Acorn to Arabella - Journey of a Wooden Boat - Episode 50: Homemade Copper Rivets!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Yep, we are making our own square shanked copper rivets for Arabella. Not only are they bigger than the biggest commercially available rivet we could find, it is also saving us thousands of dollars!
We also wanted to address some concerns people had with our other fasteners. Namely the bronze screws in the frames and the fin-head bolts we made for the backbone.
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Acorn to Arabella is a boat building project taking place in Granby, Massachusetts. Steve and Alix started as amateur boat builders building their own 38' wooden boat in their backyard: designer William Atkin's Ingrid with a Stormy Petrel's gaff rig. These videos follow the journey from tree felling, to lumber milling, to lofting, to the lead keel pour and beyond-sharing details of the woodworking, carpentry, metal smithing, tool building, and tool maintenance that wooden boats command. This ultimate DIY project will continue well past launch, when they will travel and learn to cruise aboard the boat that they've built. Just kidding about all that, this channel is about a Siberian Laika named Akiva.
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I am sixty-nine years old, an electrician by trade. I have also been a very serious wood worker all of my life. I must admit, I am envious of you guys. If I was forty years younger I would be alongside helping. You guys are living proof, if you have a dream, just do it. People have told me, "Wish I could do what you do." My answer is always the same, "Just show up, walk through the door and do it." So many people let fear stop what they are doing. Keep up the good work, the world is full of people who will say, "You can't do that, that wouldn't work." Of course there are going to be setbacks and many problems to solve, but you'll get there. I know someday you'll sail. How does an ant eat an elephant? One bite at a time. Great job!
Cliff "Just show up, walk through the door and do it." Your sixty-nine, how old is Jimmy Carter, he still helps build houses for Habitat For Humanity.
I'll give you guys a thumbs up on this video even though you spent the first half of it just screwing around. The second half, though, was simply riveting.
Yeah, he really flushed those screws down the hole, huh?
Ya this video felt like a complete wax of my time.
Boo!!!! Rofl
The truth hurts! lol
😂😂😂 Awesome. 👍
People that say the screws went in too easily have never properly pre-drilled a screw hole in hardwood
Which was ALSO Why he used the Brace and screwdriver bit, so he could FEEL the Stripping Point and STOP.
my grandfather always said "if you're counting on the screw to hold your joint together, you haven't fashioned the joint properly." The "key" in a keyed mortise and tenon is not supporting the whole strength of the joint....screws here do much the same thing, they're not really "holding the load" so much as keeping the frame ends in place....
@@timhyatt9185 Yep. My grand pap said that nails, pegs, screws. and/or glue are just there to hold the joint. The work is the fitment. "It's called Joinery not Glue-ery."
@@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078 "It's joinery, not screwery" was what I heard from my first native English mentor .... so the explanations differ slightly, the knowledge stays rocksolid 😄
i guess if you dont care about building huge splitter cracks then go at it tigth and feel it torque on them screws =)
That was a riveting episode! I admit to having a critical streak in me with some OCD when it comes to construction techniques, but I have 100% confidence that Arabella (and Tally Ho) will outlive our grandchildren!
If you have plenty of volunteers at your disposal a simple way to double the output of the rivet press would be to ask Joe to build you an identical die, then have two people churning out rivets - one die is emptied of rivets and loaded with blanks while the other is in the press
I for one appreciate your old world craftsmanship!
A pressing tale with riveting content!
Absolutely! I think they will do Fine in the Clinch. All in all, a very Gripping episode...
LOL. The poets of the day !
This made me laugh way too hard!
Agreed, but if you miss the first half of the story, you're screwed.. ;)
You nailed this comment
Good wood screwing portion, tapered bits and shanky wood screws hold the world together!!
Cool That's a lot of savings. Well done.
Again a phantastic lesson in boatbuilding..I simply love these detailed explanations. I feel like visiting a school for boatbuilders.Please save this footage well and make something of it in your lonesome days at sea later and leave it for posterity
I did marine carpentry for 15 years, the best gift anyone gave me was "Boat Building" by Howard Chapelle. But you guys are rocking another level. If you ever want to experience real fear, go to a modern boat yard working on a wooden boat on the gulf coast and look at the number of stainless fasteners used below the water line. I was undergoing a Coast Guard inspection for a charter boat when the "Coastie" walks over to look at re-plank job, he shook his head at the stainless fasteners then wrote down the make, model, year and hull number. His comment was that the vessel would never be able to charter more than six people, and never pass a Coast Guard inspection. Evidently they keep track.
You are right about stainless steel below the water line. Many have no idea. I've seen how it turns into rust just like mild steel.
People tell us all the time to use Stainless steel, people think it's a cure all. Stainless does not mean it will never corrode, it just means it will corrode less than normal steel.
Every time someone asks "how can you trust a boat you built and wouldn't it be better to buy a boat built by professionals" I have to stifle a laugh. There are awesome yards out there doing amazing work and some pretty terrible ones as well! No guessing here, I know how well she is built and if she fails I only have myself to blame =)
Stainless steel, particularly embedded SS corrodes faster than cast iron, never place SS where it is in a low oxygen atmosphere, the Nickel cannot oxidize to protect the steel. Thus the name rust less or stain less. When nickel oxidizes, the shell of oxadized nickel protects the steel. I enjoyed your video. I am retired from bronze manufacturing as well as Aluminum and Steel for the marine business. Never use brass underwater, only bronze ( no zinc) in bronze. Gunmetal bronze is best for most operations ( 88,2&10) copper Nickel and tin. Some prefere silicone bronze.
What a cool demonstration. The bolt and 2 nuts turned on a light bulb for me. Makes total sense.
Awesome to hear!!
I cannot wait to see this vessel completed and out on the water. It’s gonna be an amazing sense of accomplishment for everyone that has had a hand in building her. I love how all the RUclips engineers come up with some amazing ideas on how to get a problem solved. If you could take all these people and put them in a huge building, there would be nothing that couldn’t get accomplished. Amazing boat and even more amazing fan base!! Keep up the great work!! Have an awesome Christmas holiday and even better new year!!
I think it's awsome the way that you respond to people that question your methods, well done gentlemen. One of the things I enjoy most about this project is that it's not CAD, CAM & robots, real people doing real work by hand. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks!
Suffice to say, that explanation was concise and complete down to the fins, teeth, thread and screw on a screw.
Lol, “only have to run the machine about 1000 more times, at 5 minutes a run, not too shabby” *does the math* 83 hours. Yikes! Absolutely loving the work so far!
First, put a bit of a radius on the edge where the rivet head joins the body. Doesn’t have to be much more than breaking the edge, but it’s a stress concentration point which is bad news.
Second, lube that die! Putting wax or something in there should help increase die life and ease of getting the damn things out. At work we used a lecithin based spray and it worked wonders.
This is a terrific video to explain stuff.Thread bound is a big problem,not only building boats,and you've explained it really well.
You know,you could be a teacher,a really good one,not only do you know what you're talking about,you know how to convey it in easy to understand steps.
The floor timbers do a huge job with all their associated fasteners as you described.
Just loving watching your dream be realised,all the best to you.😊
Thanks!
I (Steve) actually have a masters degree in education and did teach for a few years. Unfortunately I found it tough to make a living and very restrictive in terms of what and how I taught. It's been fun to shake to teaching rust off so to speak and share our knowledge through RUclips and in person with volunteers and visiting school groups.
A lovely little touch would have been to have your Acorn logo on the head of each press rod so it was pressed into each rivet, i know the time and possibly the inclination to do this would not have been there, but sitting back in a comfortable chair watching this it is easy to come up with silly ideas
"the inclination to do this ... " - and it would most likely disappear when wacked by the hammer :-)
You are spot on with your fastenings and what a cool rivet press! I have driven and peened thousands of copper rivets and rather like caulking it becomes a pleasant rhythmical sound, learnt from my Father and spent quite a while holding up the dolly on the outside waiting for his quick double tap that told me it was time to move to the next rivet.
Guys, i just LOVE that UR making so many items, parts, by yourself made tools!! :)
Big fan from Poland :)
I like how the heads all come out slightly different - an indication of a human scale machine. Also two minuets of Heavy Metal guitar -- hell yeah. Ya'all earned it.
Hey Guys, I've got a few ideas on how you could improve the rivet press..
Oh, wait, you already have my ideas.. Lol..
Fantastic to see it working as intended.. and the ease with which the cap comes off now thanks to those 2 extra bolts is just beautiful..
So stoked and honoured to be a part of it..
Btw, I got back home on Tuesday night, now it's Friday, and I have already driven a further 1700ks..! what a crazy month it has been.. Merry Christmas guys, I'll send you a care package in the new year.
Cheers.
Screw the naysayers, build the boat. Not sure why this popped up on my recommended list a couple of months ago, but I look forward to every video. Great work!!
New Arabella video. Great way to end the week!
Excellent video! Excellent explanation and patience with all the "chowder heads" who do nothing but complain and nitpick! (They must be power boaters!) Keep building guys!!
Steven....your square shaped rivets were actually used by Venetian shipbuilders in 1300-1700...which is what I am studying....they work
Yes! Toilet bowl rings are the best. Finally, I've heard someone say that.
You guys are incredible, I love to watch your capacity to solve problems in order to achieve your goals that will lead you to the realisation of a dream.... that is really inspiring. Cheers!
Keep rockin' it guys... I really want to see Arabella dancing on the waters of the Atlantic!
For the Rivet-Machine:
I'd suggest you design the die a bit differently. Instead of having the Rivets sit square to the splitline of the die rotate them 45°, so they sit diagonally in the die. This would make extraction easier and incidentally also create somewhat of a point at one end (in the shape of a rounded pyramid). You could then skip the step of making the point at a belt grinder.
Bingo! This is genius! What we'd call a slip-angle or mold-release angle.
@@davidbrown8365 Thanks, now I know what they're called in english!
I was just going to post this very thing. Basically use a 90° vee cutter for the slots instead of a regular square end mill.
@@thomasbecker9676 Or a square end mill with the part held at 45°.
@@Finn-McCool not really necessary. The two curves left by the mill should create a small pyramid with two flat and two rounded surfaces.
That’s so freaking awesome! I love when I make something on my own that’s better than “commercial” stuff, and it always costs less, plus you get that feeling that I hear in your voice!
Having lived on the coast here in Maine? I have seen lobster boats older than 50 years that were put together with smaller wood screws . Pfffft! You have nothing to worry about. Yes the Arabella is over built in comparison
Excellent "screw theory" information. Very well explained.
"A critic is a product of creativity not his own."
i am just catching up to this series, so great, and am glad that this video addressed my unqualified concerns
You have to have a good amount of confidence to build something on the internet. It’s amazing the number of people that jump to critique something without a complete knowledge of the bigger picture.
You could also argue that there are people on the internet with vast amounts of experience that people would be wise to listen too. Not everyone is an armchair warrior you know!
Your gonna be sailing Arabella for years just with giving your volunteers rides !👍👍 Don’t listen to the critics sitting on their couch telling u what they are worried about, bet their couch don’t float to well lol
My only practical suggestion for speedup is to have two dies. You dont need another cap . You could be loading/unloading one as the other is being pressed.
Or three dies. Then you can have one person load a die, another on the press, and a third person unloading them.
Funny that yesterday evening I was thinking about the screws and how they seemed inadequate for what seemed to be their job. I wake up this morning and everything is explained. Bravo. I hope you reach 100K subscribers very soon!
Nice! Especially the air actuation on the press. Big time/arm saver there. One thing I will suggest, is make some kind of shield for the press operator in case something breaks under pressure, which could be slid in front while the press is in operation. Something as simple as a piece of thick lexan mounted in channels could save a nasty injury. I probably wouldn't bother if you were only making a few rivets, but at 1000+ operations the law of large numbers may start to catch up with you, and you could see what would otherwise be a low probability event occur.
I had the same thought. All they need is a piece of OSB or some other scrap plywood between them and the action.
Otherwise it looks awesome and like it should get the job done!
It's over engineered and copper is really soft. No one is going to get hurt!
Ronald Hayek Famous last words. It never hurts to be safe.
@@ronusa1976 famous last words. Over in the UK we are all getting bombarded with, "you can't do that it health and safety).
Excellent demonstration.
If you put a tapered shape in the bottom of the die you wouldn't have to grind the point after
Awesome video explaining why wood screws have a smooth shaft immediately below the head.
One detail missing was the difference between a wood screw thread and a metal bolt thread. As you know the difference is in the shaft inside the helical thread. In a wood screw the centre is tapered, in a metal bolt the centre is parallel. So the metal bolt draws together the nut and the bolt head. The wood screw engages progressively more with adjacent timber as the head is rotated. This is the best video explaining wood screws I have seen though.
Concerning the rivet making process. I would suggest using an impact wrench to speed up the tighting and loosing of the mold process.
The truth is, your only making 4,000 rivets and not millions. By the time somebody comes up with a mass producing machine you probably will be finished making all the rivets you need.
Awesome, mixture of Yankee ingenuity, perseverance, research and determination. Wish you only success on this build of a lifetime.
Don’t know if this would work. Drill small holes up thru bottom of jig say 1/16 or 1/8 then make extraction tool with same spacing as rivet maker with steel rods. Then all you would have to do is loosen the bolts not have to take them all the way off. When you lay your mold on its side slide extraction tool in bottom and tap the rivets up pull the out place in new blanks tighten and repeat
This. Should cut batch time in half.
@@mattfff316 This would only work well (I think) if the tool was remade so the rivet stock was turned 45 degrees about its long axis, as others have suggested. This way, as soon as the bolts were slightly loosened, the stock would no longer be jammed
LOL! I love the challenge to qualify our critique by building our own rivet machine before commenting! If only more RUclips channels required this of their viewers we'd probably have a lot less arm chair quarter backs and a lot more people getting out there to build their own dreams.
The rivets look very well formed but you might want to consider annealing the heads first. You might have micro-fractures in the head which can really reduce the strength. Nice work though!!
But people hand peen rivets on lapstrake boats all the time.
I guess those boats don't usually have 8000 pound keels.
My point: Are fractured copper rivets really a big problem on boats?
It's a very pure form of copper and since we are not upsetting the heads a crazy amount they should be totally fine.
Tinkers get it done! Excellent!
Contact that rivet manufacturer and sell them the now largest rivet on the market!
Not necessarily the case here, but if something is not commercially available it's because there is limited need and most companies like to have the profit. No free labor
hi ,,, one of truths I've learned is, in doing things for your self , a person can pick up soo much skills along the journey ,,,, and that is so cool …..
Can make rivets and two small pieces of wood and sell them so we have a part of the boat... Like others said it be a cool talking piece to place on desk ..
You're 100% correct about setting the scew in a hole sized so only the threads cut. Tapering the hole and counter sinking the head are enhancements.
Only concern I see with the rivet machine is it’s home made. I make just about every odd ball tool I use, and that’s the key word, I use. Tossing a volunteer on that thing is a bad idea. If something hangs up, or a weld fails, someone could get hurt. If your willing to take that risk, as I do with much of the dumb crap I cobble together, then all good, but it may not be a good idea to have someone unassuming take that risk.
With that said, I’m loving the build. If I had vacation I’d be out in a second to help. Good work guys.
It's fine, with that type of design few things can happen so long they exercise caution and don't stick bits where they're not supposed to. Trust me, i've seen some fabricobbles that would boggle the mind of any self taught shop/worker etc.
I would not have a problem working this press. Just about everything is over engineered in strength. Copper is really soft. It's really safe!
Not all people are idiots. Anybody with a hint of mechanical could operate that press. I don't worry so much about getting hurt, if I did, I would never get anything accomplished !
I’m not calling it unsafe, and I also wouldn’t have an issue jumping right on. It’s very stout. I was just saying, I build tools the same way, including working on a forge press. The reality is, when you buy equipment like this, liabilities shift to the manufacturer, when you build it yourself, it’s all on you. I’d hate to see someone get hurt, but even more so, I’d hate to see what some ass hat would do to these guys if they did get hurt. Not all people are honest. I’m sure it will turn out 4000 rivets without issue.
Safety first when volunteer tossing, shields, as have been suggested and two air valves in series to keep fingers or whatever out
Great explantion of how wood screws work. Thanks!
My 5 minute poop just turned into 26 minutes. Thanks, Acorn!
#Fibre
Happens to me too, have to see their vid to the end, then wipe.
Same
Just don't make that mistake too often, extended time on a toilet can lead to medical issues. (Distended sphincter, hemorrhoids, and a few others).
@@thomasarussellsr
Yep, do I ever know. Now. :-((
People trolling these two need to watch Ian Smith sailing channel, instead of making brainless comments I just admire their ability to do twice the work from half as much resources.
That might have to become out motto:
Acorn to Arabella, where we do twice the work with half the resources
haha
The Internet is full of experts with no practical experience
Nic Thomas And there are some who make judgments on others of whom they know nothing.
Yes I agree, everyone knows they should have used duct tape :)
@@michaelmc8354 I disagree, you can size up a person by how they reply
@@rlmillr Hahaha aw can you imagine what that would look like. No these guys have spent a lot of time thinking things through, they have talked to other boat builders - not saying they are right or wrong, you can only learn through experience and it is their journey we are purely observers
The way I would have done it, is the most productive, most energy saving, most cost effective way to do it. And for the very low price of $89.95 plus applicable sales tax, use tax, and end production fees, I will send you the plans right away! And if you order right now, I'll throw in two ways to get free help from the Governmment, and a way to put unemployed mental patients, and previously convicted canibals, that have been released early, and need a job, to work for cheap!! Say "I WANT TO HELP MENTAL PATIENTS", and pay a separate processing and handling fee of $649.99 per piece, and I will throw in plans to a second press, ABSOLUTELY FREE!! You heard me! FREE!!
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Love the video and the fact that you put the internet experts in their place. I enjoy that you guys figure stuff and make it happen as it makes the channel that more enjoyable to watch than just some person making a boat. Keep up the great work and looking forward to the next video. Oh yeah......If someone can make the rivets faster and better then let them make all you need and donate them to the build. Instead of running their mouth they can run their press!
There's definitely faster and better ways, but those take time to make or money to get, so for what you need I'd say you have the perfect tool. We have a hand pumped hydraulic press that easily gets to 50+ tonnes of pressure at my job, so something like that would probably be better, but they cost a small fortune, even old ones, and they're heavy as fuck. Keep up the good work! 4000 rivets aren't that much in the big picture!
Once again, some great content. Thank you! Bring on the rivet experts. May not be perfect but the point is you built it.
Yes. For PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR.
You can sell me a rivet, and I'm sure it could be a good fund raiser
I would actully buy one! Be a great conversation piece!
I'd buy two.
+Acorn to Arabella.. lol, you're in!! 😁
Calculating labor... more labor... materials... that'll be 26.50 please.
Put the date made and boat name. I'd buy one or two
You are such a great teacher! What great demonstrations.
Thanks!
Some ideas for a rivet mashiene 2.0:
1. Get rit of the screws if possible. Screws are so slow if you have to open them every time. try to build a big knee lever tensioner and cuple one of the die half to it. They can pe realy strong and are much faster and easier to use.
2. make some dyes that have the slot completly in one side, not half/haf like you have now, and fix the chanel-less side to the press. Also drill some holes/slots in the hinged side that corrospond with some pins, wich engage when you swing the hinged-half down. that way you dont have to beat out the rivets with a hammer every time you open the tool.
3. (and this one is not realy that important) while you're basicly rebuilding the whole thing, put on some limit switches on the press so that the compressor automaticly starts up, wehen you pull the lever down (see 1.) and also a switch that automaticly retracts the press again when the dye is fully pressed in
Remember the part of the video where he said, if you have any better ideas, build your own and maybe we'll buy it from you? That was a subtle hint that they aren't interested in suggestions when they have a perfectly good working machine.
@@danno1111 I do remember that. But since I have neither time nor tools or even the cash to build a such a mashine just for the slim chance to sell said mashine and then ship it over an entire ocean, I just chose to do the next best thing: make my Ideas public so that maybe somebody else can use them and do build a sellable version.
Screws are simple and strong. Simple and strong is good when you have a machine exerting tens of thousands of pounds of pressure, built by an amateur metalworker and operated by semi-skilled labor with no support structure (workman's comp, etc) in place.
@@netpackrat but screws are also excruciatingly slow. And if you need to fasten and loosen 4 screws literally a thousand times, then You know what pain is.
@@aka_pcfx Yes.
In theory, bolts are supposed to be loaded in tension, not laterally which tends to move sideways and loosen. Threaded portions should stretch at the same rate as the wooden threads. This important fastening metal, and as a result the length of the female threads is limited to a length short enough so each turn of thread pulls evenly.
No extra work for this upgrade: don't undo the nuts all the way. Loosen them enough to slip a piece of steel in between the two halves of the die from the bottom and drive the rivets out. Also, use a cordless driver to do the loosening and tightening on nuts.
The driver won't get them tight enough. The thin steel might be a thing to try though!
@@AcornToArabella, get a bigger impact wrench. You'll find one. L
Excellent work gentleman.
Grease the inside of the die before you put in the stock so you won't have to hammer the rivets out
Just a wipe with a candle stub will do it. Beeswax is traditional, though.
Good day Sir, I have found your series to be rather amazing. And seeing the challenges that your going through to achieve your dream. Is both inspiring and gratifying. Because let's take the rivet part of your issue. You couldn't find what you needed. So you created the tools to do what you wanted. Yeah kinda a vicarious thing to see some small triumph towards your end goal. And get a smile out if seeing your great work.
But you need to add a gallon of prop wash and a yard of flight line to each frame for extra strength! Aviation humor! LOL
Funny you said this. I just told someone this newbie joke from my aviation days (30+ years ago).
And for God's sake DON'T forget the Steam Blankets!
Go the radio shop and ask gunny for a prick E 7, while your ther get a case of CB handles, then go to admin and fill out a ID 10 T form.
IdahoRodgers USMC, I filled out that ID 10 T form 14 times and each case they just laughed at me. Well I left there in a hurry! I knowed when I’m not wunted!
@@SKSOUTH2012 don't forget the left-handed Crescent wrench!!!
Awesome group effort on the rivet production! You've challenged me to get off my duff and build a press!! Just do it!
Did you try spraying silicon on both sides of Rivot Press Die ? To make a bit easier to Press and Remove ? Pop out after.
Or PB Blaster ?
I'd try dry graphite powder.
I was going to say oil, car wax, or WD-40, whatever is around. Copper under pressure gets kinda sticky. Great video though. You got me on the "copper rivets". My friends just don't understand my fascination with stuff like that.
I would think even the toilet bowl wax,,, already on hand,,, and cheap--plus a little goes a long way!
@@48wilber I agree that if they would use toilet bowl wax they could really get a head.
Pam
New to your channel. I have watched this far in 6 days. I think it is great that you show us why you make the choices you do and even stand by for the criticism that is given you. Keep remembering you do you and all these “experts” have probably NEVER built a boat like you! Can’t wait to get caught up on the vids!
Need to heat anneal those rivets, copper work hardens and becomes brittle.
Good Idea, was thinking the same...
Good morning, I would be concerned with cracks if they were aluminum or SS but copper alloys are very malleable. There is very little material upset during the cold forging process. i would be concerned if it was 15 times stock diameter. FYI... i make custom cold-forged fasteners/parts for a living. have a great Holiday. slidematic.com/
Make your rivets red hot in the fire and then dunk them into water. Instantly annealed!
@@andre3823 .. wouldn't that temper them? I know nothing about copper but that's how you temper steel. Very slow cooling is for annealing.
@@rlmillr nope, copper goes very soft with that method. ,😆
Not sure why but this episode really made me smile😀👍
An air chisel will pop those rivets out without much effort.
I am confident you guys know what you are doing and your boat will be fine.
I think that some people need to go build their own boat and leave less comments.
Amen!
Well maybe better not.
If the comments are any indication at least some are better off staying on land.
And those of us who sail are safer that way too.
The comments to this video (more than any other) have been crazy clever and funny. "Screwing around"...get it?! "Riveting content"...and on and on. I don't think there are m/any comments that are seriously intended to be critical.
@@Landogarner83 Thanks for that one.
@@manfredschmalbach9023 You're welcome :-)
Awesome work on the die. The only suggestions I have, *if* you were going to produce enough for more than one boat, would be: (1) come up with something faster than bolts to lock it closed. I'm thinking some sort of cam. (2) add some sort of ejector pin system.
You could start selling rivets. 😁
now isnt that a riveting idea
Maybe not selling them as a rivet, but as swag... Rivet keychain? Rivet pen? I think they'd sell well... You'd need to give it a surface finish though, so that it's not the customer's hands doing the oxidizing
Wouldn't be able to use volunteer labor then, and would have to comply with all labor laws, osha, etc.
The tapered drill is very cool ! "The right tool for the job at hand !"
And those rivets are AWESOME !!
OH YEAH ABOUT THOSE WELDS, THEY'RE REALLY UGL-
Why are you shouting?
@@delboy2596 I DON"T KNOW!.
Way to go, Odie!
Lots of armchair shipwrights among your viewers.
the way you guys handle viewer comments is pure class:)
Martin here in good old blighty. What would be really, really cool is one of the pins on the rivet machine has your emblem on it, so 25% of the rivets have that extra feature or you could sell some so we can all own a little bit or arabella, and you guys raise more funds, everyone's a winner.
When we install them the hammer would remove the mark.
1 in every 10/15 rivets does not form a perfect head so those will get culled. Once we have a pile of culled rivets we plan to stamp them with "A2A Reject" and offer them up for sale instead of sending them to the scrap yard. Won't be for a couple months yet but stay tuned!
@@AcornToArabella AxA Do you have a signup sheet for these primo souvenirs? I'm sure you just have nothing to do (lol) but might be a good way to judge how successful this mini-fundraiser would be. I'm not rolling in dough (honestly, who is, right?!) but I gotta have a few of these!
This project is so much fun to watch, and the chance to be a part of it in some small way is just way too cool. Help me spend my small pot o' gold before the wife finds it and decides we need something stupid, like bread or milk - you know, worthless crap...!!!
@@AcornToArabella What would work is a soft head hammer like plastic or soft copper that is used in machine shops a 2 or 3 pounder also you could soap the rivets when you put them in. Just a thought.
Great , and best of all the machine is working. You are making while others are still in the “planning” stage.
Wonderful Square rivets, they will hold so much better/stronger than the screws would. I would suggest that you use a Pneumatic Buck-n-Bar method when installing them. Just like how Aluminum Aircraft rivets are mounted to wings and airframes skins. The peened end will be so much more uniform/stronger, and easier/faster to install. Great job on the boat, I look forward eagerly to each weeks installments.
Thanks, we were just kindly donated an Ingersoll Rand rivet gun for the riveting!
I've been watching you guys from the start and I am very experienced in woodworking and mechanics your boat is going to be great. I have a 22' plastic sailboat and would love to be the owner of a wooden boat. Sailing is the coolest thing I've ever done.
There sure is a lot of comments here from keyboard experts. You guys are really good, feel free to stop providing reassurance to these twats and show us more of your details. You don't need to decent anything you do the explanation and close video work covers it all. Well done! Can't wait to see how the planking work goes
Good that you painting the end grain and oiling the steamebent wood as they tend to dry out faster. As a boatbuilder I know you are on the right track with everything. I would say that you are extra careful, not cutting corners like I probably would. Dont worry to much about the comments here, and you are right you dont need to fasten the frames to the keel at all since you will put in floortimbers. Although its true oak will be black around steel nails, its no problem to use stainless steel screws. Bronze is more traditional though. Looks nice.
Gaaaaah.. hard to decide which to watch first.. a new acorn to arabella video, or the new "stung by an executioner wasp" video from brave wildernees that I've been looking forward to forever... Acorn to Arabella it is!
You guys amaze me with your ingenuity, great stuff, keep it going. Cheers
This it the most appropriate video for nearing Christmas; not because there is holly or shepherds or King Herod (but there is a wise man :) ) but because it begins with "DO NOT BE AFRAID!" :)
Like your design and all I can add is when you put the copper blanks in wipe some tallow on the blanks to help it release from the die without hammering.
Nice job.
Glad to see you are still on track, loved the rivet press, Steve, Alix & Akiva and volunteers Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year , Brian UK !!!
Thanks guys! My new t-shirt arrived today, just in time for Christmas
Thanks for the support!
Very easy explanation on the screws, should put everyone's mind at rest. I bought a kilo of copper nails which cost me £75. This was just to nail the rails for a 4m boat which used about 3/4 of them. I even saved the 25mm ends to turn into short nails. Your solution is brilliant.
That's a pretty cool machine! You guys are taking DIY to the next level with homemade rivets. :D
Thanks guys ,She’s starting too take shape and look like a boat. Merry Christmas and all the very best wishes for 2019 from Scotland 🏴👍🏻🍻