Joy Division - Disorder (Performance From "Control")
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Here's the eighth and last performance from the Ian Curtis biopic "Control".
Copyright: Momentum Pictures
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Ian was literally discharged from the hospital after an overdose just before this show, the poor guy was in no fit state to perform yet he always concealed his pain from his peers. rip ian, a true legend.
It’s not even him hahaha it’s from the movie
@@ewanmcvicar9 We know right
Ewan Mcvicar r/wooosh
Slyceoak __ i was high out of my mind when i wrote that my bad
Love tore us apart. In certain parts of Old Trafford you'll still see tributes to Ian Curtis....and he was a City fan!
I recall reading an interview where the actor who played Ian described how difficult it was because they had Curtis' widow onstage to help them with the character. He said that more than once she addressed him as Ian without realizing it.
Oh god, I would feel so awful if I were Sam when that happened. Ian caused so much pain to Deborah, not to mention the trauma she carried from being the one to discover his body. Having to see the ghost of him in the form of Sam's performance must have been difficult for her.
@@WobblesandBean I personally think that despite how much her relationship with Ian was, she still probably loved him and I can't imagine the struggle she went through with finding his body and having to raise their child without him (Granted Ian was already distant after Natalie was born, but still).
This breaks my heart
Does anyone know where to find this interview?
0:15 I love that scene ''take as long as you need, how long do you need?'' well the whole scene is absolutely intense
that made me laugh brilliant
that made me laugh brilliant
Yes exactly!!!!! I love that scene as well
it so ironic ..
It sums it up, really. we are not big stars. We have to deal with life.
I was at that gig. Mental. Me and Reg got on the guest list. A guy threw a bottle and it hit a chandalier above the stage and the whole place erupted into violence... Hooky and some of the road crew kicked off and I don't blame them. The guy who kept coming on and off was from Crispy Ambulance... We had no idea Ian was epileptic. I have seizures and can't imagine the trauma he was going through. We did a photo session with Anton Corbin who did this film I think? Me and Reg were sweeping up blood and glass after the shortened show. Derby Hall Bury. I think it is now called the Met... We also went to the first New Order Gig. Dave Fielding and Ooshka.xx
Fuck I wish I was you
Dave and Reg from The Chameleons?!
Yes. The gig was sold out. It's an arts centre,/ venue and we knew the guy who ran it. Adrian Mealing. We asked him to put us on the guest list and that's how we got on. We also saw joy Division at the Factory/ Russell club prior to that. One of the most origional and exciting bands I've ever witnessed
We only hung but used to go there regularly. I think John Peel was there too. Ian Curtis was amazing as a singer and frontman. You know when your watching something so origional and awesome. His stage presence was magnetic. We saw The Fall a lot round about the same time. ,"live at the witch trials " being one of my favourite albums. Deeply Vale free festival, the Factory,Manchester poly etc. Again Mark E Smith was a very charismatic origional frontman with a great band. Karl Burns is one of my favourite all time favourite drummers. We both ended up going to Rochdale art college and I worked in advertising after that and then went professional with The Chameleons. Dave Fielding and Ooshka.xx
I meant we were only young. It's so hard to type on a bloody mobile phone.
We also saw early New Order gigs and again after Ian tragically passed away I was amazing at the strength of the remaining members not just to carry on but completely change their style to again a Fresh, origional style. Electronic/ Rock originality. Two of my all time favourite bands. We were lucky enough ( me and Reg) to see them at the iconic Factory club when New Monday was released. I think my last gig was The Mondays about two years ago at The engine shed in Lincoln where I have lived for past 16 years. Again another of my favourite bands. Just when you think youv'e seen it all along comes another origional off the wall band. Shaun and Bez are legends. I got on stage with The Inspiral Carpets there too. I produced their first ever ep. The Train Crash ep. I did 4 out of the 5 tracks. That was an experience I'll never forget. It's the main venue in Lincoln. I have seen the Mondays there a few times, inspiral Carpets, James, The Charlatans and too many others to remember. My favourite band at the moment for again the Charisma and Originality are The Sleaford Mods. Very on the ball bloke...
I like how the actors looked very similar to the band members, imo.
yeah, i know!
+Lord Dagger the black and white help a lot tho but I agree 100% they look very similar this movie was stellar.
I think that’s the point baby
Kirisz.
Ht
"in my fuckoff pocket"
gonna add that to my things to say to someone one day list.
I will say that to my son....if he decides to borrow money from me
...lol
Have you used that yet?
Fun fact: Ians actual daughter was an extra in this scene :)
i think i see her 1:12, second from the right
Wow I didn't know that
@@DanielGonzalez-ez8cbYeah, it certainly doesn't look completely unlike Natalie around that time, that's for sure...
Pretty uncany how shes supposed to see her father
This film broke my heart... I think it's because of the amazing portrayal of Curtis that Sam did
Harry JW. I agree , sam is an awesome actor.
You really should have been there....none of the audience knew. We know now.
It broke my heart too, I cried so much after watching it, I mean to kill himself on the eve of them leaving for an American tour which would have made them big.
He did a great job
It breaks my heart seeing this is what Ian was going through. Rip Ian Curtis. Absolute legend.
“Take as long as you need… how long do you need?”
It initially comes off as comical but this line really does sum up the disconnect that the people around Curtis had when it came to understanding his illness. It’s commendable that the film chose to be so stark in its depictions of his story.
The actors playing the band learnt how to play all the instruments themselves rather than having the audio dubbed over
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Weren't they already musicians except for the guy playing Ian Curtis?
The audio is sadly still dubbed over in this scene, especially the bit where peter hook gets attacked and is somehow still playing
@@tycrase Well, from what I heard the guy playing Ian Curtis was a band member who happened to look a lot like Ian, not an actor. But then again I see this type of stories all over these comment sections so I'm not even sure anymore.
Benjamin Rover From what I know he was a failed musician that became an actor and this was one of his first movies
Sam Riley fucking nailed it.
Jjjajsjs Why the Shakira profile picture
This is like that episode of spongebob where everyone hates squidward but is fascinated by spongebob
Kari Grindstaff hahahahaha fuck off 😂😂
Spongebob had it's dark moments in the beginning. But then nickelodeon fucked a gold cartoon up.
@Sam Armstrong too senile to understand lad
@Sam Armstrong ye you didn't grow up with Spongebob making you too senile to get any references
@Sam Armstrong weirdo
I like how they've used the discography of the tracks to underline important aspects or events in Ian's life. During "Disorder" his own inability to perform was portrayed, for example, and during "Isolation" he was shown alone in the recording booth looking in from the outside at Annik and the others. "Atmosphere" ("Don't walk away insilence...") was played in the suicide scene. You can tell the cinematographers of "Control" really thought about what they were doing.
Atmosphere also chronologically functions as one of the last songs written by Ian and the song that the director filmed a music video for. Couldn't end the movie on a better note
It fits because the director _was_ someone who did do some work with JD. Anton Corbjin did some photos for the group and, as @Sabbathfaxx pointed out, he directed the music video of "Atmosphere".
I'm a huge JD fan and after watching "Control", I sometimes felt like I was watching a documentary because the acting was so good. And I agree 100% with what everyone's saying about Sam Riley's performance as Ian. It's very believeable and the acting in this film is amazing. They aren't lip synching, they're actually performing this and if you think the resemblance is eerie, Sam's acting of Ian's dancing is almost exactly the same. Anton did a great job on the film. Ian, may you rest in peace.
It’s an amazing film
Only if people knew the seriousness of mental health back then
They still dont..
If only they knew "now". Lol
Then? what about amy.
And one of the problems is a belief, especially with younger generations, that everything can be “fixed”. Sometimes it can’t. Some people are outliers and their time with us - and the gift they bring - is fleeting.
Why is being a drug addict always labeled as being a mental illness. What a bunch of pussies now days. He was a fucking drug addict . So was heath ledger . Amy winehouse a drunk . Prince a junkie as well. You want to play with drugs and get hook lee and then play it down to being mentally ill . What a soft bunch of dim wits this snowflake world has become. Oh and come back at me with some bs comment on how I don’t
Know what I’m talking about. I sure do first hand . I was a total freaking drug addict . I liked drugs . Period . Own your shit pussies
Disorder is one of my favorite songs ever... It's so accurate and intense. May you rest in peace, Ian...
Sam Riley should've won an Oscar for this. This movie is incredibly well-done, Corbijn really nailed it
Sam Riley is phenomenal. Ian Would be proud.
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This scene was the hardest scene to watch. something was tearing him up inside, and even his best mates wouldn't help him sort it out. Possibly the most under appreciated bands of manchester music scene era. Even Tony of Granada t.v. took a while to really acknowledge them as well as the stoned roses.
I think it also didn't help that since it _was_ the 80s, I don't think there was any way to help Ian out. Epilepsy was still something not really understood, let alone depression. I still can't imagine what his band mates felt with Ian's death.
I love how agressive the bassist gets when someone tries to attack him and his mates
No one wants to be fucking with Hooky
There’s a scene at the very beginning where the bassist threatens to beat someone’s head in at a bar and then the guitarist says “I’ve seen him do it before” It’s cool they paid it off by making him excessively beat this shit out of that guy
This film has to be one of the best music-based biographical films I have ever seen. Sam Riley nailed the role of Ian and managed to perfectly capture his movements and expressions on stage. It was also very well shot and the absence of color really fit what the movie was going for. The film was a very emotional ride into Ian Curtis' life and did an amazing job conveying the band's story.
- where's my 20 quid?
- in my fuck off pocket!
lol
Amazing quote for centuries hahahahaha
IRON1I7 I love that so much
Just to let people know. Press pause on the 0:01 mark. In the bottom right corner in the front row the second person from the edge of the screen. That is Natalie Curtis, Ian Curtis' daughter. You see her throughout this whole scene at points.
- 0:15 I love that scene ''take as long as you need, how long do you need?''
well the whole scene is absolutely intense.
I love when both of your comments said,
“0:15 I love that scene ‘take as long as you need, how long do you need?’ Well the whole scene is absolutely intense.”
@@07foxmuldershut up
Word for word
Ian’s daughter Natalie is in this scene. Heavy make up and hair slightly up to the lower right of the screen. She would have been 27/28 when they filmed this in 2006. Older than her dad ever got. Must have been surreal for her. Sam was only 26 at the time. Mesmerising performance. Should have won more awards for it really
No, the real story behind this performance was when Hempsall came on, the audience were very angry and some person threw a bottle up to the floor which hit the loose lighting above and caused it to come down and smash onto the audience. The last ever Joy Division performance ended as badly as it had started it seems. :P
A really sad film but a very good film
Scott1433 that is sad doesn't meant that is bad
the sad films are good films
what’s it calle d
A Masterpiece
that basic brunette it’s called control
"Here's 20 quid, go on."
"I want 50."
"Ya fawkuh."
😂
"Where's my 20 quid?"
"In my Fuck-off pocket!"
Who was that guy? 🤣😂
Ya, that's what he said alright.
@@amdhaegar8406 Their manager.
@@chip9649 Not the guy with the glasses, the guy who substitute Ian
It was such a stunning portrayal / portrait. It didn’t just tell the story, it bled, it confessed. A thoughtful film to honour him - and JD’s significant contribution to music.
He has an uncanny resemblance to Ian. An incredible performance.
"Where's me 20 quid?"
"In my _fuck off_ pocket."
"Take as long as you need. How long do you need?". Real artist.
This song was always one of my all time favourites, and this pace makes me wish it was recorded like that in the first place !
He will always be one our British Legends with Freddie Mercury, John Lennon and MANY MANY others ♥... Rest In Peace Ian Curtis and I hope you are in heaven now.....This film will always be so nostalgic & beautyfull at the same time....
What always got me about this scene is that Ian's actual daughter played an extra in the audience, so I can only imagine what it must have been like for her to see a recreation of her father in the last days of his life. Surreal, tragic.
Still come back to this vid every now and then!what a freaking good movie, it’s style of sound in the instruments is pretty unique.
I love this scene, emotional, expecically when Real life Ians Daughter was in the crowd front row.
Do you know which one is her?
Really wish there was a way to listen to a full length version of this version of disorder
This is probably REALLY late, but the closest I could get was from the live album Les Bains Douches
I saw this when it came out & it's still on my top 5! Who knew that the guy who plays Ian would go so far.
to this day Ian...you ll never imagine how we miss you
Joy Division is one of the best bands ever!
"In my FUCK OFF pocket"
- This film broke my heart..
- I think it's because of the amazing portrayal of Curtis that Sam did.
LOL wsp man this movie was amazing Sam looked a lot like Ian rip Ian Curtis he will never be forgotten ❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏
This song to me feels like a transition to another lifetime
In my eyes the best scene in the film,the most intense.
Espescially if one consider the song.
Disorder is just a brilliant superb song!
Love the whole scene!
I still can't get over how well this was made
"Where's my twenty quid?"
"In my 'fuck off' pocket!"
+098kfactor I read that exactly when he said it in the video.
One of the best DAMN songs in Skate 3.
I miss that game to no end
я не могу передать эмоции, это слишком прекрасно, чтобы что-то говорить. вновь у меня текут слёзы.
Really powerful stuff thank you Ian for what you were able to give us for the stress it must have been we are very grateful to you young Sir
This is an amazing song, the bas the guitar the drums and the lyrics. Fucking perfect!!!
JD has to be one of the best bands in history
Wow, he's like Ian incarnate.
i liked joy division ,one of my favorite bands of that time .so sad about Ian ,a tragic loss at such an early age .
Even the biggest joy division fan did complain about this outstanding performance of sam riley
Why didn't they give him blue eye contacts? He would have looked like Ian even more.
Ian had bright green eyes tho i think
Ferdia Hunt Ah. Well either way, I think they should have lightened the eyes.
I've got a feeling that it has something to do with the fact that movie's in black and white
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 I know, but if the actor had really bright eyes like Ian than that would be kinda distracting to me
the movies in black and white????
It staggers me that the rest of the band never really twigged to how deeply Ian's torment ran. From what I gather, they thought the deep dark themes were like a literary creation.. intense, but just a work of fiction.. and they said they never saw warning signs in Ian's behavior before his death. :(
Anyone notice how when Ian goes on stage he starts singing at the wrong time in the song? That always got to me... great movie nonetheless
Gemini Cove what time should he of started singing?
kd He started singing at the 1:44 mark, but should’ve started around 1:47. I guess they wanted to show how disoriented he was in the film.
Gemini Cove sounds the same to me?
surely it was done of purpose
I very clearly remember watching this movie on a plane from Hong Kong to Melbourne. Best plane movie I’ve ever seen, it was such a complete surprise
2:18
The "fucker" is so heartfelt. It's beautiful.
Fantastic vid, good luck!
What you mean by good luck?
@@magcarb5489 good luck
@@TerracedMckenna good luck
good luck
maybe these guys will blow up one day
The film was well made and most of the timeline and events I heard about were included. I liked after they were in the club seeing the Sex Pistols gig Ian was in the street saying,' I hear you need a singer." I knew he was a smoker but wondered if his portrayal was accurate cause he always was smoking a cig. Really sad about Ian. I knew early in the film before Warsaw had made it he had made a mistake when he told his wife they should have a baby. Its like right you hardly have any money plus you're always on the road. You had to feel very bad for everyone like his wife and kid, band and manager, Tony Wilson when he checked out. Glad those guys went on to some success with New Order cause it just wasn't fair what happened on the eve of their U.S. Tour and things were looking up aside from Ian's serious epileptic fits and disillusion about performing and others expectations of him. Its just very sad to this day a young 23 yr old man taking his life and especially leaving his young child fatherless.
Epilepsy, a shit marriage, a kid he never wanted/had the time for. He never knew the band would require so much effort. He didn't want to let down Annika and don't want to be a burden on his wife. Just all drove him to depression.
James Chance i
When the " Scotties" ice cream truck outside was playing JOY DIVISION in 1982, and he was an art student in NYC but in New England for a summer job 😂😎☝🏿🪖🤣🎧😇🗣️👁️👁️👍🏿🐦⬛❤️🩹
*Ian* was so different and outta of this world. Love you, man!
People didn't knew much about mental disorders, distress back then. Really feel bad for Ian and other people who went through it.
Jonny greenwood (radiohead) knows how to sing
They do look alike
I think Jennifer meant the other singer, not Ian. It kinda fits.
Hahaahahhaa
Lmaooo i thought the exact same thing.
Damn Peter Hook tore that guy apart.
Yeah. Hook always looked like the guy you would never want to fuck with.
still does
More like Peter "Right" Hook
Imagine if one of the players had a firearm all hell would break lose
He’s from Weaste. Of course he did.
great movie scene but in reality it didn't go down this way. the riot only happened after the gig when Joy Division were in their dressing room. the gig ended up being a jamming session with Section 25 because Ian could only sing 2 songs. he tried to commit suicide the night before so the gig should have been cancelled
Riot Vans read Peter Hooks book on Joy Division bud. He heard the screaming and went out to help but his wife, barney and Tony Wilson dived on top of him to stop him. He was fuming but in hindsight he knew it was a good idea because he would 'have had his fucking head kicked in'.
Hooky did indeed smack a fan with his bass, but it wasn't at this gig. It was at an earlier joy division show. It's all in his book my friend
@@RedMachineKieran section 25 --research.dear boy,research,
@@jarokalac7723 was obviously a typo dear boy
@@RedMachineKieran no doubt, im sure that the band might eventually forgive your late night fingerdrift.
Estaria bueno que sacaran todas versiones extendidas de los temas, porque esta version de disorder esta bastante buena
From my understanding Hooky/Bernard/Steve actually went to the psych ward Ian was staying in after physically recovering from trying to take his own life by overdosing, had him discharged (back when you could do that sort of thing), and drove right to this show. No wonder the poor fellow couldn't perform.
worst friends ever, bernard and hook never talks about it
Ian, A great voice with so much pain. RIP bro.
Joy division were a brilliant Manchester band.if Ian Curtis had lived they would of been one of the biggest bands of the 80s and 90s.
He portrayed ian so well
2:35 when someone says Post-Punk isn't as good as old Punk
Joy Division is the band that changed old, horrible Manchester. Believe me when I tell you this.
2:18
You tell em to stfu
Punk rock can't sound like sex pistols forever.
@@michaelgraham9774 Tell that to John Lydon lmao
14 years old when the ice cream truck rolled up our street blasting this tape. 😂 he was a goth art student from NYC on summer break. ❤❤❤omG. BOOM YO 😎✔️💥😎 COOLIO 😁💯
Sam Riley was brilliant in this!!
+Sean Williams No
+margus kiis yeah he was stfu..
This film is incredible, this piece is genuine!
The guy who filled in was good O_O
Yeah his voice is actually closer to Ian's voice than Sam RIley's.
Yeah, but usually, good vocals doesn't always mean good stage presence. Lots of people were enamored by Ian and came to see Ian. Not the other guy.
i don't know why I love this vid so much
cant believe i haven't seen this film
my fav track too x)
would kill to see them live now
Wow peter hook has some... hooks
Cuánto me.gusta...amo a joy división!!! 😍😍😍
That face at 2:05 was just him basically just.. "I can't, I'm out".
Poor guy was mentally broken at that point.
Lol this us only a Film, an imitation
Such a brilliant band.
God, I love this song.
- Ian was literally discharged from the hospital after an overdose just before this show, the poor guy was in no fit state to perform yet he always concealed his pain from his peers. rip ian, a true legend!
Sam Riley and the other guys really nailed this, superb, i still have the film and brilliant debutaunt directing by Anton Corbijn, also known so well for his work with dM🔥🔥tY!👍
Shit I just realized that the manager/promoter is Toby Kebbel! He is an outstanding actor. Check him out in Rock N Rolla. Sam Riley is phenomenal in this. Brian Hook splittin skulls! Lol
"take as long do you need how long do you need?"
......
"ready to go out?!?"
lo mas grande joy division
ian curtis genio!!
control
Yeah Sam Riley and the band played all the songs, and yes that is his voice! Superb performance!
Need to rewatch that film! It’s been so long
That's Alan Hempsall from the band Crispy Ambulance who were also on Factory Records
It is Sam Riley's voice here - yeah talk about 'spooky'... This truly has to be one of the best acted films of all time
Thanks! Yeah this video clip just really hit me at the time and I wasn't expecting how it would go. I do want to see it sometime.
the casting couldn't be more perfect
2:14 "I want fifteh!"
"Yeh fookah."
Joy Division.....one of the most influential bands of all time!!!
Sorry but surely not ........... ;(
Philippe Cirse They influenced The Cure, U2, NIN, The 1975 and countless other bands. Plus they did it again as New Order
@@Fili_.I do not deny it .... For my part, I listened to "seventeen seconds" of Cure before JD and I found it great .... U2 I find them anecdotal. It's a question of time and circumstances. Moreover, I am only a modest French musician who is rather oriented towards the wave Prog'70 ;-) Have a good day!
Disorder my Fav Joy Division song!!!
Ian had a way with words that would beautifully impact a person deep. FUCKING awesome.