And yet, drivers immediately get fuel cards shut off. No consequences for corporations, but if you step out of line even once like forgetting to pay a ticket, you get IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN in the middle of nowhere. But corporations can do whatever they want to, Somehow we’re “free”
@@mx9577wrong.. it’s simply to complicated for you; but, Corporatism is not capitalism. CAFR reports for the US Corp “gov”, and it’s subsidiary “gov” corps, show the proxy/majority share holder of the Fortune500 +, is “gov”- U.S.Corporation. You’re likely lost already, and can’t read a CAFR either… but simpCapitalism bad, mmmK away
One of the reasons I was skeptical on getting my own authority. Too many crooks in the trucking industry that are non CDL Holder's who have deep pockets that are paying the government to turn a blind eye.
dont forget to add the rate photoshoped by carriers (dispatchers ) who have leased owner operators some of which never in their working life receive the rate conf directly from the broker but it goes via the carrier who will double broker it or directly photoshoping the rate conf
@@lattehour1 way around that is to dispatch yourself and then just have broker email rate con to dispatch, thats how I do it and I'm leased onto a carrier. I know from the start the rate bc I negotiate it myself
Right on! Vote with your wallet. We should all spend more time deciding on whom we do business with and stop increasing profits of bad businesses. Thanks #DIYSEMI and Alex.
I think it is actually law. I had a freight collections guy explaining it to me. Basically someone has to pay. Either broker or customer is the simple of it.
DAT should be held liable for being complicit. The company that burned me, King Heaven, was still posting loads AFTER the notice of bond cancelation was put out. Another broker, SEL Supply Chains Solutions, is STILL posting HUNDREDS of loads a day, and their bond got canceled also.
I booked 2 loads through them, and it was one of my first loads as a new authority. I haven’t booked one since 2021. I noticed how they kept messing around on the loads. Even though the 2 loads we did went fine. DAT definitely be in sucker moves. DIY should catch them when they go live. Watch how they ignore and sidestep everything
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Did a load for Surge 2 or 3 months ago. Went through the factoring company, and for all I know, everything was paid. It really sucks. One of the worst things is to do the work and not get paid.
@markchristopherbley9964 They probably already did. It depends on when the load is paid out. They know who pay and who they can play with. Just saying. Pretty sure they paid the factoring company because they money longer were a smaller company O/O would unfortunately have to eat that as a loss, because their money isn't that long....
I also use factoring on my loads never had any problem better not to deal with brokers when it comes to money they make you wait anyway factoring pays out same day or next day and if they approve the load for you to do it then they will pay you for sure
You need to get a lawyer and sue DAT cause if they’re still allowing it to happened with the complaints being filed. Then they’re at fault. Once you engage a lawyer. Then legal gets involved and if it has heart a group a people then a Class Acton Lawsuit can take place.
FMCSA needs to step up and suspend MC authorities immediately the moment they file for bankruptcy until the air gets cleared. Whether carrier or broker.
I have called the FMCSA many times for many different issues. The response is always simple. They dont care and dont know how they can help. Try calling them and you will see what i am talking about.
You have to file a complaint form and they'll be an Investigation you call any Government offices over anything they will tell you they don't Care anything without paper work,I am an Independent Dispatcher
There needs to be a law to require companies to formally disclose that they are in bankruptcy when they do business with people. In this case they should be required to disclose it on the load board.
This is a good reason why Truckers need to get Unionized and start shutting all of these scams down. -Don't use DAT Load Boards and other Scam Load Boards.
@@jackmeoff2274 Teamsters are what saved Yellow/YRC. Without the Teamsters Yellow was done years ago. -And those Union Workers at Yellow generally make less than average, however they have excellent benefits like Health Care and a Pension.
@@jackmeoff2274Without unionization truckers are getting lower rates and less profit. Unionization is the only way for small o/o to make any changes in the market to benefit them instead of the mega carriers and corporations that make all the rules because they have the power of numbers and money.
@@SandraLongoria unions back in the day used to be good. Now all they do is promote laziness and crybabies. Not all union guys are like that but a good majority of them are.
Trucker Riddle: DAT tells you to post your truck and the broker sees 97 trucks sitting empty next door... what rate will this broker post on the load board? 🤷🏿♂
I was burned for $3300 by a broker called King Heaven. I filed against their bond. Their bond was canceled on July 6, so the bond company is taking claims until August 5. I'll then get an answer 10 days after that. Luckily, I filed long before July 6, so I'm near the top of the food chain. But I'm not worried. The shipper was Amazon in Henderson, NV, and the receiver was Amazon in Wilmington, IL. So, the richest company in the world was the sole beneficiary. I called Alexander Witton, and they said that currently, they are settling with Amazon for 50%. I told him, "No thanks." AW just wants to collect quick money with minimal effort. I'll go after Amazon myself if the bond claim doesn't make me whole. They will lose, and I will also ask for court costs and attorney's fees. I doubt that Amazon will want to fight for a measly $3300 and risk having to pay more.
@@johncalvo1743i got burned for 9300..and got 200 dollars from the bond. I was the very first person who filed. If they owe close to a million or more to thousands of truckers..you won't get much.. because their bond is only 75000. I had to go thru these attorney guys ( sharks) to get a little more back ( 4500). They go after the shipper and receivers.. They charge so much money..so you should do it yourself for free ASAP.
Whats weird is how DAT allows scammers to post fake loads from other accounts with companies logos but a good way to tell is if their email doesn't have the company name in the @ and I always check for a reference number and if it's posted under a brokers number I always call the company direct and check about that load so don't book if you can't call the company phone number direct it's a scam if they don't have a proper email
Someone needs to find out where their head office is and call that county courthouse and notify their bankruptcy trustee what they're doing. They will put a stop to it.
07/28/23. I called DAT and they confirmed surge transportation can still post loads on DAT load board. They don’t seem to be concerned about small businesses getting paid. Or preventing this from happening in the future. Let’s call DAT and get them to change their policy to prevent small businesses from going bankrupt.
Carriers are STILL going to book book book and book with DAT. Instead of cancelling their subscription with DAT. Imagine if 50,000 trucks unsubscribe that’s a HUGE BLOW. That’s $6,250,000 minimum if 50,000 carriers unsubscribed
Thank you Alex I wanted to book load with them 2days ago but someone else booked I guess I was lucky. I appreciate you for informing us. @mutha trucker
Dat board should alow Only 10 complaint of non payments against brokers companies and so on b4 they flag them off the site with no refund!! And payments need to be 24 hours after delivery!!
One time I was going into Seattle. Heading up 90 in my rig, and there a weight station on the left, I was closed, but I had crap and needed shower. Bad bad. I pulled in there, put some shorts on run under the bridge, with my axe body wash. Summer water was still cold shit. I wash up little, I was craping with sudds in my hair doing under water cannon ball shaking around little. I Hurd someone laugh when the turd popped up. Someone was watching me
You gotta get intouch with the state or federal attorney General and file a complaint,the people that you're talking to has no power to stop these people because there's money involved
I was asked a lot of questions by an employer one time that was trying to get into long haul, his question was: why arent we making any money. My answer was: your not taking back loads, your only hauling one way, and the loads you are getting, have been middle manned by multiple brokers already. They keep skimming it.
Nah we just need to go back to cash upon delivery or just like when we order something we pay up front before it ships. Maybe we just simply need to get paid upon shipping. Truck don’t leave with freight until bill is paid in full. With a money back guarantee if freight’s destroyed in an accident. Break downs with just need to be rescheduled plain and simple.
Nope--not when they are in bankruptcy. All of that debt will likely disappear. Only thing carrier can do is go after shippers and receivers because they are ultimately responsible for the carrier to get paid to haul the freight. (I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice).
Georgia patriot is correct. The broker is irrelevant in this now. If you want your money you go to the shipper and receiver. THEY are responsible for carriers to be paid not brokers. It's an absurd setup
brokers are crooks , i am glad during my trucking companies years i didnt get robbed completely . those people involved from top to bottom should be in jail.
Why are you guys not running credit checks on these brokers before you do business with them? First thing I do is run the broker credit before I even call them. If their credit is bad I don’t care how much the load paying I don’t call them. I only book freight with brokers that have good credit.
Evidently you do not understand bankruptcy laws. They are allowed to continue to operate until restructuring in complete in order to not shut down and service their creditors. If DAT pulls the plug then company goes out of business and no one gets paid beyond assets on hand.If you are that knowledgeable how did you get so far into it.
Rookie move to not book loads directly on the brokers app or website its only left overs on Dat board, Dude should have asked them how is it possible for a scammer to post loads under someone else's MC# money exchanging hand over multiple states makes all this broker scams a federal crime but its all about the government dont care but they will when the stores are empty
Let's put more regulations on truckers. ELD, Speed limitors, weight stations, DOT inspections, physicals, blah blah blah but brokers and loadboard can do whatever they want... Seems fair
Its called a civil court system. This is separate from criminal court. When you sign the broker agreement you are basically agreeing to be defrauded. This makes the white collar crime legal. They take the money file bankruptcy walk away and start a new brokerage and do it all over again.
Plot twist... DAT is a mayority owner in surge and they let them keep posting because they are making MILLIONS by not paying truckers. The conspiracy theorists in me lol
You have a remedy in bankruptcy court, request to appointment of administrator to do accounting, then see where money went maybe criminal charges from that.
That’s not right. DAT needs to be held accountable as well. Keep this information coming. We trucks driver’s can take a stand and shut this broker down. Just don’t haul their loads.
I will never understand why we don't demand our money immediately before delivery as an industry. They get their money upfront (the brokers) I'm sure of it. Hopefully this will change that but i doubt it.
I told the broker i wanted payment in full upfront or on delivery and they laughed and got the load pulled 5min later for less money with a 30 day promise to pay. So i tried the next broker and the same thing happened. That is when i went and got a 9-5 job like the rest of the world
Usually when a broker owes a small amount of money we usually call the company that we hauled the load for and they 95% of the time will pay after a large investigation on why we didn't get paid, very unfortunate
in either 2000 or 2001 not sure which a company i haqd been leased on with started playing with my money i found sa agency in houston called HILLARY AND ASSOCIATES i believe was the name i called them and the fellow tole me he was going right thru where the company was and 2 days later he called me and said where do you want me to send your money.. i laughed and asked him if he took a chainsaw to the door he laughed too anyway hios fee was 30% so i gladly agreed because 70% of something is more than 100% of nothing 3 days lalter i had my money i told others but most didnt want to use that place i dont know if they are still in business but i was one happy camper
Cancel brokers 2024 companies should pay direct don’t get why it’s so hard trucking is almost as crooked as boxing bro eld hours parking the more I learn about trucking the more I hate it honestly I only been on the road for two years and man we’re being DP’d daily you can’t trust anyone out here I hate how I honestly see no hope in any protest or speaking to slugs run laps on the pace of fmcsa and Dot I’m about to just get a job with them I would love to make money and sit on my ass and not change a thing they probably making six figures sitting at a desk on Twitter this is some Bull…
Thanks Alex. You did a great service by getting this out!
The problem is much bigger than just DAT.
And yet, drivers immediately get fuel cards shut off. No consequences for corporations, but if you step out of line even once like forgetting to pay a ticket, you get IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN in the middle of nowhere. But corporations can do whatever they want to,
Somehow we’re “free”
More victims need to do some damage to them. Not just be victims
And yet the government is turning a blind eye. Let that sink in
THEY ARE THE PROBLEM. The White House is a good place to start.
Capitalism, my friend
Truckers must follow many rules in the real world and this may be an example of White Collar crime protected by law...
Not only that, but they're focusing on us truck drivers still to this day.
@@mx9577wrong.. it’s simply to complicated for you; but, Corporatism is not capitalism. CAFR reports for the US Corp “gov”, and it’s subsidiary “gov” corps, show the proxy/majority share holder of the Fortune500 +, is “gov”- U.S.Corporation. You’re likely lost already, and can’t read a CAFR either… but simpCapitalism bad, mmmK away
One of the reasons I was skeptical on getting my own authority. Too many crooks in the trucking industry that are non CDL Holder's who have deep pockets that are paying the government to turn a blind eye.
Me too. F that.
What happened when you get your own authority?
So true
@patrickray2329 can you educate me on how to pay the government to turn a blind eye?
DAT is where all the double brokering and scamming is going on.
Its on truckstop aswell.
Moreso on truck stop
@@luislipps5415 truck stop has said something in the past on LinkedIn that they partnered with the FBI to combat this. But its all BS.
dont forget to add the rate photoshoped by carriers (dispatchers ) who have leased owner operators some of which never in their working life receive the rate conf directly from the broker but it goes via the carrier who will double broker it or directly photoshoping the rate conf
@@lattehour1 way around that is to dispatch yourself and then just have broker email rate con to dispatch, thats how I do it and I'm leased onto a carrier. I know from the start the rate bc I negotiate it myself
Should be criminal. I called DAT as well. They gave me the run around. Everyone call DAT and demand answers. #BOYCOTTDAT
Right on! Vote with your wallet. We should all spend more time deciding on whom we do business with and stop increasing profits of bad businesses.
Thanks #DIYSEMI and Alex.
This is bs, they shouldn't be allowed to do any business till everything is squared away.
DAT allow many unethical things. I personally believe DAT dont care as long as the are getting their montly payment.
They dont
If the broker dont pay, then the shipper still should pay. They chose to operate this way and they gave the wrong people the money.
What..lol?
Agree 💯
I think it is actually law. I had a freight collections guy explaining it to me. Basically someone has to pay. Either broker or customer is the simple of it.
DAT should be held liable for being complicit. The company that burned me, King Heaven, was still posting loads AFTER the notice of bond cancelation was put out. Another broker, SEL Supply Chains Solutions, is STILL posting HUNDREDS of loads a day, and their bond got canceled also.
I booked 2 loads through them, and it was one of my first loads as a new authority. I haven’t booked one since 2021. I noticed how they kept messing around on the loads. Even though the 2 loads we did went fine. DAT definitely be in sucker moves. DIY should catch them when they go live. Watch how they ignore and sidestep everything
Who do you book loads with?
As long as brokers pay their monthly fee DAT does not care.
Dat is here to help brokers to make more money nothing is here to help the owner op they just give us pennies to survive
FMCSA over regulates truckers, but crooked brokers, no. This has to change. Now. Law suits will fly. It's not just money, it people's livelihood.
It’s really ridiculous. As long as they get their money they could care less
Thanks DIY for the heads up!
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Did a load for Surge 2 or 3 months ago. Went through the factoring company, and for all I know, everything was paid. It really sucks. One of the worst things is to do the work and not get paid.
Factoring company won't get paid.
@markchristopherbley9964 They probably already did. It depends on when the load is paid out. They know who pay and who they can play with.
Just saying.
Pretty sure they paid the factoring company because they money longer were a smaller company O/O would unfortunately have to eat that as a loss, because their money isn't that long....
I also use factoring on my loads never had any problem better not to deal with brokers when it comes to money they make you wait anyway factoring pays out same day or next day and if they approve the load for you to do it then they will pay you for sure
Get rid of all these scammers brokers!
I factor with Love's & Love's won't mess with them.
You need to get a lawyer and sue DAT cause if they’re still allowing it to happened with the complaints being filed. Then they’re at fault. Once you engage a lawyer. Then legal gets involved and if it has heart a group a people then a Class Acton Lawsuit can take place.
FMCSA needs to step up and suspend MC authorities immediately the moment they file for bankruptcy until the air gets cleared. Whether carrier or broker.
I have called the FMCSA many times for many different issues. The response is always simple. They dont care and dont know how they can help. Try calling them and you will see what i am talking about.
The are more worried about elogs and putting drivers out of service as opposed these issues. Complete joke
Great job for exposing them DIY & Alex! DAT has now (at least) put out a disclaimer that Surge transportation has filed for bankruptcy.
I’m not an owner op but I still wanna thank you for putting this out, thank you
You can file with the Dot and have their Authority suspended for failure to Pay a Debt
Who told you that, i have called the FMCSA and they said they dont care.
You have to file a complaint form and they'll be an Investigation you call any Government offices over anything they will tell you they don't Care anything without paper work,I am an Independent Dispatcher
DAT treats truckers like sh!t. #FuqDAT They collect data to sell to the broker. 🤔
They are paying DAT on the low-low! But let me hold ONE load because of none payment!!!!
There needs to be a law to require companies to formally disclose that they are in bankruptcy when they do business with people. In this case they should be required to disclose it on the load board.
DAT should be run out of business. Scammers! They are all in it together ripping off truck drivers every day!
Thanks for the Heads Up! A couple brokers owe me $7,000 now!
Can’t believe DAT Load Board let that happen 😡😡😡🤬🤬
Time for a class action lawsuit against. DAT load board.
This is a good reason why Truckers need to get Unionized and start shutting all of these scams down.
-Don't use DAT Load Boards and other Scam Load Boards.
The last thing we need is a union. They only promote laziness and crybabies and run buisinesses out of buisiness. Look what they did to Yellow.
@@jackmeoff2274 Teamsters are what saved Yellow/YRC. Without the Teamsters Yellow was done years ago. -And those Union Workers at Yellow generally make less than average, however they have excellent benefits like Health Care and a Pension.
@@jackmeoff2274Without unionization truckers are getting lower rates and less profit. Unionization is the only way for small o/o to make any changes in the market to benefit them instead of the mega carriers and corporations that make all the rules because they have the power of numbers and money.
@@SandraLongoria unions back in the day used to be good. Now all they do is promote laziness and crybabies. Not all union guys are like that but a good majority of them are.
Brokers are Evil
Trucker Riddle: DAT tells you to post your truck and the broker sees 97 trucks sitting empty next door... what rate will this broker post on the load board? 🤷🏿♂
We appreciate your job, thank you for let us know
I was burned for $3300 by a broker called King Heaven. I filed against their bond. Their bond was canceled on July 6, so the bond company is taking claims until August 5. I'll then get an answer 10 days after that. Luckily, I filed long before July 6, so I'm near the top of the food chain.
But I'm not worried. The shipper was Amazon in Henderson, NV, and the receiver was Amazon in Wilmington, IL. So, the richest company in the world was the sole beneficiary.
I called Alexander Witton, and they said that currently, they are settling with Amazon for 50%. I told him, "No thanks." AW just wants to collect quick money with minimal effort. I'll go after Amazon myself if the bond claim doesn't make me whole. They will lose, and I will also ask for court costs and attorney's fees. I doubt that Amazon will want to fight for a measly $3300 and risk having to pay more.
I wonder who has the deeper pockets, you or amazon.
@@KaMil-gw2qr Why does that matter, you Negative Nelly you!
@@johncalvo1743 I wish you the best brother. Its not a secret companies drag on lawsuits for a reason.
@@KaMil-gw2qr I appreciate it. I'll keep you posted on the outcome.
@@johncalvo1743i got burned for 9300..and got 200 dollars from the bond. I was the very first person who filed. If they owe close to a million or more to thousands of truckers..you won't get much.. because their bond is only 75000. I had to go thru these attorney guys ( sharks) to get a little more back ( 4500). They go after the shipper and receivers.. They charge so much money..so you should do it yourself for free ASAP.
Their should be a new rule where brokers are required to have $2 milli bond with all this scams/fraud going on
Truckers have to have million dollar insurance on trucks but they only need 75k, WTF?
Won’t ever use DAT again. I’m sick of this crap. We need to put these companies out of business. Bud lite em up
Drivers should take legal action against DAT because they allow them to post on their platform.
Whats weird is how DAT allows scammers to post fake loads from other accounts with companies logos but a good way to tell is if their email doesn't have the company name in the @ and I always check for a reference number and if it's posted under a brokers number I always call the company direct and check about that load so don't book if you can't call the company phone number direct it's a scam if they don't have a proper email
Someone needs to find out where their head office is and call that county courthouse and notify their bankruptcy trustee what they're doing. They will put a stop to it.
Where is their headquarters? Pay them a visit
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07/28/23. I called DAT and they confirmed surge transportation can still post loads on DAT load board. They don’t seem to be concerned about small businesses getting paid. Or preventing this from happening in the future.
Let’s call DAT and get them to change their policy to prevent small businesses from going bankrupt.
Carriers are STILL going to book book book and book with DAT. Instead of cancelling their subscription with DAT. Imagine if 50,000 trucks unsubscribe that’s a HUGE BLOW. That’s $6,250,000 minimum if 50,000 carriers unsubscribed
The problem is that they are getting paid and that all that matters to them. If I I got burned by a broker then I would sue the broker as well.
Don't book through TQL.
Why not what's up with them?
@@overdp They will give a load anyone and
TQL will skim 2000 of the top of each load and TQL is for the ones that a bad FMCSA score.
Thank you Alex I wanted to book load with them 2days ago but someone else booked I guess I was lucky. I appreciate you for informing us. @mutha trucker
It's smart to get a freight broker license work smart not harder
bingo
Dat board should alow Only 10 complaint of non payments against brokers companies and so on b4 they flag them off the site with no refund!! And payments need to be 24 hours after delivery!!
Ooida needs to sue dat on truckers behalf. Stop taking owner ops money for a fake union that doesnt do nothing to protect drivers.
One time I was going into Seattle. Heading up 90 in my rig, and there a weight station on the left, I was closed, but I had crap and needed shower. Bad bad. I pulled in there, put some shorts on run under the bridge, with my axe body wash. Summer water was still cold shit.
I wash up little, I was craping with sudds in my hair doing under water cannon ball shaking around little. I Hurd someone laugh when the turd popped up. Someone was watching me
No justice for the small guys
Thanks for the info I have done loads with them in the past I will not do them anymore
This is why you dont book loads with brokers and shippers that have a bad credit score.
Strongly considering TRUCK STOP. THEY'RE BEING PAID OFF...DUH!!!!
Truck stop isn’t any better
Yellow posted some loads yesterday too lol.. I hope we all know better
You gotta get intouch with the state or federal attorney General and file a complaint,the people that you're talking to has no power to stop these people because there's money involved
I was asked a lot of questions by an employer one time that was trying to get into long haul, his question was: why arent we making any money.
My answer was: your not taking back loads, your only hauling one way, and the loads you are getting, have been middle manned by multiple brokers already. They keep skimming it.
Be careful of affiliate broker companies with surge transportation. Loads could be moved through subsidiaries.
Nah we just need to go back to cash upon delivery or just like when we order something we pay up front before it ships. Maybe we just simply need to get paid upon shipping. Truck don’t leave with freight until bill is paid in full. With a money back guarantee if freight’s destroyed in an accident. Break downs with just need to be rescheduled plain and simple.
Oldest story in Trucking big companies reorganize but drivers and owner operators thanks for hauling our freight for free
Thanks for the video sir!
Alex so can people sue DAT...can you make a video showing how or getting someone to show how
Nope--not when they are in bankruptcy. All of that debt will likely disappear. Only thing carrier can do is go after shippers and receivers because they are ultimately responsible for the carrier to get paid to haul the freight. (I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice).
Georgia patriot is correct. The broker is irrelevant in this now. If you want your money you go to the shipper and receiver. THEY are responsible for carriers to be paid not brokers. It's an absurd setup
Georgia patriot/ you’re an idiot. Read juahjuan’s post again and apologize for being stupid. DAT in banjo.
DAT IS NOT IN BANKO
Common sense has been abandoned in this banana republic we now live in. Everything is the opposite of how it once was.
Thank you for this info. Surge owes the company I work for from two loads we did in June!😱🤬
We use truckstop for our load board
Sad thing is half these idiot truck drivers have filed bankruptcy and not paid their own bills ,and they get mad when someone does it to them .
A trucker trying to reason with a frat boy drop out?? They wanna be on a boat... and could careless about anything else.
Thank GOD I'm out of it
Thanks 🙏
brokers are crooks , i am glad during my trucking companies years i didnt get robbed completely . those people involved from top to bottom should be in jail.
Why are you guys not running credit checks on these brokers before you do business with them? First thing I do is run the broker credit before I even call them. If their credit is bad I don’t care how much the load paying I don’t call them. I only book freight with brokers that have good credit.
Dat is a part of the system
Evidently you do not understand bankruptcy laws. They are allowed to continue to operate until restructuring in complete in order to not shut down and service their creditors. If DAT pulls the plug then company goes out of business and no one gets paid beyond assets on hand.If you are that knowledgeable how did you get so far into it.
It's one of them things like never forgot it. Like how long was he there. Weird stuff. Dude lost control soon as the turd popped up.
Where the F is the money? As a broker you have minimal overhead.
Rookie move to not book loads directly on the brokers app or website its only left overs on Dat board, Dude should have asked them how is it possible for a scammer to post loads under someone else's MC# money exchanging hand over multiple states makes all this broker scams a federal crime but its all about the government dont care but they will when the stores are empty
Another company is Shah logistics Do NOT BOOK ANY LOADS from them load been on my trailer for 3 months an they still not trying pay
Let's put more regulations on truckers. ELD, Speed limitors, weight stations, DOT inspections, physicals, blah blah blah but brokers and loadboard can do whatever they want... Seems fair
Its called a civil court system. This is separate from criminal court. When you sign the broker agreement you are basically agreeing to be defrauded. This makes the white collar crime legal. They take the money file bankruptcy walk away and start a new brokerage and do it all over again.
It’s a disgrace!!!
Plot twist... DAT is a mayority owner in surge and they let them keep posting because they are making MILLIONS by not paying truckers. The conspiracy theorists in me lol
You have a remedy in bankruptcy court, request to appointment of administrator to do accounting, then see where money went maybe criminal charges from that.
dat is knowingly helping fraud no matter what their terms are it is a crime but everyone harmed should sue dat
Working a man and then not paying him is the most criminal thing you can do...
That’s not right. DAT needs to be held accountable as well. Keep this information coming. We trucks driver’s can take a stand and shut this broker down. Just don’t haul their loads.
Well it’s time for DAT to get a Law suit for Compulsory to commit fraud . Dat get your shit together!!!!!
Everybody is in on ripping the trucks off
I was thinking about going to DAT….. not sure what to do next.😮😮😮
Don’t worry it will never stop it has not stopped for 30 years
I will never understand why we don't demand our money immediately before delivery as an industry. They get their money upfront (the brokers) I'm sure of it. Hopefully this will change that but i doubt it.
I told the broker i wanted payment in full upfront or on delivery and they laughed and got the load pulled 5min later for less money with a 30 day promise to pay. So i tried the next broker and the same thing happened. That is when i went and got a 9-5 job like the rest of the world
@@clemsmith8799because brokers are paid by shippers in three months… you have factoring companies that pay you next day….
I use factoring company same day pay before 12 pm next day pay after 12 pm
Yellow logistics is on DAT too
Usually when a broker owes a small amount of money we usually call the company that we hauled the load for and they 95% of the time will pay after a large investigation on why we didn't get paid, very unfortunate
I worked for DAT recently. They don’t have a fraud department. I worked for the load board. I have all the contact info of managers directly.
in either 2000 or 2001 not sure which a company i haqd been leased on with started playing with my money i found sa agency in houston called HILLARY AND ASSOCIATES i believe was the name i called them and the fellow tole me he was going right thru where the company was and 2 days later he called me and said where do you want me to send your money.. i laughed and asked him if he took a chainsaw to the door he laughed too anyway hios fee was 30% so i gladly agreed because 70% of something is more than 100% of nothing 3 days lalter i had my money i told others but most didnt want to use that place i dont know if they are still in business but i was one happy camper
If they file Chapter 7 ain't nobody getting paid unless there's a lean on something,if it's a debt they owe your SOL
Well duh!!!! Surge has been fly-by- night for years. If all y'all got took by these shysters, I do believe y'all deserve what you're getting.
Where's the money....
I'm certain that the broker got paid by the shippers aka their customers
Cancel brokers 2024 companies should pay direct don’t get why it’s so hard trucking is almost as crooked as boxing bro eld hours parking the more I learn about trucking the more I hate it honestly I only been on the road for two years and man we’re being DP’d daily you can’t trust anyone out here I hate how I honestly see no hope in any protest or speaking to slugs run laps on the pace of fmcsa and Dot I’m about to just get a job with them I would love to make money and sit on my ass and not change a thing they probably making six figures sitting at a desk on Twitter this is some Bull…
I say we all cancel our DAT subscription. There’s plenty of load boards out there.
What is the best load board?
DAT could be setting themselves up for a class action lawsuit. Win or lose, it’s bad for their business.
Absolutely, it needs to be class action against DAT
My name is Guito, in my younger days I was. Hit man in Boston……..I still remember how to do it. Don’t pay me. See what happens