For those that might be wondering, this type of system would work well at a miter saw station also, I just don't have the right setup at my miter saw to show you.
It does for sure. We use this method at the miter saw station all the time to cut our face frames for cabinets. We set the saw once to overall width of frame and use actual drop pieces of the stiles and the rails to space in between. Works great. Thanks for sharing
Heh glad you said that because as you were setting up the table saw I was thinking how could I do this on my Kreg ACS and then it hit me... just do the same thing with a stop set to 6" and the two spacers at the miter saw! Good stuff.
I'm surprised how you make anything with that funny, wierd ant totaly not precise metric system! Three eights of inch!? I just imagining mesuring surfaces with big math calculation!
For those of us that do not have a perfectly zeroed table saw,: Get two blocks that are each a little smaller than the inner width of the box, hold them together so they span the inner distance, clamp them together, then use it as a spacer between the fence and the saw blade.
I was taught that over 50 years ago. Works every time. Wish RUclips was around then, watching videos like this brings back information that was forgotten. Not everyone knows all the tricks and people like you put that information out there.
Very nice, thanks for sharing. I think it was Norm Abram who said "theres a construction rule that says measure twice, cut once. The woodworking rule is dont measure unless you have to."
This is the way I do when building my stuff. I would add that you can use the box itself to set the fence from the blade. That way even if your fence scale is not calibrated precisely, it will still work. Thanks for your usual to-the-point video.
@@launchpadw9379 Put the box plus two scrap pieces against the fence. Push the whole lot up flush to the blade and lock the fence. Remove the box and clamp the two scrap pieces against the fence
Great video! To completely eliminate the need for a ruler, you can bring the box to the table saw and use it to set the fence location. Just place the box next to the blade and adjust the fence to be snug next to the box. Then, once the fence is set, clamp the two pieces of wood to the fence as this video showed.
This makes so much sense, so easily, that I feel a bit stupid for not thinking of it myself. Thank you for posting! I learned something very useful right here.
I would like you to demonstrate the correct setup for doing this at your miter station. I don’t want to give you the "big head" or anything but this suggestion as well as several other recent videos are pure genius. You are an amazing asset to our community. Thanks and I look forward to more.
I gotta say this, Jody, you are a maestro at showing ways to... "Think Outside The Box!" I've been butchering wood for damn near seventy years now, and I've learned more from you in the short time I've subscribed to your channel.... Thank you, my friend..........
Thank you sir, I worked in commercial construction for 40+ years and struggled with this issue many times.. Would have been nice to learn this way back then..
If the most accurate scale to measure is tipped, even a little, the angle of that ruler must be included in calculations. Measuring using your method is an easier way, that seems to be most accurate. Thanks for your video.
Thanks for the tip. Dimensional lumber is usually cut pretty close to the size labeled, plywood, not so much, so it’s best to use this method to measure when using certain materials.
I don't understand where this dumb myth originated in USA. For a country which invented the internet and all kinds of technologies the people there are unable to look beyond their nose. Most industrial manufacturing happens with the metric system. As does plywood. Plywood comes in 18mm Or 19mm thickness. The 19mm plywood is more popular. For gods sake take out your calipers and check the thickness of your plywood before mouthing off lame myths.
Another way is to use a really sharp pencil, and trace the inside dimension onto the materiel you're cutting. Then you can dial that in for a perfect fit by making incremental cuts, closer and closer to the line. Takes a bit, but it works.
lol, pretty much every other channel keeps telling me to "like and subscribe" ... and your channel I subscribed to ... not because you told me, but because the content is so good. Also signed up to your patreon as a thanks for the content! Cheers
Great technique. I have found myself with a piece of wood that is just a bit short, even after spending more time than necessary with measurements. Me and math disagree often. Thanks for helping me remove the math.
Super. So, even if my saw was not as tuned as yours, I could set my distance by placing the width between the raised blade. Then add the two scrap side material like you did. That is so cool. Thanks. Be Well and Good Journey Richie
Ha! , , , ‘Typically, I found this too late, otherwise my averagely finished little box project would’ve been at another level! Strange how the tiniest errors magnify and leap out at you- my old carpentry teacher used to say “You may have the biggest nose in the world- but if you have a tiny pimple on it, that’s what people notice!” - I think I’m going to revisit my boxes! As ever, great vid, thanks Jody 👍
A even better way to ensure your inside piece fits its to use a making knife to mark it directly from your box onto the piece you are cutting. This eliminates ALL measurement errors. And the knife line is more accurate than a pencil line.
So clever! I have done it the wrong way for years and never understood why it would not fit. It's so simple and logical when you explained it and i will definitely use this method going forward. This was the first video I have seen and was so impressed I have now subscribed.
I have used what I call a dead block attached to my fence short of the saw blade so I could get the right size cut and to be able to use my miter square but never thought of what you just showed. Glad I watched.. !!!
Your solution is a very good one. Just a couple notes about measuring for your viewers. A tape measure should measure accurately both push and pull. That is why the end it loose - it compensates for the thickness of the hook. In order to make sure you get accurate measurements with a tape measure don't use the hook at all. Start your measure from one inch and use the tape lines. Don't forget to subtract one inch from your measurement.
Julie, I worked in a cabinet shop in the late 70's, and every Monday morning the foreman religiously had everyone check their tapes against the shop ruler and adjust them if needed. The hook tab at the end of the tape can be bent to adjust its overall length for accuracy. But most, if not all, tapes don’t provide a way to adjust for and changes due to wear or damage in the length of the slot that the hook tab slides in. This slot compensates for the thickness of the hook tab when changing between inside and outside measurements. Because of this, care should always be taken when closing a tape to insure it doesn’t slam against the hook tab which will eventually elongate the slot. You can adjust the hook tab to compensate for it on the inside or outside measurement, but not both. You probably know this, but some might not. 😉
For those that might be wondering, this type of system would work well at a miter saw station also, I just don't have the right setup at my miter saw to show you.
It does for sure. We use this method at the miter saw station all the time to cut our face frames for cabinets. We set the saw once to overall width of frame and
use actual drop pieces of the stiles and the rails to space in between. Works great. Thanks for sharing
Heh glad you said that because as you were setting up the table saw I was thinking how could I do this on my Kreg ACS and then it hit me... just do the same thing with a stop set to 6" and the two spacers at the miter saw! Good stuff.
I would love to see that
I'm surprised how you make anything with that funny, wierd ant totaly not precise metric system! Three eights of inch!? I just imagining mesuring surfaces with big math calculation!
This is the greatest, most helpful, no BS RUclips channel in the history of RUclips. So grateful!
For those of us that do not have a perfectly zeroed table saw,: Get two blocks that are each a little smaller than the inner width of the box, hold them together so they span the inner distance, clamp them together, then use it as a spacer between the fence and the saw blade.
I was taught that over 50 years ago. Works every time. Wish RUclips was around then, watching videos like this brings back information that was forgotten. Not everyone knows all the tricks and people like you put that information out there.
Very nice, thanks for sharing. I think it was Norm Abram who said "theres a construction rule that says measure twice, cut once. The woodworking rule is dont measure unless you have to."
This is the way I do when building my stuff. I would add that you can use the box itself to set the fence from the blade. That way even if your fence scale is not calibrated precisely, it will still work. Thanks for your usual to-the-point video.
An excellent idea!
@@launchpadw9379 Put the box plus two scrap pieces against the fence. Push the whole lot up flush to the blade and lock the fence. Remove the box and clamp the two scrap pieces against the fence
@@nshon7 I think you meant just the box between the fence and blade right?
Great video! To completely eliminate the need for a ruler, you can bring the box to the table saw and use it to set the fence location. Just place the box next to the blade and adjust the fence to be snug next to the box. Then, once the fence is set, clamp the two pieces of wood to the fence as this video showed.
Common sense, that’s why I never thought of it first. Cool video 🇬🇧
This makes so much sense, so easily, that I feel a bit stupid for not thinking of it myself. Thank you for posting! I learned something very useful right here.
Right? same here
I would like you to demonstrate the correct setup for doing this at your miter station. I don’t want to give you the "big head" or anything but this suggestion as well as several other recent videos are pure genius. You are an amazing asset to our community. Thanks and I look forward to more.
I gotta say this, Jody, you are a maestro at showing ways to... "Think Outside The Box!" I've been butchering wood for damn near seventy years now, and I've learned more from you in the short time I've subscribed to your channel.... Thank you, my friend..........
Thank you sir, I worked in commercial construction for 40+ years and struggled with this issue many times.. Would have been nice to learn this way back then..
Simple but highly effective. Wish I had thought of it, but at least I thought to watch the video. 😊
Your “no measure” philosophy has really caused me to rethink how I approach my work and has definitely improved it.
i have adopted several of your no measure cut techniques...thanks!
You're a star! Very clear and concise explanation. Much appreciated.
i like your instruction style. You make sense and your explanations are clear. keep it up.
Simply genius. Big things with little details. Good job and GOD bless you. From Puerto Rico.
Watching this actually made me smarter. Thank you.
Great idea, wish I would have seen this sooner, my boxes would look much better. Thanks
Your stuff is so good...I'm building a "library" of all the tips and tricks you have, so I can refer back to them. Just good stuff.
If the most accurate scale to measure is tipped, even a little, the angle of that ruler must be included in calculations. Measuring using your method is an easier way, that seems to be most accurate. Thanks for your video.
Any time I can not whip out a measuring device I will! I'll add this trick to my arsenal. I love your approach to wood working!
Great explanation. I'm a boat builder and we use a lot of templates and forms as opposed to measuring. Thx!
Thanks for the tip. Dimensional lumber is usually cut pretty close to the size labeled, plywood, not so much, so it’s best to use this method to measure when using certain materials.
I don't understand where this dumb myth originated in USA. For a country which invented the internet and all kinds of technologies the people there are unable to look beyond their nose.
Most industrial manufacturing happens with the metric system. As does plywood. Plywood comes in 18mm Or 19mm thickness. The 19mm plywood is more popular. For gods sake take out your calipers and check the thickness of your plywood before mouthing off lame myths.
Wow absolutely brilliant, thanks Jody!
Great vid. Love your relaxing gentle voice/commentary!!
This is one of the most helpful tips I’ve seen. SO SIMPLE. Thank you!
Never thought of that--what a great idea!! That's why I love woodworking because one can always learn techniques from other woodworkers.
Very nice Video , my NEW way of Cutting inner materials
Love you teaching method. We’ll done and appreciated
Great idea… you managed to really capture the problem
Brilliant in its simplicity
Another way is to use a really sharp pencil, and trace the inside dimension onto the materiel you're cutting. Then you can dial that in for a perfect fit by making incremental cuts, closer and closer to the line. Takes a bit, but it works.
Catching up on a few older vids here.. this is a great tip !! Simple and accurate. ..and thank you !
It’s the simple solutions that often work the best.
lol, pretty much every other channel keeps telling me to "like and subscribe" ... and your channel I subscribed to ... not because you told me, but because the content is so good. Also signed up to your patreon as a thanks for the content! Cheers
I'm a little bit on the fence about this one...
I'll show myself out, thank you.
I'll get your coat😂
@@howardosborne8647 "fast show" by any chance?
Oh, yeah I get it, ur good! Fence, hahahaha, oh that was a good one! Yes, show thyself the door. Hehe.
This video is why I watch so many. Picked up a brilliant, easy to use tip. Thanks so much.
Great technique. I have found myself with a piece of wood that is just a bit short, even after spending more time than necessary with measurements. Me and math disagree often. Thanks for helping me remove the math.
I have never seen this before. I wonder why, because it really makes sense. Great insight !
That’s actually a really useful tip! Didn’t ever think about using the saw with a stop block like that to get the measurements! Good video!
Very Cool Jody, Your always thinking, thanks.
Where do you come up with all these great tips? They are pretty unique compared to the other channels and they are usually the best way of doing it.
That was a really great video and tip.
Thank you.
Great tip! I guess, now and then, it does pay to think inside the box.
Brilliant!
Thanks Jodie.
Super. So, even if my saw was not as tuned as yours, I could set my distance by placing the width between the raised blade. Then add the two scrap side material like you did. That is so cool. Thanks. Be Well and Good Journey Richie
Most excellent Tip, Thank you
That was one of the slickest tricks I’ve seen. Thanks
🤯 Dang that is a really cool tip! And it makes total sense. Thanks so much for sharing!
Sweet trick! Thank you for sharing that. I had seen that before, but since forgotten. I wish I would have remembered that this morning.
Another great tip! Thank you for your time nd sharing.
Ha! , , , ‘Typically, I found this too late, otherwise my averagely finished little box project would’ve been at another level!
Strange how the tiniest errors magnify and leap out at you- my old carpentry teacher used to say “You may have the biggest nose in the world- but if you have a tiny pimple on it, that’s what people notice!” - I think I’m going to revisit my boxes!
As ever, great vid, thanks Jody 👍
A even better way to ensure your inside piece fits its to use a making knife to mark it directly from your box onto the piece you are cutting. This eliminates ALL measurement errors. And the knife line is more accurate than a pencil line.
Solid, practical trick - very helpful, thank you!
Great instruction. Thank you.
I arrived at this same conclusion! Been doing this for years with excellent results.
Nice man..
An old man taught me that a long time ago....always works...first vid I've seen...I just subscribed...very well done.
Yup. Great job. This is a really handy tip for people who didn't know it.
Brilliant! Sometimes (most times) the easiest answer is the best answer.....thanks.
Brilliant tip, why have i never thought of this? Thanks for sharing
Will definitely be using this method from now, great points made, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Outstanding, a big thank you from this old Sailor.
Brilliant! Thank you.
I love your videos. You have made a huge difference in my work. Thank you !
Old school.... take the math out of it. Great info as always Jodee. Keep doing what you do.
Excellent. Thank you.
Fantastic Advice
and clearly explained
Glad I found you. Subscribed.
So clever! I have done it the wrong way for years and never understood why it would not fit. It's so simple and logical when you explained it and i will definitely use this method going forward. This was the first video I have seen and was so impressed I have now subscribed.
Great advice. Thanks.
Good tip. Thanks for sharing
Nice trick. Can’t believe I haven’t even zero’d my table saw scale yet. It’s only been about 15 years.
Excellent. Always appreciate your solutions.
Ok this is perhaps the best tip I have seen in a long time. Bravo man for thinking of this!
Best tip I've seen in ages. Thanks.
Very well explained and it made measuring the box simple to have true cuts. Thank you for sharing ( Stay Safe ) .
Thank you for the useful information
Cool vid. That method is kinda like using a Kerfmaker. Using the wood itself to do the measuring. I love these brilliant tips from you.
Great technique thanks
I’m enlightened!!! Awesome tips! Thank you!!! 👍🏻
i use my bosch laser meter for inside measurement, it also shows the min/ max, hence a bowing/cupping may exist. neat trick if you don’t have one.
I have used what I call a dead block attached to my fence short of the saw blade so I could get the right size cut and to be able to use my miter square but never thought of what you just showed. Glad I watched.. !!!
Fantastic tips, dude! Thanks a lot! 😃
I'm definitely going to use them!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Great idea!
Excellent tip, I'll definitely be using this method in future. Thanks.
Nicely done sir
You got my sub, like, comment, share..for NOT saying "sub, like, comment,share"
Very clever thank you
really good tip! thanks!!
DAMMIT THAT IS GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Simple always is. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I always like to "index" or "register" measure as well. It beats the fool out of even the best tape measure.
Your solution is a very good one. Just a couple notes about measuring for your viewers. A tape measure should measure accurately both push and pull. That is why the end it loose - it compensates for the thickness of the hook. In order to make sure you get accurate measurements with a tape measure don't use the hook at all. Start your measure from one inch and use the tape lines. Don't forget to subtract one inch from your measurement.
Yeah and what's crummy is that most tapes are not even accurate as far as how far the hook moves in comparison to the thickness of the hook.
Julie, I worked in a cabinet shop in the late 70's, and every Monday morning the foreman religiously had everyone check their tapes against the shop ruler and adjust them if needed. The hook tab at the end of the tape can be bent to adjust its overall length for accuracy. But most, if not all, tapes don’t provide a way to adjust for and changes due to wear or damage in the length of the slot that the hook tab slides in. This slot compensates for the thickness of the hook tab when changing between inside and outside measurements. Because of this, care should always be taken when closing a tape to insure it doesn’t slam against the hook tab which will eventually elongate the slot. You can adjust the hook tab to compensate for it on the inside or outside measurement, but not both. You probably know this, but some might not. 😉
Great tip!
Another great video, thank's again, Jim
Great Tips Thanks 👍
Thanks for sharing this top tip. Will be trying soon.
Great idea
Very good advice cheers for that the simple ways are the best