@@mx9577wrong.. it’s simply to complicated for you; but, Corporatism is not capitalism. CAFR reports for the US Corp “gov”, and it’s subsidiary “gov” corps, show the proxy/majority share holder of the Fortune500 +, is “gov”- U.S.Corporation. You’re likely lost already, and can’t read a CAFR either… but simpCapitalism bad, mmmK away
dont forget to add the rate photoshoped by carriers (dispatchers ) who have leased owner operators some of which never in their working life receive the rate conf directly from the broker but it goes via the carrier who will double broker it or directly photoshoping the rate conf
@@lattehour1 way around that is to dispatch yourself and then just have broker email rate con to dispatch, thats how I do it and I'm leased onto a carrier. I know from the start the rate bc I negotiate it myself
Dat board should alow Only 10 complaint of non payments against brokers companies and so on b4 they flag them off the site with no refund!! And payments need to be 24 hours after delivery!!
And yet, drivers immediately get fuel cards shut off. No consequences for corporations, but if you step out of line even once like forgetting to pay a ticket, you get IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN in the middle of nowhere. But corporations can do whatever they want to, Somehow we’re “free”
This is a good reason why Truckers need to get Unionized and start shutting all of these scams down. -Don't use DAT Load Boards and other Scam Load Boards.
@@jackmeoff2274 Teamsters are what saved Yellow/YRC. Without the Teamsters Yellow was done years ago. -And those Union Workers at Yellow generally make less than average, however they have excellent benefits like Health Care and a Pension.
@@jackmeoff2274Without unionization truckers are getting lower rates and less profit. Unionization is the only way for small o/o to make any changes in the market to benefit them instead of the mega carriers and corporations that make all the rules because they have the power of numbers and money.
@@SandraLongoria unions back in the day used to be good. Now all they do is promote laziness and crybabies. Not all union guys are like that but a good majority of them are.
One of the reasons I was skeptical on getting my own authority. Too many crooks in the trucking industry that are non CDL Holder's who have deep pockets that are paying the government to turn a blind eye.
Why are you guys not running credit checks on these brokers before you do business with them? First thing I do is run the broker credit before I even call them. If their credit is bad I don’t care how much the load paying I don’t call them. I only book freight with brokers that have good credit.
I think it is actually law. I had a freight collections guy explaining it to me. Basically someone has to pay. Either broker or customer is the simple of it.
You need to get a lawyer and sue DAT cause if they’re still allowing it to happened with the complaints being filed. Then they’re at fault. Once you engage a lawyer. Then legal gets involved and if it has heart a group a people then a Class Acton Lawsuit can take place.
FMCSA needs to step up and suspend MC authorities immediately the moment they file for bankruptcy until the air gets cleared. Whether carrier or broker.
I have called the FMCSA many times for many different issues. The response is always simple. They dont care and dont know how they can help. Try calling them and you will see what i am talking about.
That’s not right. DAT needs to be held accountable as well. Keep this information coming. We trucks driver’s can take a stand and shut this broker down. Just don’t haul their loads.
You have to file a complaint form and they'll be an Investigation you call any Government offices over anything they will tell you they don't Care anything without paper work,I am an Independent Dispatcher
DAT should be held liable for being complicit. The company that burned me, King Heaven, was still posting loads AFTER the notice of bond cancelation was put out. Another broker, SEL Supply Chains Solutions, is STILL posting HUNDREDS of loads a day, and their bond got canceled also.
Nah we just need to go back to cash upon delivery or just like when we order something we pay up front before it ships. Maybe we just simply need to get paid upon shipping. Truck don’t leave with freight until bill is paid in full. With a money back guarantee if freight’s destroyed in an accident. Break downs with just need to be rescheduled plain and simple.
Right on! Vote with your wallet. We should all spend more time deciding on whom we do business with and stop increasing profits of bad businesses. Thanks #DIYSEMI and Alex.
Evidently you do not understand bankruptcy laws. They are allowed to continue to operate until restructuring in complete in order to not shut down and service their creditors. If DAT pulls the plug then company goes out of business and no one gets paid beyond assets on hand.If you are that knowledgeable how did you get so far into it.
There needs to be a law to require companies to formally disclose that they are in bankruptcy when they do business with people. In this case they should be required to disclose it on the load board.
Let's put more regulations on truckers. ELD, Speed limitors, weight stations, DOT inspections, physicals, blah blah blah but brokers and loadboard can do whatever they want... Seems fair
Trucker Riddle: DAT tells you to post your truck and the broker sees 97 trucks sitting empty next door... what rate will this broker post on the load board? 🤷🏿♂
They Don't care, unless truckers unite a shut down the nation accross the Boards,truckers need to vote! The illegal Brokers and truckers are ruining the industry.
Someone needs to find out where their head office is and call that county courthouse and notify their bankruptcy trustee what they're doing. They will put a stop to it.
One time I was going into Seattle. Heading up 90 in my rig, and there a weight station on the left, I was closed, but I had crap and needed shower. Bad bad. I pulled in there, put some shorts on run under the bridge, with my axe body wash. Summer water was still cold shit. I wash up little, I was craping with sudds in my hair doing under water cannon ball shaking around little. I Hurd someone laugh when the turd popped up. Someone was watching me
I was burned for $3300 by a broker called King Heaven. I filed against their bond. Their bond was canceled on July 6, so the bond company is taking claims until August 5. I'll then get an answer 10 days after that. Luckily, I filed long before July 6, so I'm near the top of the food chain. But I'm not worried. The shipper was Amazon in Henderson, NV, and the receiver was Amazon in Wilmington, IL. So, the richest company in the world was the sole beneficiary. I called Alexander Witton, and they said that currently, they are settling with Amazon for 50%. I told him, "No thanks." AW just wants to collect quick money with minimal effort. I'll go after Amazon myself if the bond claim doesn't make me whole. They will lose, and I will also ask for court costs and attorney's fees. I doubt that Amazon will want to fight for a measly $3300 and risk having to pay more.
@@johncalvo1743i got burned for 9300..and got 200 dollars from the bond. I was the very first person who filed. If they owe close to a million or more to thousands of truckers..you won't get much.. because their bond is only 75000. I had to go thru these attorney guys ( sharks) to get a little more back ( 4500). They go after the shipper and receivers.. They charge so much money..so you should do it yourself for free ASAP.
Did a load for Surge 2 or 3 months ago. Went through the factoring company, and for all I know, everything was paid. It really sucks. One of the worst things is to do the work and not get paid.
@markchristopherbley9964 They probably already did. It depends on when the load is paid out. They know who pay and who they can play with. Just saying. Pretty sure they paid the factoring company because they money longer were a smaller company O/O would unfortunately have to eat that as a loss, because their money isn't that long....
I also use factoring on my loads never had any problem better not to deal with brokers when it comes to money they make you wait anyway factoring pays out same day or next day and if they approve the load for you to do it then they will pay you for sure
brokers are crooks , i am glad during my trucking companies years i didnt get robbed completely . those people involved from top to bottom should be in jail.
You are too nice. You can call and demand all you want. They won’t here you. Don’t want to hear you. Best thing to do is expose the company, share the information as much as possible and warn people to not haul their loads. Action speaks much much louder than words.
Yeah.... some one is paying someone ... how about this for a law .. I haul your shit ..you pay me then .. how about that ? Why not? ..tell me why they shouldn't. Have to pay me when I'm finished? To he'll with credit ..pay when job is done .. no factoring ..no middleman make g a buck just because they have money ... pay the man who did the job when he finishes ...
#DAT is #Culpable as they #Willingly, #Knowingly and #Negligently are allowing ALL this to take place. It's time to file #Class_Action agains #DAT 💵🔥💵🔥💵🔥💵
I reported a company that double brokered my customer and did not pay them till this day... DAT didn't even acknowledge the report... Only to find out that in the space of time that the double brokers robbed them they robbed others over three hundred thousands of dollars. Get them DIY... How do they still get loads from their Customers?
Nope--not when they are in bankruptcy. All of that debt will likely disappear. Only thing carrier can do is go after shippers and receivers because they are ultimately responsible for the carrier to get paid to haul the freight. (I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice).
Georgia patriot is correct. The broker is irrelevant in this now. If you want your money you go to the shipper and receiver. THEY are responsible for carriers to be paid not brokers. It's an absurd setup
Plot twist... DAT is a mayority owner in surge and they let them keep posting because they are making MILLIONS by not paying truckers. The conspiracy theorists in me lol
Thanks Alex. You did a great service by getting this out!
The problem is much bigger than just DAT.
Can’t believe DAT Load Board let that happen 😡😡😡🤬🤬
And yet the government is turning a blind eye. Let that sink in
THEY ARE THE PROBLEM. The White House is a good place to start.
Capitalism, my friend
Truckers must follow many rules in the real world and this may be an example of White Collar crime protected by law...
Not only that, but they're focusing on us truck drivers still to this day.
@@mx9577wrong.. it’s simply to complicated for you; but, Corporatism is not capitalism. CAFR reports for the US Corp “gov”, and it’s subsidiary “gov” corps, show the proxy/majority share holder of the Fortune500 +, is “gov”- U.S.Corporation. You’re likely lost already, and can’t read a CAFR either… but simpCapitalism bad, mmmK away
Their should be a new rule where brokers are required to have $2 milli bond with all this scams/fraud going on
Truckers have to have million dollar insurance on trucks but they only need 75k, WTF?
Time for a class action lawsuit against. DAT load board.
Should be criminal. I called DAT as well. They gave me the run around. Everyone call DAT and demand answers. #BOYCOTTDAT
DAT is where all the double brokering and scamming is going on.
Its on truckstop aswell.
Moreso on truck stop
@@luislipps5415 truck stop has said something in the past on LinkedIn that they partnered with the FBI to combat this. But its all BS.
dont forget to add the rate photoshoped by carriers (dispatchers ) who have leased owner operators some of which never in their working life receive the rate conf directly from the broker but it goes via the carrier who will double broker it or directly photoshoping the rate conf
@@lattehour1 way around that is to dispatch yourself and then just have broker email rate con to dispatch, thats how I do it and I'm leased onto a carrier. I know from the start the rate bc I negotiate it myself
Dat board should alow Only 10 complaint of non payments against brokers companies and so on b4 they flag them off the site with no refund!! And payments need to be 24 hours after delivery!!
DAT should be run out of business. Scammers! They are all in it together ripping off truck drivers every day!
Where is their headquarters? Pay them a visit
I factor with Love's & Love's won't mess with them.
Thank GOD I'm out of it
And yet, drivers immediately get fuel cards shut off. No consequences for corporations, but if you step out of line even once like forgetting to pay a ticket, you get IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN in the middle of nowhere. But corporations can do whatever they want to,
Somehow we’re “free”
More victims need to do some damage to them. Not just be victims
Don't book through TQL.
Why not what's up with them?
@@overdp They will give a load anyone and
TQL will skim 2000 of the top of each load and TQL is for the ones that a bad FMCSA score.
Drivers should take legal action against DAT because they allow them to post on their platform.
Won’t ever use DAT again. I’m sick of this crap. We need to put these companies out of business. Bud lite em up
DIY for the new OOIDA President 🎉
FMCSA over regulates truckers, but crooked brokers, no. This has to change. Now. Law suits will fly. It's not just money, it people's livelihood.
It’s really ridiculous. As long as they get their money they could care less
DAT treats truckers like sh!t. #FuqDAT They collect data to sell to the broker. 🤔
Thank you for this info. Surge owes the company I work for from two loads we did in June!😱🤬
We use truckstop for our load board
Let's boycott DAT load board
This is a good reason why Truckers need to get Unionized and start shutting all of these scams down.
-Don't use DAT Load Boards and other Scam Load Boards.
The last thing we need is a union. They only promote laziness and crybabies and run buisinesses out of buisiness. Look what they did to Yellow.
@@jackmeoff2274 Teamsters are what saved Yellow/YRC. Without the Teamsters Yellow was done years ago. -And those Union Workers at Yellow generally make less than average, however they have excellent benefits like Health Care and a Pension.
@@jackmeoff2274Without unionization truckers are getting lower rates and less profit. Unionization is the only way for small o/o to make any changes in the market to benefit them instead of the mega carriers and corporations that make all the rules because they have the power of numbers and money.
@@SandraLongoria unions back in the day used to be good. Now all they do is promote laziness and crybabies. Not all union guys are like that but a good majority of them are.
One of the reasons I was skeptical on getting my own authority. Too many crooks in the trucking industry that are non CDL Holder's who have deep pockets that are paying the government to turn a blind eye.
Me too. F that.
What happened when you get your own authority?
So true
@patrickray2329 can you educate me on how to pay the government to turn a blind eye?
Ooida needs to sue dat on truckers behalf. Stop taking owner ops money for a fake union that doesnt do nothing to protect drivers.
Thanks 🙏
Why are you guys not running credit checks on these brokers before you do business with them? First thing I do is run the broker credit before I even call them. If their credit is bad I don’t care how much the load paying I don’t call them. I only book freight with brokers that have good credit.
Brokers are Evil
If the broker dont pay, then the shipper still should pay. They chose to operate this way and they gave the wrong people the money.
What..lol?
Agree 💯
I think it is actually law. I had a freight collections guy explaining it to me. Basically someone has to pay. Either broker or customer is the simple of it.
DAT allow many unethical things. I personally believe DAT dont care as long as the are getting their montly payment.
They dont
Dat lawsuit I smell it coming
I can't wait
They are paying DAT on the low-low! But let me hold ONE load because of none payment!!!!
You need to get a lawyer and sue DAT cause if they’re still allowing it to happened with the complaints being filed. Then they’re at fault. Once you engage a lawyer. Then legal gets involved and if it has heart a group a people then a Class Acton Lawsuit can take place.
No justice for the small guys
As long as brokers pay their monthly fee DAT does not care.
Dat is here to help brokers to make more money nothing is here to help the owner op they just give us pennies to survive
FMCSA needs to step up and suspend MC authorities immediately the moment they file for bankruptcy until the air gets cleared. Whether carrier or broker.
I have called the FMCSA many times for many different issues. The response is always simple. They dont care and dont know how they can help. Try calling them and you will see what i am talking about.
The are more worried about elogs and putting drivers out of service as opposed these issues. Complete joke
That’s not right. DAT needs to be held accountable as well. Keep this information coming. We trucks driver’s can take a stand and shut this broker down. Just don’t haul their loads.
This is bs, they shouldn't be allowed to do any business till everything is squared away.
I say we all cancel our DAT subscription. There’s plenty of load boards out there.
What is the best load board?
You can file with the Dot and have their Authority suspended for failure to Pay a Debt
Who told you that, i have called the FMCSA and they said they dont care.
You have to file a complaint form and they'll be an Investigation you call any Government offices over anything they will tell you they don't Care anything without paper work,I am an Independent Dispatcher
DYI= The godfather of trucking...
I worked for DAT recently. They don’t have a fraud department. I worked for the load board. I have all the contact info of managers directly.
Great job for exposing them DIY & Alex! DAT has now (at least) put out a disclaimer that Surge transportation has filed for bankruptcy.
DAT should be held liable for being complicit. The company that burned me, King Heaven, was still posting loads AFTER the notice of bond cancelation was put out. Another broker, SEL Supply Chains Solutions, is STILL posting HUNDREDS of loads a day, and their bond got canceled also.
Another company is Shah logistics Do NOT BOOK ANY LOADS from them load been on my trailer for 3 months an they still not trying pay
Nah we just need to go back to cash upon delivery or just like when we order something we pay up front before it ships. Maybe we just simply need to get paid upon shipping. Truck don’t leave with freight until bill is paid in full. With a money back guarantee if freight’s destroyed in an accident. Break downs with just need to be rescheduled plain and simple.
Right on! Vote with your wallet. We should all spend more time deciding on whom we do business with and stop increasing profits of bad businesses.
Thanks #DIYSEMI and Alex.
This is wY I sub to DIY. HE'S HONEST
DAT wont let you review any bad about a broker. They have been bought by the brokers.
Get rid of all these scammers brokers!
If the company doesn’t factor wit RTS I won’t book it.
Maybe a good time for a audit. Did Biden not just hire 87,000 tax agents ? Put em to work!
Evidently you do not understand bankruptcy laws. They are allowed to continue to operate until restructuring in complete in order to not shut down and service their creditors. If DAT pulls the plug then company goes out of business and no one gets paid beyond assets on hand.If you are that knowledgeable how did you get so far into it.
There needs to be a law to require companies to formally disclose that they are in bankruptcy when they do business with people. In this case they should be required to disclose it on the load board.
Thanks for the info I have done loads with them in the past I will not do them anymore
Oldest story in Trucking big companies reorganize but drivers and owner operators thanks for hauling our freight for free
Let's put more regulations on truckers. ELD, Speed limitors, weight stations, DOT inspections, physicals, blah blah blah but brokers and loadboard can do whatever they want... Seems fair
Trucker Riddle: DAT tells you to post your truck and the broker sees 97 trucks sitting empty next door... what rate will this broker post on the load board? 🤷🏿♂
They Don't care, unless truckers unite a shut down the nation accross the Boards,truckers need to vote! The illegal Brokers and truckers are ruining the industry.
Don’t worry it will never stop it has not stopped for 30 years
Strongly considering TRUCK STOP. THEY'RE BEING PAID OFF...DUH!!!!
Truck stop isn’t any better
So just sue Dat LOAD board
They might be on Truck Smarter also thanks for the 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 info!!!!!!!! Be blessed 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼👍👍
This is why you dont book loads with brokers and shippers that have a bad credit score.
How come this isnt monitored?
Well it’s time for DAT to get a Law suit for Compulsory to commit fraud . Dat get your shit together!!!!!
Someone needs to find out where their head office is and call that county courthouse and notify their bankruptcy trustee what they're doing. They will put a stop to it.
One time I was going into Seattle. Heading up 90 in my rig, and there a weight station on the left, I was closed, but I had crap and needed shower. Bad bad. I pulled in there, put some shorts on run under the bridge, with my axe body wash. Summer water was still cold shit.
I wash up little, I was craping with sudds in my hair doing under water cannon ball shaking around little. I Hurd someone laugh when the turd popped up. Someone was watching me
I was burned for $3300 by a broker called King Heaven. I filed against their bond. Their bond was canceled on July 6, so the bond company is taking claims until August 5. I'll then get an answer 10 days after that. Luckily, I filed long before July 6, so I'm near the top of the food chain.
But I'm not worried. The shipper was Amazon in Henderson, NV, and the receiver was Amazon in Wilmington, IL. So, the richest company in the world was the sole beneficiary.
I called Alexander Witton, and they said that currently, they are settling with Amazon for 50%. I told him, "No thanks." AW just wants to collect quick money with minimal effort. I'll go after Amazon myself if the bond claim doesn't make me whole. They will lose, and I will also ask for court costs and attorney's fees. I doubt that Amazon will want to fight for a measly $3300 and risk having to pay more.
I wonder who has the deeper pockets, you or amazon.
@@KaMil-gw2qr Why does that matter, you Negative Nelly you!
@@johncalvo1743 I wish you the best brother. Its not a secret companies drag on lawsuits for a reason.
@@KaMil-gw2qr I appreciate it. I'll keep you posted on the outcome.
@@johncalvo1743i got burned for 9300..and got 200 dollars from the bond. I was the very first person who filed. If they owe close to a million or more to thousands of truckers..you won't get much.. because their bond is only 75000. I had to go thru these attorney guys ( sharks) to get a little more back ( 4500). They go after the shipper and receivers.. They charge so much money..so you should do it yourself for free ASAP.
The owner of Surge Transportation is also on the board of TIA.
Thanks for the Heads Up! A couple brokers owe me $7,000 now!
Show me one broker that's on the up and up and on the driver's side! I'll wait
Dat is a part of the system
Dat is complicent in the fraud.. simple
A trucker trying to reason with a frat boy drop out?? They wanna be on a boat... and could careless about anything else.
DAT could be setting themselves up for a class action lawsuit. Win or lose, it’s bad for their business.
Absolutely, it needs to be class action against DAT
We appreciate your job, thank you for let us know
Sue DAT.
Did a load for Surge 2 or 3 months ago. Went through the factoring company, and for all I know, everything was paid. It really sucks. One of the worst things is to do the work and not get paid.
Factoring company won't get paid.
@markchristopherbley9964 They probably already did. It depends on when the load is paid out. They know who pay and who they can play with.
Just saying.
Pretty sure they paid the factoring company because they money longer were a smaller company O/O would unfortunately have to eat that as a loss, because their money isn't that long....
I also use factoring on my loads never had any problem better not to deal with brokers when it comes to money they make you wait anyway factoring pays out same day or next day and if they approve the load for you to do it then they will pay you for sure
brokers are crooks , i am glad during my trucking companies years i didnt get robbed completely . those people involved from top to bottom should be in jail.
Who else noticed that the Dat algorithm is keeping rates artificially low.
You are too nice. You can call and demand all you want. They won’t here you. Don’t want to hear you. Best thing to do is expose the company, share the information as much as possible and warn people to not haul their loads. Action speaks much much louder than words.
THERE IS THIS ENTITY CALLED THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU
TRUCKING INDUSTRY NEEDS ITS OWN "BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU"😮???
Yeah.... some one is paying someone ... how about this for a law .. I haul your shit ..you pay me then .. how about that ? Why not? ..tell me why they shouldn't. Have to pay me when I'm finished? To he'll with credit ..pay when job is done .. no factoring ..no middleman make g a buck just because they have money ... pay the man who did the job when he finishes ...
I was paid by them in June. Guess I'm lucky.
Massive bonuses to the top is killing the middle class!!!!#Embezzlements
They took $2000 from me the government got me f up watching them what ever they want to do but there is someone going to pay for it
#DAT is #Culpable as they #Willingly, #Knowingly and #Negligently are allowing ALL this to take place. It's time to file #Class_Action agains #DAT 💵🔥💵🔥💵🔥💵
I crashed out of the trucking business
I reported a company that double brokered my customer and did not pay them till this day... DAT didn't even acknowledge the report... Only to find out that in the space of time that the double brokers robbed them they robbed others over three hundred thousands of dollars. Get them DIY... How do they still get loads from their Customers?
Alex so can people sue DAT...can you make a video showing how or getting someone to show how
Nope--not when they are in bankruptcy. All of that debt will likely disappear. Only thing carrier can do is go after shippers and receivers because they are ultimately responsible for the carrier to get paid to haul the freight. (I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice).
Georgia patriot is correct. The broker is irrelevant in this now. If you want your money you go to the shipper and receiver. THEY are responsible for carriers to be paid not brokers. It's an absurd setup
Georgia patriot/ you’re an idiot. Read juahjuan’s post again and apologize for being stupid. DAT in banjo.
DAT IS NOT IN BANKO
Dat is reliable for a law suit.
It's smart to get a freight broker license work smart not harder
bingo
Well duh!!!! Surge has been fly-by- night for years. If all y'all got took by these shysters, I do believe y'all deserve what you're getting.
dat is knowingly helping fraud no matter what their terms are it is a crime but everyone harmed should sue dat
Benefit of using a first rate factoring company . OTR Solutions for example.
I’m not an owner op but I still wanna thank you for putting this out, thank you
Elite Transit has a slow paying issue currently aswell
Defund brokers
Plot twist... DAT is a mayority owner in surge and they let them keep posting because they are making MILLIONS by not paying truckers. The conspiracy theorists in me lol
DAT charge extreme amount of money