, with 1 or 2 electric motors in the front. Could easily get 800+ miles of range.

  • @Commandos12
    @Commandos12 Месяц назад +2

    want to see you do one for the jetta. my 2024 6mt jetta has really good mpg