I did it got my Factor coming used your promo hope you get some kind of credit OH and I tried to charge it you CJRACECARS but that failed lol thanks for the videos and hope to see a hopped up golf cart soon lol
Cletus’s build brought me to your channel. I have to say I’m thankful for that. Your content blows me out every episode. I love how personable you and the crew are. Your craftsmanship is on another level, and very inspirational. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀☮️
Was directed to your channel for the Eagle build and had to subscribe for updates. Turns out quality of the builds, the personalities, the educational side of things and of course the banter between you all, has me hooked. Having Travis behind the camera makes it an even more enjoyable experience 😂 Cheers fellas 🍻🍻🍻🇦🇺
You definitely built a really nice race car. Corey Swanstrom has always praised CJRC and how great of a race car Prenup is. Your team takes great pride in building the best and it shows. Thanks for the videos Cameron.
I used to race Top sportsman in a RJ GTO. I stopped racing in 2009. Your channel is the most interesting and informative Race Car channel on the internet. Things and technology has changed drastically in the last 15 years
Man this is what I've been waiting for. Ever since Justin filmed his build video of y'all building his car... I've been wanting this full time! This is gonna be awesome! Y'all boys are top notch and I love how Travis edits the videos! Good stuff!
looking forward to a build from the ground up. Your setup is a million miles better that most of us could dream of but still learn stuff every video 👍🏻
When I first started watching your channel, I assumed that when Cleetus' car was done, I would unsubscribe. NOPE! Your videos are so well done and your work (as well as the people) is so interesting that I will continue to watch. I'm not a racer but find what you do and how your present it to us to be worth continuing to watch the builds at CJ Race Cars.
No time is cool, but it's not my favorite to watch. The celebrations for the 1/4 mile races are contagious, while the no time stuff is like that was a great run, but I can't show it.😅😅
To test the blower car header downforce, put the car on a hub dyno and put scales on the front tires. Get your base measurement, then measure it while making a dyno pull. Gonna need scales that update pretty quick, though.
Being able to see these incredible machines take shape from start to finish is awesome!!! Your videos let average guys like me take a front row seat in this fascinating technology.
@AB-80X well in general I think turbo cars dont tear up as many parts. Screw cars are very violent. Screw chargers are also very hard to get right now. Cleet is running radials on a prepped track and with the new cold side gates, turbos are running some impressive times. On sketchy surfaces the big hemi turbo combos have kind of fallen out of favor because you can't bring in the power like you can on a prepped surface so the power advantage of the turbo combo cant be realized. But again he's running very prepped surfaces and turbos can put down crazy power.
Screw blower cars were put here by jesus to make everyone smile. Im freakin pumped to see another new build and the tech you share is unmatched! And if there was a way you guys could test the downforce of headers that would be awesome. Maybe get a hub dyno and put load scales under the front tires and run different combos and see. 🤷🏾
hub dyno would get you close, but would be difficult to figure out what was suspension travel and what was downforce with a strain gauge, maybe a engine dyno would be little more accurate with a scale, but there are quiet a few variables, how long the pipe is, how far away is it from the pivot point from the outlet (where its tied off or mounted). the angle of the pipe outlet, does wind speed effect it. does front suspension travel effect it, lots of questions.
I pray that your channel grows enough to have a assembly line for your style of chassis builds.top notch builds. PS I'd come work on that assembly line when you get there 😊
For testing the downforce generated by the exhaust, I always figured putting the car on top of scales while running on a dyno, you could read the "weight gain"
I would think that would be very difficult. The cars are strapped down hard to secure them on the dyno. Not sure how you would secure the car without effecting the weighing of it
@twistedcitizen5739 great question, and I agree it's hard. I think load cells under the hub dyno packs would probably work best. That way no downward strap pressure is factored.
@@randallmason9687 Steve tried it, but he had no results because he made some fundamental flaws. When your turbo intake faces up, and you exhaust tips do the same, you are cancelling the effect. And he only did it on the three step. There's a lot of difference in what air an engine moves at 5000 rpm and 14 psi and 8000 rpm at 60 psi. Also. the turbo takes out a lot of energy from the exhaust gases. It's like sticking a power turbine in the back of a jet engine and expecting it to make thrust. A blower car expels all the energy into the exhaust, and lots of it.
Places scales under front tires while on a hub dyno. The scales will show the differences in focus down. Only problem is sometime mid and lower end scales get interference from noise.
A lot of their stuff is hand fabricated with years of experience doing it. There is also a second Channel you can go for more technical aspects of everything
Make a safe, repeatable pass with zoomies, record shock data.. swap the ends of the zoomies out for weed burners, since they are aimed straight on a horizontal plane the should not make downforce, record shock data. my shirt size is XL. your welcome
@@TronVila Pretty sure somebody could figure it out mathematically using the shock data. . Even better if done on a hub dyno No downforce from aero. Traction and chassis reaction is taken out of the equation.
To figure downforce from exhaust, run them on a chassis dyno with a set of scales under the front tires. Might not be exact due to torque trying to pick the front end but would give general idea
@j_wide583 then you use a hub dyno if your that concerned with tearing up a set of tires. And I believe @stevemorrisracing might even be interested in helping you out with that one
Okay the fact that you immediately referenced prenup without referencing prenup I'm really starting to wonder if Suwannee hasn't moved away from Wizard and moved back to you which would be awesome he just announced he's building another car and this seems to match his signature package pretty dang good
Front travel sensors on the shock should show some data on the header theory, I'd think. Hell they probably make some sort of dedicated downforce sensor already lol. I'm super curious.
Hopefully by next year's start of the race season there gonna be some big changes no prep has been taken over by these tube chassis cars and about made it impossible for the small guys to compete but change is coming
If you test the down force of different combos you should also test a turbo car with a collector going into zoomies. I believe daddy dave had the Audi done like that for a short time.
30yrs ago when pro mod was fairly new, they made the blower cars heavier. The Man running the series said that he did not want a field of slower funny cars.
Show us more on setting up the frame jig. I’ve never quite understood how they help besides measurements and a square surface. I’m no welder or chassis guy either obviously
Hey Cameron... I have a few PSI's ... what size are they looking for those cars... I have a few different sizes also. Let me know young man if you choose. I love what you ate doing lately! Respectfully, Seth
few things look meaner than the quad butterfly intake hat its just the most angry looking thing ever and makes the most bad ass looking photos ever taken i never understood the big difference with the 3 round vs the 4 square
Hey brother getting busy with some top dollar cars congratulations. Be safe 🙏 love it or leave it 🇺🇲. Hope the family is well. Your kid is probably getting big now. Hope they are going into the family business.
Sure Eagle is what got me here but thats not what got me to subscribe and keep watching, it was the fact that you guys show and explain what's going on and are working on cool stuff
I hope it was 7am when you opened bay door to move cars around....lol...after 35 years working in Texas heat ...now my doors in shop with AC only open first thing in morning to move things around...
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I did it got my Factor coming used your promo hope you get some kind of credit OH and I tried to charge it you CJRACECARS but that failed lol thanks for the videos and hope to see a hopped up golf cart soon lol
Screw blowers was what they ran back in the day on nitromethane dragsters ?
James Tall is the only no time I've heard of🤔
❤🎉
Cletus’s build brought me to your channel.
I have to say I’m thankful for that.
Your content blows me out every episode.
I love how personable you and the crew are.
Your craftsmanship is on another level, and very inspirational.
🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀☮️
Thank you 🙏🏻
Prenup brought me here
Was directed to your channel for the Eagle build and had to subscribe for updates. Turns out quality of the builds, the personalities, the educational side of things and of course the banter between you all, has me hooked. Having Travis behind the camera makes it an even more enjoyable experience 😂
Cheers fellas 🍻🍻🍻🇦🇺
Let’s go 💪🏻
@@CJRaceCars let’s, I’m here for it 👌
You definitely built a really nice race car. Corey Swanstrom has always praised CJRC and how great of a race car Prenup is. Your team takes great pride in building the best and it shows. Thanks for the videos Cameron.
Got here directly after watching Cleetus and Consuela hurricane relief content. Another race car build, LETS GO!
Haha, me too. It was a tough choice, but ultimately I had to see what was going on in NC.
@@Evil_Clown83 he brought awareness to the devastation. I don't watch tv, his video was first I've seen of it. my other comment to you was deleted!
@Evil_Clown83 Bad take brother. He's as genuine as it gets. I'm sure he has donated money.
Same
Where’s the golf cart??
I used to race Top sportsman in a RJ GTO. I stopped racing in 2009. Your channel is the most interesting and informative Race Car channel on the internet. Things and technology has changed drastically in the last 15 years
Man this is what I've been waiting for. Ever since Justin filmed his build video of y'all building his car... I've been wanting this full time! This is gonna be awesome! Y'all boys are top notch and I love how Travis edits the videos! Good stuff!
Let’s go 💪🏻
I seriously love this channel, the knowledge you have about race cars is insane!
looking forward to a build from the ground up. Your setup is a million miles better that most of us could dream of but still learn stuff every video 👍🏻
Hopefully we can document it a lot better now with Travis being full time
When I first started watching your channel, I assumed that when Cleetus' car was done, I would unsubscribe. NOPE! Your videos are so well done and your work (as well as the people) is so interesting that I will continue to watch. I'm not a racer but find what you do and how your present it to us to be worth continuing to watch the builds at CJ Race Cars.
Interesting facts ! Looking forward to this build .
Sweet can't wait for this build Cameron .
I was waiting for the jig counter. 😂
😂😂😂😂
I was waiting for screw blower counter
I'm glad you are getting business. Love your channel
Justins lexus was kicking ass when they won that 200k
hope we get more stuff on cjrc2 channel, all the technical details
Kinda sounds like a car for Justin Swanstrom
No time is cool, but it's not my favorite to watch. The celebrations for the 1/4 mile races are contagious, while the no time stuff is like that was a great run, but I can't show it.😅😅
Not a blower person,but hard to beat the sound of a blower deal at 1/4 stripe
Screw blown cars are the scariest drag cars I've ever been around, no bumping in, no wind up, as Clay would say, just "stomp on that LOUD pedal!". 🤘
screw blowers are my favorite can't wait to follow along with it
Sounds like a cool build. Hope you guys get to do more stuff for cleeters channel too. You guys are killin' it.
Love all of the updates been here since you built Justin’s first Lexus and love the content
Let’s go 💪🏻
Can’t wait to see this new build start to finish thanks for sharing 👍👍👌👌🇬🇧🇬🇧
To test the blower car header downforce, put the car on a hub dyno and put scales on the front tires. Get your base measurement, then measure it while making a dyno pull. Gonna need scales that update pretty quick, though.
Cleet fan still watching!!
Let’s go 💪🏻
Being able to see these incredible machines take shape from start to finish is awesome!!! Your videos let average guys like me take a front row seat in this fascinating technology.
As a fan screw cars are the best. Just nasty and loud! I understand why cleet went turbo but i was really hoping he was going to go screw blown
I don't understand why he went turbo. What do you mean when you say that?
@AB-80X well in general I think turbo cars dont tear up as many parts. Screw cars are very violent. Screw chargers are also very hard to get right now. Cleet is running radials on a prepped track and with the new cold side gates, turbos are running some impressive times. On sketchy surfaces the big hemi turbo combos have kind of fallen out of favor because you can't bring in the power like you can on a prepped surface so the power advantage of the turbo combo cant be realized. But again he's running very prepped surfaces and turbos can put down crazy power.
Screw blower cars were put here by jesus to make everyone smile. Im freakin pumped to see another new build and the tech you share is unmatched! And if there was a way you guys could test the downforce of headers that would be awesome. Maybe get a hub dyno and put load scales under the front tires and run different combos and see. 🤷🏾
Definitely like to find a good way to test it.
hub dyno would get you close, but would be difficult to figure out what was suspension travel and what was downforce with a strain gauge, maybe a engine dyno would be little more accurate with a scale, but there are quiet a few variables, how long the pipe is, how far away is it from the pivot point from the outlet (where its tied off or mounted). the angle of the pipe outlet, does wind speed effect it. does front suspension travel effect it, lots of questions.
Fletcher Cox building a screw blown camaro with CJRC cause he seen what Prenup and Swangang did to em in Texas???? 🙃😆🤣 🤷♂️
😅😳
Heard swan is building a screw car aswell. Maybe this is it?
@@kornbreadmafiadefinitely his.
I pray that your channel grows enough to have a assembly line for your style of chassis builds.top notch builds. PS I'd come work on that assembly line when you get there 😊
For testing the downforce generated by the exhaust, I always figured putting the car on top of scales while running on a dyno, you could read the "weight gain"
Someone tried that about a year ago. I can't remember if it was Steve Morris, or one of the other drag racing RUclipsrs.
I would think that would be very difficult. The cars are strapped down hard to secure them on the dyno. Not sure how you would secure the car without effecting the weighing of it
@twistedcitizen5739 great question, and I agree it's hard. I think load cells under the hub dyno packs would probably work best. That way no downward strap pressure is factored.
@@randallmason9687
Steve tried it, but he had no results because he made some fundamental flaws. When your turbo intake faces up, and you exhaust tips do the same, you are cancelling the effect. And he only did it on the three step. There's a lot of difference in what air an engine moves at 5000 rpm and 14 psi and 8000 rpm at 60 psi.
Also. the turbo takes out a lot of energy from the exhaust gases. It's like sticking a power turbine in the back of a jet engine and expecting it to make thrust. A blower car expels all the energy into the exhaust, and lots of it.
It's cool seeing you guys build these cars. Keep up the awesome content you guys are crushing it.
Places scales under front tires while on a hub dyno. The scales will show the differences in focus down. Only problem is sometime mid and lower end scales get interference from noise.
I bet it’s Swanstroms car because I remember him saying in a recent video that he was getting a new car built
Eagle being for cleet didn’t cause me to watch the whole series (so far). Point being: I don’t care whose car it is, just make the videos!
We are going to keep doing this long term for sure 💪🏻
@@CJRaceCarsi will keep watching.
Lmfao facts
CJRC,y'all rock! Love the channel and content. Peace
Kye Kelly has a good looking race car. I like the look of it. I can't wait for the next one bro.
Love the sound of these things. So awesome.
They do sound really rowdy
Fletcher Coz got beat by a CJ racecars blower car and said the hell with it build me one!
You guys build killer stuff 🤘 can’t wait to see this one come together
Can't wait to see this build.
Absolutely love this! Thanks for sharing!!!
Prenup for the win!
Glad to see you guys building cars again.
Can't wait to see the car dudes. Have fun!
I’m really interested in how much downforce the headers will make,definitely gonna be on the lookout for that video!
Thank CJRC for making us busy watching your video coming Non-Stop ! 😊👍
Let’s go 💪🏻
Please talk / show some of the CAD that goes into engineering all those variables you're talking. about in the video
A lot of their stuff is hand fabricated with years of experience doing it. There is also a second Channel you can go for more technical aspects of everything
You could put the scales under the front tires to see which combination makes more down force. On a Dyno of course
Awesome! Another build!
Can’t wait to see this one finished!👀💪🏼
😎
Love the show keep it going
Been wanting to to see a build from scratch including setting up the chassis table
Thanks for sharing 😊.
Awesome keep building 🚀
Jack stand jimmy is a no time racer. Is this Jack Stands car?
😳
not likely he has a pair of cars he runs
Jack stand is a nitro guy
I'm not sure about that with the emoji that the Cameron posted this just might be jack stands car.
That would be cool he's a hell of a wheelman I'd like to see him in a pro built car
I really like y’all’s content
I want a full build on the golf cart. What we've seen it looks really cool.
It’s getting close 😎
Jackstand getting a pro no time
Put the cars on the chip while on the scales, then do some slomo frame for frame down the track
That clip caught me off guard holly crap!! 😂
thanks for sharing cjrc.
Thanks for watching 💪🏻
Make a safe, repeatable pass with zoomies, record shock data.. swap the ends of the zoomies out for weed burners, since they are aimed straight on a horizontal plane the should not make downforce, record shock data. my shirt size is XL. your welcome
“Shock data” is only a travel sensor, they don’t measure pressure
@@TronVila Pretty sure somebody could figure it out mathematically using the shock data. . Even better if done on a hub dyno No downforce from aero. Traction and chassis reaction is taken out of the equation.
To figure downforce from exhaust, run them on a chassis dyno with a set of scales under the front tires. Might not be exact due to torque trying to pick the front end but would give general idea
You can't really run these cars on a chassis dyno, it would tear the tires to shreds
@j_wide583 then you use a hub dyno if your that concerned with tearing up a set of tires. And I believe @stevemorrisracing might even be interested in helping you out with that one
That's not gonna work steve morris already tried it.
Steve Morris already tried and it didn’t work.
Can't love this enough.... Hooochargers
There was a Guy on a Steve Morris video while back that said how when Steve was talking about it on the wagon on how to do down force
I’ve heard he did a video. I need to try and find it
When Steve morris tried to do it. Didn't work out as he planned
@@nathanbutler8240 He really didnt try much but a guy on one video as Steve said did explain how in a msg
Year of the first gen Camaro. Follow the leader as usual in drag racing
Definitely a popular body.
Your username is radial racer but your comment has proven you are in fact, not a radial racer
It would be interesting if you could explain how the roll cage works in the event of a crash. Especially the drivers cage.
New project yes let’s go!
Okay the fact that you immediately referenced prenup without referencing prenup I'm really starting to wonder if Suwannee hasn't moved away from Wizard and moved back to you which would be awesome he just announced he's building another car and this seems to match his signature package pretty dang good
😅
Sounds like you got your finger right on the pulse 👍
Hell yeah brother!!! 💯❤🔥 that engine does look super beefy and cool, will be cool seeing the first bits going together💯❤🔥
Honestly I would have liked to see Cleet do a blower. But either way it's gonna be badass. Is this new build for JS?
Owner doesn’t want to be known yet but at some people they will be good with us telling who they are 😎
Front travel sensors on the shock should show some data on the header theory, I'd think. Hell they probably make some sort of dedicated downforce sensor already lol. I'm super curious.
I mean you could put the scales under the front tire on the Dyno. That would give you some idea of how much down force they put on the front.
Hopefully by next year's start of the race season there gonna be some big changes no prep has been taken over by these tube chassis cars and about made it impossible for the small guys to compete but change is coming
They sound awesome 👍
love the sound of these screw blown cars nothing pleases me more than hearing those zoomies going loud
I'd safely say you're building this car for 'fletcher Cox'!
Hahaha that would be rad. Prenup ran out of his life and he called cameron!
😳
@@rubberneck67 ran out of his life is a stretch,, race looked like it was a few hundredths apart max
Keep the content coming ! Love the videos
Thank you 💪🏻
2:39, maybe getting on 2-step while on the scales?
If you test the down force of different combos you should also test a turbo car with a collector going into zoomies. I believe daddy dave had the Audi done like that for a short time.
30yrs ago when pro mod was fairly new, they made the blower cars heavier. The Man running the series said that he did not want a field of slower funny cars.
CJRC =
Cameron Johnson Race Camaros
Camaro Johnson Race Cars
Lately it feels that way lol
Have to put scales on the front tire while it’s on a hub dyno. That should give you the down force calculations
Isn’t that Justin Swanstrom’s old engine Big Country posted that exact same car last week
Yepp.
They make a lot of difference,more than expected that's why NHRA they can only be at a certain degree of angle.
Yepp
Will it be finished by March? Big Jake's 105K to win!!!
200k in a weekend 😮.
That’s some payoff for the winner.
Big pay day for sure
few good weekends car would be paid for!
It was swanstrom
Yea that probably paid for half his car
Show us more on setting up the frame jig. I’ve never quite understood how they help besides measurements and a square surface. I’m no welder or chassis guy either obviously
We will definitely do that.
Hey Cameron... I have a few PSI's ... what size are they looking for those cars... I have a few different sizes also. Let me know young man if you choose. I love what you ate doing lately!
Respectfully, Seth
Should be an interesting build. Car for Fletcher Cox?
Is for James from cletusus
few things look meaner than the quad butterfly intake hat
its just the most angry looking thing ever and makes the most bad ass looking photos ever taken
i never understood the big difference with the 3 round vs the 4 square
Hey brother getting busy with some top dollar cars congratulations. Be safe 🙏 love it or leave it 🇺🇲. Hope the family is well. Your kid is probably getting big now. Hope they are going into the family business.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Sure Eagle is what got me here but thats not what got me to subscribe and keep watching, it was the fact that you guys show and explain what's going on and are working on cool stuff
Thanks for the sub 💪🏻
Can’t wait to see the next car 🦅
Could u use a digital fish weighing scale attached to the frame from above and put really soft springs in on hub dyno to read down force
You guys are doing great on the videos. You've got a loyal follower in me now 😊
🙏🏻💪🏻
I hope it was 7am when you opened bay door to move cars around....lol...after 35 years working in Texas heat ...now my doors in shop with AC only open first thing in morning to move things around...
Yeah it lets the AC out fast lol
Blap it on a set of scales, weigh bridge, you should see an effect of the down force perhaps worth measuring for a rough guess.