The initial appeal of the concept of Vtuber is that seeing an anime/manga character alive as if they exist in real life (albeit virtually on the internet). That was my first thought when I watched them. They're relighting the candle. My next hope is to see an actual traditional vtuber back. Doing RUclipsr things but as an anime character.
Yup, I even initially thought they were JP natives. Not only from their fluent language, but from the way they structure and do streaming as a whole. Well, given their background, the influence is clear.
From their debuts I got the vibe that Fuwamoco and Bijou were interested in being vtubers from days past. Fuwamoco handled their models well and connected with that aspect of it, it's not just an avatar, it's important. I haven't had much time to check out much of their streams to confirm though. I don't really need extensive roleplaying, but it's nice to see when vtubers incorporate part of their design into themselves so that while we see the streamer's personality the model doesn't become irrelevant. Some models definitely have less to work with though.
Fuwawa has more control over her model than anyone currently in Hololive save a couple members. That’s kinda why they’re amongst my favorites now. It’s a slept upon thing that frustrates me that most VTubers are perpetually in happy mode when doing or playing anything. Some exceptions are Baelz, Calli, Pekora, and Miko I’d say.
I love Korone a lot, her overwhelming positivity never fails to brighten my day, one of my favourite Holomems, and FuwaMoco are perfect, because they're basically English speaking Korones, and knowing about their past just makes it all the more enjoyable to watch them stream
Samething for me korone the first vtuber I saw and the vtuber that brought me into this rabbit hole and still I'd my favorite vtuber tell this day. The twins to me imo are jp vtubers but in en because like hololive jp they are in full character. Also I really want the twins and korone collab because that will be so wholesome and cute moments.
GAWR GURA said she's been feeling inspired by FuwaMoco! That she wants to do more wholesome in character Idol stuff in her streams! FuwaMoco are a breath of fresh air, and blur the line between being in character and just having fun. Very bright future for these doggos and Hololive BAU BAU🐾
It's great that the new blood has inspired the senpai, I hope the positive energy stays strong, but let's also be careful not to compare the girls too much either
Good. I got the same feeling during Fuwamoco's debut as I did when Gura sang Ride On Time in hers. That feeling that no matter how shit things are, I have something to look forward to. I haven't wanted to watch every stream from a single channel in a long time, but here we are.
Like a certain guy once said *"Vtubers are like wrestlers"* We all know they're just playing characters, it might be fake but it's so entertaining to watch. So who cares? I love them all!
They could easily be compared to one of the three most famous tag team stables of all time since their unforgettable 3 way rivalry during the attitude era The Hardy Boyz Matt and Jeff, the Dudley Boyz Buh Buh Ray and D'Von, then Edge and Christian
100% true. I've noticed that most vtubers will start out with the character but drop it quickly in favor of just being themselves. I can even see it in gura who was pretty different at the start. Fuwamoco is the best for bringing it all back.
Well, if you had to act as a completely different person for 10-15+ hours a week It would be hard to keep it up for any longer than a month without stuff slipping through while telling stories, making jokes, talking to coworkers, things like that without breaking character
@@autisticmoneybtw, you can roleplay someone is more close to your personality but still distinct from your true self. It can be done, that's literally how humans in general act with people from different social groups. That's literally how I am with my church peeps, my choir peeps, my drinking peeps, my college peeps, my nerd peeps, my sports peeps, etc. There are some inside jokes that are heresy to say in another group, and behaviors that only appear when you surround yourself with certain types of people. Of course, there will be people who can't really do those things, no one is forcing them to. That said, there are some who are great at shifting behaviors and characters to fit the current situation(hence why we have actors, actresses).
I fully agree. they are a breath of fresh air. they immediately set themselves apart. I am so glad that Yagoo and Cover took their time to find the diamonds that are ADVENT
That's why yagoo the goat how many big agency's will take a chance on calli who was just an underground rapper with no streaming experience and Kiara who's been let go of being an idol in the past and don't have a unique talent and now fuwamoco who was let go of there previous agency because they didn't put out enough money for the agency and them also being a 2 for 1 because business it makes sense to spite them up and have both them have there own channels.
For me the peak of vtuber role-playing was Marine's 78-year-old stream - she not only stayed in character and held a voice for a whole hour, she basically provided an epilogue for a few Hololive stories, which basically never advance past each talents debut, Haachama eing the exception in that she built and acted on something new essentially from scratch. Not sure if the twins measure up to that, but hood on them for trying.
No lie Gen 3 made me interested in vtubers again. They’re a refreshing bunch. Would support the twin doggos the most because they really deserve to be there.
Pekora, laplus, korone, fubuki are big on roleplay and they are pretty big among hololive too. Myth used to do it(and I think it is 1 of the factor make them pop up so much)
Ame is the only one who currently takes advantage of her character with the Time traveler shenanigans, but the others are just themselves with a vtuber model at this point lol Gura kinda worked with the character back when reflect was released and she created the red gura model, but thats it.
@@Kiriemydefinitely why Fauna is very consistent in my watch time in YT. She knows her character well and goes with it naturally. This is why I naturally go to Fuwamoco for the same thing. But nowadays, bookish nerds like Shiori that play piano where I'm at in the meantime.
Fuwamoco have been nothing but adorable doggos. They've quickly become one of my favorites to watch. Especially since this is the first time hololive has done 2 talents with 1 channel. Plus, knowing their backstory, which hits like a truck. Makes them even more incredible as talents.
This is what I tried to defend 2 years ago: when people (including some vtubers) start to make fun of vtubers with roleplaying, like you said, that's the thing that makes vtubers different than normal streamers.
The thing is that in the west a lot of people think that vtubers are basically a streamer with an avatar when originally there were like anime character streaming not just a streamer hiding behind an avatar
yeah that notion is one of the many factors in the ongoing decline of vtubing in the West. many of them forget what made vtubing popular in the first place
Dude their general overall fluffiness is just so damn good for my heart. College is just right around the corner, I cant wait to be watching FuwaMoco while riding the train back home from school.
Holo K9 needs a couple of more Doggos to be true to it's name, but I'm most hyped for a FuwaMoco OkaKoro Collab! The amount of diabetes induced cuteness might be too much for the viewers to handle!
100% agree. Fuwawa and Mococo are immersed in their characters, and I love it so much. The Hololive standard is that the character is a thin sheet over the top of the talent just being themselves. While they're all wonderful and charming that way, the commitment makes the pure sweetness of FuwaMoco just that much better.
I'm a 33yo man who thought he had no more feelings left inside. I fkn cried my heart out during their karaoke. They rekindled my enthusiasm for hololive. Feels like 2020 again to me. Biboo too btw.
I said this in the live chat already, but we needed people who were able to REALLY play a character. I can appreciate the voice actor aspect, but we need more people willing to go all in on playing the part rather than just using it as set dressing
I feel like this going to big thing for hololive en to look for in the future in future gens. Vtubers playing character in hololive jp has always been a thing but thanks to the twins big success and them highly likely going to be the biggest advent members they will look for people who can play character. One person who can play character for hololive en each gen
@@kinglightning5256 I hope so. The basics of real life acting mixed with the technology COVER has could prove revolutionary if they get the right talents to innovate
I think this is what's putting Marine on the rise as well (she has surpassed Pekora by a pretty decent margin as the most popular JP member, subscriber-wise at least). Even after several years of Vtubing, she is still pretty dedicated to playing the horny pirate and pretend 17 year old shtick (like, all her original songs are based on those concepts), and people love her for it.
I'm not against it but I'm just worried about those parasocial fans that might think they aren't real people and just anime characters that can be treated as objects. That's the danger of putting up that illusion. It's not like it doesn't happen even if they're not acting but the chances are much higher if they do. It's why a lot of vtubers stopped their roleplaying because it has some benefits and advantages and it can help them avoid those kinds of problems in the future. EDIT: Also it's difficult to the point that it's pointless to keep playing character because the illusion can get ruined just from technical issues, lack of preparation, sudden stream transitions, etc. A lot of people can notice it, become aware and eventually get tired of them still trying to keep up an act.
I don't share any similar interests with Fuwamoco, I don't get excited over their game selections, I don't even know what they're saying half the time, but I've watched more of their content than I have any RUclipsr in a long while. They cast a spell on me with the doggo roleplay, twins dynamic, and cute anime girl noises 😵💫
Hahahaha, I can relate so much. Most of the games they play aren't even my taste and yet I stayed because of the twin doggo character they're playing. Just the character themselves is entertaining to me, and I don't really mind whatever content they are doing in the stream.
Man finally i found comment that is relatable to me, and to be honest fuwamoco is the 1st vtubers i consistently become member because i love spamming bau bau
While ive never been a fan of the hard kayfabe and just found it distracting cringe most of the time, FuwaMoco are damn amazing at it. (Been here since Coco debut, fight me) Even Bijou said "wow its like you two are actually real dogs". DN nailed it towards the end with "no politics, make me forget the world's problems for a bit". Hololive has been so incredibly good at training their talent on how to avoid politics so thouroughly it feels like im in 2006 again where the most political thing was debating which next gen console ro buy. Hell ive seen EN girls offhandedly say word for word what is normally considered a political statement and not 1 comment pointed it out. Its like everyone there just forgets about politics during the stream and context matters again!
Especially since their past dilemmas went to crap, they actually revolutionized this. I'd go on to say that Shiroi also adds more variety in what she does than just singing, chatting, and video games. Never once ran into a Vtuber that would talk so much about books and stuff that'd remind you of your schooldays, but you are somehow interested in it this time. Bijou and Nerissa just set the new bar on their own sizes and personalities. They really are the Advent of Hololive.
Shiori is definitely a unique specimen, why I was naturally drawn to her once she started nerding out on books, then doing a parasite microscope stream. I do educational content streams like these.
The whole point of vtubing to me is believing anime is real. I don't want to know about the girls behind the avatar, they're not real, they don't exist, because the character IS REAL. That's why I first fell in love with Kizuna Ai, she NEVER broke character and she was always an "AI" and never talked about growing up as a real person. And its why I fell in love with GGNL too, because the girls there were 100% their characters and never broke character either, it was like the visual novel was taking place in our real world and the characters were real. Fuwamoco gets it. And for people like me who stopped following Vtubers after Kizuna's hiatus because none of the modern Vtubers felt virtual anymore, Fuwamoco is both a breath of fresh air and a return to the golden age.
I do vtubing myself, and I agree with you. Playing a role is fun. I like getting into character. Having said that... the character I play is me. I am the character. Sure, maybe I'm not a magic slug in real life, but I love being a magic slug when I am the magic slug. I'm still getting used to performing as the magic slug, but honestly, I think this video has motivated me to try and be more cringe.
I love how you say "Anime girls pretending to be dogs" as if Anime girls and boys are real. They're not, but we understand what you mean. And unlike other "reincarnations" like Henya and Nazuna who are basically the same characters as their previous lives, Fuwamoco are not just Japanese Tour Guides Again. It's not like there's no overlap in their appeal, but they are very different characters. They're an example to all VTubers to take "reincarnation" as an opportunity to try something different.
FuwaMoco is like how Johnny Depp create Captain Jack Sparrow by inserting part of himself into the character to make it came to life. That makes their character feel alive instead of just a costume for streamers.
Honestly knowing their past lives, they were everywhere together and actually look like sisters. I don't think it's as much roleplay as much as it is organic. It was their personal Twitter. It's always been like that for them, lol
I will NEVER let my guard down on FUWAMOCO. They can try to brainwash me with all their RP cuteness and yeah is admittedly hurts my being saying all this cause I do like them and they're an absolute jo..AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!BUTKORONEWILLALWAYSBEMYKAMIOSHI!!!!!
honestly i am okay with both types. i think there are those who can and should do roleplay, specifically the ones with interesting concepts, but i also think there is a place for the faceless content creator who uses an anime character to represent themselves.
No problem with that. Fuwamoco was the main focus because of how niche the first vtuber concepts became nowadays; like playing the actual character like how actors in movies do. Still fine doing the latter(it's actually the most prominent vtuber setup so that's something), just hoping we get more of the former one(the dedicated kayfabe).
It's been a breath of fresh air man.... Another thing is Shiori which probably has the tightest freaking community where even her pre-chat has its own jokes and sends SCs even when it isn't live. She interacts with her community such as fanworks a lot and I haven't see anyone interact with her fans as much as she does
this is what vtubing is all about, being cute anime girls/boys/doggos/whatever doing cute anime things. it's not always being horni and showing off your real bod just for thirst traps (looking at most indie vtubers nowadays). anyways, so nice to have things like this brought back to the table and hololive just never missed the spot
This is accurate. I've wanted this for so long. I go into vtubing watching HoloJP streams I couldn't even understand, and was hoping EN would be like that--and besides early Gura it kind of has gone away. But this is the real pure shit. I hope they just keep going.
Been finding the strange limitations and cadences Hololive seems to have, logistically makes pretty damn good sense. For instance new generations aren't immediately included in 3D content and things like Holofes. We can see the benefits right now as a lot of EN are over in JP preparing for something and just aren't streaming as much. But the Kouhais are streaming strong, keeping the fresh content flowing and supporting their Senpais when those larger projects get released. Then when the newbies have their fan bases established, they'll be ready for 3d and those larger projects... And in comes the next batch of kouhais.
I remember quite a few comments from their debut stream that people were amazed that they hadn't broken character. I remember thinking, isn't that how it should be?
I feel that I understand now how a vtuber should stand out when there's a purpose of having a vtuber model in the first place. If you are putting effort of adding story and lore into your vtuber model for your debut, viewers may expect that vtuber to stay in-character in some degree. Others who just want to have a vtuber model just for fun, that's okay. This only applies to content creators who want to be in the spotlight that requires putting effort of using that model which includes roleplay. Like, the person behind the model can still be themselves, but if they know how to twist their storytelling between irl and lore of the character they play as, then I think they have a chance to attract people and go big later on. Advent girls especially Shiori and Fuwamoco imo, are able to roleplay very well with their audience because they go out of their ways to twist their storytelling and interaction with fans to be worthwhile and entertaining. That's why I enjoy watching their content more than other vtubers.
Real talk: it really depends on how long they can keep up their characters. Even professional actors don't keep characters for as long as vtubers do. Its understandable that they would want to stop doing their characters or change their characters to be closer to their actual personalities, because its easier and less stressful. Its actually amazing that some vtubers have kept their characters up so far.
Yup, I think it's probably a bad idea for the long term, if I remember correctly, that's something that happened to Haachama where she was stressed about playing her character's role and just decided to just be herself most of the time. In my opinion acting a role may only work in VTubing, if the role isn't too different from the person playing's personality. And I don't think he knows how stressful that is, especially if you're a big VTuber, it's not a single acting role, it's live action and a lot of unpredictable things happen live(Namely Chat), I don't think it's worth the stress, I wouldn't recommend.
They're very good at doing this. Among the very best in the industry, I'd say. Their real life personality is folded into their characters to a fair extent. It means they don't have to work as hard to stay in character. They also spent a long time training before their debut so that being in character is as natural as possible. All their work time is spent in character too, so it remains second nature to them. They don't run any other channels or ventures simultaneously either. No distractions allowed and maximum discipline. True professionals.
@billybased64 Maybe it's not like FUWAMOCO who seem to lean more into playing characters. But more like how some sitcoms do it, as in, Dizzy plays an exaggerated version of her real self, with added bits of insanity and whatnot to further spice things up
Normally I think you’re going a bit overboard when you say stuff like “blank is the Jesus of Vtubers” but considering how close I was to just quitting vtubers altogether I say you hit the nail right on the head this time.
It's still overboard. There will always be someone better. In the near future. Because there is no Jesus of Vtubers, there is always one age after another.
@@BeyondDaX -Twins -Seiso -Roleplay -Passion Who knows how long it will take to find new girls that meet those criterias? I doubt we’ll ever get the same combination
Fuwamoco is like a monsoon coming to the HoloEN, I keep wondering why they’re so unique and I realized I have forgot about the Idol/Roleplaying aspect of it
3-5months I stop watching vtubers. but when Gen3 arrived I got my passion back to watch vtubers mostly the Twin Doggos. I Love Them so much every day I watch them im always smiling. BAU BAU
This is real Vtuber experience, roleplay Vtubers are the best experience. The line between streamers and Vtubers had slowly faded over the last two years and it seems these two have made it have a comeback.
How well they stay in character: 1st Fuwamoco- Bau Bau forever 2nd Shiori- Still a bookworm 3rd Bijou- Shown to be a gremlin 4th Narrissa- She lost the facade right away and is a Masochist
I have nothing against Bijou or Narrissa but they have already shown themselves to be different from their characters already. Shiori is hard to pinpoint but she does the Name Archiver or Bookworm justice. As for Fuwamoco they are 100% in character every stream. Bau Bau every day.
I think if a lot of people did it it would get old fast I like talents that are themselves.I think it's also good to have rare talents like fuwamoco and Luna but not many
SHIORI SUPREMACY!!!! But i get what you mean. Advent as a whole is such a breath of fresh air. Everyone has kind of comfotably settled into their niche and habbits. It has felt really slow for the last 3/4 of a year. Everyone started to get complacent and streamed less and less. I think a lot of holomems now feel motivated by advent. They really were needed.
Literally been fiending for someone to do short form morning type things ever since neena makurano’s “podcast” type streams (RIP ❤). The demon dogs are breathing life into what was going stale, bau bau yall.
I think fuwamoco might be the only hololive en Advent members who do end up keeping in character because they are professionals. I don't know about the rest of hololive Advent though. The rest of hololive en gave up on staying in character a while ago. I could be wrong, but I hope that I won't be.
@@edenromanovmore like in character they are in streamer mode, most streamers have that a personality that only use when they are streaming but it doesn't mean necessary a character
Why is he speaking the truth? I have forgotten these golden days he speaks of. FuwaMoco is bringing back something I forgot was the norm (kayfabe). I come back to watch their streams that got me into early quarantine 2020 Hololive.
100% agreed with what you said in the stream about also coming off there stream to type this. When we first say them in the trailer I thought the only 2 people who could play the 2 dogs are gogo nippon(also for anyone say your exposing there past like bro you had rev and false already say they were gogo nippon I'm the past) with gogo nippon you can tell they love vtubing and capture what a vtuber is supposed to be. Yes for some people they can be cringe and there content is not for you but imo there cringe in a good way in there completely playing there dog twins to the tea for an example when they was asked a question saying that is english not your native language and are you Japanese the twins say no are first language is dog language than English and Japanese. Even though we can clearly tell there Japanese they are so into character they say dog language. Like the twins brought back the excitement back into me in vtubers even though yeah I love myth and council and selen but the twins brought something back like I've been smiling for a whole week. Like bro they want to protect are smiles and I baubau with pride I can't wait for memberships to drop for them and also can not wait for there 3D debut one day. Also perfect way to explain the twins combine korone and koyori together and split them in two you get the twins. Also yet again yagoo is proving why he's the goat or God of ceo like bro he took a chance on calli who was just an underground rapper with no streaming experience and Kiara who was let go of being a idol and had it tuff before joining hololive and the twins who was dropped by there previous agency and yagoo still took a chance for them and still have them share channels. Of course yagoo made mistakes and will mistakes in the future but yagoo and cover management have my full support unlike nijisanji because hololive learn from there mistakes. Also sorry if I miss spell anything.
TOTALLY TRUE!!!!!!11!!1 I MISS VTUBERS ROLEPLAYING SO MUCH😭😭i noticed that the vtuber thing has gotten pretty boring these times, and not just because it's saturated, but some other reason i could not figure out... Watching this, i realize that's the other reason, i totally agree with you. We need more hard roleplay in vtuber community.
While I don't mind either way if they drop their character as long as they are entertaining, being in character does adds to the stream and can be kinda fun. Love how they are committing to being cute doggos BAU BAU. They are doing amazing at that and the pair complements each other extremely well and are my favourite of Advent, though from what I've seen, the entire Advent is crazy strong as well. Mococo so far is my favourite of the pair, but honestly, they need to be together to create these amazing streams.
fuawa:us baby us moco:yeah we love you biboo:you know you want us nerissa:come for us baby shoiri:you know you cant escape us we will forver rule internete
Hololivers that are consistent with their characters are the following: Marine, Pekora, Luna, Kronii, Mumei, FuwaMoco, Bijou, Sora, Watame, Korone, Okayu(also how hype will a OkaKoro FuwaMoco collab be?!?), Risu(sort of), Polka, Koyori(surprisingly does her best to maintain kayfabe as difficult as it is with how Pon she is) and that's about it imo
Surely more than that if you're going to include Pekora and OkaKoro. Pekora breaks character for comedic effect and I'm not sure what OkaKoro lore there is aside from the stuff they often ignore (love them all though)
The initial appeal of the concept of Vtuber is that seeing an anime/manga character alive as if they exist in real life (albeit virtually on the internet).
That was my first thought when I watched them. They're relighting the candle.
My next hope is to see an actual traditional vtuber back. Doing RUclipsr things but as an anime character.
Hopefully one day that will include the Grandmother of Vtubing herself returning to us with fresh energy!
For real Fuwamoco is what several fans wanted since myth: Hololive JP in English
They are English people based many years on Japan, with past japanese vtubers. Debut again as a jp like vtubers for English people Lmao.
Yup, I even initially thought they were JP natives. Not only from their fluent language, but from the way they structure and do streaming as a whole. Well, given their background, the influence is clear.
100%
Don’t they still live in Canada?
@@kabob21 he meant the mannerism of JP talent, but in english branch
From their debuts I got the vibe that Fuwamoco and Bijou were interested in being vtubers from days past. Fuwamoco handled their models well and connected with that aspect of it, it's not just an avatar, it's important. I haven't had much time to check out much of their streams to confirm though. I don't really need extensive roleplaying, but it's nice to see when vtubers incorporate part of their design into themselves so that while we see the streamer's personality the model doesn't become irrelevant. Some models definitely have less to work with though.
@user-ts2ir4hc5r Yeah, the demon hound part though...
Fuwawa has more control over her model than anyone currently in Hololive save a couple members. That’s kinda why they’re amongst my favorites now. It’s a slept upon thing that frustrates me that most VTubers are perpetually in happy mode when doing or playing anything. Some exceptions are Baelz, Calli, Pekora, and Miko I’d say.
Oh Fuwamoco definitely are familiar with VTubing if you've discovered their past lives...
I don't think anyone in advent is new to vtubing. Hell, Shiori was probably the first English VTuber proper. (OtakuMoe)
I love Korone a lot, her overwhelming positivity never fails to brighten my day, one of my favourite Holomems, and FuwaMoco are perfect, because they're basically English speaking Korones, and knowing about their past just makes it all the more enjoyable to watch them stream
Samething for me korone the first vtuber I saw and the vtuber that brought me into this rabbit hole and still I'd my favorite vtuber tell this day. The twins to me imo are jp vtubers but in en because like hololive jp they are in full character. Also I really want the twins and korone collab because that will be so wholesome and cute moments.
GAWR GURA said she's been feeling inspired by FuwaMoco! That she wants to do more wholesome in character Idol stuff in her streams!
FuwaMoco are a breath of fresh air, and blur the line between being in character and just having fun. Very bright future for these doggos and Hololive
BAU BAU🐾
It's great that the new blood has inspired the senpai, I hope the positive energy stays strong, but let's also be careful not to compare the girls too much either
Good. I got the same feeling during Fuwamoco's debut as I did when Gura sang Ride On Time in hers. That feeling that no matter how shit things are, I have something to look forward to. I haven't wanted to watch every stream from a single channel in a long time, but here we are.
Anything to get Gura streams more is good
THE Gawr Gura is getting inspired by them!!! 💙
Wholesome?..
if you're having troubles identifying which voice is fuwawa and which voice is mococo:
fuwawa's voice is more fluffy, mococo's voice is more fuzzy
Literally
xD
I don't know how to differentiate which
@@Zawzeu but I just told you how...
The one with blue bits in long blonde hair is Fuwawa while the one with pink bits in short blonde hair is Mococo.
Like a certain guy once said *"Vtubers are like wrestlers"*
We all know they're just playing characters, it might be fake but it's so entertaining to watch. So who cares? I love them all!
They could easily be compared to one of the three most famous tag team stables of all time since their unforgettable 3 way rivalry during the attitude era
The Hardy Boyz Matt and Jeff, the Dudley Boyz Buh Buh Ray and D'Von, then Edge and Christian
Their reactions during horror streams doesn't seem fake.
It's what I enjoy the most 😎
A lot of people have made the wrestling comparison.
I'm still waiting on the attitude era of vtubing, just chaos everywhere
Why does that statement feel like a "trash taste" take ;)
100% true. I've noticed that most vtubers will start out with the character but drop it quickly in favor of just being themselves. I can even see it in gura who was pretty different at the start.
Fuwamoco is the best for bringing it all back.
That's because he sometimes takes his drinks when streaming and goes out of character.
Well, if you had to act as a completely different person for 10-15+ hours a week It would be hard to keep it up for any longer than a month without stuff slipping through while telling stories, making jokes, talking to coworkers, things like that without breaking character
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@@autisticmoneybtw, you can roleplay someone is more close to your personality but still distinct from your true self. It can be done, that's literally how humans in general act with people from different social groups.
That's literally how I am with my church peeps, my choir peeps, my drinking peeps, my college peeps, my nerd peeps, my sports peeps, etc. There are some inside jokes that are heresy to say in another group, and behaviors that only appear when you surround yourself with certain types of people.
Of course, there will be people who can't really do those things, no one is forcing them to. That said, there are some who are great at shifting behaviors and characters to fit the current situation(hence why we have actors, actresses).
I fully agree. they are a breath of fresh air. they immediately set themselves apart. I am so glad that Yagoo and Cover took their time to find the diamonds that are ADVENT
That's why yagoo the goat how many big agency's will take a chance on calli who was just an underground rapper with no streaming experience and Kiara who's been let go of being an idol in the past and don't have a unique talent and now fuwamoco who was let go of there previous agency because they didn't put out enough money for the agency and them also being a 2 for 1 because business it makes sense to spite them up and have both them have there own channels.
@@kinglightning5256lil bro u better glue those cheeks😭🙏 bf i go demon mode😈😈😈🥵🥵🥵those cheeks gon be loose after im done w u lil bro🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯
For me the peak of vtuber role-playing was Marine's 78-year-old stream - she not only stayed in character and held a voice for a whole hour, she basically provided an epilogue for a few Hololive stories, which basically never advance past each talents debut, Haachama eing the exception in that she built and acted on something new essentially from scratch. Not sure if the twins measure up to that, but hood on them for trying.
Yeah I’m starting to think that this dude has finally found his own new favorite oshi
that's what ive been thinking
It's Shiori.
Seriously, my man's is down atrocious for Shiori.
*OUR oshi*
@@MildlyOCDrightly so
No lie Gen 3 made me interested in vtubers again. They’re a refreshing bunch. Would support the twin doggos the most because they really deserve to be there.
Filling in a shrinking niche: Entertainers with improv acting
Basically this. It's basically how PewDiePie does his caricature of a person back in the Amnesia days.
"FuwaMoco brain washed us."
*Yes.*
*Baubau,* ruffians. *Baubau!*
BAU BAU
BAU BAU
They will protect are smiles
BAU BAU
BAU BAU!
BAU BAU
Pekora, laplus, korone, fubuki are big on roleplay and they are pretty big among hololive too. Myth used to do it(and I think it is 1 of the factor make them pop up so much)
Ame is the only one who currently takes advantage of her character with the Time traveler shenanigans, but the others are just themselves with a vtuber model at this point lol
Gura kinda worked with the character back when reflect was released and she created the red gura model, but thats it.
You forgot Fauna on the List, that girl is embracing her mother nature character
Luna
@@Kiriemydefinitely why Fauna is very consistent in my watch time in YT. She knows her character well and goes with it naturally. This is why I naturally go to Fuwamoco for the same thing.
But nowadays, bookish nerds like Shiori that play piano where I'm at in the meantime.
Fuwamoco have been nothing but adorable doggos. They've quickly become one of my favorites to watch. Especially since this is the first time hololive has done 2 talents with 1 channel. Plus, knowing their backstory, which hits like a truck. Makes them even more incredible as talents.
This is what I tried to defend 2 years ago: when people (including some vtubers) start to make fun of vtubers with roleplaying, like you said, that's the thing that makes vtubers different than normal streamers.
The thing is that in the west a lot of people think that vtubers are basically a streamer with an avatar when originally there were like anime character streaming not just a streamer hiding behind an avatar
yeah that notion is one of the many factors in the ongoing decline of vtubing in the West. many of them forget what made vtubing popular in the first place
Dude their general overall fluffiness is just so damn good for my heart. College is just right around the corner, I cant wait to be watching FuwaMoco while riding the train back home from school.
I agree, just that in my case, I'm a 3rd year college student, thus I'm about to face one hell of a year.
Woe is thee, a man of panik 😅
Like bro I'm a proud ruffian and I be baubau with pride I can't wait for them to be 3D one day
Emergency kit: Fuwamoco
Fluffy and Fuzzy!
They're cute and wholesome, that's all I care about. Mococo's "un un" melts me
Them & korone is the collab we're waiting on
Koyori also
HoloK9
Holo K9 needs a couple of more Doggos to be true to it's name, but I'm most hyped for a FuwaMoco OkaKoro Collab! The amount of diabetes induced cuteness might be too much for the viewers to handle!
im obviously from the future, but Gigi Murin managed to commit not only to her character but also for the bit during 8 HOURS
100% agree. Fuwawa and Mococo are immersed in their characters, and I love it so much. The Hololive standard is that the character is a thin sheet over the top of the talent just being themselves. While they're all wonderful and charming that way, the commitment makes the pure sweetness of FuwaMoco just that much better.
Hololive standard? That's the industry standard right now.
I'm a 33yo man who thought he had no more feelings left inside.
I fkn cried my heart out during their karaoke.
They rekindled my enthusiasm for hololive. Feels like 2020 again to me.
Biboo too btw.
Sometimes you need a refreshment.
Reminders for why we're here, for what we care about and why
TINK TINK
u have to have autism Cause theres no way a 33 yr old grown man is watching some other grown men act like babies on an ipad
Grow up
you need to socialise and go outside instead actually
@@Sonic_Frontiers thats what im saying losers
I said this in the live chat already, but we needed people who were able to REALLY play a character. I can appreciate the voice actor aspect, but we need more people willing to go all in on playing the part rather than just using it as set dressing
I feel like this going to big thing for hololive en to look for in the future in future gens. Vtubers playing character in hololive jp has always been a thing but thanks to the twins big success and them highly likely going to be the biggest advent members they will look for people who can play character. One person who can play character for hololive en each gen
@@kinglightning5256 I hope so. The basics of real life acting mixed with the technology COVER has could prove revolutionary if they get the right talents to innovate
I think this is what's putting Marine on the rise as well (she has surpassed Pekora by a pretty decent margin as the most popular JP member, subscriber-wise at least).
Even after several years of Vtubing, she is still pretty dedicated to playing the horny pirate and pretend 17 year old shtick (like, all her original songs are based on those concepts), and people love her for it.
@@jack9005417 years 4th season
I'm not against it but I'm just worried about those parasocial fans that might think they aren't real people and just anime characters that can be treated as objects. That's the danger of putting up that illusion. It's not like it doesn't happen even if they're not acting but the chances are much higher if they do. It's why a lot of vtubers stopped their roleplaying because it has some benefits and advantages and it can help them avoid those kinds of problems in the future.
EDIT: Also it's difficult to the point that it's pointless to keep playing character because the illusion can get ruined just from technical issues, lack of preparation, sudden stream transitions, etc. A lot of people can notice it, become aware and eventually get tired of them still trying to keep up an act.
I don't share any similar interests with Fuwamoco, I don't get excited over their game selections, I don't even know what they're saying half the time, but I've watched more of their content than I have any RUclipsr in a long while. They cast a spell on me with the doggo roleplay, twins dynamic, and cute anime girl noises 😵💫
Hahahaha, I can relate so much. Most of the games they play aren't even my taste and yet I stayed because of the twin doggo character they're playing. Just the character themselves is entertaining to me, and I don't really mind whatever content they are doing in the stream.
Man finally i found comment that is relatable to me, and to be honest fuwamoco is the 1st vtubers i consistently become member because i love spamming bau bau
This guy was legit preaching to me about these two girls and calling them Jesus 😂😂
While ive never been a fan of the hard kayfabe and just found it distracting cringe most of the time, FuwaMoco are damn amazing at it. (Been here since Coco debut, fight me)
Even Bijou said "wow its like you two are actually real dogs".
DN nailed it towards the end with "no politics, make me forget the world's problems for a bit". Hololive has been so incredibly good at training their talent on how to avoid politics so thouroughly it feels like im in 2006 again where the most political thing was debating which next gen console ro buy.
Hell ive seen EN girls offhandedly say word for word what is normally considered a political statement and not 1 comment pointed it out. Its like everyone there just forgets about politics during the stream and context matters again!
I found it extra hilarious when she got "Shhhh'ed" after she said that.
Watching Fuwamoco reminds me of a maid cafe visit. It's cute, it's sweet and they're 100% in character.
Especially since their past dilemmas went to crap, they actually revolutionized this. I'd go on to say that Shiroi also adds more variety in what she does than just singing, chatting, and video games. Never once ran into a Vtuber that would talk so much about books and stuff that'd remind you of your schooldays, but you are somehow interested in it this time. Bijou and Nerissa just set the new bar on their own sizes and personalities. They really are the Advent of Hololive.
Shiori is my 2nd fav. I love her nerdy book tangents!
Bijou is a very funny vtuber very old school Gamer and her conversations are very motivating tes it is as if you were talking to your older sister. 😊
Shiori is definitely a unique specimen, why I was naturally drawn to her once she started nerding out on books, then doing a parasite microscope stream.
I do educational content streams like these.
The whole point of vtubing to me is believing anime is real. I don't want to know about the girls behind the avatar, they're not real, they don't exist, because the character IS REAL. That's why I first fell in love with Kizuna Ai, she NEVER broke character and she was always an "AI" and never talked about growing up as a real person. And its why I fell in love with GGNL too, because the girls there were 100% their characters and never broke character either, it was like the visual novel was taking place in our real world and the characters were real. Fuwamoco gets it. And for people like me who stopped following Vtubers after Kizuna's hiatus because none of the modern Vtubers felt virtual anymore, Fuwamoco is both a breath of fresh air and a return to the golden age.
preach it my friend
I do vtubing myself, and I agree with you. Playing a role is fun. I like getting into character. Having said that... the character I play is me. I am the character. Sure, maybe I'm not a magic slug in real life, but I love being a magic slug when I am the magic slug. I'm still getting used to performing as the magic slug, but honestly, I think this video has motivated me to try and be more cringe.
Embrace the cringe, embrace the character.
I think of it similar to how actors in movies does their thing. Best example is Johnny Depp's Jack Sparrow.
Before the Twins, i barely watched streams of any vtuber and suddently when FuwaMoco debuted, a spark shined in me, Fuwawa and Mococo are extreme fun.
I love how you say "Anime girls pretending to be dogs" as if Anime girls and boys are real. They're not, but we understand what you mean. And unlike other "reincarnations" like Henya and Nazuna who are basically the same characters as their previous lives, Fuwamoco are not just Japanese Tour Guides Again. It's not like there's no overlap in their appeal, but they are very different characters.
They're an example to all VTubers to take "reincarnation" as an opportunity to try something different.
Yeah pretty much, they are so in tune with the character theme and lore. Which makes the kayfabe strong.
FuwaMoco is like how Johnny Depp create Captain Jack Sparrow by inserting part of himself into the character to make it came to life. That makes their character feel alive instead of just a costume for streamers.
PREACH IT MY GUY!!!
Honestly knowing their past lives, they were everywhere together and actually look like sisters. I don't think it's as much roleplay as much as it is organic. It was their personal Twitter. It's always been like that for them, lol
They're the best twin entertainers of Advent/Hololive.
'Cause they killed us with their cuteness.
Bau bau!
I will NEVER let my guard down on FUWAMOCO. They can try to brainwash me with all their RP cuteness and yeah is admittedly hurts my being saying all this cause I do like them and they're an absolute jo..AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!BUTKORONEWILLALWAYSBEMYKAMIOSHI!!!!!
Well, Koone and FuwaMoco are doggies, so, what's the problem? They are my 3 oshies now... HoloCerberus
We lost him…
stop resisting.. just let the BAU BAU in..
dont resist the bau bau energy. be a ruffian, my guy.
honestly i am okay with both types. i think there are those who can and should do roleplay, specifically the ones with interesting concepts, but i also think there is a place for the faceless content creator who uses an anime character to represent themselves.
No problem with that. Fuwamoco was the main focus because of how niche the first vtuber concepts became nowadays; like playing the actual character like how actors in movies do.
Still fine doing the latter(it's actually the most prominent vtuber setup so that's something), just hoping we get more of the former one(the dedicated kayfabe).
It's been a breath of fresh air man....
Another thing is Shiori which probably has the tightest freaking community where even her pre-chat has its own jokes and sends SCs even when it isn't live. She interacts with her community such as fanworks a lot and I haven't see anyone interact with her fans as much as she does
Shiori is very interactive, which is why I grew fond of her and the community she cultivated like a new garden.
too many normies got into vtubing
exactly
Its when things go mainstream in the west that everything becomes worse. Mainstream media ruins everything. Always has and always will.
normies 🤖
Their wholesomeness is addictive to watch. They make me happy with everything they do.
this is what vtubing is all about, being cute anime girls/boys/doggos/whatever doing cute anime things. it's not always being horni and showing off your real bod just for thirst traps (looking at most indie vtubers nowadays). anyways, so nice to have things like this brought back to the table and hololive just never missed the spot
I've been listening to FuwaMoco noises all week non stop, even though they aren't even my faves from the gen. Bau Bau
HoloEN Myth is basically the Attitude Era.
FuwaMcoco is if somehow the Golden Era WWF Revived unimpeded.
This is accurate. I've wanted this for so long. I go into vtubing watching HoloJP streams I couldn't even understand, and was hoping EN would be like that--and besides early Gura it kind of has gone away. But this is the real pure shit. I hope they just keep going.
Time always changes
@@BeyondDaX time doesn't change. People do. But usually only in ever narrowing spirals
All of advent seem to role play their role pretty good but we will see how long that lasts
Been finding the strange limitations and cadences Hololive seems to have, logistically makes pretty damn good sense.
For instance new generations aren't immediately included in 3D content and things like Holofes.
We can see the benefits right now as a lot of EN are over in JP preparing for something and just aren't streaming as much.
But the Kouhais are streaming strong, keeping the fresh content flowing and supporting their Senpais when those larger projects get released. Then when the newbies have their fan bases established, they'll be ready for 3d and those larger projects... And in comes the next batch of kouhais.
Quality over quantity, also giving the Kouhais their early lion's share of attention before resuming to normal operations.
I DO NOT DOUBT YAGOO
This channel bout to be renamed to "Excited Ruffian"
I remember quite a few comments from their debut stream that people were amazed that they hadn't broken character. I remember thinking, isn't that how it should be?
FuwaMoco saved us from the sins of Nijisanji 🙏
the sex appel nijisanji is pushing is over. its time to actually have fun with streams
As a newer watcher I can appreciate your point of view. Sometimes the rp is more fun than the other parts
I feel that I understand now how a vtuber should stand out when there's a purpose of having a vtuber model in the first place. If you are putting effort of adding story and lore into your vtuber model for your debut, viewers may expect that vtuber to stay in-character in some degree. Others who just want to have a vtuber model just for fun, that's okay. This only applies to content creators who want to be in the spotlight that requires putting effort of using that model which includes roleplay.
Like, the person behind the model can still be themselves, but if they know how to twist their storytelling between irl and lore of the character they play as, then I think they have a chance to attract people and go big later on.
Advent girls especially Shiori and Fuwamoco imo, are able to roleplay very well with their audience because they go out of their ways to twist their storytelling and interaction with fans to be worthwhile and entertaining.
That's why I enjoy watching their content more than other vtubers.
Real talk: it really depends on how long they can keep up their characters. Even professional actors don't keep characters for as long as vtubers do.
Its understandable that they would want to stop doing their characters or change their characters to be closer to their actual personalities, because its easier and less stressful.
Its actually amazing that some vtubers have kept their characters up so far.
Like DN said, you can roleplay and be yourself at the same time
@@abcron3788straight up oxymoron 😂
Yup, I think it's probably a bad idea for the long term, if I remember correctly, that's something that happened to Haachama where she was stressed about playing her character's role and just decided to just be herself most of the time. In my opinion acting a role may only work in VTubing, if the role isn't too different from the person playing's personality. And I don't think he knows how stressful that is, especially if you're a big VTuber, it's not a single acting role, it's live action and a lot of unpredictable things happen live(Namely Chat), I don't think it's worth the stress, I wouldn't recommend.
@@abcron3788 No, I don't believe that's possible.
They're very good at doing this. Among the very best in the industry, I'd say. Their real life personality is folded into their characters to a fair extent. It means they don't have to work as hard to stay in character.
They also spent a long time training before their debut so that being in character is as natural as possible. All their work time is spent in character too, so it remains second nature to them. They don't run any other channels or ventures simultaneously either.
No distractions allowed and maximum discipline. True professionals.
We needed some more cuteness in our lives.
Two videos from one stream. Last night stream turned out to be a bountiful one.
I think Dizzy is also into the character acting
Really? She feels too authentic for some reason lol
@billybased64 Maybe it's not like FUWAMOCO who seem to lean more into playing characters. But more like how some sitcoms do it, as in, Dizzy plays an exaggerated version of her real self, with added bits of insanity and whatnot to further spice things up
Fuwamoco are a cure like ayame so cute
The vtuber thing stopped after English vtuber is acting like be yourself fck this vtuber characteristics.
But now fuwamoco is exception.
Normally I think you’re going a bit overboard when you say stuff like “blank is the Jesus of Vtubers” but considering how close I was to just quitting vtubers altogether I say you hit the nail right on the head this time.
How intentional is hitting the nail on the head? Got me a chuckle
It's still overboard. There will always be someone better. In the near future. Because there is no Jesus of Vtubers, there is always one age after another.
@@BeyondDaX -Twins
-Seiso
-Roleplay
-Passion
Who knows how long it will take to find new girls that meet those criterias? I doubt we’ll ever get the same combination
Fuwamoco is like a monsoon coming to the HoloEN, I keep wondering why they’re so unique and I realized I have forgot about the Idol/Roleplaying aspect of it
not seeing enough hate in this comment section
Onb🙏
No-one roleplays? Are you forgetting Luna?
in EN vtubing
3-5months I stop watching vtubers. but when Gen3 arrived I got my passion back to watch vtubers mostly the Twin Doggos. I Love Them so much every day I watch them im always smiling. BAU BAU
This is real Vtuber experience, roleplay Vtubers are the best experience. The line between streamers and Vtubers had slowly faded over the last two years and it seems these two have made it have a comeback.
you got on a Steven Lin video bro
@@haydeniscool7949bruh what?
This is what chronic gooning does guys!
Fuwawa Abyssgard soft spoken and domineering, Mococo silent pro gamer and quite energetic
P.S. BAU BAU, GanBAUtte ne!
BAU BAU!! 🐾
Vtubing is everytime closer and closer to wrestling
Well there people that like member to keep the kayfabe after debut and those who want them natural. I just hope they having fun and happy
Advent has been staying in character pretty well. Fuwamoco is at the top in that way.
How well they stay in character:
1st Fuwamoco- Bau Bau forever
2nd Shiori- Still a bookworm
3rd Bijou- Shown to be a gremlin
4th Narrissa- She lost the facade right away and is a Masochist
I have nothing against Bijou or Narrissa but they have already shown themselves to be different from their characters already. Shiori is hard to pinpoint but she does the Name Archiver or Bookworm justice. As for Fuwamoco they are 100% in character every stream. Bau Bau every day.
I think if a lot of people did it it would get old fast I like talents that are themselves.I think it's also good to have rare talents like fuwamoco and Luna but not many
After all the Vtuber graduations this 2023, this was a meteorite out of nowhere. ✌️🙏🙏🙏🙏
Man be spittin' facts.
SHIORI SUPREMACY!!!! But i get what you mean. Advent as a whole is such a breath of fresh air. Everyone has kind of comfotably settled into their niche and habbits. It has felt really slow for the last 3/4 of a year. Everyone started to get complacent and streamed less and less. I think a lot of holomems now feel motivated by advent. They really were needed.
They play their role really well because I can't imagine them outside of the stream. It don't even feel like they playing a character
Yeah sure, yes! Now we're talking. That's one of the reasons that I love them so much❤
Literally been fiending for someone to do short form morning type things ever since neena makurano’s “podcast” type streams (RIP ❤). The demon dogs are breathing life into what was going stale, bau bau yall.
Anybody who calls FuwaMoco cringe have no idea what vtubing is. IRONIC WEEBS OUT. FUWAMOCO ARE BASED. BAU BAU
Fuwahomo is cringe and don’t ever say “ironic weebs out!🤓☝️” again lil bro
You got to be joking🙁
I like Mococo cuz her birthday is the day before mine which is pretty cool. Can't wait for Cerberus Doggo collab too.
I think fuwamoco might be the only hololive en Advent members who do end up keeping in character because they are professionals. I don't know about the rest of hololive Advent though. The rest of hololive en gave up on staying in character a while ago. I could be wrong, but I hope that I won't be.
Nah Kronii and Mumei regularly stay in character, Goob goes in and out so does Calli and Kiwawa. As for ID I think it's only Risu really.
@@edenromanovmore like in character they are in streamer mode, most streamers have that a personality that only use when they are streaming but it doesn't mean necessary a character
Shiori doesn't really have a character, she just seems to have gotten a persona that's basically her
Fuwacoco being compared to Jesus made me roll on the floor laughing
nousagi try not to deek suck yagoo challenge: impossible
Luna still rarely breaks. The popularity is just not that there though.
Why is he speaking the truth? I have forgotten these golden days he speaks of. FuwaMoco is bringing back something I forgot was the norm (kayfabe). I come back to watch their streams that got me into early quarantine 2020 Hololive.
Haven't really seen anyone say they were cringe. Maybe I just haven't come across anyone like that.
100% agreed with what you said in the stream about also coming off there stream to type this. When we first say them in the trailer I thought the only 2 people who could play the 2 dogs are gogo nippon(also for anyone say your exposing there past like bro you had rev and false already say they were gogo nippon I'm the past) with gogo nippon you can tell they love vtubing and capture what a vtuber is supposed to be. Yes for some people they can be cringe and there content is not for you but imo there cringe in a good way in there completely playing there dog twins to the tea for an example when they was asked a question saying that is english not your native language and are you Japanese the twins say no are first language is dog language than English and Japanese. Even though we can clearly tell there Japanese they are so into character they say dog language. Like the twins brought back the excitement back into me in vtubers even though yeah I love myth and council and selen but the twins brought something back like I've been smiling for a whole week. Like bro they want to protect are smiles and I baubau with pride I can't wait for memberships to drop for them and also can not wait for there 3D debut one day. Also perfect way to explain the twins combine korone and koyori together and split them in two you get the twins. Also yet again yagoo is proving why he's the goat or God of ceo like bro he took a chance on calli who was just an underground rapper with no streaming experience and Kiara who was let go of being a idol and had it tuff before joining hololive and the twins who was dropped by there previous agency and yagoo still took a chance for them and still have them share channels. Of course yagoo made mistakes and will mistakes in the future but yagoo and cover management have my full support unlike nijisanji because hololive learn from there mistakes. Also sorry if I miss spell anything.
yagoooooooo...... once again i kneellll !!
TOTALLY TRUE!!!!!!11!!1 I MISS VTUBERS ROLEPLAYING SO MUCH😭😭i noticed that the vtuber thing has gotten pretty boring these times, and not just because it's saturated, but some other reason i could not figure out... Watching this, i realize that's the other reason, i totally agree with you. We need more hard roleplay in vtuber community.
They were definitely what I’ve been wanting for quite a while. I love ‘em to death.
While I don't mind either way if they drop their character as long as they are entertaining, being in character does adds to the stream and can be kinda fun. Love how they are committing to being cute doggos BAU BAU. They are doing amazing at that and the pair complements each other extremely well and are my favourite of Advent, though from what I've seen, the entire Advent is crazy strong as well. Mococo so far is my favourite of the pair, but honestly, they need to be together to create these amazing streams.
I feel ya on this, Even Lore videos feel a little redundant these days when the vtubers don't actually stay in character?
lord never make me reach this point
Im happy now, thanks DN
Damn bro was yapping
fuawa:us baby us
moco:yeah we love you
biboo:you know you want us
nerissa:come for us baby
shoiri:you know you cant escape us we will forver rule internete
Pretty weird to see so many people struggle with differentiate Fuwawa anf Mococo's voices. I love Mococo's voice personally, it's so cute and bubbly
Fuwawa’s voice is so soft and fluffy, it’s like asmr. Idk I find it really easy to differentiate the two
Hololivers that are consistent with their characters are the following: Marine, Pekora, Luna, Kronii, Mumei, FuwaMoco, Bijou, Sora, Watame, Korone, Okayu(also how hype will a OkaKoro FuwaMoco collab be?!?), Risu(sort of), Polka, Koyori(surprisingly does her best to maintain kayfabe as difficult as it is with how Pon she is) and that's about it imo
Surely more than that if you're going to include Pekora and OkaKoro. Pekora breaks character for comedic effect and I'm not sure what OkaKoro lore there is aside from the stuff they often ignore (love them all though)
💙🐾 BAU BAU 🐾💖