It's interesting to note that in the entire series so far throughout the 5 books, there are only two characters who have ended every single book better off than they started - Littlefinger and Bronn.
I think the writers of the show saw this and went, "Oh, so the fans don't have theories for Littlefinger. So we can just kill him. Since our kill count this season is so low"
I think a very anti-climatic death is how he'll go out in the books as well. He has influence but no real power. He can't die in battle and he is against creating drama. Little Finger rose quietly and will die quietly. In sharp contrast to the Starks who all went out in dramatic fashion and who have many honoring their legacy.
@@Zarkrez I don't know. I do think his fall with be slow. But his eventual end will not be dramatic. Being engaged in a big dramatic scene just really isn't Littlefinger's style.
@@Zarkrez I think it fits him. His fall is long but his death is more like a side character. After all he himself doesn't have any power. He has no armies, no true loyal lords and no fighting ability. All his power comes from others so once that's stripped from him he is nothing.
They weren't the only characters ruined pre-S8. I stopped caring about Jon after Ygritte died. He wasn't bad in S5 but S6,7, and 8 Jon was just a whiny bitch while being the most predictable and average action hero I've ever seen. Battle of the bastards and R+L=J confirmation was great but only cause it was well directed and was a theory that was finally confirmed. His character is so bland after S5. Another one is Tyrion. As soon as Tywin died and they chose to not continue Tyrions story from the books where he starts to become a villain, they made him a bland morally strong joke dispenser. It was just as bad as Jon.
This is why Petyr is one of my favorite characters. His actions are always shrouded in mystery and every time a beloved character decides to trust him, i'm immediately on the edge of my seat. The cunning bastard makes the story so much more interesting, and perilous.
IT would just be Kahl drogo and whatever armies he would have rallied from essos, eventually fighting Westeros, meanwhile the north fights the white walkers
Baelish is one of those odd characters whom the more evil he is, the more you like him. It's one of those "I'm not even mad, that's amazing" kind of things.
There is also implications that Little Finger is gaining a fourth base of power, besides the lands of the Vale, Riverlands, and the North, MONEY. As the Business Insider video on the economy of Game of Thrones noted, Little Finger's time as master of coin increased revenue, but the Iron Throne went from having tons of gold under the Mad King, to being millions in debt under Robert. While Robert did spend a lot on pointless jousting competitions and whores, trying to remember the "good old days" when he wasn't drunk or fat, there is no way he could spend THAT much, particularly with the finical genius Little Finger managing the Iron Throne's finances. Unless, that finical genius is using his knowledge of coin to swindle the very money he is trying to manage. Your quotes note he has control over "the officers of all three mints." There are a few quotes suggesting Littlefinger is diluting the gold in the currency of the realm, as well as other quotes noting that the capital seems to be suffering from runaway inflation. I am guessing Little Finger is taking the gold for himself. Even if he can't gain the loyalty of the realms he theoretically controls, he could take a page from the Lannisters and just buy an army.
Very late to the party, but it could also be that Littlefinger is stuffing his own coffers while putting the throne in exorbitant debt to the Iron Bank. That way the Iron Bank would begin backing contenders to the throne (i.e. Stannis), thereby destabilizing the throne even more. Meanwhile, Littlefinger has the funds to garner their support when they lose patience with Stannis, or to buy an army, or to pay the Iron Bank back after he seizes the throne.
***** Yea, I think the key is to simply rush through the video. The faster someone explains the more impressed people seem to be. Of course what you say has to be right, but everyone who read the books and glanced one or two times into the forums should have known this.
Is that partially why Vary's helped Tyrion to escape?? By keeping him alive he prevents Sansa from remarrying, and therefore makes it more difficult for Littlefinger to gain control of the North. (As well as putting Tyrion on Daenery's council of course) Probably spelt all those names horribly but...
@@nanditapathania4000 he testified against him to have him sent to Pentos, he likely always wanted to free him, Jaime was just a coincidence in all likelihood. In the show he is an avid Dany supporter, spending the first 5 seasons sending people her way to help her, Jorah, Barristan, Tyrion
Been thinking: The greatest threat to Littlefinger is not Varys, Tyrion or even Sansa. It is Bran. The reason Littlefinger succeeds is that nobody knows what he's really up to, or what he really wants. And so far he's been almost perfect at covering up his true allegiances and plots. Bran, however, could learn everything about Littlefinger. Like how he betrayed the Starks like times already. Which would ruin everything for Littlefinger (he would lose all support in the North and also in the Vale). Littlefinger said in season 1 that "Knowledge is power". Bran is (or will soon be) the one with the most Knowledge.
When watching the show I forgot how old Sansa was meant to be (Sophie Turner was in her early twenties at the time, and pretty good looking), but considering she's 16 on the show and 12 in the books, yeah, it's weird.
@@AeneasGemini I haven't read the books, was she supposed to be 12 when Baelish was acting this creepy around her? or was she 12 at the start of the story (which would make her 16 like in the show)? But yea I agree it is weird regardless, considering Baelish is in his 40s or 50s idk.
@@KabooM1067 At the moment, in the books, Littlefinger is 32 and Sansa is 14. And as far as I remember, Littlefinger has kissed Sansa on her lips multiple times in the books by now. What's worse is that he tells her to pose as her daughter in public, but in private he basically tries to make out with her, which she states she finds uncomfortable as I do remember in the books she once even said that she'd rather go back to Tyrion than put up with Littlefinger's kisses. So yeah, Littlefinger is a really creepy guy.
@@amanshukla8758 wow... ew indeed. I decided to read the books since I grew tired of rewatching the show (except the last two seasons, ew as well) but I'm still in book 1... not looking forward to the baelish Sansa encounters now...
Varys and Baelish are some of the best and more complicated characters. They've both got a lot of depth to them that is yet to be revealed. I prefer Westeropoly to Westerosopoly though...
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Watching these after the disaster that season 8 was makes me both sad and happy. Sad because this god damn show used to be good and logical. happy because it reminds me how I wasted hours of my life trying to guess whats the next move of a character before it's shown in the show which made me fall in love with reading the books.
I've been watching a lot of these types of GoT videos, and I have to say, it's pretty amazing that one man wrote a series of books with this much depth to basically have people read and study as much as they would a college masters level course to understand. That's pretty cool.
Getting killed by a strong woman who has learned from HIS mistakes: he still believed he could manipulate her after everything she has been through. He underestimated her and it became his downfall.
yeah, i forgot about it. It's been a year or so since I've seen the last season and I am only at the beginning of the second book. (the third in Germany). But now that I've thought about it, my memory slowly comes back. I should still rewatch all seasons tho.
These are very good videos. They really help us make sense of the knots that we've seen become tied during the books and show but are hard to really grasp at and understand without full analysis. You manage to succinctly put across what is actually going on in the game and who is moving the pieces. Well done, keep it up.
4:32 "It was Petyr who arranged this... little.... entertainment..." Dwarf jokes or a pun on Littlefinger's name? I don't know whether I'm offended or not. HELP!
You're Top Shelf, Hommie!!! No bullshat here! Wish I had more though. Little Finger is such a Huge and complicated person you could of gone waaaay deeper into his motives. Great job and can't wait till the next 1.
I really love watching these videos, because it points out things I totally overlooked in previous seasons and episodes. Very, very well done, every time Alt Shift X!
Well Varys is the fire through his connections to the Blackfyre's and Littlefinger is the ice through Jenny of Oldstones and the crown of blue flowers.
I love how in spite of every careful attempt Varys made to thwart Little Finger's schemes, the only one that truly succeeded was completely random. Jamie basically kidnapped Varys into bolting Tyrion out of jail. It's as if nothing in the nature of Varys equipped him with what he needed to tackle someone like Petyr Baelish and he had to unexpectedly rely on the forces of chaos to gain an edge on their dramatic stare contest.
In the show I guess he just gave up from his quest for power and stupidly sold Sansa to Ramsay only to help the Starks reclaim the North, which changed absolutely nothing for him. And yeah, then he got killed by three kids.
I love how with most of these videos on how different characters' stories will end it's all piecing together complex backstories, mystery, intrigue, magic and secrets but with Littlefinger it's just "lol he just wants money and power exactly as he said". An extremely clever man with a straightforward and simple objective. Love him.
Little finger was another wasted character by season 7. It is almost like the directors didn’t want to push the storyline of little finger trying to groom Sansa.
This was the best explanation video about ASOIF/GOT I've ever watched! Especially, Petyr (gosh, his name's spelling is so tricky)'s scheme was what I've really wanted to know for months, and your video totally nailed it.
Love this channel. There's so much subtlety in the politics that I missed on first reading. Such a universe of a story, with such vivid, unique characters. I used to think that GRRM didnt achieve the same depth and unity of Tolkein, but now I see how Tolkein, while still holding the market on goodness etc, was really just writing responsibly for young adults. He doesnt nearly achieve the weight of such a grand and slowly unfolding story, where everything we question is up for question - morality, theology, the nature of power, what makes a good ruler, what motivates different people and why - the works.
Love your videos, can't wait to see more of them! Personally, I'd find one explaining Cersei's current state (Maggy the Frog, marriage to Robert, etc.) and why she believes what she does!
Alex Bell Yeah she's a really important and interesting character, with layers that some people aren't aware of. Maybe an analysis after next season...
GameOfThronessss Because he was in love with the young Catelyn of his past - not Catelyn as she is today. His affections seem to have been moved to Sansa instead. Although, in the show, he hints that he killed Joffrey in revenge for Catelyn - not in the books, though.
GameOfThronessss Probably because Petyr doesn't feel love for others the way we do. Love to him, I would imagine, is a weakness that can be exploited. At some point his desire probably shifted from Cat to the throne, and her well-being was no longer very high on his priority list. This is just my interpretation, anyway.
GameOfThronessss He's somewhat psychopathic, so I doubt he even feels emotions like "normal" people do-You don't do all the things he does without being low on the emotional roster. I honestly don't believe he truly loved Cat-I think he loved her in the only form he knows how, a possessive/obsessive sort of way. Cat hadn't been a possibility for him to obtain, but Sansa is.
I want to see how Sansa develops as a character, especially her relationship with Petyr. Cersei always called her stupid, she calls herself stupid, yet one has to think she is going to begin to connect the dots a little. Petyr has even started "coaching" her on playing the game of thrones, or basically how to manipulate anyone and everyone you want to. She shows she's learning the game. Will she turn deceitful and evil as Petyr, or play the game and turn the tables on Petyr eventually? She is the only Stark to have lost their wolf, besides Rob, and he is dead along with his wolf. Is the fact that her wolf is dead mean she is unprotected and vulnerable? Will she survive? I think this whole saga revolves around the Stark family, and the ending will revolve around them also. I'm hoping Sansa is learning quickly with Petyr, but it will be his own undoing. He Is truly responsible for all that has evolved, including the death of her father, her brother Robb, and her mother, Lady Stoneheart. I want her to be the one to kill Petyr. It would only be just. And she seems to be Petyr's one blindspot-he is confiding in her like he has never truly confided in anyone. He thinks her naive and malleable. It would be sweet revenge for the Starks if she pulls him down! Sorry for the long post-I love this series!!
As far as Littlefinger's next moves go, it's useful to keep in mind the specific provinces that Littlefinger now has either direct or indirect control over: The Riverlands (which the Lannisters gave him), the Veil (which he got through his marriage to Lysa), and the North (assuming he can keep control of Sansa). All three of these provinces have at least one thing in common: they hate the Lannisters. The North hates the Lannisters because they murdered Ned and Catelyn and Rob. The Riverlands hates the Lannisters because they murdered Catelyn and Rob, and twice laid siege to Riverrun. The Veil hates the Lannisters because they blame them for the death of Jon Arryn, and perhaps their mad about Ned, too (Ned spent years living in the Veil, and would have made friends with more than a few local lords). At this point, assuming Littlefinger’s goal is the Iron throne itself, perhaps the best thing he can do is try and rebrand himself as someone who hates the Lannisters as well. Certainly this could be an uphill battle, seeing how much the Lannisters gave him, and how much he did to secure their power. However, if he sells it right, it could work. If Littlefinger can portray himself to the lords of the Veil and Riverlands and North as the loyal servant of good king Robert, who, at first, genuinely believed that Joffrey was the rightful king, he can potentially absolve himself of any guilt by association with the Lannisters. Then, he could remind said lords of how he grew up in Riverrun amongst the children of good Hoster Tully, how he loved them and how it broke his poor heart to find himself on the opposite side of the war from them. He could tell them about how he, over time, became increasingly disgusted with the Lannisters’ brutal and repugnant tactics, and gradually less certain about Joffrey’s true parentage. Finally, he could reveal how it was he alone who rescued the last living child of Catelyn and Ned from the vile clutches of Cersei and Joffrey, and how he now wishes to make amends for his past service to the false Lannister kings by leading the rebel lords in a new campaign against the hated lions and their Frey lapdogs. If nothing else, you’ve got to admire his cunning.
I've been obsessively catching up with all of your Game of Thrones videos after a friend shared with me. Your editing, delivery, knowledge, evidence, humor, etc. is amazing. I rarely feel compelled to comment on videos, but I had to say well done. These are simply outstanding. Please, please post more!
This matches my thoughts very closely. He says he wants "everything" so I think he'll keep climbing until he reaches the top or die trying. I think a video on Varys would be interesting next :)
I always believed he was the smartest character in the novels. Tyrion has wit and charisma, Tywin has wisdom and great battle tactics, but Littlefinger has grand machiavellian maneuvering ability. He seems to be able to construct complex yet efficient strategies for personal victory on a dime. I can't imagine being able to befriend everyone so easily (in the books) yet still control them like puppets. He's a freak and a genius.
LITTLEFINGER is White walkers spy, to create chaos and war in the world, so when the time come and whitewalkers are able to come down from the wall and take the revenge from the humans everyone be so weak!!
Good video, really helps get your head around everything that happens! Only thing I might say is that it's the Freys that have control of the the Riverlands at the moment, not Baelish. He only has the Lordship of Harrenhal. Pther than that very good, very informative :)
Alex Oneill The Freys get Riverrun, but Littlefinger gets the Riverlands. "You were granted Riverrun with its lands and incomes, no more. Petyr Baelish is the Lord Paramount of the Trident. Riverrun will be subject to the rule of Harrenhal" - Jaime to Emmon Frey, in Jamie V, AFFC
Lexyvil But Petyr has the best claim to the North...the oldest (known) living Stark heir. Based on a comnination of the show (its at least partially based on the future events of the books) it does appear that Petyr is taking his army to take the North. Whoever wins between Stannis and Bolton will get wiped by littlefinger. The trio of the Riverlands, The North and The Vale just needs to team up with Dorne (who would gladly wipe out the Tyrells and Lannisters) and the war is pretty much secured. Especially considering the fact that Dorne and The Vale are completely fresh. Somebody has to take control of that Baratheon and Tyrell land. With pretty much everybody in his pocket and debt, he could very well ascend to the throne himself, if not then as a proxy ruler.
Really like this video, a comprehensive breakdown of one of the most complex characters in the series. I seem to recall someone describing the Targarian throne room as having some fantastic tapestry of the Targariang heritage. Robert had them torn down and replaced with his own. I think there is some mention of Petyr being quite excited by some tapestries he was picking up. So his money is on a Targarian return for sure.
Angelus Lucis The Freys get Riverrun, but Littlefinger gets the Riverlands. "You were granted Riverrun with its lands and incomes, no more. Petyr Baelish is the Lord Paramount of the Trident. Riverrun will be subject to the rule of Harrenhal" - Jaime to Emmon Frey, in Jamie V, AFFC
Now that we've seen Baelish's supposed fate, how about a follow up examining what he accomplished, how he failed, and whether the theories of his survival have any merit?
It's clear you have phenomenal background knowledge, I'd be really interested in a discussion of the religions and magic. Are some/all/any of the Gods real? Where does magic come from? Is there good magic and dark magic? Does it come from the Gods? I don't even know what the smart questions should be, but if you could make a video on the Supernatural, I would give you wealth beyond imagining and the love of all the peoples of the world. Ta.
Very limited knowledge here, but I remember grrm admitting to something like "the powers come from the people themselves" in an interview, implying that there are in fact no gods Im 2 years late, and can possibly be wrong so heh :D
I was curious about that. Some religions seem to be real, such as the Old Gods, Rh'llor the Lord of Light, the God of the Faceless Men, and possibly even the drowned god if that guy Lodos was on to something. There are references to the "Black Goat" and "Lion of Night" who supposedly do have power, although they've never been seen in the books. One theory is that while magical powers exist, the reason is not really a god, and the followers are mistaken. Or maybe there really is only one true god (Death, or maybe not). It's possible that there are many gods, and it's also possible that all the gods are different types of deities, different from each other. And then there's the question of The Gods that never claimed to have power in the first place, like the faith of the seven, the God of the Unsullied, the Gods of the Summer Isles, the many, many gods of Essos. Martin himself doesn't seem like he's been paying much attention to all this, though, because he talked about it in the interview in Mexico as if he was one of the readers instead of the writer, although he has a habit of doing that, in order to not give away anything.
magic is magic,its up to the use how to use it,so far only r'hollor is the only god that is real,the seven are fake,the old gods are not gods but the the greensers and three eye raven of past
Very well done video once again, I can't believe I haven't subscribed yet. This why I love Game of Thrones; it's far more than just some dark fantasy series, it's a saga which you could spend days analyzing all the subtle little details and themes.
Great video on Little Finger and one of your best. I've watched all of the seasons, read all of the books, but some things, some connections, are still a bit blurry and you've been a great help. Keep them coming.
Intense Blowjob what point are you trying to make? So what he didn't do much in the last few seasons, he still basically jump-started the entire series and nobody called him on it except an omniscient seer 7 years later. Still one the best villains the show has.
hotsauceintheeye He beatreyd Ned and turned Lannisters on Starks,then in 3 season gap he kills a spy-whore,than in season 4 he gives sansa away and kills Lysa than dose nothing for 3 seasons,the point?He is overrated...
I'd like to see one of these on Varys too, please. He and Littlefinger have always been two very interesting characters to me when it comes to climbing this ladder of power without the use of force. Thanks man, your videos are awesome!
There is also the theory that Little Finger bankrupted Robert during his time as master of coin. Sort of a money laundering, self financing, strategic political move. He was certainly in a position to do that sort of damage and Robert was the perfect patsy with his drunken lecherous ways. not to mention how that sort of "debt" would cause chaos and contention on many different levels.
Rainefaelyn it's not a theory! tyrion already knows that the moment he became the master of coin, he realize that Little Finger is actually BORROWING FROM THE IRON BANK
Good video, Peter is by far my favorite as he is the most cunning and has moved more 'pieces' successfully than any other. To boot- he has a low noble birth and all his power he has worked to obtain--he has a few faults-- his love for Cat/Sansa and Gambling. He is an expert manipulator and I really wouldn't mind seeing him turned into a POV character in the future.
yeah i just re watched season one episode 6.. where joffrey gives sansa a necklace identical to cerci/marcella's... sansa even says "beautiful, its just like the one your mother wears"..... sansa was obv given a necklace containing poison used by lady olenna to poison joffrey.. so its not the first time one of sansa's necklaces were used in littlefingers game. littlefinger steals this golden necklace from sansa, and uses it to send a threatening message to cerci in season five, prompting her to send jamie to dorne, fueling conflict between the martells and lanisters... the viper with sansa's necklace arrived in kings landing at a time where sansa and littlefinger were together.. littlefinger knew cerci would believe the necklace to be marcellas when it wasnt. LF could have sent a raven to someone in sunspear offering a bit of gold in exchange for the theft and disposal of marcella's necklace, so that when jamie arrived it wasnt super awkward when he discovered she still had her necklace... okay enough tinfoil hats for one day
+Sam Schutte Hold on, I don't understand how littlefinger is involved in the threat sent to Cersei? Didn't Oberyn's bitch do that (I honestly don't know her name and almost don't care)? She did eventually kill Myrcella after all and she didn't deny sending the threat message when Jaime arrived at Dorne. I think that's giving littlefinger too much credit.
Heather Jones that... doesn't answer my question. How is Littlefinger involved in this? Even if the threat was sent by Littlefinger as OP claims, the tension between the Martells and the Lannisters would grow anyway regardless, once Ellaria killed Myrcella. Jaime's trip to Dorne didn't do anything and she was going to kill her anyway. I really doubt Littlefinger had anything to do with this.
"Lysa loved Petyr, Petyr loves Cat but Cat married Ned" *Edmure stares away, unloved*
Finds a wife, In Laws murder his king and friends: Bad luck Edmure
+Warlock “By” Night Badluck tully
But he still have a mill
UtopiaBasti it better be some great mill
The laws of attraction are most unkind.
It's interesting to note that in the entire series so far throughout the 5 books, there are only two characters who have ended every single book better off than they started - Littlefinger and Bronn.
I'd say dany should also fall into that category with the exception of the last book
@Animen contradiction.
@@animen2463 "with the exception of the last book" Excludes inclusion in the category of characters who end *every single book* better off.
Not really. Dany also is much better off and so are Roose and Ramsay Boltons, Walder Frey, Euron etc. But you're right that it's rare.
Jon snow?
naked women: *making out and being sexy*
petyr: so anyway let me give an extended monologue about politics and the nature of power
Grab her ass!
Mood
That's a guy who's seen it all on repeat. Like how I am in strip clubs lol.
@@jonnysith You go to strip clubs? Why? Feels a little cheap.
@@Akillesursinne Best place to talk about politics, obviously
I think the writers of the show saw this and went, "Oh, so the fans don't have theories for Littlefinger. So we can just kill him. Since our kill count this season is so low"
I think a very anti-climatic death is how he'll go out in the books as well. He has influence but no real power. He can't die in battle and he is against creating drama. Little Finger rose quietly and will die quietly. In sharp contrast to the Starks who all went out in dramatic fashion and who have many honoring their legacy.
marinus18 GRRM loves Littlefinger, so I highly doubt he’ll kill him off with a grunt.
@@Zarkrez I don't know. I do think his fall with be slow. But his eventual end will not be dramatic. Being engaged in a big dramatic scene just really isn't Littlefinger's style.
marinus18 No, but his death won’t be so boring.
@@Zarkrez I think it fits him. His fall is long but his death is more like a side character. After all he himself doesn't have any power. He has no armies, no true loyal lords and no fighting ability. All his power comes from others so once that's stripped from him he is nothing.
They killed his story so badly.
Just like Stannis, Dorne, Barristan Selmy and the entire thing with S8.
प्रियदर्शी Dorne ? You mean Oberyn or Doran ?
Don't forget the ironborn aswell
@Bruh Man drones plot was lame in the books as well
Doran and the entire story there. Oberyn’s death was the same way in the books.
They weren't the only characters ruined pre-S8. I stopped caring about Jon after Ygritte died. He wasn't bad in S5 but S6,7, and 8 Jon was just a whiny bitch while being the most predictable and average action hero I've ever seen. Battle of the bastards and R+L=J confirmation was great but only cause it was well directed and was a theory that was finally confirmed. His character is so bland after S5. Another one is Tyrion. As soon as Tywin died and they chose to not continue Tyrions story from the books where he starts to become a villain, they made him a bland morally strong joke dispenser. It was just as bad as Jon.
This is why Petyr is one of my favorite characters.
His actions are always shrouded in mystery and every time a beloved character decides to trust him, i'm immediately on the edge of my seat. The cunning bastard makes the story so much more interesting, and perilous.
Anyone else a big fan of Littlefinger? So many hate him but I think he's brilliant, one of my favourite characters.
+Ryan Beggers He's definitly interesting, but I like Varys more. Varys is more subtil and controlled.
Without him there would be no game of thrones. He started it all.
hes like the quiet kid with an ak
He's driven by spite, with no care for casualties from his machinations. I don't "like" him, but he is interesting to read about.
IT would just be Kahl drogo and whatever armies he would have rallied from essos, eventually fighting Westeros, meanwhile the north fights the white walkers
Baelish is one of those odd characters whom the more evil he is, the more you like him. It's one of those "I'm not even mad, that's amazing" kind of things.
Impressively well written and cunning
I remember reading the books and having that little lightbulb go off..."Oh shit. This has been the Petyr Baelish show all along..."
Peter Baelish: the Littlefingered Puppet Master of Westeros
I WAS THINKING IT WAS equally VARUS AND BAELISH AS THE EVIL BEHIND THE SCENES ... TURNS OUT VARUS WAS THE HOPE and he just sailed away lmao
There is also implications that Little Finger is gaining a fourth base of power, besides the lands of the Vale, Riverlands, and the North, MONEY. As the Business Insider video on the economy of Game of Thrones noted, Little Finger's time as master of coin increased revenue, but the Iron Throne went from having tons of gold under the Mad King, to being millions in debt under Robert.
While Robert did spend a lot on pointless jousting competitions and whores, trying to remember the "good old days" when he wasn't drunk or fat, there is no way he could spend THAT much, particularly with the finical genius Little Finger managing the Iron Throne's finances. Unless, that finical genius is using his knowledge of coin to swindle the very money he is trying to manage. Your quotes note he has control over "the officers of all three mints." There are a few quotes suggesting Littlefinger is diluting the gold in the currency of the realm, as well as other quotes noting that the capital seems to be suffering from runaway inflation.
I am guessing Little Finger is taking the gold for himself. Even if he can't gain the loyalty of the realms he theoretically controls, he could take a page from the Lannisters and just buy an army.
imagine if faegon wasnt a thing,he could have bought the golden company and marry daenarys when she arrived in westeros
What is finical?
Very late to the party, but it could also be that Littlefinger is stuffing his own coffers while putting the throne in exorbitant debt to the Iron Bank. That way the Iron Bank would begin backing contenders to the throne (i.e. Stannis), thereby destabilizing the throne even more. Meanwhile, Littlefinger has the funds to garner their support when they lose patience with Stannis, or to buy an army, or to pay the Iron Bank back after he seizes the throne.
@@tspoon772 why are you so petty?
@@tspoon772financial
house tully used splash.!but nothing happened!
+Jake Bishop I was always underwhelmed with what force the Tullys could command.
+Jake Bishop you cracked me to my very soul
They are constantly cancelling the evolution into Gyrados and they also probably forgot Dragon Rager tbh.
Can someone explain this to me?
I'm fairly well aware of both GOT and Pokemon yet this reference didnt stick...
@@striker91 house Tully is as useless as magikarp
You're a damn good video editor.
Docktor Jim And a damn good teacher :D
Matze Oderso Seriously! I don't think I've ever seen such a good video production.
Docktor Jim If you haven't already check out CGPGrey
***** It's better than basic editing, and yeah, the narration is good, too.
***** Yea, I think the key is to simply rush through the video. The faster someone explains the more impressed people seem to be. Of course what you say has to be right, but everyone who read the books and glanced one or two times into the forums should have known this.
“Chaos is a ladder”. Seasons 7 and 8 are unforgivable
I just finished book 5 today and it was breathtaking. The shows is such a disappointment by comparison.
Season 1 is good, season 2 and 3 are amazing, season 4 is great and for me the show ended there
Is that partially why Vary's helped Tyrion to escape?? By keeping him alive he prevents Sansa from remarrying, and therefore makes it more difficult for Littlefinger to gain control of the North. (As well as putting Tyrion on Daenery's council of course)
Probably spelt all those names horribly but...
That and to kill Tywin whilst framing the Tyrells with that coin he put there.
Nah, the only reason Varys helped Tyrion escape is because Jaime forced him to, at swordpoint. Remember, he testified against him at the trial.
@@nanditapathania4000 he testified against him to have him sent to Pentos, he likely always wanted to free him, Jaime was just a coincidence in all likelihood.
In the show he is an avid Dany supporter, spending the first 5 seasons sending people her way to help her, Jorah, Barristan, Tyrion
The marriage was never consummated so it's easy to dissolve.
1:34 "friends in high places" lmfaooooooooooooooooooo that was subtle
MsLm97 and he made those friends fly off those high places
there is a war story in battlefield 1 called friends in high places
I lol'd at that one :D
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Nobody cares
@@TheAurelianProject I do
Been thinking: The greatest threat to Littlefinger is not Varys, Tyrion or even Sansa. It is Bran.
The reason Littlefinger succeeds is that nobody knows what he's really up to, or what he really wants. And so far he's been almost perfect at covering up his true allegiances and plots. Bran, however, could learn everything about Littlefinger. Like how he betrayed the Starks like times already. Which would ruin everything for Littlefinger (he would lose all support in the North and also in the Vale).
Littlefinger said in season 1 that "Knowledge is power". Bran is (or will soon be) the one with the most Knowledge.
True
Interesting..
yeah but, he can only see the past from a weirwood point of view, there are no weirwoods down the neck, ergo he cannot see shit
Mauricio Garza How did he see the Mad king then? That was in the Redkeep, which is also where Littlefinger put the dagger to Ned Stark's throat.
Mmm, I didn't thought of that, but as far as I know, he is only supposed to see thru the weirwood's eyes
The sigils fighting at 2:43 made me laugh out loud. Bravo!
I love how the arrow between Baelish and Sansa keeps the 'ew' every time it shows up xD. I love your humor style.
When watching the show I forgot how old Sansa was meant to be (Sophie Turner was in her early twenties at the time, and pretty good looking), but considering she's 16 on the show and 12 in the books, yeah, it's weird.
@@AeneasGemini I haven't read the books, was she supposed to be 12 when Baelish was acting this creepy around her? or was she 12 at the start of the story (which would make her 16 like in the show)?
But yea I agree it is weird regardless, considering Baelish is in his 40s or 50s idk.
@@KabooM1067 Baelish is in his 30s in the books. Sansa was 11 at the starting and has not turned 14 yet in her preview chapter in the Winds of Winter
@@KabooM1067 At the moment, in the books, Littlefinger is 32 and Sansa is 14. And as far as I remember, Littlefinger has kissed Sansa on her lips multiple times in the books by now. What's worse is that he tells her to pose as her daughter in public, but in private he basically tries to make out with her, which she states she finds uncomfortable as I do remember in the books she once even said that she'd rather go back to Tyrion than put up with Littlefinger's kisses. So yeah, Littlefinger is a really creepy guy.
@@amanshukla8758 wow... ew indeed.
I decided to read the books since I grew tired of rewatching the show (except the last two seasons, ew as well) but I'm still in book 1... not looking forward to the baelish Sansa encounters now...
Varys and Baelish are some of the best and more complicated characters. They've both got a lot of depth to them that is yet to be revealed.
I prefer Westeropoly to Westerosopoly though...
Chris Lucas Damn good point.. Westeropoly.. or Game of Thronopoly?
Alt Shift X Westeropoly as it's only on the continent of Westeros as of yet. If it's on Esos too then it'll be an Esopoly
House Tully used splash! :P
Serry It gave them Stone Mill.
Serry Talisa used Attract
It's super effective, House Stark's respect sharply fell, House Stark attack sharply fell, House Stark defense sharply fell, House Stark dick sharply rose
House Stark used bone
House Stark has soon an heir
House Stark used "Help from Bolton"
Bolton won't obey
House Stark used "Asking the vale for support"
The vale won't obey
House Stark used "Frey, dude, sorry we need your help"
House Frey won't obey
House Stark insists
House Frey says okay
House Stark used "Items"
Pressed "Identify melody"
Melody identified as the rains of castamere
House Stark suspicion rose
House Frey used douchebaggy rant
House Stark is still happy over heir, no effect
House Frey used stab
House Stark loses its heir, it's super effective
House Stark uses pokemon Bolton, Karstark, Frey
They won't obey
House Stark uses pokemon Greatjon
Greatjon was cut from the show
House Stark uses pokemon Grey wind
House Frey uses cowardly crossbow shots
Grey wind fainted
House Stark is out of usable pokemon
House Stark uses "run"
House Frey uses "And why would I let him do that"
House Bolton used "best regards"
House Stark fainted
House Tully used splash! But nothing happened :D :D Love it
so funny
Lmao
Watching these after the disaster that season 8 was makes me both sad and happy. Sad because this god damn show used to be good and logical. happy because it reminds me how I wasted hours of my life trying to guess whats the next move of a character before it's shown in the show which made me fall in love with reading the books.
I've been watching a lot of these types of GoT videos, and I have to say, it's pretty amazing that one man wrote a series of books with this much depth to basically have people read and study as much as they would a college masters level course to understand. That's pretty cool.
What's he up to? Getting killed off by contrived lazy writing.
Hahaha, what a story Mark!
Getting killed by a strong woman who has learned from HIS mistakes: he still believed he could manipulate her after everything she has been through. He underestimated her and it became his downfall.
With 16 episodes to end a saga that a doorstopper franchise has built? There's really no other way to do it
@@EvaDuss He underestimated Bran. It was revealed she was going to kill Arya until she spoke to Bran who told her.
Volibearlord Yess the Stark siblings are not to be underestimated
There is one episode left to bring him back and save the series...
Lord Stoneheart
I hated him, I almost cried with joy when he died
@@iwantmykidssusan4941 it's alright to hate him, but it was horribly written
@@Ale-xv1un thanks m8, I hoped until the end.
lol
LYSA KILLED JON? WTF SOMEHOW THIS SLIPPED RIGHT THROUGH ME. I SHOULD DEFENETLY REWATCH THE SERIES.
+NIZE she mentioned it in a scene with littlefinger. She said "I killed for you, I poisoned my husband for you"
yeah, i forgot about it. It's been a year or so since I've seen the last season and I am only at the beginning of the second book. (the third in Germany). But now that I've thought about it, my memory slowly comes back. I should still rewatch all seasons tho.
@@NIZE The pieces are there in the first book, but you have to pay really close attention. I didn't catch it right away.
BRO WHAT?! How did you miss that?? I literally had to stand up and pace around my room when I saw that scene.
A little fact - Not in the books.
Varys would be an excellent choice following this one.
Agreed, after all he was responsible of granting Dany's dragons and hiding a certain presumably dead Targaryen . seems pretty big to me.
is he a Sorrowful man?
I love Littlefinger. He's the only one who knows how to play the game.
*Hust* Varys *Hust* :D
tyrion played Petyr
+Andrew then Petyr indirectly got Tyrion tried for kingslaying and exiled
kickMyROCKS doesn't matter..."He's the only one who knwos how to play the game" is just wrong.
+Andrew Him and Varys. Tyrion, maybe but not as well as Littlefinger and Varys
The first to arrive and the last to leave. I admire your industry Petyr.
+Lord Varys
do you have a gash like a woman's i wonder ?
jaqen hgar I do, and i'm not ashamed of it.
+Lord Varys Do you hide money in your gash? I wonder...
+Lord Varys Lol, I heard this in his voice. Wicked
Do you lie awake at night thinking of my gash?
These are very good videos. They really help us make sense of the knots that we've seen become tied during the books and show but are hard to really grasp at and understand without full analysis. You manage to succinctly put across what is actually going on in the game and who is moving the pieces. Well done, keep it up.
Toady Bomb Thanks
4:32
"It was Petyr who arranged this... little.... entertainment..." Dwarf jokes or a pun on Littlefinger's name? I don't know whether I'm offended or not. HELP!
both! lol
Double Puns are the best.
I tough Penny implied that it was Cersei's doing
@@onciblu no littlefinger talked joffrey into it by specifically saying that tyrion would be offended.
House Tully used Splash, but nothing happened! That made me freaking LOL
The best part is its so very true
You're Top Shelf, Hommie!!! No bullshat here! Wish I had more though. Little Finger is such a Huge and complicated person you could of gone waaaay deeper into his motives. Great job and can't wait till the next 1.
Haha true cheers mate
I really love watching these videos, because it points out things I totally overlooked in previous seasons and episodes. Very, very well done, every time Alt Shift X!
Somehow I think the series is not about Daenerys and Jon( Fire and Ice )but about Varys and Baelish (Fire and Ice).
Maybe. But how are Varys and Petyr Fire and ice
+Gaming Winner Both are both
They both have love and passion
But one is calmer and reasonable while the other is hateful and malicious.
Well Varys is the fire through his connections to the Blackfyre's and Littlefinger is the ice through Jenny of Oldstones and the crown of blue flowers.
victor jo riiight. okay
Mind = blown
You're damn right
Probably the best Petyr Baelish video on youtube. Well done sir.
I love how in spite of every careful attempt Varys made to thwart Little Finger's schemes, the only one that truly succeeded was completely random. Jamie basically kidnapped Varys into bolting Tyrion out of jail. It's as if nothing in the nature of Varys equipped him with what he needed to tackle someone like Petyr Baelish and he had to unexpectedly rely on the forces of chaos to gain an edge on their dramatic stare contest.
In the show I guess he just gave up from his quest for power and stupidly sold Sansa to Ramsay only to help the Starks reclaim the North, which changed absolutely nothing for him. And yeah, then he got killed by three kids.
And I would have got away with it too if not for these meddling kids and their direwolf !
I love how with most of these videos on how different characters' stories will end it's all piecing together complex backstories, mystery, intrigue, magic and secrets but with Littlefinger it's just "lol he just wants money and power exactly as he said". An extremely clever man with a straightforward and simple objective. Love him.
Little finger was another wasted character by season 7.
It is almost like the directors didn’t want to push the storyline of little finger trying to groom Sansa.
This was the best explanation video about ASOIF/GOT I've ever watched!
Especially, Petyr (gosh, his name's spelling is so tricky)'s scheme was what I've really wanted to know for months, and your video totally nailed it.
Arya Stark and The Faceless Men.
I need to know more about the faceless men!
And she did what's commanded....(slashes the throat)
"house tully used splash! but nothing happend"
LOL
didnt get it :(
@@MessiForever-q9l Pokemon reference
Petyr baelish is the main character in got in my opinion
he is George Martin himself
He's one of my favorites.
Hope someday we get to have littlefinger as a POV so we can know his whole entire plan?
soyon manlai a girl can dream
I'll admit, sometimes having everything spoon-fed is a lot nicer than watching the show and paying attention.
Edmure Tully gets no love, but he is the only lord in the books who consistently works for his people.
Love this channel. There's so much subtlety in the politics that I missed on first reading. Such a universe of a story, with such vivid, unique characters. I used to think that GRRM didnt achieve the same depth and unity of Tolkein, but now I see how Tolkein, while still holding the market on goodness etc, was really just writing responsibly for young adults. He doesnt nearly achieve the weight of such a grand and slowly unfolding story, where everything we question is up for question - morality, theology, the nature of power, what makes a good ruler, what motivates different people and why - the works.
the only question left, is if he can end the story. and end it well
Love your videos, can't wait to see more of them! Personally, I'd find one explaining Cersei's current state (Maggy the Frog, marriage to Robert, etc.) and why she believes what she does!
Alex Bell Yeah she's a really important and interesting character, with layers that some people aren't aware of. Maybe an analysis after next season...
How come he wasn't more upset about catelyns death?
GameOfThronessss Because he was in love with the young Catelyn of his past - not Catelyn as she is today. His affections seem to have been moved to Sansa instead. Although, in the show, he hints that he killed Joffrey in revenge for Catelyn - not in the books, though.
HolySok He started the war of the 5 kings so he probaly killed Joffrey too, It would make sense
GameOfThronessss
Probably because Petyr doesn't feel love for others the way we do. Love to him, I would imagine, is a weakness that can be exploited. At some point his desire probably shifted from Cat to the throne, and her well-being was no longer very high on his priority list. This is just my interpretation, anyway.
GameOfThronessss He's somewhat psychopathic, so I doubt he even feels emotions like "normal" people do-You don't do all the things he does without being low on the emotional roster. I honestly don't believe he truly loved Cat-I think he loved her in the only form he knows how, a possessive/obsessive sort of way. Cat hadn't been a possibility for him to obtain, but Sansa is.
JHowesitgoing123 u absolutely nailed it.
I want to see how Sansa develops as a character, especially her relationship with Petyr. Cersei always called her stupid, she calls herself stupid, yet one has to think she is going to begin to connect the dots a little. Petyr has even started "coaching" her on playing the game of thrones, or basically how to manipulate anyone and everyone you want to. She shows she's learning the game. Will she turn deceitful and evil as Petyr, or play the game and turn the tables on Petyr eventually? She is the only Stark to have lost their wolf, besides Rob, and he is dead along with his wolf. Is the fact that her wolf is dead mean she is unprotected and vulnerable? Will she survive? I think this whole saga revolves around the Stark family, and the ending will revolve around them also.
I'm hoping Sansa is learning quickly with Petyr, but it will be his own undoing. He Is truly responsible for all that has evolved, including the death of her father, her brother Robb, and her mother, Lady Stoneheart. I want her to be the one to kill Petyr. It would only be just. And she seems to be Petyr's one blindspot-he is confiding in her like he has never truly confided in anyone. He thinks her naive and malleable. It would be sweet revenge for the Starks if she pulls him down!
Sorry for the long post-I love this series!!
TURNS OUT she is just stupid. small world,.
Just coming here to say that you were spot on! 8yrs ago, you called it.
Maggy the frog video would be cool. These videos are very well presented and in such an insightful manner, thank you for these and keep it up!
As far as Littlefinger's next moves go, it's useful to keep in mind the specific provinces that Littlefinger now has either direct or indirect control over: The Riverlands (which the Lannisters gave him), the Veil (which he got through his marriage to Lysa), and the North (assuming he can keep control of Sansa). All three of these provinces have at least one thing in common: they hate the Lannisters. The North hates the Lannisters because they murdered Ned and Catelyn and Rob. The Riverlands hates the Lannisters because they murdered Catelyn and Rob, and twice laid siege to Riverrun. The Veil hates the Lannisters because they blame them for the death of Jon Arryn, and perhaps their mad about Ned, too (Ned spent years living in the Veil, and would have made friends with more than a few local lords).
At this point, assuming Littlefinger’s goal is the Iron throne itself, perhaps the best thing he can do is try and rebrand himself as someone who hates the Lannisters as well. Certainly this could be an uphill battle, seeing how much the Lannisters gave him, and how much he did to secure their power. However, if he sells it right, it could work. If Littlefinger can portray himself to the lords of the Veil and Riverlands and North as the loyal servant of good king Robert, who, at first, genuinely believed that Joffrey was the rightful king, he can potentially absolve himself of any guilt by association with the Lannisters. Then, he could remind said lords of how he grew up in Riverrun amongst the children of good Hoster Tully, how he loved them and how it broke his poor heart to find himself on the opposite side of the war from them. He could tell them about how he, over time, became increasingly disgusted with the Lannisters’ brutal and repugnant tactics, and gradually less certain about Joffrey’s true parentage. Finally, he could reveal how it was he alone who rescued the last living child of Catelyn and Ned from the vile clutches of Cersei and Joffrey, and how he now wishes to make amends for his past service to the false Lannister kings by leading the rebel lords in a new campaign against the hated lions and their Frey lapdogs.
If nothing else, you’ve got to admire his cunning.
excellent clips, nice flow charts, well narrated and I learned a lot. You really helped put all the pieces together!
Absolutely brilliant! You're hilarious and informative, these are great, truly.
I've been obsessively catching up with all of your Game of Thrones videos after a friend shared with me. Your editing, delivery, knowledge, evidence, humor, etc. is amazing. I rarely feel compelled to comment on videos, but I had to say well done. These are simply outstanding. Please, please post more!
This matches my thoughts very closely. He says he wants "everything" so I think he'll keep climbing until he reaches the top or die trying. I think a video on Varys would be interesting next :)
what a well done video! my favourite parts are the sharp humour mixed in ;)
I always believed he was the smartest character in the novels.
Tyrion has wit and charisma, Tywin has wisdom and great battle tactics, but Littlefinger has grand machiavellian maneuvering ability.
He seems to be able to construct complex yet efficient strategies for personal victory on a dime. I can't imagine being able to befriend everyone so easily (in the books) yet still control them like puppets.
He's a freak and a genius.
Littlefinger is the "little" guy giving the system the "finger"
Woah!...
Sansa and arya outsmarting the extremely intelligent character that is little finger is even worse writing than bran sitting on the iron throne.
1st line is correct but not the last.
It's confirmed bran is going to be the king. Of course it's going to be 100x better written
I really appreciate your detailed and expansive explanations.
It is because of this that I believe Littlefinger is the leader of the sons of the harpy!
+Antonio Felipe Araujo he certainly does not like Dany!
+Antonio Felipe Araujo Daario Naharis is the leader of the sons of the harpy!
LITTLEFINGER is White walkers spy, to create chaos and war in the world, so when the time come and whitewalkers are able to come down from the wall and take the revenge from the humans everyone be so weak!!
Littlefinger = Azor Ahai
Bluemilk92
I thin Varys represent Azor-Ahai!
These must take you so so long. They are PERFECTLY done. So much fun to watch.
2:50 "house tully used splash!" fucking laughing my ass off
your edits are insane dude.
he is the only person that thinks of playing the game, the others just want to win immediately
Wow...so he potentially started this whole thing, huh? Pretty clever.
Good video, really helps get your head around everything that happens! Only thing I might say is that it's the Freys that have control of the the Riverlands at the moment, not Baelish. He only has the Lordship of Harrenhal. Pther than that very good, very informative :)
Alex Oneill The Freys get Riverrun, but Littlefinger gets the Riverlands. "You were granted Riverrun with its lands and incomes, no more. Petyr Baelish is the Lord Paramount of the Trident. Riverrun will be subject to the rule of Harrenhal" - Jaime to Emmon Frey, in Jamie V, AFFC
True, and not to forget that the Boltons kind of have the north too~
Kind of fucking hard to forget that
Lexyvil But Petyr has the best claim to the North...the oldest (known) living Stark heir. Based on a comnination of the show (its at least partially based on the future events of the books) it does appear that Petyr is taking his army to take the North. Whoever wins between Stannis and Bolton will get wiped by littlefinger. The trio of the Riverlands, The North and The Vale just needs to team up with Dorne (who would gladly wipe out the Tyrells and Lannisters) and the war is pretty much secured. Especially considering the fact that Dorne and The Vale are completely fresh. Somebody has to take control of that Baratheon and Tyrell land. With pretty much everybody in his pocket and debt, he could very well ascend to the throne himself, if not then as a proxy ruler.
I love your style of videos! Very well built and funny in just the right places!
Having Littlefiger killed in such a lame way in the show was kind of an anticlimax. Definitely one of my favorite characters in the show
I saw a theory that he isnt dead. He paid a faceless man to take his place. He is still alive
Really like this video, a comprehensive breakdown of one of the most complex characters in the series.
I seem to recall someone describing the Targarian throne room as having some fantastic tapestry of the Targariang heritage. Robert had them torn down and replaced with his own. I think there is some mention of Petyr being quite excited by some tapestries he was picking up. So his money is on a Targarian return for sure.
2:50 "Houste Tully used Splash, but nothing happend"!!!! bahahahaha
Ugh I love these videos they’re so interesting
Chutes and ladders. Let's see how Littlefinger rolls the dice...
After the red wedding, didn't Walder Frey become lord of the Riverlands and not Petyr?
Angelus Lucis The Freys get Riverrun, but Littlefinger gets the Riverlands. "You were granted Riverrun with its lands and incomes, no more. Petyr Baelish is the Lord Paramount of the Trident. Riverrun will be subject to the rule of Harrenhal" - Jaime to Emmon Frey, in Jamie V, AFFC
Alt Shift X Thank you for clearing this up for me!
Honered Chimp Dovahkiinbowl confirmed. (There's actually no Riverrun in Skyrim - you're thinking of Riverwood)
Honered Chimp Also, the first book was written eighteen years ago. So the books would have been first.
Honered Chimp I'm sorry. I do not understand what you mean.
i loved the little "Tully used splash" thing haha
I believe a 6 min video barely scratches the surface of Littlefinger. I believe It's high time you made new one.
Now that we've seen Baelish's supposed fate, how about a follow up examining what he accomplished, how he failed, and whether the theories of his survival have any merit?
"House Tully used splash, it's not very effective" Holy fuck that's great
I guess he finally settled down
Littlefinger is the custom character you create in CK2 with stupidly high intrigue and a small holding
It's clear you have phenomenal background knowledge, I'd be really interested in a discussion of the religions and magic. Are some/all/any of the Gods real? Where does magic come from? Is there good magic and dark magic? Does it come from the Gods? I don't even know what the smart questions should be, but if you could make a video on the Supernatural, I would give you wealth beyond imagining and the love of all the peoples of the world. Ta.
Yes please. I would like to see a video about these topics!
+USERNAMEfieldempty I think the some of the Gods are real, but maybe all of them are and They are playing the game with their pawns.
Very limited knowledge here, but I remember grrm admitting to something like "the powers come from the people themselves" in an interview, implying that there are in fact no gods
Im 2 years late, and can possibly be wrong so heh :D
I was curious about that. Some religions seem to be real, such as the Old Gods, Rh'llor the Lord of Light, the God of the Faceless Men, and possibly even the drowned god if that guy Lodos was on to something. There are references to the "Black Goat" and "Lion of Night" who supposedly do have power, although they've never been seen in the books.
One theory is that while magical powers exist, the reason is not really a god, and the followers are mistaken. Or maybe there really is only one true god (Death, or maybe not). It's possible that there are many gods, and it's also possible that all the gods are different types of deities, different from each other.
And then there's the question of The Gods that never claimed to have power in the first place, like the faith of the seven, the God of the Unsullied, the Gods of the Summer Isles, the many, many gods of Essos.
Martin himself doesn't seem like he's been paying much attention to all this, though, because he talked about it in the interview in Mexico as if he was one of the readers instead of the writer, although he has a habit of doing that, in order to not give away anything.
magic is magic,its up to the use how to use it,so far only r'hollor is the only god that is real,the seven are fake,the old gods are not gods but the the greensers and three eye raven of past
I obsess over ASOIAF theory videos. Very well done indeed
Petyr Baelish is the fucking Godfather.
More videos please! It can be on any topic I like how you explain things.
Very well done video once again, I can't believe I haven't subscribed yet. This why I love Game of Thrones; it's far more than just some dark fantasy series, it's a saga which you could spend days analyzing all the subtle little details and themes.
Great video on Little Finger and one of your best. I've watched all of the seasons, read all of the books, but some things, some connections, are still a bit blurry and you've been a great help. Keep them coming.
Can you do an updated Baelish video? This was awesome
"House Tully used splash but nothing happened" That amused me far too much. Great video man.
This chronicle is so complex, and it feels like it can go on forever. I'm dying to see the ending, and curious to see how Martin will pull it off.
Littlefinger is an undercover white walker, he has blue eyes and is leading Westeros in chaos before the white walker invasion.
wot
This gave me a good laugh, but I'm quite certain that it's been mentioned more than once that his eyes are grey-green.
RIP Littlefinger. Damn, what a villain.
hotsauceintheeye Practically irrelevant since season 4....
Intense Blowjob doesn't change my point. He was a hell of a villain.
hotsauceintheeye Could've said that in season 5 and 6,since he had as much importance as being dead...
Intense Blowjob what point are you trying to make? So what he didn't do much in the last few seasons, he still basically jump-started the entire series and nobody called him on it except an omniscient seer 7 years later. Still one the best villains the show has.
hotsauceintheeye He beatreyd Ned and turned Lannisters on Starks,then in 3 season gap he kills a spy-whore,than in season 4 he gives sansa away and kills Lysa than dose nothing for 3 seasons,the point?He is overrated...
I'd like to see one of these on Varys too, please. He and Littlefinger have always been two very interesting characters to me when it comes to climbing this ladder of power without the use of force. Thanks man, your videos are awesome!
There is also the theory that Little Finger bankrupted Robert during his time as master of coin. Sort of a money laundering, self financing, strategic political move. He was certainly in a position to do that sort of damage and Robert was the perfect patsy with his drunken lecherous ways.
not to mention how that sort of "debt" would cause chaos and contention on many different levels.
Rainefaelyn it's not a theory! tyrion already knows that the moment he became the master of coin, he realize that Little Finger is actually BORROWING FROM THE IRON BANK
"my ultimate goal in life is to bone ladders and make people think that I actually have a plan" - laddah finga
So essentially: The game of thrones is a war between Varys and Petyr Baelish.
Oh damn. I thought Sansa Stark had made a comment here 😂
no its in truth, a war between Bloodraven and Euron. even Varys is a kitten next to them
Good video, Peter is by far my favorite as he is the most cunning and has moved more 'pieces' successfully than any other. To boot- he has a low noble birth and all his power he has worked to obtain--he has a few faults-- his love for Cat/Sansa and Gambling. He is an expert manipulator and I really wouldn't mind seeing him turned into a POV character in the future.
yeah i just re watched season one episode 6.. where joffrey gives sansa a necklace identical to cerci/marcella's... sansa even says "beautiful, its just like the one your mother wears"..... sansa was obv given a necklace containing poison used by lady olenna to poison joffrey.. so its not the first time one of sansa's necklaces were used in littlefingers game. littlefinger steals this golden necklace from sansa, and uses it to send a threatening message to cerci in season five, prompting her to send jamie to dorne, fueling conflict between the martells and lanisters... the viper with sansa's necklace arrived in kings landing at a time where sansa and littlefinger were together.. littlefinger knew cerci would believe the necklace to be marcellas when it wasnt. LF could have sent a raven to someone in sunspear offering a bit of gold in exchange for the theft and disposal of marcella's necklace, so that when jamie arrived it wasnt super awkward when he discovered she still had her necklace... okay enough tinfoil hats for one day
wow that's good! 👏👏👏
+Sam Schutte
Hold on, I don't understand how littlefinger is involved in the threat sent to Cersei? Didn't Oberyn's bitch do that (I honestly don't know her name and almost don't care)? She did eventually kill Myrcella after all and she didn't deny sending the threat message when Jaime arrived at Dorne. I think that's giving littlefinger too much credit.
Heather Jones
that... doesn't answer my question. How is Littlefinger involved in this? Even if the threat was sent by Littlefinger as OP claims, the tension between the Martells and the Lannisters would grow anyway regardless, once Ellaria killed Myrcella. Jaime's trip to Dorne didn't do anything and she was going to kill her anyway. I really doubt Littlefinger had anything to do with this.
He isn't involved at all. I was just saying how Cercei got the necklace.
00:22 his face while holding a knife below Ned's throat. Aye, the definition of creepy!
Littlefinger? More like Middlefinger, this guy has been fucking everyone up since the beginning, sheeeit.
Rip littlefinger in the show