The New 2022 Toyota Tundra Still Has a Feature That Is Now Disappearing From All of Truckdom! Ep.3
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- ( tfl-studios.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! What's going on with the 2022 Toyota Tundra under the skin? In this video, Andre takes a deeper dive into the new truck with executive program manager Jay Sackett.
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Andre you do a great job of letting the engineer explain things in his own words and pace. Well done.
if it was Roman he'd be interrrupting and actually trying to correct the engineer...
Condensing ass Roman am I right?
Doubt this guy is an engineer - the engineers are in Japan and don't speak English...
@@RycastFitness these trucks are designed and made in America. It’s not a 4Runner.
@@RycastFitness dumbest thing I read today.
We've heard from our customers that they wanted under seat storage, so we completely removed that from our hybrids. LOL
I'll take that removed under seat storage if the fuel economy is away close to those shared on the straight pipes.
There is behind the seat storage that is not reported on
@@lukestoyz the battery takes up the entire normal under back seat storage that the Toyota rep referenced in the video. That was the joke.
Dont get the hybrid then
@@TheLastlatvian thing is, Toyota could have put the batteries under the cab, like the F150.
Andre, Thanks for the tour. The stripped down truck looks like it was left in my neighborhood overnight.
Cleveland???
In our area the cats and wheels would be gone. Especially the cats though.
Do you live in Laredo?
You have to be in Mexico
Funny...
It’s amusing that Andrew already knows all the info and has to lead the corporate guy to talk about it
😂😂😂
Great communication!
cuz that guy's an engineer, not a sales person.
@@gwot
Really? You think he sounds like an engineer?
Cause he sounded like a sales that didn’t pay much attention when the real engineer explained stuff in pre press.
@@HumperMKB not everyone is a good talker, and or can remember every single detail of a product, live and probably nervous in front of a camera, most engineers are both of those things. Hindsight is 20/20, I often think of a better answer after answering someone and regret it, doesn't mean I don't know my stuff, I just suck at forming a good answer on the fly.
Love seeing the inner parts of a vehicle to understand the workings of the vehicle. Looks like good looking truck.
I just wish it had seats 😜
Buy a Revell model
They did all this to the frame but did they ever get around to powder coating or galvanizing them?
To work on this engine or get to the turbos is going to be a nightmare for even a Toyota technician 🤢🤯
Remove the cab basically. Then still be a bitch haha
A Toyota tech confirmed that this engine, when working on the Lexus LS which has the same engine, is the most complicated, advanced engine Toyota has ever built, by a long stretch.
Just means if u have a problem that the tech has difficulty accessing, it’s gonna cost YOU more money b/c it’ll take the tech more time to repair. (Cue Pink Floyd’s MONEY).
@@realBkay It also means a lot more training for the tech.
I love all the new stuff. But the more you add means more points of failure you have.
I really hope it stays reliable
@@byronlemay2166 exactly my thoughts. It’s why I waited until 2021 to buy the new ranger. Give them a few years to work out any issues
Exactly. Manufactures promote high quality but they keep reducing the warranties. They know what they're doing! And that elaborate rear suspension is screaming out high replacement cost and poor reliability.
The pickup's overall design looks pretty light weight. It might be designed more for grocery getting.
Roman's camera work leaves a lot to be desired, but at least he kept quiet for a change.
Not having 4Auto in northern climates where snow is a major issue, sucks.
Hey Toyota, here’s some market research. Many 1/2 ton truck owners and most business owners who are loyal to Tundra would prefer the tried and true 5.7 with the new 10 speed transmission and somewhat smaller rear axle ratio. Why not keep as a option? Best of both worlds, better mpg, and simple, long term reliable and easy to maintain…
Really great video guys, absolutely love these informative and detailed engineering walkthroughs.
Very interesting! Love hearing and seeing the new features exposed (didn’t know about the hydro mounts). Seemed like the Toyota rep tried to avoid answering the question of “why no 4wd auto” though; didn’t give a reason why they don’t offer that.
That he did. Started to and then moved on
4wd auto is a must have, especially when leaving in area that gets snow. I don't know why they wouldn't add that feature. Also noticed there is no ice/snow drive mode in the new tundra.
Very cool to see, thanks Andre 👍 it looks like it might be a pain in the butt to change the belt!
I'm soo glad to see Toyota going back to a fully boxed frame . I've a had a few Toyotas from a 1989 to a 93 pickup, then a 2000 and 2006 Taco. The 2006 was totaled cause of a minor rear end collision, cause of the lack of a good frame . The same goes for my 2018 Tundra with that hip shake, The older trucks held up to all kinds of abuse ... just saying
Yup the frame flex in the 2nd gen tundras was so bad… and all because they didn’t want to spend more money on rust prevention
Looks like this truck may have a high insurance rate because if you hit anything across the front bumper your taking out an intercooler.
Thats why you have a brake pedal
You’re right I need a big tough chrome bumper like on my 2012 I’ve hit many things with only a few scratches I don’t wanna have to replace a fiberglass bumper
My wife just quoted a 22 and it's actually less than my Tacoma by a few dollars.
Holy shit. You’ll have to remove the body to work on that motor.
wow that engine is a mess, going from the simplistic 5.7 to this is crazy
@Jack K E/v typically is far more reliable than ICE based on how few moving parts it has. Im just confused at how crappy the mpg is.
Love the new tundra, but what's up with them contradicting themselves? They said their customers wanted more storage so they added more storage under the rear seats but then take it away by having the hybrid battery use up all the storage space. Then on the topic of auto 4wd, they say that their customers mostly use 4-hi and 4-lo...well that's because the tundra only offers 4-hi and 4-lo, if given the choice I am sure they would use 4 auto 🤦. Those are just my gripes but other than that, this truck looks like to be a home run for many truck drivers.
Agreed. No under-seat storage in the hybrid and no 4A is a no-go. Both are available in the new F-150. Tundra looks silly too. F-150 looks classy still.
The customer they refer to is their make believe escape goat for not doing something we all wanted…. Pretty lame as excuse that they continue to use. Same as ditching the reclining rear seats . It’s all about cutting costs and their excuse is that we asked for it lol
You guys always knock it out of the park asking the questions consumers are looking for 👍
So many cameras, air bag, turbos... Those are just more future repair costs.
Cameras have no mechanical parts... don't know how those would break besides software and you driving bad smashing it off the car. If it's software it's a safety issue. Which should be a recall from the government costing nothing to you.
@@mouaxiong8618 Electronics break all the time.
Negative nancy alert ⚠️
@Jack K you must have experience with Ford
TFL, can you please please ask an engineer about installing a snow plow on these? Signed way more current and possible future owners than people realize.
Toyota didn't even put tow hooks on the front... I doubt they want a plow mounted to it.
“Still Has a Feature That is Disappearing” … What’s that feature?! (Is it the transmission cooler? You never showed it in the video.) Great video otherwise, you go into more detail on the cutaway than anyone else so far.
It has a trans cooler but i think they said it was hidden on the passneger side behind the grille
I'm guessing he was talking about the mechanical fan... but that had became extinct. They actually revived it
Its called "clickbait"...i fell for it too! lol
Txs guys..of course,Roman is behind the camera…😊😊
Camera person is putting in the work. Good job!!
Imagine a Tacoma with that 3.5.
I've heard the new gen Tacoma will have a detuned version of this, possibly single turbo according to my Toyota dealer.
The factory tour showed that Toyota was actually making the frames this time. Dana core is no longer making Toyota frames? I guess Toyota is pissed after having to replace frames.
If you want something done right, ...
Lol. When you want something done right you do it yourself. I don’t blame toyota because the frame issues were bad rep for Toyota even though people didn’t know that Toyota didn’t actually make those bad frames.
Yeah Toyota filed a lawsuit against them and won 25 million. I’d say Toyota doesn’t want to take any chances again.
I worked at a Toyota garage when the recalls were happening. It was a NIGHTMARE. Hundreds of new frames coming 10-15 in on trailers at a time
Any dis-similar material that is bonded (such as welding) is going to cause stress fractures in the lower flexibility material. So the high strength steel in this frame is going to see a massively reduced cycle life because they welded it to the more flexible low carbon steel. This frame is going to be a huge cost from recalls in the future.
After seeing this. Future owners will HAVE to have deep pockets for all those electrical computer automated phitzer valve sensor gadgets. SMH 🤦 ANY little tiny thing that triggers a CEL is going to be pricey for sure. Will be watching from the sidelines on this generation tundras longevity and reliability. Great video Andre-TFL👍
Luckily is a toyota.not domestic crap
@@mandytuning exactly, not like they didnt have shitloads of computers and sensors before. Toyota is good at this
@@BullittKid08 Wrong, even the new 2016 tundra(next gen) had a lot of electrical issues and still to this day isn't as reliable than the 2015 and below models.
It doesn't help that the V6TT engine will make owning this 2022 Tundra increasingly hard financially as the years pass by.
Maybe. Time will tell. Toyota hybrids are among the most reliable vehicles on the road though.
That’s crazy there is no 4 Auto function. Even my 2013 F150 had 4 auto. Used it all the time for when road conditions were going from snowy to dry. Can’t believe it’s not even an option on their higher end models!
I’m really curious if they added a transmission cooler back with the new tundra or if they’re sticking without one? Still don’t agree with them removing it.
Andre, as an engineer, I loved every second of this walk through! I can’t wait to get my Tundra Platinum next Summer.
Good video, and I was finally waiting to see how the intercooler was set up. And very interesting they went with air to water considering these newer engines in general run hotter for better fuel efficiency.
20mpg combined… why go through all this trouble to best the V8 by 3mpg? I’m sure the 5.7 could’ve been tuned to get 20. Vehicles just keep getting more expensive and less reliable. You’d figure if they really cared about the environment they’d want to keep vehicles on the road longer.
Your point is excellent. 3 mph after 22 years of the worst mileage in the business. The 4.7 and 5.7 were good engines but expensive to service. This junk is going to cost a lot of money to run and fix.
And losing at least 30K selling pre 22 Tundra and paying an additional 30K to acquire a 22
@@wileecoyote5749 I think you're wrong there. The pre22 tundras are going to bring a premium for a least a few years, because of the v8 going away.
I have a 2015 land cruiser and if you jump on the interstate and run 70 mph then reset the MPG reader mine will run around 18.5 to 21 mpg depending on hills and wind. I have done this over and over on runs of 15 to 60 miles and looks like it gets 19.4 most of the time if it's flat and I don't stop. From tank to tank it's normally around 14.2 - 15.5.
2021 5.7 380 hp/400 ft lb/ 17 mpg
2022 TTHybrid 430 hp / 580/ftlb / 19 mpg
So you got more than mpg there is a ton more power too
Boy, those charge air coolers going to make life even tougher for 3rd party front bumper/winch options…
That thing looks complicated as hell😩
Damn that bed flex when he put his hand down lmao 🤣
you need to give Andrey a new shirt - 1 full week of tundras and only 1 shirt! lol
😅 truck, eat, sleep, repeat.
That's BS. Which customers are using 4H and 4L? I bet 95%+ miles on these trucks are done 2WD.4H is for OFF ROAD.... who truly drives these off road? What we need it 4A, which is basically AWD, for inclement weather, like snow and rain on regular road. That's a cheap cheap choice Toyota!
@Water Jogger If you say so. Maybe Toyota drivers are different. All middle/upper range Ford , Chevy and Ram trucks have 4A (pseudo AWD). I've enjoyed 4A in my Tahoe for over 6 years. Not even a chirp from tires flooring it on wet pavement. Maybe Tundra owners like rear wheel spin and fishtailing. You cannot drive with 4H on the road, and I'm going to guess that 99.98% half ton truck owners have never even engaged 4L. Summary: I need 4WD every now and then ON the road, and it's best experienced through 4A selection
Great video. This looks to be a promising addition to the truck market. I mostly like the air suspension in my RAM Laramie. Mostly, because the system failed at about 36,000 miles and required a new ecu and compressor. Though, I expect the dealer had no idea and just threw parts at it. Anyway, I hope Toyota figured out how to keep it working in the cold.
If 18 wheeler can work in the cold with air ride it should be a problem
I have a 2008 Lexus GX with air on the rear and everything is still original 140,000 miles later. Durability will be fine
@@joeljenkins9424 not true, Air ride systems all tend to go and I know because I fixed them even on the Lexus vehicles. Tractor trailer's air ride system lasts because they size and weight of them are massive in portion to the vehicle. They have to last so they are forced to spend the money. I have no idea if Toyota made improvements for this system(I assume they did) so I hope it ends up being more durable long term.
Or a shady dealership replaces the failed parts and charges for the most profitable parts even though they didn't replace them. My wife was took her 1997 Subaru Outback into the dealership for a oil change one time and they told her she needed to replace her timing belt. Same dealership had replaced the timing belt within the past year or two.
The air suspension / load leveling on our 2000 LX470 is still going strong 382,000 miles later.
Great job, Andre! Seeing the chassis was really cool. 👍
Obviously, the market research affirms this. I assume this is what the market demands. But one has to ask, and I don't mean this rhetorically: is this what the market is driving toward? Is the target market or customer really interested in this? A $60k+ vehicle just waiting for potential issues so complex and expensive to repair?? Should there be an issue or part failure...wow.
Fully boxed frame for strength…wow, glad you finally figured that out.
😂🤣 you’re dumb aren’t you? You know the lead engineer wanted to keep the c channel but couldn’t because it’s the same chassis for the land cruiser.
to be fair a C-channel is stronger when it isn't rusting through which is why they switched back to C channels after having box fames before
Exactly! Fully boxed frames offer more strength. Kudos to Toyota for catching up and applying some great engineering practices to this box frame.......... specifically the use of non linear laser welded blanks into critical areas where more strength is required.
@working_country ___ ask the domestic as well
I wander why domestic trucks went to a fully boxed frame when Toyota touted their "triple tech frame" as some revolutionary concept. Not sure how since 10th gen F-150s had a fully boxed frame up front and C channel out back. They moved away from that in 04 like every single other truck on the market. "The frame flexes for off-road articulation". Bullshit, Toyota couldn't make a boxed frame that wouldn't rust so they used old tech rebranded as a new concept. Have your bed maxed out with payload and see how well that works out while going through a angled incline, sure. The frame twists unintentionally and buckles the tailgate on a C channel frame. I'm glad Toyota finally decided to take another shot at a boxed frame, I just wish they didn't try to save face with their older "Triple tech" frame that they caught endless flack for.
Did I miss the “feature?”
This is the only channel that mentioned the vortex generators on the upcoming Tundra.
Andrea is smart af, his questions and observations make these videos so much more interesting than most car review channels.
Good talk and review. Guy seems really nice. I just can’t get over that battery placement. Wtf? Also little odd the guy didn’t know a few things. Like the long bed vs short bed. Or the mounts.
Andre knows more about the new Tundra than the “lead engineer” 😂
Or, he’s more experienced talking in front of a camera.
@@shiftfocus1 maybe, but he hesitated a lot and didn’t know that only crew cabs are hybrid…
Doubt it.
@@joeblow701 - Looks like he can engineer a shitty diet pretty well tho…
The "engineer" is a paid off pawn for a japanese company. It's a disgrace.
I love how they color coordinated the components. Blue Cooling, etc.
all manufactures do this when showcasing the internal components for press events.
Looks like the body mount 6:52 behind the front wheel gives plenty of clearance for larger tires finally.
I thought the engineer was Julian from the Trailer Park Boys for a few moments lol! Also, why didn't Toyota develop a double folding tailgate like the other guys? Aside from that and the battery taking up the underseat storage for the hybrid I'm sold! I love the interior!
Hahahaha oh my God Julian from Trailer Park Boys was the perfect comparison!
Toyota is never afraid to show your every bit of their cars. They are very proud of their engineering.
Tundra week has been 🔥and no I don’t have a tundra lol
Thank you. We have one more - a 0-60 mph and road trip mpg tomorrow.
FULLY BOXED frame = thinner steel being used and RUSTING out for the inside. Toyota already had major issues with this in the early 2000's where they got sued and had to swap frames for customers.
The c frames rusted too. Toyota learned their lesson slowly but at least they stand by their customers and products.
Owning 2 generations of tacomas and my 2007 tundra, all had frame recalls and all rusted in both the boxed section up front and the open section at rear. They rust no matter what.
Well, now the frame is the same as an old GMT800 from 1999 and the ITBC and TSC have caught up to features introduced on GMT900s in 2009 and 2012 respectively.
And the rear suspension is the same as a 1960-1963 Chevrolet pick-up!
Translation,,,we are using thinner sheet metal on the frame in key areas (so it needed to be boxed). Eliminating weight (and material) by going to air suspension, no more coils or leaf springs in the back. Also the hybrid drive was designed by Ford/GM. The modern body mounts can be silicone gel fluid,(expensive) works well for isolation.
Toyota was the first company to make a modern hybrid power-train I don't think they need help from GM who would be dead in the water without a multi-billion dollar bailout.
I really wish Toyota would have brought their Diesel to the US
Amen
Great job on answering my questions on the rear air bags and AVS and hybrid transmission regarding towing Andre. I will wait to order the hybrid with air bags and AVS in the spring.
Looked like the radiator was massive 👀
I owned an 85 SR5 4WD. Straight axle with EFI. Daily driver for 23 years. i also worked at Toyota dealer for 10 years. BUT no more brand loyalty for me. All manu's are doing what EPA forces them into.
So true. Most people don’t realize how much the government dictates car “innovation”
@@joeljenkins9424 They are forcing EV's down peoples throats now.
@@joeljenkins9424 What about that GOV; of people, for people, by people? JK Let's go Brandon!
I Think the camera man had too many red bulls that morning. The camera was moving sooo fast had to keep stopping the video to see the components.
The guy completely ducked the 4auto question lol
4 auto decreases the longevitiy of the system. Ask any Jeep owner, who has 100K or more on his Jeep.
PLEASE add LED lights back inside the bed and TOW HOOKS up front.
Some trims and packages of the new Tundra have in-bed lights.
Toyota designed the truck to never get stuck, so no need for tow hooks
@@ivanalandzak2521 tow hooks aren't only for itself. You can tow someone else out in reverse.
@@ivanalandzak2521 I can get that truck stuck.
They should have put this 3.5 twin turbo hybrid in the new Supra.
The hybrid powertrain should be available on all cab configurations.
wouldn't have the vehicle length needed most likely or they assumed not enough of the market for shorter trucks would buy hybrid to justify the r&d.
@@GhostlyGhille vehicle length really wouldn't matter that much, they can shorten the drive shaft to accommodate the size difference in the drivetrain.
@@ryanfillmore The length available for the transmission is not likely the issue. The battery is under the rear seat, and it may be that only the longer cab has enough space under the seat for it.
I was hoping they came up with their version of a multi use tailgate, a flat floor for the rear seats, and a portable generator from a bigger hybrid system. But a good step for a decade of learning.
I thought the same, and being Toyota they could have done all of that easily. But, perhaps they're thinking that even if they did, people would still go out and buy tons of F-150s and GMCs instead. So why bother? They went as far as making ample changes to hopefully satisfy the Toyota faithful.
You like them Tailgate Wars did the Ridgeline start that with it's Dual-Action old fashioned station wagon tailgate ?
Alex review said he likes Ridgeline better than others. It has gap rocks debris easily clean out unlike others. Only thing no soft damping when drop down.
But your correct on the Tailgate not having multi function. I do like the push panel on side power drop down feature.
This is better than a keyfob.
It is strange that it doesn't have a high-power 120 V inverter.
"This is the double cab model I think" ...oh boy
When can you take this up the Ike? Can’t wait to see you guys do that!
Looks like a 9” Ford rear end.
Andre , this is best review I have seen of the "meat and potatoes" of the new Tundra.
I never buy manufacturer warranties when I buy a new vehicle, but it looks like it might be time.
What's the feature you speak of in the title of the video? Is it the large fuel tank?
Ugh...that grill. Even if I could afford it I wouldn't buy simply because of how hideous the front end is.
You got that right. No chrome bumper either. I loved my 2010 but this is a step down imo.
Journalists want 4 wheel auto and 14 inches screen, not a regular guy.
With no auto 4wd and no “snow” mode I’m guessing Toyota didn’t talk to any owners who deal with snowy roads 4-5 months a year
@Jack K Or just buy a truck with auto 4wd. Toyota should have included that.
The past is great to remember but the future is exciting change is awesome
Andre, Agree with others, you do a great job of asking the pertinent questions and allowing the other person to answer without interrupting. Super! But on a related note, this would have been a great time to ask how come the Tundra no longer has Tow Hooks??? They could always provide a curt and deflective reply that their Tundra never gets stuck! Then the retort would be, but I need Tow Hooks to pull-out my non-Toyota owning buddies - how does that work??? 😃
Great review on hybrid , AVS and Airbag suspension when towing Andre. I will wait until spring to order the hybrid with the advanced pkg in a 6’5” bed.
I’ve been patiently waiting for the hybrid models to be released but it’s tempting just to go ahead and get the non-hybrid model.
11:38 he almost slipped and said “oh the PHEV Prime versions battery will mount here” 😀
Boy that hybrid sure has stuff shoehorned in.
Why didn"t you ask why the hybrid battery was placed under the seats and not the floor?
Why didn't you?
My guess? To keep it in the climate controlled and dry cabin. Hybrid batteries need temp control.
The hybrid better be closer to 30 mpg!
Still a poor showing when fuelly is showing Silverado Hybrid from a decade ago pushing 24 mpg
"...Chevrolet Silverado1500 Hybrid is the only hybrid in the full-size truck segment. Compared with comparable, non-hybrid models, it delivers 33-percent greater city fuel economy and a 23.5-percent improvement in overall fuel economy, all with the capability customers want in full-size truck - including a 6,100-pound (2,767 kg) trailering capacity.
Estimated fuel economy for both 2WD and 4WD models is 20 mpg in the city and 23 on the highway...." GM Media with a larger 300-volt battery and 6.0l V8 circa 2012!
I drive a 2020 gmc sierra AT4 Diesel. I'm getting 27.8 - 33.1 mpg. And 12.5 - 14 mpg towing.
It should be close to what Ford is getting with the F-150 powerboost. It uses a very similar setup as that.
@@andysmith5220 the 3.0T diesel is pushing +35 mpg! Crazy you can get that engine in a Tahoe SUV!
Yup chevy hybrid was so good they dont even make them anymore.............
@@jaycooks1245 the 5.3l with DoD will see similar mpg in V4 compared to Tundra hybrid!
I never understood the point of 4 wheel drive auto. If I want 4wd, in switching to 4wd, regardless of what any sort of auto selection made. But maybe that's just me.
for snow covered asphalt roads, less strain on the drive train.
4auto is awesome for snow covered roads and dry patches
Way to much shit
crammed under the hood. Pass
I thought the engineer knew quite a bit. He didn't want to get too technical and probably bore the audience about what their internal teams calls projects or parts by.
You mean like transmission coolers and tow hooks...oh, wait...
Where is that new aux trans cooler?? I hope its not the mickey mouse heat exchanger only.
Wait, so the motor-generator is practically under the dash?
Yes, just like the torque converter in a conventional automatic setup.
I use auto in winter all the time!
This composite bed looks like it has some texture to it unlike other beds I've seen on recent videos 🤔
The composite bed has a spray in coating it's add-on option if customers want. Makes for less Slippery surface or you could also add Bed Mat.
In one of the videos with Andre and Chief Toyota Engineer Mike Sweers they go around to different Tundra Trucks inside he mentions this. Saying some customers may want the Bed to be Slippery for ease of sliding stuff. Others don't want Bed Slippery if like you standing in walking and it's wet Slippery to fall. More adhesive coating.
@@fredmoss4540 yeah there you go i knew there was something different going on there
What happen if the turbo got damage? How to access? Looks difficult
I’m be waiting for the hybrid version in March …with red interior or maybe brown like the 1794 edition and I hope they have better side steps options then these shown 👎 I don’t like this style at all
Alex completely scooped you guys on this one.. lol
At what RPM does peak torque come in on the regular engine option without hybrid? I know they said 2400 for hybrid.
All those coolant hoses for the water to air intercooler are gross.
The single motor generator sounds like it’ll be a nightmare to get to when it breaks.
looks to be the same as like a clutch job.
When it breaks? What century would that occur in? Motor-generators like that don't break, because there's essentially nothing to fail. It doesn't have brushes like a traditional starter motor or alternator.
@@brianb-p6586 I was just assuming. I apologise.
Interesting, a stripped down look at a new vehicle usually encourages me to want it. This one and its incredibly complicated systems do the opposite this time. This is impossible or extremely expensive to work on and replace parts. Even maintainable wear items look difficult to replace and I work on vehicles all the time. Yikes
This interaction shows just how well toyota listened to its customers. We got under seat storage on the standard engine package. Also no auto 4wd because their customers don't use it... Probably because we never had the option to use it.
Hopefully people can see through all the marketing hype and realize that toyota just ripped off ford. This truck should be called the T150 since it's just toyotas copy of the f150.
If you didn't know, Toyota tried to call it the T150. It was deemed too close to F150, and they named it the Tundra.
@@aj350295 they had the t100 so that doesn't surprise me.
@@browndogstt8546 I thought you knew about T150! if that was just a guess, it was pretty good. Also, Toyota usually comes up with new tech first, but it takes them 10 years to put it into production because R&D and make sure it is reliable, while it takes Ford 2 years to put it into production so it looks like Toyota just copies everyone. The F150 gets a new generation every 3-4 years, Tundra's generation lasts 5x longer.
@@gwot it seems like the big 3 are making model upgrades every couple years now. I drive toyotas because they don't continually reinvent the wheel. I would rather drive and older design that works then always be working on something. I really want to like this truck but its hard to do when it is so blatantly knocking off the f150.
@@browndogstt8546 which part do you keep saying that Toyota is copying F150?
If you thought a Toyota truck was expensive this truck says,,hold my beer!!
LETS GO BRANDON!
Gosh you're clever
What about increasing the font size on the dashboard displays? That could be done with a software upgrade…
From what I could tell that's a nice exhaust.