TANKING WITH METAMORPHOSIS! | Project Ascension S8 | Classless World of Warcraft | Progression

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @canadiann00b86
    @canadiann00b86 Год назад +35

    Make sure you pick up the talent that increases your threat by 300% while in metamorphosis(Demonic Resilience), could definitely be the reason why you were having a hard time keeping threat cause once you have that I haven't noticed anyone coming close to grabbing threat from me or getting threat to begin with.
    Edit: Metamorphosis for some reason shows that you still have a parry and block chance while in that form, this is a visual bug, you can ONLY dodge while in Meta, so any talent increasing your parry chance that you took is absolutely worthless unfortunately.

    • @ngaisein
      @ngaisein Год назад

      What is the name of that talent? Why can i not find it?

    • @canadiann00b86
      @canadiann00b86 Год назад +1

      @@ngaisein it’s in my comment already Demonic Resilience. For some reason ascension doesn’t show it on the talent itself (probably visual bug) but it does indeed increase threat by 300%. Ive used it and tested it already, at the time I was using it the talent did show the increase but after one of their updates of course they somehow messed it up.

    • @zacpavey
      @zacpavey Год назад

      @@canadiann00b86 Not a visual bug on the talent, threat from the old version of Demonic Resilience has been made baseline in Dark Apotheosis.

    • @canadiann00b86
      @canadiann00b86 Год назад +1

      @@zacpavey confirmed it has not yet been implemented, they took it off the tooltip and are going to be making it baseline but as of today it wasn’t changed yet.

    • @Mcdoubles
      @Mcdoubles  Год назад +1

      Yeah I had the talent every step of the way in this video. It just didn't give threat anymore. I remember from my old meta videos that it did.

  • @Yarsito
    @Yarsito Год назад +7

    The Metamorphosis issue is also present for Beast Mastery builds, you're pretty much required to roll Bestial Wrath, and even though it isn't a lvl 60 talent in my experience it is still way too rare for a legendary that requires Tame Beast

    • @desertranger82
      @desertranger82 Год назад

      You don't need bestial wrath at all, it only last 6 seconds, most of the time you won't be using it

  • @canadiann00b86
    @canadiann00b86 Год назад +2

    Just wanted to confirm that yes you do NOT have to buy the 3 items at the end to talk to the dreadsteed. Saves a good amount of gold.

  • @michaelhausler1073
    @michaelhausler1073 Год назад +1

    funni thing is i do since last weekend in ur guild an unbounded deathbringer caster tank with righeous furi, main talents are soul leech fel concentration siphon life, as epics i use pestilence for dot based aoe selfheal from corruption, same with flame surged incinerate as follow up after pestilence and then refresh pestilence before corruption ticks out, and for singletarget corruption and vampiric touch, devouring plague shadowword pain then spam shadowbolt then refresh all except for corupption who get refreshed from shadowbolt, and thats it i dont use dodge block parri and i am nearli unkillable from damage selfheal^^ i bring the scaling from shadowblot to 81% from corruption to 75% and from incinerate to 76% spelldamage scaling, its an off tank spec with mainstat int a one handed weapon and a shield and with int stam spirit gear and spelldamage talent for int and spirit so i can later have 27% of int as spelldamage 30% OF STAMINA as spelldamage and 24% OF spirit as spelldamage, int spelldamage then buffed extra with enchant lunar guidance with the same talent and mind masteri, and spirit student of the mind talend and fierce mind enchant, oh and demonic knowledge for 15% more SPELLDAMAGE from demons intellect^^ (charactername Xyzquogiw)^^

  • @ThePigeonsNest
    @ThePigeonsNest Год назад

    I just love the fact that you are a troll in heart wherever you go and whatever you do. Specially in Battlegrounds. Always fun to watch :D - Pigeon

  • @jacobhoehn2812
    @jacobhoehn2812 Год назад +1

    Can't wait for all the videos thank you and keep up the great work!

  • @tremayne4351
    @tremayne4351 Год назад

    Big cred to you my man for sticking it out with this one! Lol. We all love you for it, thats why we keep watching. Cant wait to see the next one! - Palengray

  • @MasahiroDarkwood
    @MasahiroDarkwood Год назад

    Sad to see this build not work the way you wanted for the video, but good none the less. Keep up the great work and hope to see you on the field. Phang

  • @Unholy_sun
    @Unholy_sun Год назад

    these types of videos are the thing that makes me want to keep playing - it's cause there is so much that i don't know that exists yet that i am still trying to find. - Sunarrow

  • @tandridm6798
    @tandridm6798 Год назад +1

    0:46 man did not let that slide

  • @Matchoochannel
    @Matchoochannel Год назад

    hey man love all your content, keep on being awesome! I learn so much from you! I really just have to say thank you very much!
    Royalbeast

  • @thedrizzle5556
    @thedrizzle5556 Год назад

    Been wanting to try this one but I don’t like tanking higher content to much so it would be just a leveling mythic 0 kinda thing for me but seems pretty cool. Great video yo. TheDrizzle

  • @deathbunny45
    @deathbunny45 Год назад +1

    I gotta say your commitment to fully trying out a build is something crazy, I've given up on a build after one reroll lol

  • @Wowzombie15
    @Wowzombie15 Год назад +1

    I wanted to mention lava lash works with metamorphosis - Serpentahn, thrall

  • @GKSonick
    @GKSonick Год назад

    Thanks for trying out this build. Does need a bit of updates but maybe it could work out. - Fearce

  • @levichristensen5729
    @levichristensen5729 Год назад

    Thanks for all the videos you do I am sure it’s hard keeping us all entertained but thanks. Damo.

  • @samsprouts1404
    @samsprouts1404 Год назад

    Great video loving the consistent content too! You mentioned ESO in a previous video an I’ve been playing a lot of it lately myself and fell in love with the dragon knight, I’d love to see you build a DK ESO themed class man!

    • @samsprouts1404
      @samsprouts1404 Год назад

      I’ve just realised I didn’t explain why I thought of this idea other than your previous eso comments, the “boring” part of this build, fire mainly mixed with the Templar knight and whatever else you can piece together will make for a awesome video!

  • @catbert316
    @catbert316 Год назад

    Always like seeing how you go about building a diff version than the norm. I had the same issues with mana and threat. The unbound drain life would have been neat but for some reason they nerfed that to hell and back. Cap at 5 fine but -25% healing on top of it. Ascension - classless play what you want but not really....

  • @lamMeTV
    @lamMeTV Год назад

    Thank you for taking one for the team trying out the bad builds -IamMe

  • @frederikvdh
    @frederikvdh Год назад +1

    Loving the ascension content man! Keep it up

  • @kevinbellini4767
    @kevinbellini4767 Год назад

    Unlucky not winning the Binding! Keep up the good work! - Xaquillen

  • @supersoaker317
    @supersoaker317 Год назад

    I really do love how you kept trying to make a metamorphosis tank work and now ascension finally made one. -zuggyzugkek on thrall

  • @mandrson09
    @mandrson09 Год назад

    Thanks for saving me the gold on this one, still looks fun but with so many cool new Enchants I’ll try something else. -Lubu

  • @NateDynamite
    @NateDynamite Год назад

    Thanks for the quality content McDad

  • @Ziptomba
    @Ziptomba Год назад +2

    Ayo I would KILL to watch a hardcore classic run from you! I've been wanting to do so myself, this would be great motivation to do so

  • @undeadgun863
    @undeadgun863 Год назад +1

    Saw you going for steward of eternity in western plaguelands can't wait to see you play it before I try to grind out the arcane crystals - Undeed

    • @zometthecomet
      @zometthecomet Год назад

      I built mari’s steward and it is great

    • @undeadgun863
      @undeadgun863 Год назад

      @Zometthecomet gaming guess I'm leveling up mining skill cause I'm not spending 100 gold per crystal

  • @bonkyouded
    @bonkyouded Год назад

    i think one RE you need is the one where you use sinster strike you apply corruption to mods around you, then picking the talent that heals you do the damage corruption deals

  • @thephlegmmaster78
    @thephlegmmaster78 Год назад

    You just publish this video, and I got grouped with MetaTank :D I actually thought it is you :) Mcdgw

  • @hexcyclone4883
    @hexcyclone4883 Год назад

    There's a Talent that allows you to gain mana when you get healed and with a dedicated healer you could probably keep up the Immolation aura but it would be best to have some sort of life gain for the build itself. Also the Paladin Stance with Stam as spell. So Righteous Fury, with spiritual Attunement. Another way to keep mana up would be to stack with combo points and Meditate as well.

    • @Kronosxviii1
      @Kronosxviii1 Год назад +1

      Typically you can't use forms and stances together, so I doubt that combo will work. Spiritual Attunement and Meditate would work though.

  • @permavirgin3595
    @permavirgin3595 Год назад +1

    I'm interested in your hardcore classic wow series :-))

  • @Dinvalforever
    @Dinvalforever Год назад

    I have been putting off trying this spec just for the jankieness I have been hearing. I hope it get fixed because of this video. Great work man thank you for all your videos. xD!!! -Krumbull

  • @weswolaski2877
    @weswolaski2877 Год назад

    Woo! Been waiting for this one!

  • @JordanManary
    @JordanManary Год назад

    Despite the shortcomings, this still looks awesome and I want to give it a try. I suspect by the time I get to it, some of the shortcomings will have been addressed. Hopefully they will change Growing Corruption to spread to all targets hit by the explosion as well.
    - Atis

  • @disturbedx1000
    @disturbedx1000 Год назад

    hey McD, Razier here, One thing I wish you'd help bring to devs attention... the DEALERS DECK. If someone has it, instead of spending 10 to 40 mins rerolling for the perfect start, it should just let the player instantly pick the 1st 4 skills (Or pet type and 1 skill) to start out with right away. I'm very limited on my time to play due to work, and I love presteiging, however it sucks when the first 25 mins on average is just trying to reroll for the 4 skills I need to start. Idk how it's gone on for all these years without just allowing us to pick 4 right away. (Again just with the dealers deck)

  • @patrickrule7779
    @patrickrule7779 Год назад

    I love all the builds you sent out Randomly stumbled upon you when looking for a dark ranger build - Mikayal

  • @Omgapotatoegames
    @Omgapotatoegames Год назад

    Hey man love the vids heard you don't like asking people to give you money in one of em but that you needed more supporters so I dropped you 2 bucks a month stay humble and keep making the great videos I hope more people throw you a few bucks 💜

  • @Wrizzla
    @Wrizzla Год назад

    Hell yeah, currently playing with a friend that uses this Enchant. Its alot of fun running Dungeons with him. Im boring, i just play Consecrated Strikes xD -Wrizzlax

  • @RawrIAmWinning
    @RawrIAmWinning Год назад +1

    Been waiting for an RE to do this for a long long time, insane to me that they didn't consider literally just adding a threat mod to the RE. Here's hoping for a quick fix, really wanna play it. - Walruswizard @Thrall out

  • @ericboudreau6402
    @ericboudreau6402 Год назад

    Empowered Fire from the mage tree will let you get 2% base mana every time Ignite deals damage, and you only need 1 point in Ignite. Cheers. - Eric

  • @doriofran
    @doriofran Год назад +1

    @McDoubles There is a talent in the demonic warlock tree that you have to take thw increases your threat Gen in meta, I run it and have no issues keeping threat. I also run spiritual attunement for mana and brilliance aura, never really struggle for mana

    • @clintburkholder7469
      @clintburkholder7469 Год назад

      Which talent? not seeing it at all in the demo tree

    • @doriofran
      @doriofran Год назад

      Guess they changed the talent and are going to make the threat baseline but haven't implemented it. It was demonic resilience

  • @darkphase7799
    @darkphase7799 Год назад

    Love the vid's. Pitty the build didn't work out the way you thought, an aoe drain tank could be so cool. Thanks for introducing me to the game (I am still a noob at it lol) Richu - Thrall

  • @ToxicLetsPlay
    @ToxicLetsPlay Год назад

    I feel your pain with not getting Meta. I had to prestige 8 times to finally get Starfall for my Knight of the Eclipse build. I am so happy that I finally got it. It feels great to be able to actually play now but the two months it took to complete 8 prestiges do give it a bitter aftertaste. - Valyssia

    • @perrylee8998
      @perrylee8998 Год назад

      Any good results with your Build?

  • @braidenbannister3877
    @braidenbannister3877 Год назад

    woot for hardcore WoW! I think you'll have a ton of fun on it and if you max out I can only imagine the fear in raids lol.

  • @nickcornacchiulo2667
    @nickcornacchiulo2667 Год назад

    Gotta hate the rng, but still such a cool build I love the idea of being unkillable in pvp like you showed early in the video. I love any sort of form change so being able to sustain meta and tank in it with the wings and all is sick! - Brogrg

  • @Dvnstrt
    @Dvnstrt Год назад

    Big thumbs up for the role play walk

  • @ArkadyTsepesh0
    @ArkadyTsepesh0 Год назад

    It's unfortunate the build turned out that way, but keep trying new builds and making videos. It's a great way to get information out to the community. If you just look at the hero architect, you may not be able to tell what it took to get that build or why certain choices were made. These videos can help people make an informed decision on if it's worth the investment beforehand. - CasualHealer

  • @xenthalus
    @xenthalus Год назад

    It's neat for the visuals but it boils down to being a worse MFB tank, both mitigate damage primarily through raw % based damage reduction but with MFB you have the freedom to build around the spell damage type and LRE you choose. I like arcane focused MFB built around Unbound Spellslinger to reduce mana costs of my spells but you could just as easily do a fire focused, flame surging build with soul leech just like with this LRE.
    - Xenthalus

  • @fettsvette9435
    @fettsvette9435 Год назад

    Hardcore challenges are really fun! Could do a survival run with guild dungeons sometime

  • @parkersmith5907
    @parkersmith5907 Год назад

    There’s so many re’s that I find that I wanna use like that emerald dragon RE seems so cool but idk I gotta farm so much lol love the vids tho sorry about the waste of good fam❤
    -NattyP

  • @amassofatoms
    @amassofatoms Год назад

    So glad you do these videos but already can't wait for the next set of wfe's i think these were a bit of a bust imo but could be made better with a bit of fine tuning or epic re's to help them out more - hideaki

  • @akhnatenpage4854
    @akhnatenpage4854 Год назад

    Excited for this one!

  • @dmanfoo113
    @dmanfoo113 Год назад

    Yes! Please do the classic hardcore challenge!

  • @michaldvorak-ww2nv
    @michaldvorak-ww2nv Год назад

    rly nice videos (indall) thx for you be there.

  • @patlamenace5875
    @patlamenace5875 Год назад

    To be honest, maybe what we need is increased threat on the immolation aura. It should be like a challenging shout and grabs aggro of everything whenever it is casted, so that you can grab everything once every 9 seconds
    Btw classic wow is a big yes, we definitely do need it lmao
    Name is Vyndro on thrall

  • @DXMage
    @DXMage Год назад

    I've watched every video and a few twice to make sure I have some idea what to do before I get into game. I'm questing and just puttering around with Menopvp =)

  • @Kikrafis
    @Kikrafis Год назад

    I wish they would push some of the CoA content into Ascension for enchants and builds
    Psychopomp

  • @amv4000
    @amv4000 Год назад

    The new "wizards" enchants might help with the mana issues. I doubt it will fix the issues but it might help. Doesn't help on the threat issue though. - Chicatah

  • @Rustic.illustration
    @Rustic.illustration Год назад

    I'm excited to see hardcore wow videos man, - ohbehave

  • @morinthianhound
    @morinthianhound Год назад

    Damn shame the rng had to get in the way of it! Guildie of mine says if you can get it right the tanking is insane on the amount of armor alone. Here's hoping to the next one goin' better! Can't wait to see what else lies in store! - Selinthia

  • @robroks92
    @robroks92 Год назад

    You think you will try Steward healer? Love the vids man cant wait to see what comes next! -Deezy

  • @frozennight2889
    @frozennight2889 Год назад

    Love seeing these Ascension builds -Stelthy

  • @sunlightFrequency
    @sunlightFrequency Год назад

    Sucks the build never really pulled together. Draft can be fun but it never feels good to lose out on a build you want to play because of pure RNG bullshit. I keep getting dicked out of some core rotational abilities for the build I want to run and since I'm a fresh character on the server I don't have any skill cards or any of that RNG-mitigation stuff. Though I also made the mistake of making him Resolute so it probably just feels agonizing between draft rolls because it takes so long between levels lmao
    Keep it up brotherman, they can't all be winners but hoping this video puts a spotlight on it for the devs to take a look at the numbers.

  • @Benbrytaren
    @Benbrytaren Год назад

    Love them tank builds!
    Is it possible to se a old school build that may become viable ?
    Keep at it man! // Majj

  • @catherinesullivan5676
    @catherinesullivan5676 Год назад

    Sad to see this have threat problems. Was hoping it would stack with manaforged barrier. Braka

  • @briciusd.8478
    @briciusd.8478 Год назад

    I run this for tanking and it is amazing :D
    I dont do drain for it, but instead maximize splitting damage to demon and raising armor. Drain tank would be a good idea for me to try though! Cheers! -Landengen

  • @christophermccutcheon2143
    @christophermccutcheon2143 Год назад

    My only problem with Classless so far is that the content is really, really easy, and I think this is a design problem with catering to so many variations. So sometimes you encounter people who've made classes that feel like normal WoW classes, then other times you encounter people who just delete everything in front of them and there's no point in even bringing a tank cos you'd be faster just bringing another deleter-dps.
    This drain-tanking variation is like that where it's just so strong that the content becomes almost pointless, and if I were healing this wouldn't be any fun cos I'd have nothing to really do. You even get to a boss in the first Dire Maul mythic, and it's alive for all of about 3 seconds once the deleter-dps arrives

  • @Treecake1
    @Treecake1 Год назад

    Do your Classic WoW Hardcore Series like you did the Turtle WoW one, like - well edited, every sunday.
    I liked the Turtle WoW Series. Actually classic, actual progress and the time you put into playing and editing it was shown, as a viewer I was satasfied.

  • @firstGrunt
    @firstGrunt Год назад

    Grunt curious if it works with disease cloud... wasnt disease cloud a mix of shadow/nature damage? Grunt unsure...
    Also, a cure for your mana problems could've been the benediction talent, maybe wizard's rare worldforged enchants. Grunt usually goes straight to thise for mana.
    There is also a paladin ability that allows you to get alot of increased threat generation when you deal damage with spells, which might also really help.
    -Justagrunt

  • @Cornvex
    @Cornvex Год назад

    Gosh, so much new Enchant's and i want to try them all... -Cornvex

  • @leonardocalegario6025
    @leonardocalegario6025 Год назад

    I think their idea was to be like the demon lock from pandaria with its tank possibility... Unfort that it doesnt work (For me would be better to abuse the seal of wisdom and meditate) - Blackranger

  • @richarddugger303
    @richarddugger303 Год назад

    No shade, but the first thing I thought when you said “I’m not taking dmg” was, you won’t if nothing is attacking you! Lol 🤣

  • @hawaiinxb3ast828
    @hawaiinxb3ast828 Год назад

    With the new changes on that stat changes and the fatal strike for agility 2h I’m kinda curious how lava sweep will be.

  • @Jrot-g5f
    @Jrot-g5f Год назад

    Sometimes it works sometimes not, its a shame some builds are just not working even when the fantasy behind the idea would be great. Keep trying out new builds, i love it.
    Honar

  • @nonstopjoliver
    @nonstopjoliver Год назад

    During the raid at least, I didnt see BoS on you and idk if you are using Spirit Attunement. Both would probably be good choices. The treat issue is probably correct. May need to get the shadow threat rare RE.

  • @Xzoltar
    @Xzoltar Год назад

    Drain Life was my favorite tank when I start Ascension few seasons ago, the damage was not that much, they should only have nerf the healing and not cap it at 5 target damage wise. This RE like almost all the LRE of this chapter seem to have been released unfinished. Just reading th text or playing for a few minutes, you can see a lot of weakness, don't know how the Dev can't playtest things longer and not see how big they fail sometime. The argument is always we have one dude who is good with the spec so it must be ok - Narwen

  • @XxTrAzZ016
    @XxTrAzZ016 Год назад

    I guess they still need to work on the spec because it can have very interesting mechanics but, oh well good stuff -Traz

  • @neltharion2519
    @neltharion2519 Год назад

    yo dubs! how did u get banshee's wail? it isnt dropping from the mobs its listed to drop.

  • @JediFrog
    @JediFrog Год назад

    Could you please maybe a video on the new version of Eldrich Knight? I was looking at it last night and it looks very interesting now, and I think it'd be fun seeing a return to an "old" enchant

  • @noedxr7626
    @noedxr7626 Год назад

    Can't wait for the next video already
    Noedxr

  • @27182818284590452354
    @27182818284590452354 Год назад

    While you don't need to buy the summoning tools, you do need to have epic riding before starting the quest, so overall you pay more gold compared to the original game before the expansion comes.

  • @D1rtkoba1n
    @D1rtkoba1n Год назад

    Would love to hear what you know about CoA. It’s been a while. -Paulie

  • @brimstonefootsteps4332
    @brimstonefootsteps4332 Год назад

    Being new to Thrall, how many realistic times do you think you need to prestige to get enough skills to make a "perfect" build? I have prestiged 12 times and still don't feel like I can get close to a predetermined build? Love the vids and the info!! IGN Otep

  • @RakarthsGameroom
    @RakarthsGameroom Год назад

    NGL, the whole draft thing is just killing my desire to play the server, so sick of having to relevel just because I end up not rolling something. I'd like to just sit, enjoy my character and the content not have to worry about my character missing something important. I'd also like to be able to mess around with other builds more often without also having to relevel but either way, thanks for trying this build out before I went after it because it just doesn't look great (or fun imo.) --Alyra

  • @bestmonk6606
    @bestmonk6606 Год назад

    How do u start the dreadsteed quest line on ascension the quest that it normally is just isn't given in the warlock area is it a different quest I'm not realizing

  • @Lolboi-xh7xw
    @Lolboi-xh7xw Год назад

    you should get like, an addon, that displays aggro, and threat, and threat per second.
    espescially as a tank

  • @zearal2898
    @zearal2898 Год назад

    Classic wow sounds fun but it's going to be a huge timesink. -Dripdaddy

  • @megabite6260
    @megabite6260 Год назад

    Im a healer main so the part that u as a tank dont get dmg is sounds cool, less ppl to worry :D , but the no aggro part is scarry.
    Seraphime

  • @jonathangray1084
    @jonathangray1084 Год назад

    dumb question, maybe but did u pick up a tank stance threat modifier like Righteous fury etc? im not 100% if u had one for the threat output

    • @doriofran
      @doriofran Год назад

      Can't use rf in meta. There is a talent in the demo lock tree that increases threat while in meta by 300%. I think it's called demonic resilience or something like that

  • @darongagnon2557
    @darongagnon2557 Год назад

    I've been looking at this building and been wondering if the soul sunder RE works with it? -unwiling

  • @paradiseprod6153
    @paradiseprod6153 Год назад

    i dont play ascension so but i played retail and i just watch you now instead of playing lol but if i remember correctly isnt there an re that makes SS deal shadow damage? could you run that with seal of wisdom?

  • @sxlg_32
    @sxlg_32 Год назад

    Purple McDoubles merch when?

  • @ReDz083
    @ReDz083 Год назад

    Watch the Threat and Mana problems be fixed a week after this video. Keep them devs on their toes McD xD! - Redflamez

  • @Sacalac104
    @Sacalac104 Год назад

    Were you not using spiritual attunement talent?

  • @Scherfors
    @Scherfors Год назад

    Yay, I won! Meet u in Gadgetzan -Urst

  • @ekobaka9057
    @ekobaka9057 Год назад

    the metamorphosis skill duration and cooldown?

  • @JediFrog
    @JediFrog Год назад

    If you're ever worried about threat, you could always use the taunting enchants for specific abilities.
    McDarth

  • @vagabondwastrel2361
    @vagabondwastrel2361 Год назад

    dreamstate re as well as druid clearcasting for the mana issues

  • @lilfigge9089
    @lilfigge9089 Год назад

    This tank looked so promising cause I love dual wield tanking and this is the first viable one and then its a caster tank🥺
    Love the video though❤️
    //Figge on thrall

    • @perrylee8998
      @perrylee8998 Год назад

      Hey its me Cowy you gave me items for daily Q

    • @lilfigge9089
      @lilfigge9089 Год назад

      @@perrylee8998 sup bro

  • @titanjoker7352
    @titanjoker7352 Год назад

    You should have used the Pali talent spiritual attunement

  • @roguewriting
    @roguewriting Год назад

    Can you use one of your defensive stances with this? Maybe you need the Pally tank skill? with the mana return when being healed?