Wow M.A. I can see why it took longer to make this what if. Limit-Breaker SSJ4 to a long time to be fully introduced and Kale's in GT is different than her canon counterpart because her feats and power scaling is similar to movie Broly. Not to mention you would accidentally create a DBS/DBZ BOF moment where Goku who's already powerful can cause a shift in your story by becoming a Super Saiyan God in SSJ4 form. But facts aside, you did a very good job and I hope Kale will have a better future in the next part.
@@MangaAdventures You're welcome, buddy. Stay safe and I hope to see you in the next part or the next what if. Cheers and God bless. 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Amazing job! Adding SSJ4 Limit Breaker from Heroes was really clever, i wasn't expecting that! For the story, do whatever you want, i know you will never dissapoint us. Great video!
This is awesome man. I honestly was surprised even giving kale 2 very huge zenkais still wasn't enough to keep up lol. Love your power scalling and can't wait for part 2
The man is back! Btw, you're still in Lightro's Hunger Games and living. Been rooting for you. I didn't expect for Kale to be taken in this direction, but I really dig it! Like another comment, understandable why it took so long. I didn't even think that Movie Gohan actually trained in the seven year timeskip, because I thought he was the same Gohan from canon. Just different events. Goku getting the Limit Breaker form was a bit of a surprise. I was expecting just flat out SSJ God, but this works far better. Obviously, Smug did something of that sort.
Yep Gohan train during 7 year time-skip (Broly Second coming), because back then the DBZ Movie were planned ahead of the Manga/Anime, and the people doing the movie didn't know what the plan for Gohan was after the Time-skip so they went with was he kept up with his training. Broly is just that powerful in the movie.
After the Baby Saga I can see Kale stay with Gohan, Videl, and Pan, and having a more of a family dynamic with Kale here sense she never had one (It probably take a bit to get use to, but once she does she'll be happy.). Also neat on Goku getting SSJ4 with God Ki here. Everybody getting God Ki in GT (Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Pan, and maybe Kale) would be neat especially if it's a possibility of GT mixing with Super (Which I voted for).
Kale becoming a honorary "big sister" to Pan, and Pan helping Kale gain control over her Super Saiyan form (possibly even achieving Super Saiyan herself) seems like a nice idea...
@@MangaAdventures yeah but I recommend making super take place after end of Z and sprinkle in elements of GT, like baby, ssj4, shadow Dragons along with the sagas of super
Okay but have you ignored the "broly destroyed the south galaxy'' feat? Galaxy houses hundreads of solar systems, and since super perfect cell was confident to be able to destroy only a solar system with his max power attack, broly is put way above super perfect cell. It's really as simple as that, the writers of the eight movie assumed cell would've been stronger so they buffed broly, but they buffed him so much he became more powerful than the main baddie
Hearing you cover ss2 gohan in the broly movie makes me want to see your take on what if gohan never stopped training Apologies if you've already done it
Easy to play around with GT since it isn’t canon for some reason I couldn’t get into this what if, but you did the best you could with the storytelling which made me watch thru until the end.
What if: - DBS Goku were in GT - Agumon were in GT - Farmer with the Shotgun were in GT - You were in GT - DBS writers were in GT - Your favorite RUclipsr were in GT - GT characters were in GT
Man, you really are amazing. You are way too underrated and i appreciate your content, this is going in as one of my fav gt what ifs and keep it up man and also when are you doing What if Goten was like Broly?
Ahh god ki exists in this what if nice but ima guess the ssj4 limit breaker is a temporary thing and after training somehow regains it back and vegeta also learns it i hope And can kale trunks pan goten bra gohan also be relevant in this what if i really hope they do
Possible alternative take for Golden Oozaru: GT Goku is much weaker as a child, and Oozaru sorta forces his body to grow. Possibly returning him to his full power. So, if we assume that Kid Goku is half as strong as Adult Goku, then Golden Oozaru would be a x1,000 multiplier instead of x500 Keep in mind that: In the Saiyan Saga, Goku using a normal Kaio-Ken (~16,200) couldn't even touch Vegeta (18,000) Vegeta at 24,000 was able to manhandle Dodoria (around 22,000), that's less than a 10% difference and it was a stomp. SSJ Goku was only 25% stronger than Full Power Freeza, and that fight was also a one-sided stomp (in the manga. Anime made Freeza look like he had a chance, but that's filler) SSJ Gohan in the Cell games was slightly weaker than Cell, and still in SSJ2 by simply doubling his power (not quite twice as strong as Cell) he was able to fodderize him. So you don't need a huge gap in power to completely dominate someone. Golden Oozaru Goku could literally be 10% stronger than Super Baby 2 and the fight would have gone the same way (not saying he's only 10% stronger, just giving this as an example.)
That's a good theory but in my opinion it feel apart when you consider golden great ape is Ssj x 10 or 500. Even if we double that to 1000. The multipler wouldn't be enough to stop super baby 2 since baby Vegeta or white haired Vegeta was as strong as a super saiyan but was easily a match for ssj3 Goku meaning when he went SSj2 then 3 (super baby and super baby 2) he would become 8 times stronger than ssj3 goku in his final form. Made a little chart Ssj3 Goku = 400 = Baby Vegeta Super baby = 800 Super baby 2 = 3,200 Golden great ape Goku = 1,000
@@MangaAdventures well all I hope is that we get to see limit breaker ssj4 again, an a improvement to the other GT sagas I know Super 17 has potential, and so do the shadow Dragons
Can we all agree that if gt goku at the end of gt after beating omega shenron became an adult again gaining back power that he lost and also having his new power can we agree that if he trained long enough he would be as strong or stronger than ssb
You messed up a bit on your ssj4 scaling. Golden Ape is actually 12,800x base form. exhausted SSJ4 gets to an insane 81 billion times base form, and when he reaches full power, he gets an 800x boost on top of that. And you forgot that Baby had an SSJ3 transformation which stacks on top of golden ape, not to mention Bulma’s bruits waves made him 1000x stronger
I loved it please do a part 2, i actually like GT also i think super saiyan grade 3 is actually equal to super saiyan 2 when it comes to sheer brute strength perhaps stronger because Cell admitted Trunks had more sheer strength than him. also i'd love to see you mix super and gt!
Awesome to see another gt fan and I'm not going to lie I didn't think grade 3 would be the same strength as SSj2 so thanks for opening my eyes to that possibility!
If _Super_ elements are mixed in during the next part, maybe you could replace Super 17 with Android 21 (who would be a Machine Mutant-Android hybrid instead of a Android-Majin hybrid)?
ssj4 limit breaker goku one shots baby vegeta lol, i think 4,000 is the multiplier for ssj4 and 2,000 is a lowball but I like the introduction of the characters and I think it would be interesting to continue to super.
I said 32,000 in my video and here's why Ssj3 = 400 and baby is the same level as a super saiyan So super baby 1 = 800 Super baby 2 = 3,200 Golden ape Goku was stronger than this. Great ape is a x10 so Golden great ape = 400 x 10 or 4000 Baby also became a great so he also gets x10 Golden ape baby = 32,000. Ssj4 was evenly matched with this so he has a multipler that reflects 32,000/4000 = 8 so Ssj4 is 8 times golden great ape. 80 times ssj3 and 32,000 times base
I think Kale and uub would get along great. Both have monsters inside, but want to do good, both have endless potential, also, how op would a hybrid of the legendary ssj, and majuub be. That and if they do god ki training, you have a even crazier amount of potential.
Well, I've made my vote in the community tab, but I'll say it here. Lets mix it with Super, since there's already elements of Super with Limit-Breaker SSJ4 and Kale herself; we might aswell go further with that. I mean, I've already seen a GT-Super hybrid story with Smugstick, but I wouldn't mind seeing a different take on that idea.
You’re tripping. 2nd Coming was created when Videl was training with Gohan, and by then Vegeta already confirms that Gohan stopped training and was sloppy. So post-time skip Gohan is equal to, or weaker than Cell Saga Gohan
You're wrong because the whole reason Vegeta entered the tournament was to see if he had surpassed Gohan. If he knew he was weaker he wouldn't have even bothered. Immediately after Goku says he'll enter. It wasn't until he fought Dabura i.e after the movie came out did Vegeta officially annouce gohan had gotten weaker than he was against cell
Breaking it down let's assume you're right. That would mean Broly would have had to have gotten more than 50xs weaker if base gohan could fight Ssj Broly but super saiyan Vegeta couldn't even move him. Not getting a zenkai is one thing but becoming weaker is un heard of especially in dragon ball for a saiyan who lost a fight
Lol people will try to tell you grade 4 is more powerful because Goku and gohan were so much stronger than Vegeta and trunks but the reason for that is Vegeta and trunks did train in the time chamber but didn't train together and that was there biggest mistake
Just explained this to someone else. I said 32,000 in my video and here's why Ssj3 = 400 and baby is the same level as a super saiyan So super baby 1 = 800 Super baby 2 = 3,200 Golden ape Goku was stronger than this. Great ape is a x10 so Golden great ape = 400 x 10 or 4000 Baby also became a great so he also gets x10 Golden ape baby = 32,000. Ssj4 was evenly matched with this so he has a multipler that reflects 32,000/4000 = 8 so Ssj4 is 8 times golden great ape. 80 times ssj3 and 32,000 times base
im at 15:45 power scaling u dont know kid goku is much weaker then adult goku you cant scale like that he self said i think he is much weaker + shorter arms and leggs so ssj3 adult goku >> ssj3 kid goku its like in real life think about it
Yes you can because Goku never lost power turning into a kid this was stated multiple times. His small body couldn't handle the stamina drain of ssj3 but other than that he was fine. Though if you have evidence against my statement I'd be glad to hear it.
Made Broly way too strong Bro. The daiz says SS Broly is stronger than SS Goku but m11 and M12 both have SS2 Goku and Pikkon beating Broly in hell. Gohan competing with Broly in base is a combo of Gohan being a better fighter and Toei hax. Toei always have the base saiayns fighting stronger charcters. Gohan in m10 should be around his cell games power and he was able to stun and stop Broly. Later 3 Super saiyans are able to blast Broly away. Even if he was stronger than SS2 he's not SS3 level.
1. Bio Broly (m11) ended with goku being tasked to CALM DOWN Broly alongside pikkon. How or if they beat Broly was not mentioned at all so to say Goku only used SSj2 has no leg to stand on for all we know he could have used ssj3. Pikkon may have learned a new transformation. They may have needed every fighter in the other world to just hold him off for king yemma to seal him away. 2. Broly was not in fusion reborn (m12) or even mentioned 3. To say someone only beat someone else because of plot could be said for every fight that's not an argument more of an opinion. I already explained the movies have a different Canon than the anime because of toei not knowing what will happen next. They did the best with the information given at the time of course in hindsight it may look ridiculous. 4. A Gohan would kept his word to protect the world and train seriously would not only be perfect cell levels but at the end of the day that's your opinion and you once again have no evidence to back it up. 5. Broly was blasted away with the help of ssj2 gohan, Ssj Goten and we aren't sure what level Goku was using could have been 2 or 1 either or 3 combined blast would overwhelm anybody
@@MangaAdventures 1. Paragus is in Fusion Reborn which means the events of Broly took place. In the same movie Goku says only Majin Buu has pushed me this far. 3. The movies have a different continuity yes but they also copy the strength of the manga at the time. Gohan is going from the weakest SS in M8 to the strongest from the Cell games. He's not strong enough to fight perfect cell in base. 5. Gohan and Goku were both SS. Goku hadn't shown SS2 in the manga yet and Gohan has two bangs. 3 SSs couldn't beat a charcter stronger than a SS3 other they wouldn't have been so worried about Buu.
1. When Goku fought majin buu it was too stall him he wasn't pushed at all. He even said he could have beaten buu. Why do I bring this up because both Goku AND Vegeta are dead meaning things happened much differently in this movie than in Canon. Goten and trunks know the fusion which means Gotenks was the one to defeat buu meaning Goku never fought another form of buu because if did he would be alive. The elder Kai having brought him back to face super buu. What you told me was a dub insert sir. 2. The movies do not use the same power scaling as Canon. Goku used kaio-ken x100 against slug, he absorbed the energy of the spirit bomb, he uses the dragon fist (also preformed in Gt) and so on. These feats have never been mentioned or even suggested in Canon. If Goku knew these techniques he would have used them kaio-ken x100 on namek would have ended frieza. Absorbing the spirit bomb beaten cell. The dragon fist destroy kid buu. Compared to Canon the movie version of characters are a league above anything. 3.Gohan only has 1 bang please rewatch the family kamehameha again. Also Goku didn't know a lot of these in the manga that he did in the movies so nice try
@@MangaAdventures 1. Majin Buu did push Goku that far. Ss2 was too weak, Ss3 was more than enough. Buu pushed Goku tongues ss3. 2. Those are techniques. Goku has kkx100 in the slug movie yes but he's starting at a power level of 90,000. Goku at the start of slug is the same as the one that fought the ginyu force. Toei then goes from there and changes things. 3. Gohan has two bangs at the start. And Goku didn't know what in the movie? M10 was released around the time Goku was fighting Yakon in the movie, so even if Gohan went SS2 Goku and Goten weren't. If Broly was stronger than a SS3 he wouldn't be able to be pushed back by a Kamehameha or stunned by Gohan.
Major plot point of GT that Goku and Pan too little to be strong. Most enemies not hard for fully powered adult saiyan to beat early on. Kale smash everyone until Baby Vegeta. Buu just guess. SSJ4 Kale probably Buu's favorite part of this What If GT, haha!
@@MangaAdventures Just a guess. Smaller body, shorter arms and legs, less striking power. In first world martial arts tournament, Jackie Chun claim he only win because his arms longer than little Goku, able to hit just a little harder to pull out win.
Yeah he can't reach but that doesn't mean he's weaker. With the addition of ki blast and his years of experience he can work around that. He defeated enemies stronger than buu as a kid super saiyan
Wow M.A.
I can see why it took longer to make this what if.
Limit-Breaker SSJ4 to a long time to be fully introduced and Kale's in GT is different than her canon counterpart because her feats and power scaling is similar to movie Broly.
Not to mention you would accidentally create a DBS/DBZ BOF moment where Goku who's already powerful can cause a shift in your story by becoming a Super Saiyan God in SSJ4 form.
But facts aside, you did a very good job and I hope Kale will have a better future in the next part.
Thanks I'm glad you understand why it took so long!
@@MangaAdventures
You're welcome, buddy.
Stay safe and I hope to see you in the next part or the next what if.
Cheers and God bless. 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Dude, I got to say that I love the backstory you came up with for Kale!
Thanks I'm glad you liked it!
Dang i never even considered the vegeta feet, 2nd movie broly is crazy strong
Right!
Yeah but he did destroy a galaxy so he is much stronger than kid buu
Amazing job! Adding SSJ4 Limit Breaker from Heroes was really clever, i wasn't expecting that! For the story, do whatever you want, i know you will never dissapoint us. Great video!
Thanks bro!
This is awesome man. I honestly was surprised even giving kale 2 very huge zenkais still wasn't enough to keep up lol. Love your power scalling and can't wait for part 2
Thanks man can't wait to see you at part 2!
The man is back!
Btw, you're still in Lightro's Hunger Games and living.
Been rooting for you.
I didn't expect for Kale to be taken in this direction, but I really dig it! Like another comment, understandable why it took so long.
I didn't even think that Movie Gohan actually trained in the seven year timeskip, because I thought he was the same Gohan from canon. Just different events.
Goku getting the Limit Breaker form was a bit of a surprise. I was expecting just flat out SSJ God, but this works far better. Obviously, Smug did something of that sort.
Yep Gohan train during 7 year time-skip (Broly Second coming), because back then the DBZ Movie were planned ahead of the Manga/Anime, and the people doing the movie didn't know what the plan for Gohan was after the Time-skip so they went with was he kept up with his training. Broly is just that powerful in the movie.
@@Trap5656
That Gohan sounds much cooler now.
HE HAS RETURNED!! Awesome video btw 👌
Thanks bro!
@@MangaAdventures its all good 👍
So many people think Gohan got weaker so I gotta thank u for actually putting work into ur videos bro
Yep from the GT Perfect Files it stated everybody kept up with there training or at least I know it said for Gohan and Goten.
Thanks bro
After the Baby Saga I can see Kale stay with Gohan, Videl, and Pan, and having a more of a family dynamic with Kale here sense she never had one (It probably take a bit to get use to, but once she does she'll be happy.). Also neat on Goku getting SSJ4 with God Ki here. Everybody getting God Ki in GT (Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Pan, and maybe Kale) would be neat especially if it's a possibility of GT mixing with Super (Which I voted for).
It seems mixing gt with super is winning so that may be next
Kale becoming a honorary "big sister" to Pan, and Pan helping Kale gain control over her Super Saiyan form (possibly even achieving Super Saiyan herself) seems like a nice idea...
@@MangaAdventures yeah but I recommend making super take place after end of Z and sprinkle in elements of GT, like baby, ssj4, shadow Dragons along with the sagas of super
Okay but have you ignored the "broly destroyed the south galaxy'' feat?
Galaxy houses hundreads of solar systems, and since super perfect cell was confident to be able to destroy only a solar system with his max power attack, broly is put way above super perfect cell. It's really as simple as that, the writers of the eight movie assumed cell would've been stronger so they buffed broly, but they buffed him so much he became more powerful than the main baddie
Strangely I think king vegeta would try forcing Kale to be the future wife of vegeta, making his grandchildren surpass frieza.
Hope you decide to bring part 2, this was a fun what if.
Hearing you cover ss2 gohan in the broly movie makes me want to see your take on what if gohan never stopped training
Apologies if you've already done it
Great video I never expected something like this. I do hope you continue if goten was like Broly.
Definitely will!
I love mixing GT with super so please give that a shot if you like the idea! It improves both series’ shortcomings when handled well imo
I love it man,i want see next What if parts man,at first i did'nt want to see it,but,after seeing it,i love vídeo do more of this
Glad you liked it and gave my video a chance!
Welcome back not to mention this what if has a lot of potential
Thanks
Easy to play around with GT since it isn’t canon for some reason I couldn’t get into this what if, but you did the best you could with the storytelling which made me watch thru until the end.
Thanks for watching until the end you're the best!
Part 2 this was so fun and nice
I've been waiting for this
Thanks, manga adventures
Nice video
Thanks
What if:
- DBS Goku were in GT
- Agumon were in GT
- Farmer with the Shotgun were in GT
- You were in GT
- DBS writers were in GT
- Your favorite RUclipsr were in GT
- GT characters were in GT
@Manga Adventures, Canon Early "Adult" Gohan, would have been trashed by Second Coming Broly.
No doubt
@Manga Adventures,
I hope Kale's tail grows back, so she can reach Ssj4.
Man, you really are amazing. You are way too underrated and i appreciate your content, this is going in as one of my fav gt what ifs and keep it up man and also when are you doing What if Goten was like Broly?
I'll finish it up
Omg that was amazing
Thank you!
Mix super elements homie!
I completely agree with the power scaling, what an amazing video
Thanks!
Ahh god ki exists in this what if nice but ima guess the ssj4 limit breaker is a temporary thing and after training somehow regains it back and vegeta also learns it i hope
And can kale trunks pan goten bra gohan also be relevant in this what if i really hope they do
Possible alternative take for Golden Oozaru:
GT Goku is much weaker as a child, and Oozaru sorta forces his body to grow. Possibly returning him to his full power.
So, if we assume that Kid Goku is half as strong as Adult Goku, then Golden Oozaru would be a x1,000 multiplier instead of x500
Keep in mind that:
In the Saiyan Saga, Goku using a normal Kaio-Ken (~16,200) couldn't even touch Vegeta (18,000)
Vegeta at 24,000 was able to manhandle Dodoria (around 22,000), that's less than a 10% difference and it was a stomp.
SSJ Goku was only 25% stronger than Full Power Freeza, and that fight was also a one-sided stomp (in the manga. Anime made Freeza look like he had a chance, but that's filler)
SSJ Gohan in the Cell games was slightly weaker than Cell, and still in SSJ2 by simply doubling his power (not quite twice as strong as Cell) he was able to fodderize him.
So you don't need a huge gap in power to completely dominate someone. Golden Oozaru Goku could literally be 10% stronger than Super Baby 2 and the fight would have gone the same way (not saying he's only 10% stronger, just giving this as an example.)
That's a good theory but in my opinion it feel apart when you consider golden great ape is Ssj x 10 or 500. Even if we double that to 1000. The multipler wouldn't be enough to stop super baby 2 since baby Vegeta or white haired Vegeta was as strong as a super saiyan but was easily a match for ssj3 Goku meaning when he went SSj2 then 3 (super baby and super baby 2) he would become 8 times stronger than ssj3 goku in his final form. Made a little chart
Ssj3 Goku = 400 = Baby Vegeta
Super baby = 800
Super baby 2 = 3,200
Golden great ape Goku = 1,000
You bring ssj4 limit breaker
That’s awesome
What if shallot was canon part 2
Cool idea for a what if, its like a parallel to the Caulifla what if, sorta
Thanks that was the plan!
@@MangaAdventures well all I hope is that we get to see limit breaker ssj4 again, an a improvement to the other GT sagas
I know Super 17 has potential, and so do the shadow Dragons
Can we all agree that if gt goku at the end of gt after beating omega shenron became an adult again gaining back power that he lost and also having his new power can we agree that if he trained long enough he would be as strong or stronger than ssb
You messed up a bit on your ssj4 scaling. Golden Ape is actually 12,800x base form. exhausted SSJ4 gets to an insane 81 billion times base form, and when he reaches full power, he gets an 800x boost on top of that. And you forgot that Baby had an SSJ3 transformation which stacks on top of golden ape, not to mention Bulma’s bruits waves made him 1000x stronger
This man always sounds a badass
Lol thanks
Good work
Thank you
@@MangaAdventures can you watch my dbz what ifs
I loved it please do a part 2, i actually like GT also i think super saiyan grade 3 is actually equal to super saiyan 2 when it comes to sheer brute strength perhaps stronger because Cell admitted Trunks had more sheer strength than him. also i'd love to see you mix super and gt!
That's what I thought.
The power is there, but the flaw is too much bulk and thus, very limited speed.
SSJ2 fixes that.
Awesome to see another gt fan and I'm not going to lie I didn't think grade 3 would be the same strength as SSj2 so thanks for opening my eyes to that possibility!
More if this series and cannyou do pt2 of shallot yet its really good
Will do
@@MangaAdventures yesyesyesyesyesyesyeyseysyesyeysyesyeysyeys
@Manga Adventures,
1) What if Super Baby 2, had achieved Ssj 4?
2) What if Super Baby 2, had went Grade 2 (and later 3) ?
good
I want to be like you
You can be!
If _Super_ elements are mixed in during the next part, maybe you could replace Super 17 with Android 21 (who would be a Machine Mutant-Android hybrid instead of a Android-Majin hybrid)?
OOH.
can u do a what if on what if beeurs woke up in GT
I wonder what's gonna happen next?
Can we see another one please
Yes
ssj4 limit breaker goku one shots baby vegeta lol, i think 4,000 is the multiplier for ssj4 and 2,000 is a lowball but I like the introduction of the characters and I think it would be interesting to continue to super.
I said 32,000 in my video and here's why
Ssj3 = 400 and baby is the same level as a super saiyan
So super baby 1 = 800
Super baby 2 = 3,200
Golden ape Goku was stronger than this. Great ape is a x10 so
Golden great ape = 400 x 10 or 4000
Baby also became a great so he also gets x10
Golden ape baby = 32,000.
Ssj4 was evenly matched with this so he has a multipler that reflects 32,000/4000 = 8 so Ssj4 is 8 times golden great ape. 80 times ssj3 and 32,000 times base
Oh ok, that explains.
You should, in the future, do a whatif including uub! He was wasted in GT
I made an Uub Vid but it's more of a rewrite than a what if
One Critique I can't help myself if kale is there why do u still gotta have princess Trunks? Did we really still have to dress my boi in drag ? 😂😆
Ps do what if goku was the legendary ssj
What if planet Vegeta never blew up (and Goku still got sent to Earth)
Please mix with super.
Part 2 please.
Will do!
What happened to part 2?
I think Kale and uub would get along great. Both have monsters inside, but want to do good, both have endless potential, also, how op would a hybrid of the legendary ssj, and majuub be. That and if they do god ki training, you have a even crazier amount of potential.
Legendary ssj4 hybrid with god ki, and majin buu body/powers. Seems like a perfect fun for a super /gt cross over series.
Well, I've made my vote in the community tab, but I'll say it here. Lets mix it with Super, since there's already elements of Super with Limit-Breaker SSJ4 and Kale herself; we might aswell go further with that. I mean, I've already seen a GT-Super hybrid story with Smugstick, but I wouldn't mind seeing a different take on that idea.
Cool thanks for your vote!
Broku72 also did a GT-Super hybrid story.
You’re tripping. 2nd Coming was created when Videl was training with Gohan, and by then Vegeta already confirms that Gohan stopped training and was sloppy. So post-time skip Gohan is equal to, or weaker than Cell Saga Gohan
You're wrong because the whole reason Vegeta entered the tournament was to see if he had surpassed Gohan. If he knew he was weaker he wouldn't have even bothered. Immediately after Goku says he'll enter. It wasn't until he fought Dabura i.e after the movie came out did Vegeta officially annouce gohan had gotten weaker than he was against cell
Breaking it down let's assume you're right. That would mean Broly would have had to have gotten more than 50xs weaker if base gohan could fight Ssj Broly but super saiyan Vegeta couldn't even move him. Not getting a zenkai is one thing but becoming weaker is un heard of especially in dragon ball for a saiyan who lost a fight
What if u do what if goku was raised by vegeta or the opposite
Sounds interesting
Oh hell yeah ss4 God goku
What if kale was in Gt
One saiyan chick for majuub to swil with ... 🤣
I was watching a what if and now am here like why didn't they wish for a cure to goku heart virus
In Canon I have no idea maybe they thought he would overcome it. Realistically it's because Akira wanted a dark griddy future
So what you’re saying is if Gohan kept up his training he would’ve fodderized every adversary? Nice to know
Holy shit a goku that is now 20,000 times stronger or higher with god ki will make the gt stroy a cake walk. omega shenron who?
Right!
but he did not die so he wole be around super perfect cell
Cell was also punched by SSj2 Gohan and didn't die. Your statement doesn't prove he was super perfect cell levels
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What if super broly and goku landed on earth
What If Goku has a power levele of 20,000
I thought super saiyan 2 was a two tumes multiplier of grade 4 which is stronger than grade 1 or am I mistaken
Grade 4 is a 50xs multipler but it has perfect ki control which is better for Battle and is less draining than the other forms
@@MangaAdventures gotcha
Lol people will try to tell you grade 4 is more powerful because Goku and gohan were so much stronger than Vegeta and trunks but the reason for that is Vegeta and trunks did train in the time chamber but didn't train together and that was there biggest mistake
Pretty sure that was False SSJ
I know it's a 4,000 for super Saiyan 4 and ultra super Saiyan 4 is 10 times that
Just explained this to someone else.
I said 32,000 in my video and here's why
Ssj3 = 400 and baby is the same level as a super saiyan
So super baby 1 = 800
Super baby 2 = 3,200
Golden ape Goku was stronger than this. Great ape is a x10 so
Golden great ape = 400 x 10 or 4000
Baby also became a great so he also gets x10
Golden ape baby = 32,000.
Ssj4 was evenly matched with this so he has a multipler that reflects 32,000/4000 = 8 so Ssj4 is 8 times golden great ape. 80 times ssj3 and 32,000 times base
im at 15:45 power scaling u dont know kid goku is much weaker then adult goku you cant scale like that he self said i think he is much weaker + shorter arms and leggs so
ssj3 adult goku >> ssj3 kid goku its like in real life think about it
Yes you can because Goku never lost power turning into a kid this was stated multiple times. His small body couldn't handle the stamina drain of ssj3 but other than that he was fine. Though if you have evidence against my statement I'd be glad to hear it.
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This power scaling tho
Am i the only one who remembers broly blowing up a galaxy, that makes him stronger than even kid buu.
tell me why every one hates GT sure it's crap sometimes but it's still a good show
1. Goku being turned into a kid
2. Goku being turned into a kid
3. Goku being turned into a kid
universe 6 saiyans dont have tails.
Thank goodness she was born in universe 7 were they do
What's GT?
Me and my friend only watch Dragon Ball
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What that i only watch z movie and Kai
I heard you and your friends are pretty cool though!
Made Broly way too strong Bro. The daiz says SS Broly is stronger than SS Goku but m11 and M12 both have SS2 Goku and Pikkon beating Broly in hell.
Gohan competing with Broly in base is a combo of Gohan being a better fighter and Toei hax. Toei always have the base saiayns fighting stronger charcters.
Gohan in m10 should be around his cell games power and he was able to stun and stop Broly.
Later 3 Super saiyans are able to blast Broly away. Even if he was stronger than SS2 he's not SS3 level.
1. Bio Broly (m11) ended with goku being tasked to CALM DOWN Broly alongside pikkon. How or if they beat Broly was not mentioned at all so to say Goku only used SSj2 has no leg to stand on for all we know he could have used ssj3. Pikkon may have learned a new transformation. They may have needed every fighter in the other world to just hold him off for king yemma to seal him away.
2. Broly was not in fusion reborn (m12) or even mentioned
3. To say someone only beat someone else because of plot could be said for every fight that's not an argument more of an opinion. I already explained the movies have a different Canon than the anime because of toei not knowing what will happen next. They did the best with the information given at the time of course in hindsight it may look ridiculous.
4. A Gohan would kept his word to protect the world and train seriously would not only be perfect cell levels but at the end of the day that's your opinion and you once again have no evidence to back it up.
5. Broly was blasted away with the help of ssj2 gohan, Ssj Goten and we aren't sure what level Goku was using could have been 2 or 1 either or 3 combined blast would overwhelm anybody
@@MangaAdventures 1. Paragus is in Fusion Reborn which means the events of Broly took place. In the same movie Goku says only Majin Buu has pushed me this far.
3. The movies have a different continuity yes but they also copy the strength of the manga at the time. Gohan is going from the weakest SS in M8 to the strongest from the Cell games. He's not strong enough to fight perfect cell in base.
5. Gohan and Goku were both SS. Goku hadn't shown SS2 in the manga yet and Gohan has two bangs. 3 SSs couldn't beat a charcter stronger than a SS3 other they wouldn't have been so worried about Buu.
1. When Goku fought majin buu it was too stall him he wasn't pushed at all. He even said he could have beaten buu. Why do I bring this up because both Goku AND Vegeta are dead meaning things happened much differently in this movie than in Canon. Goten and trunks know the fusion which means Gotenks was the one to defeat buu meaning Goku never fought another form of buu because if did he would be alive. The elder Kai having brought him back to face super buu. What you told me was a dub insert sir.
2. The movies do not use the same power scaling as Canon. Goku used kaio-ken x100 against slug, he absorbed the energy of the spirit bomb, he uses the dragon fist (also preformed in Gt) and so on. These feats have never been mentioned or even suggested in Canon. If Goku knew these techniques he would have used them kaio-ken x100 on namek would have ended frieza. Absorbing the spirit bomb beaten cell. The dragon fist destroy kid buu. Compared to Canon the movie version of characters are a league above anything.
3.Gohan only has 1 bang please rewatch the family kamehameha again. Also Goku didn't know a lot of these in the manga that he did in the movies so nice try
Also because Paragus is there and Broly isn't means the events of the second movie didn't happen since he's still alive.
@@MangaAdventures 1. Majin Buu did push Goku that far. Ss2 was too weak, Ss3 was more than enough. Buu pushed Goku tongues ss3.
2. Those are techniques. Goku has kkx100 in the slug movie yes but he's starting at a power level of 90,000. Goku at the start of slug is the same as the one that fought the ginyu force. Toei then goes from there and changes things.
3. Gohan has two bangs at the start. And Goku didn't know what in the movie? M10 was released around the time Goku was fighting Yakon in the movie, so even if Gohan went SS2 Goku and Goten weren't. If Broly was stronger than a SS3 he wouldn't be able to be pushed back by a Kamehameha or stunned by Gohan.
Major plot point of GT that Goku and Pan too little to be strong. Most enemies not hard for fully powered adult saiyan to beat early on. Kale smash everyone until Baby Vegeta. Buu just guess. SSJ4 Kale probably Buu's favorite part of this What If GT, haha!
Being little was a stamina problem Goku was always the same strength
@@MangaAdventures you sure? Always seem like Goku had power reduction except when SSJ4 to Buu. Also, Buu only watched once. Maybe Buu forgot something
Why do you think he got a power reduction I'm curious. Nobody not even Goku himself said he got weaker when he turned into a kid.
@@MangaAdventures Just a guess. Smaller body, shorter arms and legs, less striking power. In first world martial arts tournament, Jackie Chun claim he only win because his arms longer than little Goku, able to hit just a little harder to pull out win.
Yeah he can't reach but that doesn't mean he's weaker. With the addition of ki blast and his years of experience he can work around that. He defeated enemies stronger than buu as a kid super saiyan
I actually hate Dragonball GT