Clayton discovered these loops awhile ago but dropped Goku before finding anything practical. This cool dude Kye Person ruclips.net/video/EBBdSKeq0-k/видео.html made them into something useable. (He also found way more routes than me) Verdane used these routes in a fight, which Fredchuckdave uploaded, which I then saw and stole.
Not gonna lie if it's a combo besides auto combos clayton 90% of the time probably came up with it. Lmao Only problem with him is he doesn't really do videos explaining how to do them.
Ki blast isnt delayed but auto combo is. It has similar timing to a max delay Base Vegeta ki blast loop (If that helps). Def not a 1 frame link, after about 20 min of practice I could do it 75% of the time in practice, which is way to high a success rate for it to be so tight.
This video is outdated and shouldn't be taken seriously anymore. It had some unfortunate timings because it was released very close to the last patch nerfing double super and before air dragon rush got the sliding knockdown.
@@Shekina-0 it does, but this combos with double super are no longer optimal because the second super does ~1/3 of the damage it used to do. If you want max damage for 2 bars you do pretty much the same but instead of the air super you go for a vanish into dragon rush into warp Kamehameha or land and lvl3.
Anyone capable of pulling off these loops is someone who knows the game well enough to know Gokus double super got nerfed. "Shouldnt be taken seriously" is a strange thing to say since the point of the video is to show that Ki Blast loops exist and some basic BnBs with them. Besides ki loops are so universal you can litterally just toss them into any midscreen BnB and they will work, so the exact BnBs here being accurate or not to the current patch is irrelevant.
@@zuites1274 I wasn't talking about the new extension not being taken seriously just this specific video in general which is outdated because of the patch, like I said before the timing with that patch was unfortunate and people should know that this is outdated and NOT OPTIMAL. This is so people are informed: the last patch (1.14 the one that came with videl an jiren) the changes to dragon rush and the double super damage Nerf made this video obsolete in general. This is everything wrong to date with this video: The first BNB (only works midscreen if you reach the corner before the new extension then you cant add that part) should not end with angled super that is worthless in the current game. You finish with the dragon flash fist (236L) for Oki or with a Kamehameha vanish dragon rush for double bar max damage finishing with warp kamehameha. Because now DR in the air gives sliding knockdown it is superior to the 236L does more damage and doesn't need any delays if your combo is scaled. The optimal lvl3 route would be for 3 bars the Oki variation I explained earlier or for 4 bars the double bar variation just changing the warp Kamehameha for a landing and lvl3. Already explained why the scaled variation you showed isn't the way to go. Meterless BNB is the only combo and the variation that ends with auto combo are the only thing that holds to date and they are 2 minutes into the video after a couple outdated combos that nobody should use anymore.
Bnb= bread and butter. The 7 is based on on the numeric pad, the one used in a calculator. That is to represent the direction you are going to hold. 7l means press the light attack while holding up and left
@@rogeliogarza4441 how is a casual like me supposed to know that lol. Its too confusing. Down, up, left, right is much simpler... Who decided the numeric pad was the universal language? Was there a meeting or vote?
@@Xizziano lol for a casual it is harder to understand. When I started to play this game I was like wtf are all these numbers. But later when you understand is way easier than saying neutral light to down medium to left heavy
@@rogeliogarza4441 in that defemse i wouldn't say neutral. I'd say Neutral light as just Light/L. Down or crouching Heavy is just DH. Instead of left heavy id say Back heavy or BH.
Clayton discovered these loops awhile ago but dropped Goku before finding anything practical. This cool dude Kye Person ruclips.net/video/EBBdSKeq0-k/видео.html made them into something useable. (He also found way more routes than me) Verdane used these routes in a fight, which Fredchuckdave uploaded, which I then saw and stole.
Damn, just when I thought Goku had finally been figured out 100% and there was no way to squeeze more from him. Very cool for sure!
Me too 😰✨🔥
CLAYTON HAS SPOKEN
This is pretty old but still cool to watch
Wait, scaled j.236L doesn't give a sliding kd? This is the first time I see this.
Any tips on getting the S to connect after 7L? It always drops for me
after 7 L , u must delay L , then s is easy to connect
Isn't this from Clayton? btw you can do M L S in your jump in :3
Probably, but I saw Verdane do it and just labbed out some optimals.
Not gonna lie if it's a combo besides auto combos clayton 90% of the time probably came up with it. Lmao
Only problem with him is he doesn't really do videos explaining how to do them.
Actually it was me, Clayton even credits me in his description.
Description updated. Thankyou.
@@kyeperson8041 my bad, sorry ;_;
good, i guess for a vanish combo its the same?
How awkward is it this tech came out so close to that damage getting hit?
Question, do these loops not work in the corner? I've gotten them to connect consistently midscreen but not once in the corner.
are you guys delaying the first auto combo - ki blast in the air? Cant seem to get the second to connect. Or is this just a 1 frame link.
Ki blast isnt delayed but auto combo is. It has similar timing to a max delay Base Vegeta ki blast loop (If that helps). Def not a 1 frame link, after about 20 min of practice I could do it 75% of the time in practice, which is way to high a success rate for it to be so tight.
I actually think it is the same cause he has the same loops except for he cant 236L cause of obvious reasons.
So on a side note what color cell was that
jason garcia Christmas cell I think
I thought you can’t do double supers with him anymore with the new patch?
You can it's just not worth it anymore
Yeah I forgot the scaling was increased.
Does anyone know if Goku Black can do a similar loop?
No bud he can't
No only base and ssj
Feelsblackman
rip
This video is outdated and shouldn't be taken seriously anymore. It had some unfortunate timings because it was released very close to the last patch nerfing double super and before air dragon rush got the sliding knockdown.
So the extra ki blast extension does not do more dmg?
@@Shekina-0 it does, but this combos with double super are no longer optimal because the second super does ~1/3 of the damage it used to do. If you want max damage for 2 bars you do pretty much the same but instead of the air super you go for a vanish into dragon rush into warp Kamehameha or land and lvl3.
Yeah the double super nerf is pretty tragic imo. As soon as I saw the combo I knew it was pre patch
Anyone capable of pulling off these loops is someone who knows the game well enough to know Gokus double super got nerfed. "Shouldnt be taken seriously" is a strange thing to say since the point of the video is to show that Ki Blast loops exist and some basic BnBs with them. Besides ki loops are so universal you can litterally just toss them into any midscreen BnB and they will work, so the exact BnBs here being accurate or not to the current patch is irrelevant.
@@zuites1274 I wasn't talking about the new extension not being taken seriously just this specific video in general which is outdated because of the patch, like I said before the timing with that patch was unfortunate and people should know that this is outdated and NOT OPTIMAL.
This is so people are informed: the last patch (1.14 the one that came with videl an jiren) the changes to dragon rush and the double super damage Nerf made this video obsolete in general.
This is everything wrong to date with this video:
The first BNB (only works midscreen if you reach the corner before the new extension then you cant add that part) should not end with angled super that is worthless in the current game. You finish with the dragon flash fist (236L) for Oki or with a Kamehameha vanish dragon rush for double bar max damage finishing with warp kamehameha. Because now DR in the air gives sliding knockdown it is superior to the 236L does more damage and doesn't need any delays if your combo is scaled.
The optimal lvl3 route would be for 3 bars the Oki variation I explained earlier or for 4 bars the double bar variation just changing the warp Kamehameha for a landing and lvl3.
Already explained why the scaled variation you showed isn't the way to go.
Meterless BNB is the only combo and the variation that ends with auto combo are the only thing that holds to date and they are 2 minutes into the video after a couple outdated combos that nobody should use anymore.
So now he got the most damaging BNB of the game
vegito.
nope, patched
vegito in corner can get about 7k damage meterless
Fruitdragon lol no, vegito can get like 6.3k alone and 1meter
Tf is 7L? And BnB? Can you use English?
Do a research on fighting games abbreviations
Bnb= bread and butter. The 7 is based on on the numeric pad, the one used in a calculator. That is to represent the direction you are going to hold. 7l means press the light attack while holding up and left
@@rogeliogarza4441 how is a casual like me supposed to know that lol. Its too confusing. Down, up, left, right is much simpler... Who decided the numeric pad was the universal language? Was there a meeting or vote?
@@Xizziano lol for a casual it is harder to understand. When I started to play this game I was like wtf are all these numbers. But later when you understand is way easier than saying neutral light to down medium to left heavy
@@rogeliogarza4441 in that defemse i wouldn't say neutral. I'd say Neutral light as just Light/L.
Down or crouching Heavy is just DH.
Instead of left heavy id say Back heavy or BH.