LIKE if you think converting to electric is a way of preserving classic cars & SHARE if you think all new cars should be electric This might look like a classic red Ferrari 308 GTS but it has one little secret - its 100% electric. While some will see this conversion of such a classic car as controversial, it's now a faster, lighter and more practical car which gets far more usage than its combustion engine predecessor. This classic Ferrari was lovingly converted by Richard Morgan and the team at Electric Classic Cars and Robert was warned to be careful when he took it for a drive as its a 'bit lively!'. This high performance car now has an impressive 500 horsepower and is both exhilarating and terrifying to drive (see Robert's face for proof). So looking to the future, could converting to electric be the solution to preserving these incredible classic cars? Electric Classic Cars - www.electricclassiccars.co.uk/ Fully Charged is 100% independent thanks to RUclips Memberships and Patreons. Without you this channel wouldn’t be possible! If you’d like to help support the Fully Charged channel and its mission: Become a Patreon: www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a RUclips member: use JOIN button above Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Fully Charged PLUS channels Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0 Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/ Visit our LIVE exhibitions in the UK, USA & Europe: FullyCharged.Show/events Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: FullyCharged.Show Find us on Twitter: twitter.com/fullychargedshw Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/fullychargedshow *Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 1:15 Out for a drive 1:51 Fun but frightening 2:27 Speed? what speed? 3:14 Bonkers stats 3:52 Stepped acceleration 5:10 Easy village driving 6:22 History of the conversion 7:25 A new lease of life 8:21 Battery in, engine out 9:33 Conversion costs 11:31 Before and after stats 13:05 Bonus car noises 14:48 Ferrari powered house? 16:33 Preserving classic cars by conversion 17:11Subscribe, support, join
I think its more respectful to the car, to give it a new life, rather then letting it rot in a garage. If you can't use it then its not a car, it loses it's soul.
You lose the excellent Ferrari engine sound, plus the driving experience of shifting gears. If you want to modernize a classic Ferrari, build in a modern Ferrari V8 engine. Still not the same, but a lot better than turning it into a vacuum cleaner.
I understand wanting some money back from selling the parts and helping maintaining other cars but I would have preferred to make a glass coffee table with the engine block underneath. A bit of industrial design as art to remember our past :-)
Currently working on an old midas mk2 (1981 vintage), it uses a mini front subframe and has a GRP monocoque... Looking at the swind hdpe a little more seriously as each day passes. Always going electric.
One of the best episodes this year. Would hope for a whole series on these converted classics. Also on practical level like Volvo v70 family car into electric version
Check out the show Electric Classic Cars made called Vintage Voltage, it's just that. Moggy is a great presenter, credit to @fullychargedshow for giving him a platform.
Yes I'm pretty dismayed by the lack of electric estates on the market, perfect suburban car in my opinion, there's no need for crossovers (although they are getting shorter and more estate like), and definitely no need for an suv unless I'm overlanding.
If i was in this gentlemens position I would do the same in a heartbeat, it's an excellent way to keep these classic cars on the road and exciting. Robert reading out the stats, accompanied by his own sound effects are why i love fully charged.
I think with all things considered... the owner is completely right! This is a beautiful car but not an ultra-rare collectible. When I heard he had done 8 miles in a year, it made me so sad... I understand why but I just think, seeing cars like this on the road makes me so so excited. It's tiring seeing Astra, c class, 3 series, Corsa, Yaris... but imagine seeing more Ferraris, old rally cars, Masseratis... OH IT'S EXCITING! Thank you fully charged for keeping up the good word of our Lord and saviour EV :D
I could not agree with you more. Absolutely, imagine seeing all those classics coming back onto the street.... and kicking your butt at the traffic lights.
Yes absolutely i love the look of old Apha Romeos my sister had a lovely one but even though she was married to a very good mechanic it was too unreliable. Be great to see these become better cars.
Bearing in mind the speedo needle starts at 10! I've had one, and the speedo electrics are a weak point, but you can tell the speed from the tone of the (combustion) engine.
All I can say is, if Enzo had this kind of power and performance available when he was alive, do you think he would ignore it? He would be right there trying to make it even FASTER!
That's a good point, with his acting ability he should be able to make up the only shortfall of a project like this by driving around shouting Brrrrrmmmmmmm!
@@thinfourth well he’s done the one on the MGB new build EVs. We find out it’s raining half a dozen times and how much he dislikes petrol MG just about as many times. Not why , just that he does repeatedly. For that matter why he chose a rainy day to fill a convertible isn’t mentioned either. Jonny gets tedious quickly.
A great video - loved the end of the intro as you unleashed the beast and provided the soundtrack by howling!! 😂😂😂 Stunning conversion of an iconic car 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
This is a really good episode, one's preconceptions change when you hear the owner out. The owner also seems to have been influenced by Fully Charged so without this show it is not easy to say if this project would have come about. I could have done with a double length show with the owner telling us a bit more about himself. What will be interesting is if this particular car with its on screen presence in this episode and having been converted by one of the pioneers has more value in a decade to come than the petrol burning variants.
What a beautiful car, looks like a really professional conversion. Available in any colour as long as it's Red. One of these cars that always puts a smile on your face, either just looking at it and even more when driving it.
When engines die and the car is still otherwise serviceable, this is a potentially great option! As stated here, there will be people after engines, so extracting those parts to be a doner for another car isn't a bad thing. You actually end up with MORE of these classics still working and on the road rather than rotting in a barn.
People should realize more that older cars aren't that comfy to drive, so replacing things like suspension or engine isn't "killing" those cars. Every time i look at someone restoring old car and they do some modifications, everybody in comments says they destroyed that car and it should have original parts. There are people that prefer having actually usable car, not showpiece, after all, they bought it and they can do what they want with it. Conversion like this are great for people that still want to use original parts since they will have a lot more options now.
I totally agree! Some times using original fit parts is potentially dangerous. You wouldn't use asbestos brake pads now and you wouldn't say it was sacrilege to use a modern alternative instead. Also things like The oil used. Tech has gotten better and while I appreciate the importance of maintaining at least one example of pivotal or iconic technology for posterity, keeping them all stock is unnecessary. It's analogous to where tradition may hold back progress in other situations. We shouldn't do things how they've been done before, purely for that reason.
This would be a great way to boost the kit car scene. Instead of trying to wang an old Ford 4-pot into a fibreglass lancia delta knockoff, make it electric and get it driving just right.
@@scarlettsgarage1 Looking to do exactly that. Bought a 1981 Midas with exactly that intention. As soon as you are paying to convert a car, whatever idea you had about value go out the window, just pick a car you love and go for it. Its going to be closer to 40k for me, for a car that isn't worth 5... @MidasTwo.
@@scarlettsgarage1 People will spend £60K just doing up a VW Bus, so it’s not going to be an issue for everyone. And as other posters have said, it’ll get cheaper as the batteries survive more and more successive write offs by enthusiasts with heavy right foots/feet(???).
Yes, in 10 years he takes it in and has a solid state battery put in with 200 kw and loses some more weight and it accelerates even faster for another 20 years.
Although a big part of me says it's sacrelig! But this is the future and when you take an 80s ferrari that isn't strictly a popular classic and do this to it its fantastic I love this idea!
Why can't all electric cars do that out of the box? Most of them have batteries that make a Tesla Power Wall look like a toy. I never understood why that would be, after all I can add panels and a micro-inverter without drama.
It isn't feasible to build mass market EVs (or gas) that look as cool as an old ferrari... Crash safety standards mean that high performance very expensive materials are required.
There's a reason exotic cars aren't cheap. New Tesla Roadster is being built as an EV from ground up and is expected to be >$200k. Your best hope for a svelte affordable sports EV may be if Mazda makes an electric successor to the Miata, which would still be at least >$50k.
This is an awesome conversion. It improved this model exponentially. It was a troubled platform from the start. You now remove all the unreliability and you’re able to enjoy it for what it is. Kudos to the owner! 👏🏻👍🏻
Getting all the internal combustion and fuel parts into the 2nd hands market and essentially contributing to keeping other original ferraris alive is brilliant. Its a win-win scenario here. What an amazing episode.
This was the car i wanted as a kid. After seeing this I want this version ! If I miss the sound of the V8 I’ll play a recording on the radio. Can we do a Renault Traffic with this performance? Much more useful 😂
Stunning. The 308 was always my dream car as a kid. All it's missing is some speakers fitted in the back to simulate the engine noise, and you've lost nothing.
@@MartiniPinball That's right... it's better than a Ferrari! It's a super Ferrari! The first actual supercar of Ferrari. Maybe the company will take notice and start making electric cars in their factory? Probably not
And then they put a milkfloat engine in it! I used a carburettor version of this as a daily driver. Driven frequently, they don't break down! Unfortunately most Ferraris, especially the older ones see the road about 2 months a year if they're lucky as they're part of a bigger collection.
@@dcarbs2979 There's always more to the story - interesting! So if I ever own an antique Ferrari I must drive it every day to keep it running well. Sounds alright to me!
@@justin_time Same with any old car. They were built to be *driven*! The owner said himself one year he only did the return trip to the MOT station (8 miles). Reliability problems are inevitable with such little use. When I buy my cars over 20 years old, I get concerned when they've done LESS than 100k. Rather have a stellar mileage well-maintained car than low mileage one that's been sat seizing up for decades.
Brilliant! Perfect use-case of current technology to give new life to my favourite Ferrari model, which is the successor to the ultimate tribute car: the Dino 246 from Enzo for his son. You've brought years to my eyes, of joy and nostalgia - 4 does down from my childhood home, a guy i knew in my trends had a white 308 GTS. I used to get paid to clean it when he was attending a Concourse d'Elegance with me in the passenger seat (yes he was an older man with a young man for a partner) and i never felt as happy through that part of my life than when I was in that seat. Thankyou so much guys, this is what needs to happen to all of the classic cars and even the great antiques still being used regularly, of which there are many here in Melbourne.
I wasn’t thinking that I would enjoy this video watching an old Ferrari converted into an EV but I was stunned by the beauty of it, authentic air of an old sport car with the modern electric heart in it. I wish to see more of such converted classic cars. Very impressive!
@@robbiestevens6913 New series? I was not aware of that. Does it have Tom Selleck? Or have they done what they did with that Knight Rider 2000 nonsense?
I have no problem with swapping the engine to electric. Great way to proglong the life of classics and making them actually usable. Great stuff. All I need is a Citroen SM with a blown engine, and some spare dosh.
Personally, I'm highly appreciate of having this option to keep these classics going an relevant, the fact that is better is a pleasant benefit, I suspect there will be a very short list of cars that you just wouldn't do this too, a Veyron for instance. I'd love to be there the moment he parks this in a charging bay at a supermarket and someone goes to have a go at him because they think they are being ICEd.
@Vladimir Putin one reason to like classic cars is the extra layer of engagement they provide over even modern petrol cars. This is lost with an electric vehicle, even if it’s better in refinement and speed. Another thing, The usage case for classics is often long drives to car shows. If you have to stop twice on the way to recharge, then that’s objectively worse in my view.
@@dizzy2020 you could program the engine controller to stall and fail if you don't apply the choke properly. I don't know if the austin 7 had a manual spark advance like the model T, but it probably would not be that much work to figure out how to completely emulate the pain of trying to run an old ICE.
@Vladimir Putin but it takes 5-mins to fill up, which is acceptable when you are convoying with a load of mates doing the same. If you are charging your car for an hour or more you can no longer travel with your friends, and that’s less time at the show. You can’t smell the exhaust from inside the car can you? Brake and tyre particulates are produced by electric cars as well. Generally people like the noise, otherwise Ferrari wouldn’t angonise and spend millions developing their exhaust.
Beaty and the electrical beast! Fantastic! Wish I had a "time" to get something like that. The problem, here(Switzerland) is super complicated to do homologation for it. Kudos to Richard and his team.
Great video love the idea. old classics are great to see on the road by other people but for those that own them it’s a constant tinkering and fettling to keep them running and then they can and often do break down. To me unless it’s a really valuable classic of which you wouldn’t drive it this the best thing you can do to something like this. Old cars when new were unreliable so this way you can have your beautiful looking classic and drive it knowing it won’t breakdown.
I would argue that without the Ferrari engine, it is now an electric Pininfarina, as they designed the body. I'd rather have this than one with an unreliable old IC engine. :D
@@poplaurentiu4148 I'm not sure. Enzo cared about winning. He sold sports cars to have money for racing, all that mattered for him was putting his name at the top in the next race.
Well done to the owner. A great choice, a pioneer. And the home storage in a 308 shaped box is a great idea. Also the engine could have made a lovely ornament.
It's beautiful it's wonderful makes more sense seeing one of those on the road where it does not make noise as it goes past practical because you can use it a lot more and not worry about maintenance the biggest cost with one of those I love it
On an unrelated note, observe how natural it is to have two blokes separated by the topic of discussion. No masks required, they're more than two meters apart. Why so far? Because they're talking about a car. Where is the car? Right between them. And we have view perspectives face on to each with an expanse of Rosso Corsa to move the conversation along. This is motoring reporting in the Age of Covid, and it's quite elegantly well done. To your videographers, Robert, I lift my glass.
I find it a disgrace to remove the beating heart and frankly an engineering masterpiece like the Ferrari V8 engine from a classic car like this. If it’s not your daily driver, appreciate the engineering and keep it classic. Use electric on your daily commute, and keep your hands of classic cars like this. There is so much value in the sound and smell of an old car.
And there are those who don’t really know how to Drive a proper sports car and do this kind of Things!!! I don’t care about extra HP. You’ve taken all The fun from really driving and feeling the work of art that is the gear lever on a Ferrari!! Humanity deserves what’s coming to Them After this kind Of things happen!! Absolutely RIDICULOUS !! 🤬
Having recycled the engine etc for other cars this makes sense to me too, I had a motor bike that did very few miles and loved it but ended up.selling it because the cost of keeping it running wasn't worth it, if I had that now I would defo convert it and get more use out of it, might look round for a bike to convert, my ebike conversions are great fun.
Slightly random, but had the pleasure of talking to Robert at a trade show in the mid 2000s. My editor at a magazine spotted him and demanded I go and talk to him in case he had something interesting to say. Didn't have a clue what to ask him about, so started a conversation about cars instead! Even back then he seemed incredibly passionate about tech, cars and idea of electric vehicles - is fantastic to see that passion alive and well with the Fully Charged Show 15 years on.
I love the idea of converting classic cars, and I think that rather than scrap or sell the old engine, it should be cleaned up and put in a lovely cabinet to show off it's history. It is still a lovely example of the best of technology for its time. Well done for a great show. Love fully charged.
That's like me saying "they did a video on a Subaru and not one person used a hypodermic needle for heroin, what a disgrace" There never was anything graceful about self harm to begin with 🤔
I am in love with the music!! Where can I find it? I believe electric is a brilliant solution for travel however, as a true petrol head I will SERIOUSLY miss the visceral experience of a combustion engine yet, the advantages of electric and hydrogen as far as I have researched are undeniable!! Great work Robert (and team) as always you are a hilariously, animated and a completely bonkers presenter but, boy do you make this channel alive. God bless and keep up the good work!!🙏🏿🙌🏿👍🏾😁
Much of the charm of a classic sports car is the engine- the sound, the rumbles, the kinks - but replacing it with an electric drive train suddenly makes it a practical driver.
@@gerardrbain1972 It's a sports car. The old acceleration is still fine these days. Now if you're talking about a classic VW beetle for instance, then the acceleration is a bit unpractical.
I guess the charm and practicallity depends on if you want the classic car experience/hobby or just an interesting car to drive. I suspect it will depend on the car and how good they were originally and what role you want it to play. but, if its this or a second hand porche to drive to work or as a daily I know I'd pick this.
It’s good to know that cars can be retro fitted to be electric. I love the smile on your face when you are driving it 😄 I have a 4 year old VW Golf GTE and that has 204bhp (so nowhere near 500+ of the Ferrari), but when I’m driving it, I too have a smile across on my face so I know a little bit of what you are experiencing 😃 I absolutely love my hybrid EV 💚
This is not just a EV conversation, it's an upgrade! I have only considered about campervan EV to be home batteries, but it totally makes sense for sports cars as well.
Why not just create a replica shell then? The shell could be lighter if made with modern materials. You wouldn't go into a museum and hollow out marble statues and replace the insider with a lighter material to make it easier to move. These cars are historic pieces of art, they were never designed to be daily drivers.
@@Baseless_ if it were a statue that was subject to be moved around very often, I don't see why would be bad to make it easier to move, as long as the visible shell is the same, and the material strength is still preserved. The new core could even improve the strength as reinforcement if using smart choices of composites. I really don't understand the obsession of keeping old stuff as is, just because it is old. I understand that some things have sentimental value, but this car had an expensive service and maintenance history. I think replacing drivetrain and suspension is a smart upgrade, and it is not like those parts were thrown away, they were put on the maket for used spare parts, to enthusiasts wanting to keep their car with OEM parts.
I don't know that I'll ever be in a position to have my Ferrari electrified, especially as I probably won't be in a position to buy a Ferrari but I can see a huge market over the next 10-50 years for classic cars being electrified. The worst thing about them is the mechanicals regardless of whether you like ICE or not that's simply a fact.
Sense of occasion and involvement of original spec totally lost with an EV conversion. Even a 200bhp Ferrari V8 is more exciting to me than a 500bhp electric motor. At least you get the noise, and the engagement. Faster does not equal better. Plus, it’s £60k! That’s probably a few lifetimes of maintenance and fuel costs on a 308. Most classic car owners will be maintaining their cars themselves for £100’s a year.
@@adogmcdizzle My point is not specific to the 308. I mentioned classic cars (meaning all of them). In the coming decades you won't be able to buy an ICE car new and people will want a mini cooper or an Alfa spider or maybe even a Ford Granada with an EV drivetrain. There will be exceptions, I'm not suggesting every classic car will be converted to EV.
@Mr Brightside With respect, your analogy about a Casio watch and a Rolex is not a good one. Doing that would make a crap watch. Converting a classic car with a crap engine to an EV would make a good classic car.
@@dizzy2020 A lot of these conversions will be because of regulations on ICE that is upcoming, not because of the love of EV. I'm thinking about the bigger picture, not the niches.
One of the best video's you've done this year! Now can we get some more affordable vehicle conversion solutions rather than these mass produced boxes on wheels.
As an italian, i KNOW this is the way to go with classic cars...still...for national reasons an electric Ferrari is something i need to process for a long time before I fully agree :)
I can sure understand the love for old classics ..but I sure CAN'T understand why you would ever want to keep the old technology engine and not want to upgrade to electric ...absolutely love seeing these conversions.
Oh man, I love this whole idea, I'd seen the VW conversions but I'd LOOOOOOOVE to own this electric Ferrari ❤️❤️❤️ it's retro cool, and I think it's going to be a trend like the way vinyl came back
Please Robert dial down the "sound effects" we share your passion and love your work but my daughter is taking a nap in the couch and i am forced to watch this on mute, other than that top notch production! carry on and thank you!!
Robert is a good guy and I enjoy this channel, but 10:40 is all the proof you'll ever need that he just doesn't "get" cars like this on an emotional level.
Most of this comments section don't get cars at that level. They value wirelessly charging their phone and bluetooth audio over having a mechanical connection with their car. I get that automotive needs to electrify, but destroying heritage because you were "bored" with it isn't the answer. If the owner of this Ferrari was so bored with it he should've sold it to someone who would actually use it and enjoy it.
Someone has to invent a muffler with a speaker built in it that makes the loud vrroom! sound that would match the rpm of the motor and the change of gears simulating the gear shifts. And the speaker should run on a hydrogen fuel cell so it can blow steam out the tailpipe.
I don't know if they are still available, but I saw years ago a system that allowed you to play different engine sounds over externally mounted speakers, and it was controlled by the rpm of the vehicle. You could make your Ford Escort sound like a Lamborghini, or a Ferrari, or whatever.
The stats for the car were very impressive. Also noticed the lack of high pitched whine which has been apparent in some of the other featured conversions. It's an absolute masterpiece.
I’m sceptical of the vehicle weight. Even with a full tank of fuel, it could never be 1500kg?! Internet reckons 1265kg kerb weight, even if that’s dry, then 100kg extra for fluids would seems realistic and that some way short of 1500kg...
Make sure you're searching the right model. It's a 308GTSi, not GTB, GTS etc. Weight also varies depending on options e.g. A/C, but 1500kg is about right. 👍
@@ElectricClassicCars yeah, just having a look at the moment, Ferrari are often spoken about as being a little misleading with weight and power figures, if 1500kg wet is right that’s a right porker. Bit I know some of the US cars in particular were very heavy. @Ratarossa certainly stripped a lot of weight out of his!
@@ZJC743 did he say 150miles to a charge? If you did 150 miles to a tankful the V8 would be consuming fuel at 8.5mpg. I’m sure the Ferrari is thirsty, but not that thirsty at a gentle cruise (which is the comparison made).
Love your channel and I’m a big fan of electric cars but taking a classic 308 Ferrari and converting it to electric is just plain WRONG! It’s a bit like taking a Rolex and replacing the movement with a battery powered digital unit from Casio. It will improve the accuracy but removing its beating mechanical heart is like removing its soul and its the same taking the petrol engine out of this Boxer.
I am 100% behind this kind of conversion! The new guys on the block, Lunaz, are also doing incredible work! I'd have one of their electric Rolls Royces over a brand new one in a heart beat... if I could afford it 😅
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This might look like a classic red Ferrari 308 GTS but it has one little secret - its 100% electric.
While some will see this conversion of such a classic car as controversial, it's now a faster, lighter and more practical car which gets far more usage than its combustion engine predecessor. This classic Ferrari was lovingly converted by Richard Morgan and the team at Electric Classic Cars and Robert was warned to be careful when he took it for a drive as its a 'bit lively!'. This high performance car now has an impressive 500 horsepower and is both exhilarating and terrifying to drive (see Robert's face for proof). So looking to the future, could converting to electric be the solution to preserving these incredible classic cars?
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1:15 Out for a drive
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2:27 Speed? what speed?
3:14 Bonkers stats
3:52 Stepped acceleration
5:10 Easy village driving
6:22 History of the conversion
7:25 A new lease of life
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11:31 Before and after stats
13:05 Bonus car noises
14:48 Ferrari powered house?
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I wouldn't have sold off the old bits tho.
I think its more respectful to the car, to give it a new life, rather then letting it rot in a garage. If you can't use it then its not a car, it loses it's soul.
You lose the excellent Ferrari engine sound, plus the driving experience of shifting gears. If you want to modernize a classic Ferrari, build in a modern Ferrari V8 engine. Still not the same, but a lot better than turning it into a vacuum cleaner.
I understand wanting some money back from selling the parts and helping maintaining other cars but I would have preferred to make a glass coffee table with the engine block underneath. A bit of industrial design as art to remember our past :-)
Currently working on an old midas mk2 (1981 vintage), it uses a mini front subframe and has a GRP monocoque... Looking at the swind hdpe a little more seriously as each day passes. Always going electric.
One of the best episodes this year. Would hope for a whole series on these converted classics. Also on practical level like Volvo v70 family car into electric version
this episode flew by , sometimes they drag a bit
Check out the show Electric Classic Cars made called Vintage Voltage, it's just that. Moggy is a great presenter, credit to @fullychargedshow for giving him a platform.
Yes I'm pretty dismayed by the lack of electric estates on the market, perfect suburban car in my opinion, there's no need for crossovers (although they are getting shorter and more estate like), and definitely no need for an suv unless I'm overlanding.
If i was in this gentlemens position I would do the same in a heartbeat, it's an excellent way to keep these classic cars on the road and exciting.
Robert reading out the stats, accompanied by his own sound effects are why i love fully charged.
Those noises are precisely why I'm like "oh yes an interesting video again... oh no it's Robert presenting."
Everyone's different :)
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Such a nice cinematography in this video. Great work!
I think with all things considered... the owner is completely right! This is a beautiful car but not an ultra-rare collectible. When I heard he had done 8 miles in a year, it made me so sad... I understand why but I just think, seeing cars like this on the road makes me so so excited. It's tiring seeing Astra, c class, 3 series, Corsa, Yaris... but imagine seeing more Ferraris, old rally cars, Masseratis... OH IT'S EXCITING!
Thank you fully charged for keeping up the good word of our Lord and saviour EV :D
I could not agree with you more. Absolutely, imagine seeing all those classics coming back onto the street.... and kicking your butt at the traffic lights.
Commuter Ferraris and Lancias... The drivetrain is one thing, the suspension and interior parts might not be happy with heavy use.
Yes absolutely i love the look of old Apha Romeos my sister had a lovely one but even though she was married to a very good mechanic it was too unreliable. Be great to see these become better cars.
"This is the Ferarri 308 and this is Fully Charged.... OAhahHAoHAHgGHOHGAAHHaH"
@The Catmother live by the sword...
Possibly the most exciting video I've watched this year
"I'm between 20 and 90 at the moment." Well thats close enough, lol
He’s a bit of a knob
Bearing in mind the speedo needle starts at 10! I've had one, and the speedo electrics are a weak point, but you can tell the speed from the tone of the (combustion) engine.
All I can say is, if Enzo had this kind of power and performance available when he was alive, do you think he would ignore it? He would be right there trying to make it even FASTER!
Enzo loved ICE engines...
Bobby? In a Fezza? I'm sure his vocal range could make up for the lack of engine noise.
That's a good point, with his acting ability he should be able to make up the only shortfall of a project like this by driving around shouting Brrrrrmmmmmmm!
jonny would of done a better video
@@thinfourth
Let's just say it would have been different.
But why go there ?
@@thinfourth Check out Johnny Smith's channel, The Late Brake Show. Not just EVs but also more historical vehicles and various others.
@@thinfourth well he’s done the one on the MGB new build EVs. We find out it’s raining half a dozen times and how much he dislikes petrol MG just about as many times. Not why , just that he does repeatedly. For that matter why he chose a rainy day to fill a convertible isn’t mentioned either. Jonny gets tedious quickly.
A great video - loved the end of the intro as you unleashed the beast and provided the soundtrack by howling!! 😂😂😂
Stunning conversion of an iconic car 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
This is a really good episode, one's preconceptions change when you hear the owner out. The owner also seems to have been influenced by Fully Charged so without this show it is not easy to say if this project would have come about. I could have done with a double length show with the owner telling us a bit more about himself.
What will be interesting is if this particular car with its on screen presence in this episode and having been converted by one of the pioneers has more value in a decade to come than the petrol burning variants.
What a beautiful car, looks like a really professional conversion.
Available in any colour as long as it's Red.
One of these cars that always puts a smile on your face, either just looking at it and even more when driving it.
A friend of mine had a gold one, it was less conspicuous when doing the ride of shame on the back of a flatbed breakdown truck.
When engines die and the car is still otherwise serviceable, this is a potentially great option! As stated here, there will be people after engines, so extracting those parts to be a doner for another car isn't a bad thing. You actually end up with MORE of these classics still working and on the road rather than rotting in a barn.
People should realize more that older cars aren't that comfy to drive, so replacing things like suspension or engine isn't "killing" those cars.
Every time i look at someone restoring old car and they do some modifications, everybody in comments says they destroyed that car and it should have original parts.
There are people that prefer having actually usable car, not showpiece, after all, they bought it and they can do what they want with it.
Conversion like this are great for people that still want to use original parts since they will have a lot more options now.
I totally agree! Some times using original fit parts is potentially dangerous. You wouldn't use asbestos brake pads now and you wouldn't say it was sacrilege to use a modern alternative instead. Also things like The oil used. Tech has gotten better and while I appreciate the importance of maintaining at least one example of pivotal or iconic technology for posterity, keeping them all stock is unnecessary. It's analogous to where tradition may hold back progress in other situations. We shouldn't do things how they've been done before, purely for that reason.
That's an excellent point.
This would be a great way to boost the kit car scene. Instead of trying to wang an old Ford 4-pot into a fibreglass lancia delta knockoff, make it electric and get it driving just right.
Driving better than it ever drove before 😁
Only problem is kit cars are cheap and even an electric kit to convert a classic mini from Swindon is £32k, if i had 32k id prob just buy a Tesla
@@scarlettsgarage1 Looking to do exactly that. Bought a 1981 Midas with exactly that intention. As soon as you are paying to convert a car, whatever idea you had about value go out the window, just pick a car you love and go for it. Its going to be closer to 40k for me, for a car that isn't worth 5... @MidasTwo.
@@scarlettsgarage1 People will spend £60K just doing up a VW Bus, so it’s not going to be an issue for everyone. And as other posters have said, it’ll get cheaper as the batteries survive more and more successive write offs by enthusiasts with heavy right foots/feet(???).
@@MidasTwo I've got an old series III Land Rover and I'd love to convert it but at the moment it's just too expensive.
The thing with this build too is that when battery tech advances, he could upgrade again and get an even lighter car with a greater range.
Yes, in 10 years he takes it in and has a solid state battery put in with 200 kw and loses some more weight and it accelerates even faster for another 20 years.
@@briananthony4044 vertically-aligned carbon nanotube is the way to go in few years
Maybe by then, open the back hood and drop in a few banana skins.
The execution of this project looks amazing! From the outside you can’t even tell it’s been converted to electric, it just looks like a Ferrari.
Beautiful shots in this video, I’ve never appreciated just how pretty the 308 is before.
Also fascinating stuff as always...keep up the good work
One of the best looking cars.....with an anemic v8......this is awesome conversion❤️
Although a big part of me says it's sacrelig! But this is the future and when you take an 80s ferrari that isn't strictly a popular classic and do this to it its fantastic I love this idea!
If it means it's driven vs staying in the garage it's well worth it, especially if the performance is improved.
Well Done on the Conversion... Many more to come... Pistons are gone... but the cars live on...
Love that fact that he plans to use the car as a battery power for his house!
You got a Tesla Wall Battery mate?
No.
I've got a Ferrari.
Why can't all electric cars do that out of the box? Most of them have batteries that make a Tesla Power Wall look like a toy. I never understood why that would be, after all I can add panels and a micro-inverter without drama.
It is a joy to watch your videos and your spontaneous reactions and vocal sound effects.
Dear electric car manufacturers, make them look as beautiful as this rather than suspiciously like a butt plug and you will be drowning in orders.
It isn't feasible to build mass market EVs (or gas) that look as cool as an old ferrari... Crash safety standards mean that high performance very expensive materials are required.
old shape car with good safety + lots of airbags and i'd buy one.
There's a reason exotic cars aren't cheap. New Tesla Roadster is being built as an EV from ground up and is expected to be >$200k. Your best hope for a svelte affordable sports EV may be if Mazda makes an electric successor to the Miata, which would still be at least >$50k.
bla bla bla aerodynamics bla bla bla efficiency bla bla bla safety regulations bla bla bla...
New nickname for my Leaf 🤣
This is an awesome conversion. It improved this model exponentially. It was a troubled platform from the start. You now remove all the unreliability and you’re able to enjoy it for what it is. Kudos to the owner! 👏🏻👍🏻
Wow! What an era to be alive in! ✨
Getting all the internal combustion and fuel parts into the 2nd hands market and essentially contributing to keeping other original ferraris alive is brilliant. Its a win-win scenario here. What an amazing episode.
This was the car i wanted as a kid. After seeing this I want this version ! If I miss the sound of the V8 I’ll play a recording on the radio. Can we do a Renault Traffic with this performance? Much more useful 😂
Because Magnum P.I ?
@@MarkChance lol no but watch Magnum PI because of the car 👍
Can you remember the Espace Renault built on their F1 car chassis? I guess it'd be something like that! :-D
Stunning. The 308 was always my dream car as a kid. All it's missing is some speakers fitted in the back to simulate the engine noise, and you've lost nothing.
Finally a Ferrari that won't break down all the time! Huzzah!
Its no longer a ferrari though
@@MartiniPinball That's right... it's better than a Ferrari! It's a super Ferrari! The first actual supercar of Ferrari. Maybe the company will take notice and start making electric cars in their factory? Probably not
And then they put a milkfloat engine in it! I used a carburettor version of this as a daily driver. Driven frequently, they don't break down! Unfortunately most Ferraris, especially the older ones see the road about 2 months a year if they're lucky as they're part of a bigger collection.
@@dcarbs2979 There's always more to the story - interesting! So if I ever own an antique Ferrari I must drive it every day to keep it running well. Sounds alright to me!
@@justin_time Same with any old car. They were built to be *driven*! The owner said himself one year he only did the return trip to the MOT station (8 miles). Reliability problems are inevitable with such little use.
When I buy my cars over 20 years old, I get concerned when they've done LESS than 100k. Rather have a stellar mileage well-maintained car than low mileage one that's been sat seizing up for decades.
Very professionally produced high-quality video. Very nice, loved it. Thank you!
seen this car a few times now , great to hear from the owner and his thoughts and reasoning for the build .
Loved every bit of this video.
From the inspector Morse style opening, until the grand designs style ending.
This is how we save classic cars for future generations to see driving on our roads imho.
Biofuels: Are we a joke to you?
Environmentally, best solution is to leave them as they are.
no
@@mattevans4377 yea
@@adogmcdizzle no
Brilliant! Perfect use-case of current technology to give new life to my favourite Ferrari model, which is the successor to the ultimate tribute car: the Dino 246 from Enzo for his son. You've brought years to my eyes, of joy and nostalgia - 4 does down from my childhood home, a guy i knew in my trends had a white 308 GTS. I used to get paid to clean it when he was attending a Concourse d'Elegance with me in the passenger seat (yes he was an older man with a young man for a partner) and i never felt as happy through that part of my life than when I was in that seat. Thankyou so much guys, this is what needs to happen to all of the classic cars and even the great antiques still being used regularly, of which there are many here in Melbourne.
Best conversion this year. he´s right. saves classics.
I wasn’t thinking that I would enjoy this video watching an old Ferrari converted into an EV but I was stunned by the beauty of it, authentic air of an old sport car with the modern electric heart in it. I wish to see more of such converted classic cars. Very impressive!
Recently had the privilege to drive this 308 as well. It's fantastic! Mighty fast, and certainly has gotten a new lease of life!
I remember when this Chanel whas having 70k subs, now on 750k, realy great job, i knew it from te start that will be beter and beter 👍
Thomas Llewellyn? or Robert Magnum? Ok Higgins!
Bobby Magnum, definitely! 😄
Love Magnum P. I. and this car.
Not the new series though that sucks.
@@robbiestevens6913 New series? I was not aware of that. Does it have Tom Selleck? Or have they done what they did with that Knight Rider 2000 nonsense?
I have no problem with swapping the engine to electric. Great way to proglong the life of classics and making them actually usable. Great stuff. All I need is a Citroen SM with a blown engine, and some spare dosh.
Citroën SM... Good taste 👌
@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος Thank you. Bit of a dream though.
Personally, I'm highly appreciate of having this option to keep these classics going an relevant, the fact that is better is a pleasant benefit,
I suspect there will be a very short list of cars that you just wouldn't do this too, a Veyron for instance.
I'd love to be there the moment he parks this in a charging bay at a supermarket and someone goes to have a go at him because they think they are being ICEd.
@@dizzy2020 Couldn’t agree more
@Vladimir Putin no, I just like classic cars; I don’t understand why they suddenly need to be electrified to ‘save them’.
@Vladimir Putin one reason to like classic cars is the extra layer of engagement they provide over even modern petrol cars. This is lost with an electric vehicle, even if it’s better in refinement and speed.
Another thing, The usage case for classics is often long drives to car shows. If you have to stop twice on the way to recharge, then that’s objectively worse in my view.
@@dizzy2020 you could program the engine controller to stall and fail if you don't apply the choke properly. I don't know if the austin 7 had a manual spark advance like the model T, but it probably would not be that much work to figure out how to completely emulate the pain of trying to run an old ICE.
@Vladimir Putin but it takes 5-mins to fill up, which is acceptable when you are convoying with a load of mates doing the same. If you are charging your car for an hour or more you can no longer travel with your friends, and that’s less time at the show. You can’t smell the exhaust from inside the car can you?
Brake and tyre particulates are produced by electric cars as well. Generally people like the noise, otherwise Ferrari wouldn’t angonise and spend millions developing their exhaust.
Wonderfully cinematic intro! You are a gentleman of means ;-)
I started off thinking this is just wrong, and I finished watching thinking it makes sense . I’d still miss the v8.
Beaty and the electrical beast! Fantastic! Wish I had a "time" to get something like that. The problem, here(Switzerland) is super complicated to do homologation for it. Kudos to Richard and his team.
*Italian guy sees 308 parked*
Mama mia it's Italian!
*Drives off without sound*
MAMA MIA IT'S IT-ALIEN!!
Great video love the idea. old classics are great to see on the road by other people but for those that own them it’s a constant tinkering and fettling to keep them running and then they can and often do break down. To me unless it’s a really valuable classic of which you wouldn’t drive it this the best thing you can do to something like this. Old cars when new were unreliable so this way you can have your beautiful looking classic and drive it knowing it won’t breakdown.
I would argue that without the Ferrari engine, it is now an electric Pininfarina, as they designed the body.
I'd rather have this than one with an unreliable old IC engine. :D
Although i fully agree with you, Enzo Ferrari might twist in his grave if would hear about this.. ;0)
@@poplaurentiu4148 I'm not sure. Enzo cared about winning. He sold sports cars to have money for racing, all that mattered for him was putting his name at the top in the next race.
Well done to the owner. A great choice, a pioneer. And the home storage in a 308 shaped box is a great idea.
Also the engine could have made a lovely ornament.
PLEASE Do a video on the new Alfa Romeo Gullia Gt electric, if you can.
Yes and the new etcr series which has a cupra hot hatch, the hyundai mid engine hatch, and a c.f. bodied Alfa Romeo guilia!
It's beautiful it's wonderful makes more sense seeing one of those on the road where it does not make noise as it goes past practical because you can use it a lot more and not worry about maintenance the biggest cost with one of those I love it
I seen a few of these conversions, amazing
Brilliant transformation. Really like the idea of using the cars batteries as part of Home use. More please.
This is the way. I have spoken.
This is the way.
This is the way
This is the way.
You need to put your helmet back on. It is not the way. You're not pure.
On an unrelated note, observe how natural it is to have two blokes separated by the topic of discussion. No masks required, they're more than two meters apart. Why so far? Because they're talking about a car. Where is the car? Right between them. And we have view perspectives face on to each with an expanse of Rosso Corsa to move the conversation along. This is motoring reporting in the Age of Covid, and it's quite elegantly well done.
To your videographers, Robert, I lift my glass.
Thank you Leif. Our Vogs on this occasion are George and Andy. We are lucky to have such talents in our midst. Ben (Director of Production)
* voice of Higgins *
"Apollo?!"
"Zeus?!"
Patrol. He might wonder though...RHD 😳
I find it a disgrace to remove the beating heart and frankly an engineering masterpiece like the Ferrari V8 engine from a classic car like this. If it’s not your daily driver, appreciate the engineering and keep it classic. Use electric on your daily commute, and keep your hands of classic cars like this. There is so much value in the sound and smell of an old car.
And there are those who don’t really know how to
Drive a proper sports car and do this kind of
Things!!! I don’t care about extra HP. You’ve taken all
The fun from really driving and feeling the work of art that is the gear lever on a Ferrari!! Humanity deserves what’s coming to
Them
After this kind
Of things happen!!
Absolutely RIDICULOUS !! 🤬
Always fancied a Delorean myself, just imagine an electric one, it would be sensational wouldn't it?
And you could charge the batteries up with 1885 technology!
The electric DeLorean was done quite some time ago. Just do a search on RUclips and you'll find it.
There was electric DeLorean at Fully Charged live 2019 :)
The Company in Texas that now has the original DeLorean parts inventory was offering an EV build version..dunno how many they'd have left..
A DeLorean is the perfect application for an EV conversion. Mainly because the original engine was quite bad.
Having recycled the engine etc for other cars this makes sense to me too, I had a motor bike that did very few miles and loved it but ended up.selling it because the cost of keeping it running wasn't worth it, if I had that now I would defo convert it and get more use out of it, might look round for a bike to convert, my ebike conversions are great fun.
Slightly random, but had the pleasure of talking to Robert at a trade show in the mid 2000s. My editor at a magazine spotted him and demanded I go and talk to him in case he had something interesting to say. Didn't have a clue what to ask him about, so started a conversation about cars instead! Even back then he seemed incredibly passionate about tech, cars and idea of electric vehicles - is fantastic to see that passion alive and well with the Fully Charged Show 15 years on.
I love the idea of converting classic cars, and I think that rather than scrap or sell the old engine, it should be cleaned up and put in a lovely cabinet to show off it's history. It is still a lovely example of the best of technology for its time. Well done for a great show. Love fully charged.
Brilliant way to recycle a classic with a blown motor and make it more usable and visible. Very impressed.
Good to see old cars improved and given a new identity with electric 👍
Love the PIninfarina design
Well done to Richard and Brian
I saw that conversion at Fully Charged live. What a car!
1982 Ferrari and no one is smoking, what a disgrace.
What
Well, neither is the car, so it fits.
They could hide some USB charge points behind the cover that hides the ashtray. Would be in the spirit of the conversion to electric.
They arent allowed to do that on camera anymore. I'd suspect there was someone just out of shot sparking up lol
That's like me saying "they did a video on a Subaru and not one person used a hypodermic needle for heroin, what a disgrace"
There never was anything graceful about self harm to begin with 🤔
500 horses🐎
No Power Steering
No traction control
No airbags
That's Mad Max stuff
Now if someone could make a production EV that looks like this...
Not a Ferrari 308 copy, but have you inspected the Tesla Roadsters of 2008-2011 and the upcoming new 2022 (?) Roadster?
Great piece Robbert, and well done you on the social distancing because most other YT shows are really bad it it.
Inspirational - to see how we can preserve the past in a sustainable future
When I saw the thumbnail I was in rage. But, after watching the video ... it makes sense.
I'm pleased to see another episode and that the buttons didn't pop off ;-)
I am in love with the music!!
Where can I find it?
I believe electric is a brilliant solution for travel however, as a true petrol head I will SERIOUSLY miss the visceral experience of a combustion engine yet, the advantages of electric and hydrogen as far as I have researched are undeniable!!
Great work Robert (and team) as always you are a hilariously, animated and a completely bonkers presenter but, boy do you make this channel alive. God bless and keep up the good work!!🙏🏿🙌🏿👍🏾😁
Much of the charm of a classic sports car is the engine- the sound, the rumbles, the kinks - but replacing it with an electric drive train suddenly makes it a practical driver.
There is nothing about the acceleration is practical.
@@gerardrbain1972 It's a sports car. The old acceleration is still fine these days. Now if you're talking about a classic VW beetle for instance, then the acceleration is a bit unpractical.
I guess the charm and practicallity depends on if you want the classic car experience/hobby or just an interesting car to drive. I suspect it will depend on the car and how good they were originally and what role you want it to play.
but, if its this or a second hand porche to drive to work or as a daily I know I'd pick this.
It’s good to know that cars can be retro fitted to be electric.
I love the smile on your face when you are driving it 😄 I have a 4 year old VW Golf GTE and that has 204bhp (so nowhere near 500+ of the Ferrari), but when I’m driving it, I too have a smile across on my face so I know a little bit of what you are experiencing 😃
I absolutely love my hybrid EV 💚
This is not just a EV conversation, it's an upgrade!
I have only considered about campervan EV to be home batteries, but it totally makes sense for sports cars as well.
Why not just create a replica shell then? The shell could be lighter if made with modern materials. You wouldn't go into a museum and hollow out marble statues and replace the insider with a lighter material to make it easier to move. These cars are historic pieces of art, they were never designed to be daily drivers.
@@Baseless_ I totally agree.
@@Baseless_ if it were a statue that was subject to be moved around very often, I don't see why would be bad to make it easier to move, as long as the visible shell is the same, and the material strength is still preserved. The new core could even improve the strength as reinforcement if using smart choices of composites.
I really don't understand the obsession of keeping old stuff as is, just because it is old. I understand that some things have sentimental value, but this car had an expensive service and maintenance history. I think replacing drivetrain and suspension is a smart upgrade, and it is not like those parts were thrown away, they were put on the maket for used spare parts, to enthusiasts wanting to keep their car with OEM parts.
The music...ahhh...and the car(s)...ahh...cannot get any better. Thanks for the video.
I don't know that I'll ever be in a position to have my Ferrari electrified, especially as I probably won't be in a position to buy a Ferrari but I can see a huge market over the next 10-50 years for classic cars being electrified. The worst thing about them is the mechanicals regardless of whether you like ICE or not that's simply a fact.
Sense of occasion and involvement of original spec totally lost with an EV conversion. Even a 200bhp Ferrari V8 is more exciting to me than a 500bhp electric motor.
At least you get the noise, and the engagement. Faster does not equal better. Plus, it’s £60k! That’s probably a few lifetimes of maintenance and fuel costs on a 308. Most classic car owners will be maintaining their cars themselves for £100’s a year.
@Mr Brightside It's a good question. I meant the engine and transmission.
@@adogmcdizzle My point is not specific to the 308. I mentioned classic cars (meaning all of them). In the coming decades you won't be able to buy an ICE car new and people will want a mini cooper or an Alfa spider or maybe even a Ford Granada with an EV drivetrain.
There will be exceptions, I'm not suggesting every classic car will be converted to EV.
@Mr Brightside With respect, your analogy about a Casio watch and a Rolex is not a good one. Doing that would make a crap watch. Converting a classic car with a crap engine to an EV would make a good classic car.
@@dizzy2020 A lot of these conversions will be because of regulations on ICE that is upcoming, not because of the love of EV. I'm thinking about the bigger picture, not the niches.
One of the best video's you've done this year! Now can we get some more affordable vehicle conversion solutions rather than these mass produced boxes on wheels.
The fact is that most old classic cars like this were never much good. They can only benefit from a smooth, modern drivetrain!
Then build in a modern Ferrari V8 engine. Then you have great performance and great sound.
Love the expression on your face when you are driving it Robert... Superb! :-)
As an italian, i KNOW this is the way to go with classic cars...still...for national reasons an electric Ferrari is something i need to process for a long time before I fully agree :)
Enzo would weep.
I can sure understand the love for old classics ..but I sure CAN'T understand why you would ever want to keep the old technology engine and not want to upgrade to electric ...absolutely love seeing these conversions.
I'd love an eDiablo.
Wonderful conversion, would love to have one. Only gripe would be the steering, fix a power steer with a lot of control ...
I'd love to have a classic Porsche 911 or 928 EV conversion one day
Dude, a 928 has an excellent sound from that V8.
@@janklaassen6404 True...when it's working, dude. lol
Oh man, I love this whole idea, I'd seen the VW conversions but I'd LOOOOOOOVE to own this electric Ferrari ❤️❤️❤️ it's retro cool, and I think it's going to be a trend like the way vinyl came back
Have you made a video showing the technical side of an EV conversion? If not I’d like to see it.
look for ev west YT channel
Please Robert dial down the "sound effects" we share your passion and love your work but my daughter is taking a nap in the couch and i am forced to watch this on mute, other than that top notch production! carry on and thank you!!
a reliable Ferrari..? hell yea..!!!
This is the best episode ever. I’m always coming back to watch this video with a little morning coffee
Robert is a good guy and I enjoy this channel, but 10:40 is all the proof you'll ever need that he just doesn't "get" cars like this on an emotional level.
never was, never is. dude is the perfect appliance, Prius owner.
Most of this comments section don't get cars at that level. They value wirelessly charging their phone and bluetooth audio over having a mechanical connection with their car. I get that automotive needs to electrify, but destroying heritage because you were "bored" with it isn't the answer. If the owner of this Ferrari was so bored with it he should've sold it to someone who would actually use it and enjoy it.
Beautiful looking film in this. Lovely work folks.
Someone has to invent a muffler with a speaker built in it that makes the loud vrroom! sound that would match the rpm of the motor and the change of gears simulating the gear shifts. And the speaker should run on a hydrogen fuel cell so it can blow steam out the tailpipe.
No need to simulate gears, this car has a manual gearbox
The first Fully charged :Live event had a prize giveaway of such a noisemaker kit..they're available...
@@thedigitalmelon7326 But you don't use the gears like an ICE.
@@dragonskunkstudio7582 but you can still use gears to multiply the torque at lower speeds while having higher top speeds.
I don't know if they are still available, but I saw years ago a system that allowed you to play different engine sounds over externally mounted speakers, and it was controlled by the rpm of the vehicle. You could make your Ford Escort sound like a Lamborghini, or a Ferrari, or whatever.
The stats for the car were very impressive. Also noticed the lack of high pitched whine which has been apparent in some of the other featured conversions. It's an absolute masterpiece.
It has a Tesla P85 drive unit (motor and transaxle) - the whine will be exactly the same as every other car using this drive unit.
I’m sceptical of the vehicle weight. Even with a full tank of fuel, it could never be 1500kg?! Internet reckons 1265kg kerb weight, even if that’s dry, then 100kg extra for fluids would seems realistic and that some way short of 1500kg...
Make sure you're searching the right model. It's a 308GTSi, not GTB, GTS etc. Weight also varies depending on options e.g. A/C, but 1500kg is about right. 👍
@@ElectricClassicCars yeah, just having a look at the moment, Ferrari are often spoken about as being a little misleading with weight and power figures, if 1500kg wet is right that’s a right porker. Bit I know some of the US cars in particular were very heavy. @Ratarossa certainly stripped a lot of weight out of his!
Also the range, the ferrari 308 has a 80 litre tank, there's no way if you drive it gentle it will get less than the EV doing the same driving.
@@ZJC743 yes, and even then it’s 5mins to refuel vs 45mins+ to recharge.
@@ZJC743 did he say 150miles to a charge? If you did 150 miles to a tankful the V8 would be consuming fuel at 8.5mpg. I’m sure the Ferrari is thirsty, but not that thirsty at a gentle cruise (which is the comparison made).
Looks like Robert had a bit of fun driving this car :)
Wonderful to see classic cars like this uplifted and kept on the road.
Love your channel and I’m a big fan of electric cars but taking a classic 308 Ferrari and converting it to electric is just plain WRONG! It’s a bit like taking a Rolex and replacing the movement with a battery powered digital unit from Casio. It will improve the accuracy but removing its beating mechanical heart is like removing its soul and its the same taking the petrol engine out of this Boxer.
I am 100% behind this kind of conversion! The new guys on the block, Lunaz, are also doing incredible work! I'd have one of their electric Rolls Royces over a brand new one in a heart beat... if I could afford it 😅
what can we say: " from the past sthraight to the future "