Chris is SO MANIPULATIVE, sulking when he doesn’t get his way, twisting every point Lorelai makes, she was always walking on eggshells around him, she never fully consented to anything he did in this season. He was always so destructive and childish I hate him so much.
Sad thing is Luke didnt know his for tweleve years yet he managed to pick up from the off and be an amazing father to her and understood her, Christopher's excuse of not knowing Rory is rubbish, if he wanted to get to know her he could, he just never really cared enough to do it.Regardless of how old she was he could have changed his realtionship with her, sadly Rory was only baggage to him.
this is kind of ironic - christopher isn't in love with gigi's mother, yet has taken the reigns on fatherhood for their child (as he should) meanwhile he is in love with lorelai, yet never fully took the time to get to know rory and be the father she deserves
"I'm her father, we are married now." Pardon, were you NOT Rory's (absentee) father before marrying Lorelai? 'If she needs money we will help her out.' Just tossing money instead of solving an actual problem, great parenting.
@@lauriecarson6483 Which is fair, it's how Richard's does too. Its how Richard is able to express love. But Chris hasn't done that UNTIL he had money to burn.
Her kid is graduating from college, they've got a kid together now that's living at home. Gigi deserves to have her own space, not "something to aspire to". Saying that makes it sound like Gigi would constantly be compared to Rory growing up. Having her stay in a room that belonged to their kid that's grown and moved out and not being able to make it her own is unfair. Really, it just sounds like Lorelai doesn't care for Gigi.
@@abigaillin6635 she only saying to Chris was not to take any of Rory stuff out of they room without talking to her first. Chris didn't need to take everything out. And as soon as Lorelai talk to To Rory about it she was okay with it. If Lorelai didn't care about Gigi she wouldn't have suggested that Gigi can paint the room. At least Lorelai was concern how Rory would feel about it. Grown up or not that's still Rory's room rather then fans like it or not.
Lorelei was ALWAYS right about Chris. He isn't mature and was never ready to be a parent. Many parents just RULE over their kids. Taking away their personal stuff and alienating them from their family. Our childhood memories are extremely important. First it's a desk, then the entire room .Some don't EVER want to revisit , but others need to. Why is that a problem?
He didn’t even ask if it’s okay to start moving Rory’s stuff out. He just came right in and wanted to take over the room. Yes I know his daughter needed to have the room and rory and Lorelei need to know that things are going to change the but just the way he did that was so annoying.
@@smurfyday I wouldn’t call him horrible. He is just extremely immature. I guess he just thought that since Rory is graduating she wouldn’t come back. That’s probably all he thought about. She might visit sometimes. I don’t know
I love that I hate Christoper, and I see so much of Rory in him. it just makes me think, ya I liked Rory and Logan as a couple, but if those two Actually had a kid together, and got all their bad traits, it would be an unstoppable monster
@@lauriecarson6483 Luke is Rory's real daughter, I mean, the real message of the show is that even though Luke isn't her blood, Luke raised her, like gave Rory and Lorelei free meals when they first moved to stars hollow, but actually Rory is in fact his biological daughter and Lorelei lied about it to Christopher so she wouldn't be alone, even though it backfired (maybe why she didn't want to get married when they were older), the only two people in the show that we know of that have photographic memories are Rory and April, and Luke spends all his time caring for others the same way Rory does, it was in front of our face the whole time. In the episode where they valentine's at Logan's summer place in Martha's Vineyard, Luke and Lorelei said they both hung out on the same beach when they were teenagers, I think that is where they met and Lorelei got pregnant and lied and said it was Christopher's. I was team jess, but it looks like they are cousins, and that's why they are both so smart and get along so well. also Rory, Paris, and Lane are Trans men, Rory was actually in love with Lane the whole time (watch her wedding video), and Paris knew the whole time. Also, not only is the fan theory that the show is the embellished book of Rory's life true,, but also Lorelei knew she was going to do it the whole time. Also Logan and Jess are gay, they both just wanted everyone think they were straight so they always made a scene about it, and Logan fell in love with Jess the night they met, you can tell because episodes later you can see Logan styled his hair after Jess's old hair cut (maybe he stalked some of Rory's old photos?)
@@lauriecarson6483 also, ironically Luke is a Gilmore and Lorelei is not. You think Lorelei got Richard's eyes but she actually got her mother's ears. Rory is going to abandon her child (like sherry did) then after Logan raised the baby she will lie and say it is Jess's , and if he cant learn to love a child that he thought was not his the way Luke did, then he will find out it was Jess's child and he will regret that he abused the child of the love of his life
This scene makes me flinch. I know that it kind of gets worked out, and the discomfort is kind of the point, but just seeing how disjointed their were in the plans for merging their lives together is so uncomfortable. There are children involved! I know that Lorelai was in a vulnerable place and swept up in the romance of being Paris, but it's not like the wedding was literally yesterday! Lorelai knows that Christopher has a kid. He is a package deal now, he comes with a small child who needs to have a space to exist in their home, and Lorelai wanting this very small child to grow up in a room that couldn't be HERS, that needed to be kept just as Rory left it, was not practical. At best, running with her suggestion here, leaving Rory's stuff out would mean that it would likely be stained or damaged in some way. That line about leaving everything up as something for Gigi to "aspire to," in other words have Gigi live in the shadow of her sister, unable put her own things on the shelves or replace the Yale paraphernalia with posters or anything of her own, because her grown adult sister might swing by for the weekend and expect to be comfortable in what should have been GIGI'S bedroom? Oh boy, psychological number that would have done on her. And I know that Christopher didn't approach it great in here either---with how he's just casually springing into motion rather than introducing the ideas first, but oof. It's such a reflection of how little thought was put into the marriage, which is something no single parent---looking at Lorelai and Christopher here---should ever just breeze into.
It was Rory’s room first. Yes Gigi needed a place to put her things and she shouldn’t be compared to Rory in any way, shape or form. Just because Rory moved out doesn’t mean she doesn’t need to have a room to come back to. It will seem like they are replacing her and that isn’t right either. I agree that they didn’t think about joining in their two families together. Chris just can’t start taking out Rory’s things and expect her to be okay with it without asking if she would be cool with sharing her room with Gigi.
Chris should have asked Rory first if he can move her things. He didn't have the right to take Rory stuff out without discussing it with her. Yes, Gigi needed a room but where is Rory going to stay when she comes visit on the weekend. So I don't agree with you
So a year ago she was complaining to Luke about how April needs to fit into their lives not the other way around, but when she marries Chris she worries about accommodating Rory, a grown woman,, into her married life. Hypocritical don't ya think?
Lorelai didn't want Rory to feel like she was being kicked out of her own room. Chris had no right to take Rory stuff out without talking to Rory first. Yes, Rory wasn't living there but its was still her room and Chris needed to respect that. As soon as Lorelai talked to Rory Lorelai was fine with it. So how is that being hypocritical.
@@lauriecarson6483 he didn't even think of including Rory in the wedding, he just seemed to want rush everything like them being married, having a room set up for Gigi, moving out of Stars Hollow, etc... would mean his life was secure. It kinda felt like he wanted Lorelei in his world but didn't to be a part of hers.
@@Quirkyalonester I agree with you I can't stand Chris. But I don't think Lorelai was a hypocrite at all she wanted to be in April's life and include her in things.
Lorelai wanted to be in April's life and include her in things. Nothing wrong with Lorelai waiting to ask for Rory to share her room with Gigi she is being respectful unlike Chris.
Ok, so I hate Chris and I hate Lorelai with Chris but he's completely right here. I mean poor Gigi! Lorelai just expects her to basically be a guest in her own bedroom? There just going to leave all of Rory's stuff in there and Gigi get's nothing of her own? Poor kid! Plus, if Rory "ended up back at home" well then where the hell is Gigi going to sleep? This is a 2 bedroom house. It's not big enough for Rory to move back in with Chris and Gigi there.
Its Rory's house from the begenning. Chris acted like he wanted to kick Rory out. Rory had every right to visit. Chris should have talked to Lorelai and Rory first he has no right to change everything in the house.
@@lauriecarson6483 Not at this instant but only because she was temporarily vising her mom in France but she would have been. She lived with Chris full time.
@@lauriecarson6483 But that's the thing it's not Rory's house anymore. She moved out. Yea there probably should've been more communication from all of them but it's not out of line for Chris to assume that now that he and Lorelai are married that Gigi would be moving into the only other bedroom in the house. Especially since it's not being used most of the time (summers, if that) by Rory. Seriously where the hell did Lorelai think Gigi was going to live? Oh that's right she didn't think, like normal.
@@loveGG3 it doesn't matter Chris had no right talking Rory stuff out of her room without asking. Just because she didn't live there anymore its still her room. Lorelai has every right to stop him. And as soon as Lorelai talked to Rory about it she was okay with talking stuff out. Lorelai didn't want Rory to feel like she was being kicked out. You may think Lorelai was being selfish but she wasn't. How would you feel if your dad or mom took everything put of your room without telling you and put someone in there. You wouldn't like it. Chris needed to ask first instead of assuming Rory would be okay with it.
That so I felt when I found out the Corona virus was going on I felt like the rug was being ripped out from underneath because I don't like being alone and I like to do big gatherings in there wasn't a big gathering and Thanksgiving
Chris is SO MANIPULATIVE, sulking when he doesn’t get his way, twisting every point Lorelai makes, she was always walking on eggshells around him, she never fully consented to anything he did in this season. He was always so destructive and childish I hate him so much.
Facts.
The difference between Luke as a father and Christopher as a father...
Sad thing is Luke didnt know his for tweleve years yet he managed to pick up from the off and be an amazing father to her and understood her, Christopher's excuse of not knowing Rory is rubbish, if he wanted to get to know her he could, he just never really cared enough to do it.Regardless of how old she was he could have changed his realtionship with her, sadly Rory was only baggage to him.
And Luke wouldn't take Rory stuff out of her room without talking to her first.
Luke invite Rory to the wedding to her mum with Chris he just take Lori to France to marriage her without Rory and even asking her if it's ok
Luke and Lorelai's relationship always includes Rory and they put her way ahead in their relationship. Chris puts Lorelai first way ahead of Rory.
this is kind of ironic - christopher isn't in love with gigi's mother, yet has taken the reigns on fatherhood for their child (as he should) meanwhile he is in love with lorelai, yet never fully took the time to get to know rory and be the father she deserves
*reins
Ahhhhh, Luke calling April sweetie is so adorable!
I swear when I was watching this scene first I exactly felt like Lorelei! Christopher never really felt like a father to Rory did he!
"I'm her father, we are married now." Pardon, were you NOT Rory's (absentee) father before marrying Lorelai? 'If she needs money we will help her out.' Just tossing money instead of solving an actual problem, great parenting.
That how Chris's brain works he thinks money solves everything.
@@lauriecarson6483 Which is fair, it's how Richard's does too. Its how Richard is able to express love. But Chris hasn't done that UNTIL he had money to burn.
@@dietdrpepper15 True
plus chris is like im her father its like where were u when she was growing up - he rly shouldnt get to have a say
bro lorelai looks like she feels stuck bc chris is kinda replacing rory with gigi
He was. He didn't care that much for Rory.
In glad Lorelai stopped him from taking all of Rory's stuff out.
Her kid is graduating from college, they've got a kid together now that's living at home. Gigi deserves to have her own space, not "something to aspire to". Saying that makes it sound like Gigi would constantly be compared to Rory growing up. Having her stay in a room that belonged to their kid that's grown and moved out and not being able to make it her own is unfair. Really, it just sounds like Lorelai doesn't care for Gigi.
@@abigaillin6635 she only saying to Chris was not to take any of Rory stuff out of they room without talking to her first. Chris didn't need to take everything out. And as soon as Lorelai talk to To Rory about it she was okay with it. If Lorelai didn't care about Gigi she wouldn't have suggested that Gigi can paint the room. At least Lorelai was concern how Rory would feel about it. Grown up or not that's still Rory's room rather then fans like it or not.
@@abigaillin6635 Chris and Lorelai didn't have Gigi together
Luke vs Christopher being a dad…. The difference is huge!! And how a bad dad Christopher was trying to transform Rory’s bedroom… I really hate him…
the juggling speech haha
April kissing one of her girl friends... sike Luke
Lmao I literally thought the same thing. "Sure dad. I won't juggle with boys. 😏"
Lorelei was ALWAYS right about Chris. He isn't mature and was never ready to be a parent. Many parents just RULE over their kids. Taking away their personal stuff and alienating them from their family. Our childhood memories are extremely important. First it's a desk, then the entire room .Some don't EVER want to revisit , but others need to. Why is that a problem?
He didn’t even ask if it’s okay to start moving Rory’s stuff out. He just came right in and wanted to take over the room. Yes I know his daughter needed to have the room and rory and Lorelei need to know that things are going to change the but just the way he did that was so annoying.
@@malloryweeks3306 I don't know how many like Chris. Such a horrible person. So do they like that kind of stuff?
@@smurfyday I wouldn’t call him horrible. He is just extremely immature. I guess he just thought that since Rory is graduating she wouldn’t come back. That’s probably all he thought about. She might visit sometimes. I don’t know
@@malloryweeks3306 he didn't ask Rory of it was okay. He must took over the house like he paid for it.
@@lauriecarson6483 exactly
I love that I hate Christoper, and I see so much of Rory in him. it just makes me think, ya I liked Rory and Logan as a couple, but if those two Actually had a kid together, and got all their bad traits, it would be an unstoppable monster
so you think Rory is going to abandan her child like Chris did to her. no she is not like Chris at all.
@@lauriecarson6483 Luke is Rory's real daughter, I mean, the real message of the show is that even though Luke isn't her blood, Luke raised her, like gave Rory and Lorelei free meals when they first moved to stars hollow, but actually Rory is in fact his biological daughter and Lorelei lied about it to Christopher so she wouldn't be alone, even though it backfired (maybe why she didn't want to get married when they were older), the only two people in the show that we know of that have photographic memories are Rory and April, and Luke spends all his time caring for others the same way Rory does, it was in front of our face the whole time. In the episode where they valentine's at Logan's summer place in Martha's Vineyard, Luke and Lorelei said they both hung out on the same beach when they were teenagers, I think that is where they met and Lorelei got pregnant and lied and said it was Christopher's. I was team jess, but it looks like they are cousins, and that's why they are both so smart and get along so well. also Rory, Paris, and Lane are Trans men, Rory was actually in love with Lane the whole time (watch her wedding video), and Paris knew the whole time. Also, not only is the fan theory that the show is the embellished book of Rory's life true,, but also Lorelei knew she was going to do it the whole time. Also Logan and Jess are gay, they both just wanted everyone think they were straight so they always made a scene about it, and Logan fell in love with Jess the night they met, you can tell because episodes later you can see Logan styled his hair after Jess's old hair cut (maybe he stalked some of Rory's old photos?)
@@PhilospherDjPsychologist24 I watch the show thanks I know what Luke did for Rory
@@lauriecarson6483 ya , Lorelei did it too, I guess it runs in her family, that's why April's mom freaked out after her party
@@lauriecarson6483 also, ironically Luke is a Gilmore and Lorelei is not. You think Lorelei got Richard's eyes but she actually got her mother's ears. Rory is going to abandon her child (like sherry did) then after Logan raised the baby she will lie and say it is Jess's , and if he cant learn to love a child that he thought was not his the way Luke did, then he will find out it was Jess's child and he will regret that he abused the child of the love of his life
This scene makes me flinch. I know that it kind of gets worked out, and the discomfort is kind of the point, but just seeing how disjointed their were in the plans for merging their lives together is so uncomfortable. There are children involved! I know that Lorelai was in a vulnerable place and swept up in the romance of being Paris, but it's not like the wedding was literally yesterday! Lorelai knows that Christopher has a kid. He is a package deal now, he comes with a small child who needs to have a space to exist in their home, and Lorelai wanting this very small child to grow up in a room that couldn't be HERS, that needed to be kept just as Rory left it, was not practical. At best, running with her suggestion here, leaving Rory's stuff out would mean that it would likely be stained or damaged in some way. That line about leaving everything up as something for Gigi to "aspire to," in other words have Gigi live in the shadow of her sister, unable put her own things on the shelves or replace the Yale paraphernalia with posters or anything of her own, because her grown adult sister might swing by for the weekend and expect to be comfortable in what should have been GIGI'S bedroom? Oh boy, psychological number that would have done on her. And I know that Christopher didn't approach it great in here either---with how he's just casually springing into motion rather than introducing the ideas first, but oof. It's such a reflection of how little thought was put into the marriage, which is something no single parent---looking at Lorelai and Christopher here---should ever just breeze into.
It was Rory’s room first. Yes Gigi needed a place to put her things and she shouldn’t be compared to Rory in any way, shape or form. Just because Rory moved out doesn’t mean she doesn’t need to have a room to come back to. It will seem like they are replacing her and that isn’t right either. I agree that they didn’t think about joining in their two families together. Chris just can’t start taking out Rory’s things and expect her to be okay with it without asking if she would be cool with sharing her room with Gigi.
Chris should have asked Rory first if he can move her things. He didn't have the right to take Rory stuff out without discussing it with her. Yes, Gigi needed a room but where is Rory going to stay when she comes visit on the weekend. So I don't agree with you
"I don’t think you're ready"
"How?"
"Well *I'M* not ready"
Lol Luke and April are funny
A "lorelai" nunca le gusta los cambios...
So a year ago she was complaining to Luke about how April needs to fit into their lives not the other way around, but when she marries Chris she worries about accommodating Rory, a grown woman,, into her married life. Hypocritical don't ya think?
Not really.
Lorelai didn't want Rory to feel like she was being kicked out of her own room. Chris had no right to take Rory stuff out without talking to Rory first. Yes, Rory wasn't living there but its was still her room and Chris needed to respect that. As soon as Lorelai talked to Rory Lorelai was fine with it. So how is that being hypocritical.
@@lauriecarson6483 he didn't even think of including Rory in the wedding, he just seemed to want rush everything like them being married, having a room set up for Gigi, moving out of Stars Hollow, etc... would mean his life was secure. It kinda felt like he wanted Lorelei in his world but didn't to be a part of hers.
@@Quirkyalonester I agree with you I can't stand Chris. But I don't think Lorelai was a hypocrite at all she wanted to be in April's life and include her in things.
Lorelai wanted to be in April's life and include her in things. Nothing wrong with Lorelai waiting to ask for Rory to share her room with Gigi she is being respectful unlike Chris.
Ok, so I hate Chris and I hate Lorelai with Chris but he's completely right here. I mean poor Gigi! Lorelai just expects her to basically be a guest in her own bedroom? There just going to leave all of Rory's stuff in there and Gigi get's nothing of her own? Poor kid! Plus, if Rory "ended up back at home" well then where the hell is Gigi going to sleep? This is a 2 bedroom house. It's not big enough for Rory to move back in with Chris and Gigi there.
Its Rory's house from the begenning. Chris acted like he wanted to kick Rory out. Rory had every right to visit. Chris should have talked to Lorelai and Rory first he has no right to change everything in the house.
Gigi wasn't even living there
@@lauriecarson6483 Not at this instant but only because she was temporarily vising her mom in France but she would have been. She lived with Chris full time.
@@lauriecarson6483 But that's the thing it's not Rory's house anymore. She moved out. Yea there probably should've been more communication from all of them but it's not out of line for Chris to assume that now that he and Lorelai are married that Gigi would be moving into the only other bedroom in the house. Especially since it's not being used most of the time (summers, if that) by Rory. Seriously where the hell did Lorelai think Gigi was going to live? Oh that's right she didn't think, like normal.
@@loveGG3 it doesn't matter Chris had no right talking Rory stuff out of her room without asking. Just because she didn't live there anymore its still her room. Lorelai has every right to stop him. And as soon as Lorelai talked to Rory about it she was okay with talking stuff out. Lorelai didn't want Rory to feel like she was being kicked out. You may think Lorelai was being selfish but she wasn't. How would you feel if your dad or mom took everything put of your room without telling you and put someone in there. You wouldn't like it. Chris needed to ask first instead of assuming Rory would be okay with it.
She got in my nerves here.
Who?
Why
Chris got on my nerves. Thinking just because they are married he can change Lorelai's house around. Sorry it don't work like that.
You know i laugh how fans gives no information on how Lorelai gets on their nerves. Please explain.
GG what?
Chris’s daughter Gigi. She’s his daughter from his ex-wife
That so I felt when I found out the Corona virus was going on I felt like the rug was being ripped out from underneath because I don't like being alone and I like to do big gatherings in there wasn't a big gathering and Thanksgiving
Be happy you're alive. A lot of people had to go to work and die.
@@smurfyday omg thanks that fixes everything!
@@somenamelastnaammee52 Not trying to, entitled dummy
I can't even work until phase 3
When phase 3